Lifter says he gets less chicks now he is muscular

[Humble Narcissist]

He'd get more chicks if that was his natural body without even lifting.

Women looking for a relationship are calculating his specially prepared "timed" meals, hours at the gym, preoccupation with mirror, taking illegal drugs.... and wondering why he doesn't train neck.

This is why guys should never talk about exercise at all to women.  Train in secret and shut up about it.  Women have this fantasy that a man can be lean and muscular without training (meaning he's a narcissist), can have loads of money without actually working hard (soap operas, 50 Shades of Grey) so he takes time away from them.  Why not give them what they want and fantasize about?

[pamith]

I think guys with muscle assume that women will ''throw'' themselves at them simply because they have a nice physique, nothing can be further from the truth, a guy with muscles can't just wait and assume women will throw themselves, it won't happen

[Megalodon]

This is why guys should never talk about exercise at all to women.  Train in secret and shut up about it.  Women have this fantasy that a man can be lean and muscular without training (meaning he's a narcissist), can have loads of money without actually working hard (soap operas, 50 Shades of Grey) so he takes time away from them.  Why not give them what they want and fantasize about?

I agree. Bringing too much attention to the amount of work it takes for one to look a certain way is advertising that one's body is the product of time-consuming hard work rather than genetics.

Women would rather have that time spent on them and also have what they (at the very least)perceive as the man's good genetics passed on to their children.

[El Diablo Blanco]

In the past more muscular I got, the more attention dudes would give me and it seemed to give fat girls an open invitation to approach me.  I was like fuck this shit.

Once I leaned down, I went to the XS Vegas pool party and pulled pussy nonstop while these dudes with awesome muscular physiques walked around like a bunch of losers.

[Howard]

Says what I and many here been saying for years, dont go bigger than 170-180 assuming 5'9-6'2 if you have any interest in attracting women.

Go to 2:10

When you eat meals out of a plastic bowl and look in the mirror more then most girls, you'll pull less pussy.
This is why wealthy, older men have been the most dependable "fans" of pro bodybuilding.

[Humble Narcissist]

I agree. Bringing too much attention to the amount of work it takes for one to look a certain way is advertising that one's body is the product of time-consuming hard work rather than genetics.

Women would rather have that time spent on them and also have what they (at the very least)perceive as the man's good genetics passed on to their children.

Yeah, I didn't even think about the genetics angle.

[Teutonic Knight 1]

Says what I and many here been saying for years, dont go bigger than 170-180 assuming 5'9-6'2 if you have any interest in attracting women.

Re-posted 2X !.

[ThisisOverload]

This is why guys should never talk about exercise at all to women.  Train in secret and shut up about it.  Women have this fantasy that a man can be lean and muscular without training (meaning he's a narcissist), can have loads of money without actually working hard (soap operas, 50 Shades of Grey) so he takes time away from them.  Why not give them what they want and fantasize about?

I agree 100%!  This guy is a douche nozzle and probably annoys the shit out of women with his constant talk about eating or working out.  Very few women want to hear about all the chicken and tuna you eat, how you guzzle proteins shakes when your not hungry anyway because you need the amino acids.  Lol get real.  Only chicks into crossfit and serious weightlifting give two shits about this stuff.  Most women find it boring and stupid.

There seems to be a limit for most chicks when it comes to muscles, they don't mind you being bigger than other guys, but once you get full silverback gorilla mode, MOST of them aren't into it.  When i was super hardcore into lifting and talked about it all the time, you could tell women were like "alright, that's nice i guess", but women want you to be hyper focused on them.  You never EVER make things in life seem too challenging, women love confidence.  Just tell them you workout for "fun" a couple days a week and leave it at that, 90% of the women on this planet don't give a shit about macros, the anabolic window or your passion to horde hundreds of tupper ware items and cook 12 chicken breasts at a time on Sundays.

This guy is a class A douche.  It's not his muscles, he's just an annoying cunit.

[Matt]

Everything under the sun is foolishness in the end 
But I don't think you can really force attractiveness, as in sexual attractiveness, some will like you, some not, but trying too hard is probably not too attractive. But I'm no casanova, I just say fuck it, take it or leave it 

I think preoccupation with grooming by guys is disgusting too. That's gay behavior. You can often tell if a dude is gay by their perfect eyebrows and skin and hair etc.

I agree.  I prefer just not doing anything at all to get women.  Just not worrying about it whatsoever, and letting the chips fall where they may.

I don't see anything wrong with having perfect eyebrows and skin and hair though.  I shave what little uni-brow I get, and I probably do that once a month.  What's the alternative - having a uni-brow?  I think they look annoying.  Mine wouldn't be very big anyway, so probably once a month when I notice it again, I shave it off.

I have a great head of hair as it is, but I don't want to spend an hour a day making it so that it holds in place perfectly or something though.

[Van_Bilderass]

I don't see anything wrong with having perfect eyebrows and skin and hair though.  I shave what little uni-brow I get, and I probably do that once a month.  What's the alternative - having a uni-brow?  I think they look annoying.  Mine wouldn't be very big anyway, so probably once a month when I notice it again, I shave it off.

Fixing a unibrow is one thing but some go to a barber who does I don't know what with the eyebrows, but it can look unnatural. Same with these perfect beards where they etch in perfectly straight sharp lines. Do you know what I'm talking about?

[CalvinH]

Gayer then another thread about men’s insecurities.

[The Scott]

Fixing a unibrow is one thing but some go to a barber who does I don't know what with the eyebrows, but it can look unnatural. Same with these perfect beards where they etch in perfectly straight sharp lines. Do you know what I'm talking about?

Well stated, sir!  My late brother (my youngest) had a term for exactly what you describe above.  It is a favorite of mine and I use it from time to time..."Style Fags".

He would chide me if I even appeared to give more than a casual fuck about the way I looked.  For a few years I also worked as a "bouncer" along with my manual labor jobs and given my insecurities from when I was younger and smaller I would try on different shirts trying my best to "look as big and scary" as possible as I did not know how to fight. My little brother would poke his head in the room and tell me to "Stop being such a Style Fag and quit worrying about some disco douche not being afraid of me"...

The subject of this thread is most definitely a genuine Style Fag.

I miss my littlest brother. 

[BB]

Same with these perfect beards where they etch in perfectly straight sharp lines. Do you know what I'm talking about?

This one catches me all the time. Tremendously feminine thing to do to trait that's suppose to make you more masculine.

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[The Scott]

This one catches me all the time. Tremendously feminine thing to do to trait that's suppose to make you more masculine.

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That picture is of a real Style Fag. 

[Van_Bilderass]

This one catches me all the time. Tremendously feminine thing to do to trait that's suppose to make you more masculine.

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Haha that's it exactly. Plain offensive 
Well groomed is one thing, but too "perfect" is disgusting.

Regarding eyebrows, I don't have a unibrow but a few years back when I still had hair I was at the hairdressers and when the arab was done with the hair he asked if I wanted to do my eyebrows as well. I hadn't even considered that there was something wrong with my eyebrows, so I said no thanks, I didn't know what he had in mind 

I have a pretty big beard now and some have recommended I go to a barber as I was complaining how long it takes to trim it with cissors etc. I'm not against it necessarily. Anyone here go to a barber for beard trims?

[obsidian]

This is why guys should never talk about exercise at all to women.  Train in secret and shut up about it.  Women have this fantasy that a man can be lean and muscular without training (meaning he's a narcissist), can have loads of money without actually working hard (soap operas, 50 Shades of Grey) so he takes time away from them.  Why not give them what they want and fantasize about?

All this goes away once robotic sex dolls approach lifelike realism. What would you choose? A 10/10 doll that can fuck 24/7, does not take a shit, does not age and can have any body you want, make any sounds you want etc. etc.?

Or a real woman that has periods, can smell sometimes, has emotional issues etc. etc.

I am betting most men would opt for the lifelike robot 100%

Once that happens real women will become a lot less demanding. Because they won't be needed and their options are limited.

[MAXX]

Well ofcourse. There is a cut off point for where a body/muscles does you any good in terms of dating&women.

Being born with a good face and a compelling personality trumps a body any day of the week.

A man is more defined by his actions, more so than sitting around being "pretty". Sitting around being pretty is a female trait and will not get you anywhere.

[Humble Narcissist]

All this goes away once robotic sex dolls approach lifelike realism. What would you choose? A 10/10 doll that can fuck 24/7, does not take a shit, does not age and can have any body you want, make any sounds you want etc. etc.?

Or a real woman that has periods, can smell sometimes, has emotional issues etc. etc.

I am betting most men would opt for the lifelike robot 100%

Once that happens real women will become a lot less demanding. Because they won't be needed and their options are limited.

Today, even fat women think they have unlimited options.

[Atlas pump]

None care if you're muscular. They just want a man who is reasonable shape.

When has being jacked ever mattered to them?  Money reigns king.

[Humble Narcissist]

None care if you're muscular. They just want a man who is reasonable shape.

When has being jacked ever mattered to them?  Money reigns king.

Yes, hot women can get any man so why would they choose a broke guy and struggle.

[El Diablo Blanco]

Today, even fat women think they have unlimited options.

You can thank Tindr for that.

[Flexacon]

Haha that's it exactly. Plain offensive 
Well groomed is one thing, but too "perfect" is disgusting.

Regarding eyebrows, I don't have a unibrow but a few years back when I still had hair I was at the hairdressers and when the arab was done with the hair he asked if I wanted to do my eyebrows as well. I hadn't even considered that there was something wrong with my eyebrows, so I said no thanks, I didn't know what he had in mind 

I have a pretty big beard now and some have recommended I go to a barber as I was complaining how long it takes to trim it with cissors etc. I'm not against it necessarily. Anyone here go to a barber for beard trims?

Arabs tend to be super hairy, unibrows that come down their nose and facial hair that start at their cheekbones. They tend to get that stuff plucked (threading) at the barbers so they look more human. Him asking if you wanted it wasn't that unusual.

Yeah get the beard trimmed at the barbers. A good barber will make it look neater, fuller and more contoured without giving you the full homo look as above.

[Howard]

In the past more muscular I got, the more attention dudes would give me and it seemed to give fat girls an open invitation to approach me.  I was like fuck this shit.

Once I leaned down, I went to the XS Vegas pool party and pulled pussy nonstop while these dudes with awesome muscular physiques walked around like a bunch of losers.

I don't know you, but, I'd bet you actually TALKED to the girls and asked about their life.

A smile and sense of humor while giving her lots of complements and attention is the deal!