Got cleared to go back to normal training again

[Coach is Back!]

Just pointing out a self absorbed asshole who needs attention all the time 58 and killing himself for a

5 dollar plastic trophy that is a rocket scientist for you.

Coach is so desperate for attention he had to start a thread on his used f-150 that’s pathetic no one

Gives a fuck about a f-150. The three cars sitting in walter whites garage are worth more than coach

Is. You don’t see him on here every day starting topics about himself

Interesting, video was over 2 years ago, first post about this was about 4 months ago, truck was posted about 3 months ago now this. Not exactly topics about me EVERYDAY. Not sure why you’re bringing WW into this, glad he lives a nice life. I prefer trucks and a home on the beach I’ve had for 17 years but thanks for your concern.

[The Scott]

Not that you won't, but just be careful sir. 

[Coach is Back!]

Not that you won't, but just be careful sir.

Appreciate it. My chances of competing again at this point are slim to none. Not because I don’t want to but rather it’s just not a good idea.

[Coach is Back!]

She's a Getbigger, I wouldn't be surprised if she had a touch of troll in her heart.

"1"

Nah, my wife hasn’t been on here or even trolled since we got married in 2008. She’s much smarter and disciplined than I am. 

[Coach is Back!]

Come on, man. There's no walking away from steroids completely, at least HRT is a must for old juiceheads. Most would rather die than go clean, just the way it is. Competing and maintaining natural? There is no maintaining off everything and absolutely no competing, unless you want to weigh 50lbs less with 10lbs more fat.

Every word of this is 100% true. I will never go back to heavy off season cycles and especially pre-contest cycles. No need to. I’m good with TRT

[pellius]

You look fantastic here Joe..



As someone that really likes you, my suggestion is to walk away from the steroids. Want to continue working out and competing? Sure, why not, but do it all natural. The results won't be as impressive, but we need you alive man.

If you can keep that weight and overall shape as displayed in the picture above, you're all set buddy. There's nothing left to prove Joe.

"1"

That is a great pic of him. Coach, when was that pic taken?

I don't think he has to go natural. There's use and abuse. He should definitely be on TRT. What's wrong with bringing your levels up to high normal? Why put in all that effort when your hormone level is below the optimal levels. Also, Deca is very helpful for those with joint stiffness and even a nephrologist my neighbor goes to is treated with Deca to prevent muscle wasting as he is in stage 4 CKD.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17522475/

If there are medicines, hormones, peptides ... anything that can help you improve your quality of life you might as well take advantage of all the advancements in science. I look at someone like Sylvestor Stallone and no way would he have had the quality of life and been able to do all the things in life that he did without the judicious use of steroids and HGH. He could drop dead tomorrow and it still would have been worth it. At least, it would have been worth it to me. Life to me isn't about just trying to exist as long as you can.

[WalterWhite]

I don't think he has to go natural. There's use and abuse. He should definitely be on TRT. What's wrong with bringing your levels up to high normal? Why put in all that effort when your hormone level is below the optimal levels. Also, Deca is very helpful for those with joint stiffness and even a nephrologist my neighbor goes to is treated with Deca to prevent muscle wasting as he is in stage 4 CKD.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17522475/

If there are medicines, hormones, peptides ... anything that can help you improve your quality of life you might as well take advantage of all the advancements in science. I look at someone like Sylvestor Stallone and no way would he have had the quality of life and been able to do all the things in life that he did without the judicious use of steroids and HGH. He could drop dead tomorrow and it still would have been worth it. At least, it would have been worth it to me. Life to me isn't about just trying to exist as long as you can.

Women have been using hormones forever and its now replacement is becoming more commonplace for older men. Men become more sensitive to androgens as they age so dose adjustment is key. Keep an eye on CBC (especially hematocrit) and lipids which are directly impacted by androgens.

I think we are the same age and I'm with you regarding quality of life.

[FitnessFrenzy]

Good news, Joe!

[Howard]

Just pointing out a self absorbed asshole who needs attention all the time 58 and killing himself for a

5 dollar plastic trophy that is a rocket scientist for you.

Coach is so desperate for attention he had to start a thread on his used f-150 that’s pathetic no one

Gives a fuck about a f-150. The three cars sitting in walter whites garage are worth more than coach

Is. You don’t see him on here every day starting topics about himself

The ONLY purpose for this kind of hyper negative, insulting post is to ridicule the person.
I dunno, maybe you got a brief laugh or feel you got some weird triumph of "internet revenge".

Granted, Coach has given his fair share of insults and mean spirited banter on getbig.com
BUT, to me Coach ( Joe) seems like a decent man that is dealing with a serious potential illness.
Sadly. there is no "decency or consideration" by the social media "peanut gallery".

He's a trainer and that business often requires a lot of social media interaction.
Having to finally "give up" on serious BB contests , after decades in the game ,is emotionally tough.

I personally applaud Coach for having the balls to be honest about his personal health .
Now , he's faced with the reality of doing the right thing for his health and longevity.
I can relate to his inner struggle  with this and wish him a long, healthy life going fwd.

[wes]

Fuck these homos Joe train your guts out and go for it.

I feel like a lotta cats in this thread are jealous that they cant make the comittment,and you look better than them by lighht years at your advanced age.

Anyone wanna argue about it...................... .....................scr ew you!  LOL 

[IroNat]

Fuck these homos Joe train your guts out and go for it.

I feel like a lotta cats in this thread are jealous that they cant make the comittment,and you look better than them by lighht years at your advanced age.

Anyone wanna argue about it...................... .....................scr ew you!  LOL 

You tell 'em, Wes.

[IroNat]

The ONLY purpose for this kind of hyper negative, insulting post is to ridicule the person.
I dunno, maybe you got a brief laugh or feel you got some weird triumph of "internet revenge".

Granted, Coach has given his fair share of insults and mean spirited banter on getbig.com
BUT, to me Coach ( Joe) seems like a decent man that is dealing with a serious potential illness.
Sadly. there is no "decency or consideration" by the social media "peanut gallery".

He's a trainer and that business often requires a lot of social media interaction.
Having to finally "give up" on serious BB contests , after decades in the game ,is emotionally tough.

I personally applaud Coach for having the balls to be honest about his personal health .
Now , he's faced with the reality of doing the right thing for his health and longevity.
I can relate to his inner struggle  with this and wish him a long, healthy life going fwd.

Howard, what BS.

[Howard]

Howard, what BS.

Huh?

Feel free to disagree with me BUT, I was being totally honest and sincere.

[Primemuscle]

Every word of this is 100% true. I will never go back to heavy off season cycles and especially pre-contest cycles. No need to. I’m good with TRT

I'm good with TRT as well. -Never felt better. Be sure to keep up with your labs, including PSA and hematocrit. As far as your testosterone levels, IMO many doctors want them to be too low which they base on age. Are you using HCG and Arimidex?

[Howard]

Nah, my wife hasn’t been on here or even trolled since we got married in 2008. She’s much smarter and disciplined than I am.

Sounds like you're married to a great lady 

Now that hardcore contest prep regime is behind you, a whole new world will open up.
Trust me , there are more things to spend your time and effort on then you previously considered.

For example, Kal Skalak ( '76 Mr America, '82 Mr U ), got into competitive cycling after he left pro bodybuilding.
https://whywetrain.com/kalman-szkalak/

When one door closes, another one opens.

[Bevo]

I'm good with TRT as well. -Never felt better. Be sure to keep up with your labs, including PSA and hematocrit. As far as your testosterone levels, IMO many doctors want them to be too low which they base on age. Are you using HCG and Arimidex?

What exactly is a doctors prescribed trt? 100/150mg a wk?

[Primemuscle]

What exactly is a doctors prescribed trt? 100/150mg a wk?

Wouldn't this depend on the doctor, their patient and and what their labs indicate? My doctor currently prescribes me 150 mg a week once a week.

[Bevo]

Wouldn't this depend on the doctor, their patient and and what their labs indicate? My doctor currently prescribes me 150 mg a week once a week.

That’s true. I was just wondering what the general dosages that most likely fall into. I know some bbers  would say 400+ mg is trt haha

[Primemuscle]

That’s true. I was just wondering what the general dosages that most likely fall into. I know some bbers  would say 400+ mg is trt haha

For the most part people, bodybuilders or other not, those who think 400 mg or more of test is a usual proper dosage are dead wrong. Their test levels are likely through the roof. On my conservative dose, my free test has occasionally hit or gone over 1,000. The range of total testosterone for people in my age group is anywhere from 156 - 819 At this point, I only do labs twice a year.

[The Scott]

For the most part people, bodybuilders or other not, those who think 400 mg or more of test is a usual proper dosage are dead wrong. Their test levels are likely through the roof. On my conservative dose, my free test has occasionally hit or gone over 1,000. The range of total testosterone for people in my age group is anywhere from 156 - 819 At this point, I only do labs twice a year.

WOw.  THe last time i was checked I was at the low end of 140.  I cannot have HRT right now as my physicians have said so.  They explained it to me but I can't think of exactly what they said.  I know. I've made mistakes in the post but I am too tire =d to correct them right now.   Tired. 

[pellius]

Sounds like you're married to a great lady 

Now that hardcore contest prep regime is behind you, a whole new world will open up.
Trust me , there are more things to spend your time and effort on then you previously considered.

For example, Kal Skalak ( '76 Mr America, '82 Mr U ), got into competitive cycling after he left pro bodybuilding.
https://whywetrain.com/kalman-szkalak/

When one door closes, another one opens.

When is your door going to open, Howard? When are you going to find some purpose to your life besides trolling GetBig telling fart jokes

[pellius]

For the most part people, bodybuilders or other not, those who think 400 mg or more of test is a usual proper dosage are dead wrong. Their test levels are likely through the roof. On my conservative dose, my free test has occasionally hit or gone over 1,000. The range of total testosterone for people in my age group is anywhere from 156 - 819 At this point, I only do labs twice a year.

I think you need to take another look at your blood test. Free Test is the unbounded testosterone and it is what really counts and is a completely different reading than your total Test, which is just how much testosterone you have in your body most of it which is bounded by SHBG.

[honest]

Life's too short to either go hard at your age or go natural. TRT and HGH at HRT levels will give you a good quality of life and enough recovery to train as you age, you can't compete but as we age we have nothing left to prove. Leave that for young guys with time to recover on their side.

[Howard]

When is your door going to open, Howard? When are you going to find some purpose to your life besides trolling GetBig telling fart jokes

After my lackluster , pathetic bodybuilding days , I found an even more useless activity .

If you guys feel dumb after reading my posts, imagine how retarded I feel for writing them.

My final request will be for any remaining get-biggers to line up and piss on my grave.
Then someone can post a video of the piss line with the thread title of :"Howard; pissed off in life, pissed on in death"
My tombstone inscription will say :

"Going to heaven  sucks, because Howard went there."

[Primemuscle]

WOw.  THe last time i was checked I was at the low end of 140.  I cannot have HRT right now as my physicians have said so.  They explained it to me but I can't think of exactly what they said.  I know. I've made mistakes in the post but I am too tire =d to correct them right now.   Tired.

I am interested to know what your doctor's reasoning is. 140 is ridiculously low. It's no wonder you're tired. Low T, is diagnosed when levels fall below 300 nanograms per deciliter (ng/dL). A normal range is typically 300 to 1,000 ng/dL. Even for someone of my advanced age 140 is off the chart low. The range for males 70-79 is 156–819.

The American Urology Association (AUA) identifies low blood testosterone (Low-T) as less than 300 nanograms per deciliter (ng/dL) on two tests obtained in the morning. Several symptoms or conditions may accompany TD:

Low sex drive
Fatigue
Reduced lean muscle mass
Irritability
Erectile dysfunction
Depression

There are other health issues which can also cause these symptoms. There also serious health conditions which may be caused because of low testosterone.

Low T levels in men may increase their risk of developing coronary artery disease (CAD), metabolic syndrome, and type 2 diabetes. Reduced T levels in men with congestive heart failure (CHF) portends a poor prognosis and is associated with increased mortality.

Decreases in testosterone can lead to physical changes including the following:
increased body fat.
decreased strength/mass of muscles.
fragile bones.
decreased body hair.
swelling/tenderness in the breast tissue.
hot flashes.
increased fatigue.
effects on cholesterol metabolism.

Over the past several years since the use of Testosterone Therapy has increased in men, there have been studies that have shown that men who take Testosterone Replacement Therapy (TRT) are more likely to have an increased risk of Heart Attack. However, this is false.

If you haven't seen an endocrinologist yet, I highly recommend you do. My Urologist knows a little about HRT as does my primary care physician, but that's not what they specialize in.

Because I consistently had high PSA numbers, there was a concern about TRT and prostate cancer. For that reason my doctor checked my PSA several times a year. TRT does not cause prostate cancer, but once you have cancer it may accelerate it's advancement. Prostate cancer is usually slow growing. It is also very common, especially in older men.

Had I not been on TRT and had I not had frequent lab work, my prostate cancer would likely not have been been detected in a very early stage. The bottom line is that being on TRT may have saved my life. My PSA remains undetectable a decade after the prostatectomy. Many of the men in the prostate cancer group I joined, didn't find out they had it until it was too late to eradicate it because it had metastasized. Honestly, I felt very lucky to have made the choices I did.

Doctors practice medicine...this means they don't know everything. Your health should be something you are in control of. There's nothing wrong with getting more than one medical opinion.