Oregon is fucked

[Primemuscle]

Oregon fuqed themselves a long time ago

Which explains why Oregon's influx population continues to grow by leaps and bounds. 

[Primemuscle]

I would like to hear what the beat cops have to say because from the outside you have to think that arresting the same addicts every few months does absolutely nothing but tax the system and waste court resources. If those people are simply fined, is it not better than the current setup? This change seems to support the notion that arresting addicts doesn't help anyone and wastes resources that could be better spent.

Exactly.

[Primemuscle]

i know somebody that worked in a drug rehab center

he said the most common way people stopped using drugs was by doing jail time for drug use/possession, that was the only thing that made them realize this is no way to live and forced them to make changes

E

That person you knew didn't know what they were talking about. Statistics say otherwise.

[Primemuscle]

There won't be police to arrest anyone anyway.

Good point. But then, defunding the police isn't going to happen. If it does, it won't last.

[Primemuscle]

Interesting.  Decriminalization is one thing, if they are speaking about not arresting people who are just buying it to use personally.  I once read that someone was charged with possessing as little as something like 0.04 grams of cocaine.  Basically, 40 milligrams.  A quantity that you could probably dust off a $20 bill in Florida in 1980.

It may not have been exactly that quantity, but I remember it being ridiculously low.

If this just prevents drug users from facing drug charges, I don't see an issue.  Legalization of marijuana in Canada has been a bit of a mess, but in time, may sort itself out.  Decriminalization was in Ontario around 2003 for a period of time, and that seemed to be fine.  So far, decriminalization has not been that smooth - but most likely, that is due to ridiculous marijuana regulations.

I'm ok with social justice politicians doing something like this, in the sense that I think it's a valid point to say that people innocent of any actual crime against violence or property are being harmed by these drug laws.

But next, I don't doubt that SJW's in Oregon will demand that purse-snatching become legal.

Here's something worth considering.

Jul 25, 2019 — Oregon cannabis tax revenue gets higher and higher ... ended on June 30, topping $102 million, a 24.2 percent increase over the $82.2 million collected in 2018

[Matt]

Which explains why Oregon's influx population continues to grow by leaps and bounds. 

Oregon's non-White population is increasing dramatically.  You are correct.  That was his point.

[Earl1972]

That person you knew didn't know what they were talking about. Statistics say otherwise.

well that is what i was told, it makes sense to me

since when do you agree with statistics?

E

[visualizeperfection]

Here's something worth considering.

Jul 25, 2019 — Oregon cannabis tax revenue gets higher and higher ... ended on June 30, topping $102 million, a 24.2 percent increase over the $82.2 million collected in 2018

Who cares? Where is that money going? Likely to
Utter bullshit. Hopefully it goes to repairing the damage YOUR people have caused in YOUR state.

[Earl1972]

Who cares? Where is that money going? Likely to
Utter bullshit. Hopefully it goes to repairing the damage YOUR people have caused in YOUR state.

they are rioting right now over the vote count, heck they have been rioting non stop since memorial day when fetanyl floyd overdosed

E

[Sissysquats]

Which explains why Oregon's influx population continues to grow by leaps and bounds. 

  Considering the type of folks moving there.....I would consider that an endorsement

[SOMEPARTS]

Good point. But then, defunding the police isn't going to happen. If it does, it won't last.

So being a cop there....why would you? No guns, batons or pepper spray.....and make sure not to offend anyone or lose your job and be sued.

[Primemuscle]

well that is what i was told, it makes sense to me

since when do you agree with statistics?

E

Whether or not I concur with statistics depends on their source. It is good practice to check the source for bias and accuracy.

[Board_SHERIF]

Whether or not I concur with statistics depends on their source. It is good practice to check the source for bias and accuracy.

haa haa funny coming from you...

[Primemuscle]

Who cares? Where is that money going? Likely to
Utter bullshit. Hopefully it goes to repairing the damage YOUR people have caused in YOUR state.

Who are my people? Nobody in I know is rioting or looting in Portland or anywhere else. There are hundreds of millions of liberals in this country, at least a million of the folks in the Portland metro area are liberals, probably more since the population leans to the left. There is 298 thousand registered Democrats in Multnomah county, 64 thousand registered Republicans, 166 thousand Unaffiliated and 20 thousand registered Independents. Most of the population are peace loving and don't support riots or certainly not looting. The rioters and looters who are a small portion of those demonstrating  number in the 100's, if that.

[MAXX]

Yes. This is exactly right.

You just want to be able to legalize everything including pedophelia you soggy old libqueer.

[visualizeperfection]

Who are my people? Nobody in I know is rioting or looting in Portland or anywhere else. There are hundreds of millions of liberals in this country, at least a million of the folks in the Portland metro area are liberals, probably more since the population leans to the left. There is 298 thousand registered Democrats in Multnomah county, 64 thousand registered Republicans, 166 thousand Unaffiliated and 20 thousand registered Independents. Most of the population are peace loving and don't support riots or certainly not looting. The rioters and looters who are a small portion of those demonstrating  number in the 100's, if that.

Mostly homosexuals.

[chaos]

Fuck it, let them die, it's not my responsibility.

[Tapeworm]

Laws which proscribe actions affecting no one other than the person doing it are queer things.

The government isn't your daddy. It doesn't exist to make decisions for you, as if you're a child incapable of making your own.

When it's a law supporting the decision someone would have made on their own, such as not using drugs, people promptly miss the point and support the law. Hey, dumbass. Can you not see that it isn't the law itself you're agreeing with? You're agreeing with the government's position that it will decide things for you, and you don't get to decide things for yourself. I'm not on board with that at all.

"The government deciding for you and protecting you from yourself" is going to be the principal point of contention for the next four years. Whether you agree with it is something you should contemplate.

[Dave D]

Who are my people? Nobody in I know is rioting or looting in Portland or anywhere else. There are hundreds of millions of liberals in this country, at least a million of the folks in the Portland metro area are liberals, probably more since the population leans to the left. There is 298 thousand registered Democrats in Multnomah county, 64 thousand registered Republicans, 166 thousand Unaffiliated and 20 thousand registered Independents. Most of the population are peace loving and don't support riots or certainly not looting. The rioters and looters who are a small portion of those demonstrating  number in the 100's, if that.

Prime its a good practice to check your source for bias and accuracy.

[Teutonic Knight 1]

Mostly homosexuals.

  just drop my espresso coffee cup 

[Thin Lizzy]

That'll be the mistake, not the legalization.

Ok, it's possible that a lot of humans are incapable of responsible, adult behavior and will mortgage all their tomorrows for a good today. After all, we already have a drug epidemic, an obesity epidemic, drinking, gambling, etc. Indulgence. So perhaps by making lethal indulgences available, we can select for breeding pairs which are inclined to be sensible epicureans, and produce more of the same. The Hog At The Trough disposition which plagues our society and pours over airline seat boundaries could become a thing of the past. I, for one, welcome our new poison peddling overlords.

Agree. If a guy wants to drink or drug himself to death that’s his business. Just don’t expect me to pay for it.

[Tapeworm]

Fuckin A right.

But because Oregon, "We need to decide what kind of a society we want to live in. We need to support one another through difficult times."

And BAM they're taking your money by force of law. They will decide for you what kind of a society you want to live in.