Trump - Is he going to concede or stay in power by force?

[Moontrane]

There must be over one billion guns in the hands of Americans.  I know multiple gun enthusiast that have over 100 guns each. As a kid growing up we had 6-7 guns in the house at anytime- minimum.

Buddy took me out shooting a while back: shotgun, three ARs, Walther PPK, .44 semiauto, and a 1911.  He grew up working in his father’s store in South Central LA, so he’d been around guns all his life.  It’s a challenge to explain to a big city liberal how embedded guns are to large swaths of our country.

[irishdave]

Maybe not in your little fragile little world.  But 75 million of us don't live in a manufactured false reality.   It's funny to know that you are so easily emasculated.  Funny, but not surprising. 

"L"

Cuck

[AsianExpat]

Cuck

Who's a cuck now?

Woosh!

Biden wins Arizona, boosting margin of victory over Trump: Edison Research

https://news.yahoo.com/biden-wins-arizona-boosting-margin-042326244.html?soc_src=hl-viewer&soc_trk=fb

[LurkerNoMore]

Cuck

Coming from an "irish"   Bitch please. 

[LurkerNoMore]

damn right i'm scared, anybody with a brain would be

E

No.  Just someone with insecurities, low self esteem and elevated estrogen levels.

"L"

[pellius]

They’ll ask the public to turn in the guns. Give a time period before the law is enacted. Thereafter the penalty - if found with a gun in possession (home) is very harsh. The penalty if a crime is committed with a weapon is harsher. They will make the penalty a deterrent.

.......

And how has that worked for other illegal possessions such as drugs?

This is not an argument worth having for me. First of all, it just won't happen as it is in the Constitution. There are disagreements as to the degree of possession but gun ownership is supported by both sides.  If you believe you can disarm American when we can't even disarm criminals then that's OK with me. I'll always have my guns whereas you will have to depend on the government to protect you. Good luck with that. I've seen how that has worked out.

[pellius]

Buddy took me out shooting a while back: shotgun, three ARs, Walther PPK, .44 semiauto, and a 1911.  He grew up working in his father’s store in South Central LA, so he’d been around guns all his life.  It’s a challenge to explain to a big city liberal how embedded guns are to large swaths of our country.

This is it right here. Excellent observation!

[Griffith]

“REPORT: DOMINION DELETED 2.7 MILLION TRUMP VOTES NATIONWIDE.

DATA ANALYSIS FINDS 221,000 PENNSYLVANIA VOTES SWITCHED FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP TO BIDEN.

941,000 TRUMP VOTES DELETED.

STATES USING DOMINION VOTING SYSTEMS SWITCHED 435,000 VOTES FROM TRUMP TO BIDEN.”

Chanel Rion, OANN

[Van_Bilderass]

“REPORT: DOMINION DELETED 2.7 MILLION TRUMP VOTES NATIONWIDE.

DATA ANALYSIS FINDS 221,000 PENNSYLVANIA VOTES SWITCHED FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP TO BIDEN.

941,000 TRUMP VOTES DELETED.

STATES USING DOMINION VOTING SYSTEMS SWITCHED 435,000 VOTES FROM TRUMP TO BIDEN.”

Chanel Rion, OANN

I would love nothing more than if something like this was proven. I suspect nothing like this will stick, widespread organized conspiracy will not be proven. Trump just throws anything and everything out there that will make his supporters distrust the results, even if he knows most of it is bullshit. It's like the Hunter laptop thing, according to Guiliani etc there was proof of pedophilia and a lot of other "explosive" things... what happened? It looks to me like it was mostly bullshit, they would have released the whole hardrive before the elections if there was anything substancial there, but they didn't.

Yes, the fix was in wrt to this election and it's pathetic for the left to complain about Trump not acknowledging defeat when Hillary STILL hasn't acknowledged defeat in 2016, it was "stolen" from her. Hillary and many democrats didn't even acknowledge defeat of Gore in 2000. The fix was in but probably not at a level where the courts will say there was widespread corruption and illegality that will overturn the election.

Trump has to ride this to the bitter end, even if he knows it's useless and that he will be humiliated in the end. He owes his supporters this, he says he won big in actuality, he must act like it. If he concedes it will leave half the country utterly demoralized. Chances are, though, that this will end in a sad whimper where Trump is shaking hands with Biden congratulating him.

[Primemuscle]

I would love nothing more than if something like this was proven. I suspect nothing like this will stick, widespread organized conspiracy will not be proven. Trump just throws anything and everything out there that will make his supporters distrust the results, even if he knows most of it is bullshit. It's like the Hunter laptop thing, according to Guiliani etc there was proof of pedophilia and a lot of other "explosive" things... what happened? It looks to me like it was mostly bullshit, they would have released the whole hardrive before the elections if there was anything substancial there, but they didn't.

Yes, the fix was in wrt to this election and it's pathetic for the left to complain about Trump not acknowledging defeat when Hillary STILL hasn't acknowledged defeat in 2016, it was "stolen" from her. Hillary and many democrats didn't even acknowledge defeat of Gore in 2000. The fix was in but probably not at a level where the courts will say there was widespread corruption and illegality that will overturn the election.

Trump has to ride this to the bitter end, even if he knows it's useless and that he will be humiliated in the end. He owes his supporters this, he says he won big in actuality, he must act like it. If he concedes it will leave half the country utterly demoralized. Chances are, though, that this will end in a sad whimper where Trump is shaking hands with Biden congratulating him.

What Hilary said seems like a confession to me. “Donald Trump is going to be our president,” she said, speaking at the New Yorker hotel in Manhattan the day after Trump claimed victory. “We owe him an open mind and a chance to lead.”

Hilary won the popular vote by almost 3 million, but not the electoral vote. Trump lost this election by over 6 million popular votes and counting. Biden got 74 more electoral votes than Trump.

Ultimately, In 2016 Trump received 304 electoral votes and Clinton 227, as two faithless electors defected from Trump and five defected from Clinton.

[pellius]

What Hilary said seems like a confession to me. “Donald Trump is going to be our president,” she said, speaking at the New Yorker hotel in Manhattan the day after Trump claimed victory. “We owe him an open mind and a chance to lead.”

Hilary won the popular vote by almost 3 million, but not the electoral vote. Trump lost this election by over 6 million popular votes and counting. Biden got 74 more electoral votes than Trump.

Ultimately, In 2016 Trump received 304 electoral votes and Clinton 227, as two faithless electors defected from Trump and five defected from Clinton.

This is a good example of what I mean when I say you seem to be oblivious as to how you come across to others. Your unwavering, close-minded bias is so clearly evident that no one gives you any credibility. You cherry-pick an example where Hillary is making a concession speech, as all losing candidates have done (and don't say what about Trump because the election hasn't been certified) and when the eyes of the world are watching. What is she supposed to say? And do you believe she meant these words judging by her words and actions. She has worked against him since day one.

And why do you mention the popular vote? That's not how we elect a president. If it was the opposite case, you wouldn't bring this up. This is your hypocrisy.

In spite of what you think, and I have no doubt you have a high opinion of yourself in this regard, you are just not a fair-minded person and are oblivious to how others clearly see it and react to it.

[Van_Bilderass]

What Hilary said seems like a confession to me. “Donald Trump is going to be our president,” she said, speaking at the New Yorker hotel in Manhattan the day after Trump claimed victory. “We owe him an open mind and a chance to lead.”

Hilary won the popular vote by almost 3 million, but not the electoral vote. Trump lost this election by over 6 million popular votes and counting. Biden got 74 more electoral votes than Trump.

Ultimately, In 2016 Trump received 304 electoral votes and Clinton 227, as two faithless electors defected from Trump and five defected from Clinton.

Whatever she said there, she has always said Trump is illegitimate, that the Russians got him elected. Saw a video where she again said it a couple of weeks back, and how the Russians were again working with Trump for this election.

She didn't think Bush was legitimate either. From a recent Ann Coulter column:

  And yet, to this day, Democrats claim Bush was "selected, not elected,” as so wittily put by Hillary Clinton.

Hillary was still harping on Bush’s stolen election when she ran for president in the 2008 cycle. At a 2007 primary presidential debate, she delighted the Democratic audience by remarking, “Well, I think it is a problem that Bush was elected in 2000. (APPLAUSE) I actually thought somebody else was elected in that election, but … (APPLAUSE).”

At a subsequent primary debate in 2008, Hillary said that she and President Clinton had been making great progress “until, unfortunately, the Supreme Court handed the presidency to George Bush.” 

So these people can't really criticize Trump for something they did themselves.

[TheGrinch]

[Primemuscle]

This is a good example of what I mean when I say you seem to be oblivious as to how you come across to others. Your unwavering, close-minded bias is so clearly evident that no one gives you any credibility. You cherry-pick an example where Hillary is making a concession speech, as all losing candidates have done (and don't say what about Trump because the election hasn't been certified) and when the eyes of the world are watching. What is she supposed to say? And do you believe she meant these words judging by her words and actions. She has worked against him since day one.


And why do you mention the popular vote? That's not how we elect a president. If it was the opposite case, you wouldn't bring this up. This is your hypocrisy.

In spite of what you think, and I have no doubt you have a high opinion of yourself in this regard, you are just not a fair-minded person and are oblivious to how others clearly see it and react to it.

Hilary gave her concession speech on November 9, 2016 which was the day after the election and not when the election was certified on December 13, 2016.

There are some other similarities between the 2016 election and the 2020 election.  The preliminary Electoral College vote count was 306 votes for Trump and 232 votes for Clinton, with challenges expected in three states: Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

I am not really concerned about how I come across to others folks on Getbig. As best as I know that is the only concession speech Hilary made. Cherry picking implies I picked this speech from others. There is nothing closed minded about stating facts. If you can find where Hilary's concession speech is different from what I posted, feel free to post it. The point is she said exactly what she was supposed to say, just as most losing candidates have done up until now. Who cares whether she meant what she said. She said what was expected.

Why not bring up the popular vote? It is a part of our process of electing the President. There is nothing hypocritical in my doing this. There are ongoing discussions as to whether the Electoral College is still viable which go back as far as I can remember. Personally, I think it is still doing what it was intended to do.

In what regard do I have a high opinion of myself? Oblivious to how others see and react to what? What I post on Getbig? You'd be surprised at how fair-minded I am. My resume includes over 30 years as a mediator, employee advocate and political activist for which I have won many awards and certificates.

You are welcome to disagree with the views I express in posts and you often do. That's fine. It isn't going to ruin my day.

Just curious, but why do you think only 57.5% of the registered voters in Hawaii voted in the 2020 election? It was the 4th lowest turnout in the nation. Would you say Hawaiians feel disenfranchised or were they just disinterested in this election? Hawaii leans heavily towards the Democratic Party and has supported Democrats in every presidential election in which it has participated, except 1972 and 1984.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1184621/presidential-election-voter-turnout-rate-state/

[epic is back]

Quote stats from internet or television all you want

Yours eyes is what you should trust

And my eyes trust the size of the crowd in Washington today

[Primemuscle]

Most of the rally participants were not wearing face masks, which help prevent the spread of COVID-19. The massive crowd, filled with red Make America Great Again hats and large flags with Trump’s name, was an unusual site in the nation’s capital, a liberal city. Biden won D.C with 93% of the vote, according to the Associated Press.

Many in the crowd traveled from across the U.S. to attend the event, some from Texas, North Carolina, Indiana, Wisconsin, New York and New Jersey.

Tracy Lavis, wearing a red Trump flag as a cape, waved a large American flag in the square with others who traveled with her from Michigan for the event.

"I needed to be here. We all need to show our president some support," Lavis said, explaining she took an overnight bus to get to D.C. for the rally. "He needs it. He needs us. He’s been rung through the ringer since day one."

Lavis, like other supporters, railed against the integrity of the election and the media declaring former vice president Joe Biden the victor. "It’s not fair. Every legal vote should be counted," she added.

Jeremy Cleary and his mother, Lois, drove from Pennsylvania to support the president. "This is far from over," Jeremy Cleary said of Trump. "He’s still in it."

He noted that he hadn't seen any violence and said he hopes that continues.

"No matter what happens with the election, I’m hoping we can all come together after," he said. "I have a lot of faith in the American people that we can do this."

Backstory:We investigated claims of voter fraud in the election. Here's what we found.

More:Most Republican lawsuits challenging election results in battleground states haven't gone far

Marcello Milone, who traveled with his family, including his 15-year-old son, from South Carolina, said they were there to "demand the truth."

"I don’t understand how the country went to bed with Trump up by tons of votes on Election Night then days later Biden is called the winner,” he said, waving an American flag. "It doesn’t make any sense."

Biden made a comeback in several swing states after millions of absentee and mail-in ballots were counted. The delay was due to a significant rise in mail-in ballots amid the coronavirus pandemic.

Milone argued recounting votes in many states was needed and it would reassure the country of the results.

"If you can do this today, whether you like Biden or you like Trump, what happens when you don’t like the next one," he added. "We need the truth because this is a fundamental aspect of American democracy."

Fewcounter-protesters were spotted near the initial rally, but several D.C. locals held up signs reading "TRUMP LOST." The small group attracted the attention of some Trump supporters, who laughed at the group and yelled things like "you’re a joke" and "the election was rigged."

Jan Bisaga, 27, waved a black "TRUMP IS OVER" sign at Republicans marching around the Capitol. "Welcome to DC!" he screamed while waving at Trump supporters. "Trump lost! Woo!" Trump supporters threw things at him, tore his sign and yelled expletives and "brainwashed by the media!"

Bisaga, who lives in the D.C. area, said he decided to come out and antagonize Trump’s supporters. "I wanted to celebrate Biden’s great victory and to be honest, troll these Trump supporters," he said, laughing. "Them marching isn’t changing the outcome just like me being out here isn’t doing anything."

Later Saturday, Trump supporters faced off with a group of about two dozen counter-protesters near the Supreme Court, where liberals held up signs supporting Biden and Black Lives Matter. One poster said "We made it great on Nov. 3! Go home!"

Dozens of officers – several in riot gear – and metal barricades separated the two groups as they screamed expletives at one another through megaphones. Police had to move back counter-protesters several times as Trump supporters yelled threats and dared them to come face-to-face.

Near Union Station, Trump supporters and counter-protesters fought, and one man was left bloodied. The man, who was wearing an American flag mask, was punched multiple times in the face by at least two people wearing all black. Police and medics quickly offered aid to the man, who collapsed on the ground.

At Black Lives Matter plaza, just a block from the White House, Trump supporters and counter-protesters faced off in a number of tense confrontations. Liberals chased conservatives from the plaza, some tearing flags from Trump supporters and screaming at them on megaphones to "get out" of the city.

Counter-protesters tore one red Trump flag from a Trump supporter and lit it on fire in the square. In another altercation, a Trump supporter used a long white PVC pipe and swung at counter-protesters after someone swiped his hat. Police increased their presence and were using bikes to make a protective line around Trump supporters trying to leave the area.

Saturday night, a group of several dozen people – many wearing all black – moved through the streets, targeting anyone in Trump attire. A group of Trump supporters were dining at P.J. Clarke's near the White House, and someone in the group launched a firework at them, which exploded near a couple's table as they walked away. A man who was dining picked up a chair and threw it at some journalists.

After several arrests, the group and police clashed, and police used a chemical agent on the crowd. Several people graffitied a truck with a MAGA hat on its dashboard outside The Capitol Hilton and slashed one of its tires. People who were hit by the chemical were crying as others washed out their eyes with water.

Although the rally was not considered an extremist event, it caused a buzz in right-wing circles on social media including Parler and Telegram, according to the Anti-Defamation League. Much like the social media site Gab, Parler has quickly attracted the extremist crowd in addition to self-proclaimed center-right conservatives.

Oren Segal, vice president for the Anti-Defamation League's Center on Extremism, told USA TODAY he doesn't believe the event would be a public safety threat. "I would say the D.C. march is kind of a physical manifestation of online platforms like Parler where people are introduced to more extreme concepts," Segal said. "That's the danger."

Background on today's rallies:Trump supporters plan rallies in Washington DC, experts warn extremists may attend

Among the crowd Saturday, there were several massive 20- or 30-foot flags that supporters held out to be spotted from above. "TRUMP 2020 LAW AND ORDER" read one blue and black flag.

Merchandise carts were sprinkled on nearly every corner around the plaza, with merchants yelling "buy your stop the steal T-shirts!" Some passed out posters with Trump being depicted as Superman. One man was attempting to sell Trump face masks, screaming to the crowd, "keep your germs to yourself!"

White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany claimed on Twitter that the crowd size was "more than one million marchers," and Trump said on Twitter that "hundreds of thousands of people" turned out. But reporters on the scene estimated that there were tens of thousands of people at the rally.

"We will WIN!" Trump said in a series of tweets Saturday afternoon.

Trump indicated Friday that he may stop by the rally, but he left the White House early Saturday to go golfing. As the presidential motorcade headed out to Pennsylvania Avenue and did a circuit of Freedom Plaza, hundreds of Trump supporters lining both sides of the streets applauded, cheered, waved and whistled.

'Abuse of the rule of law':1,000 ex-judges, attorneys slam Trump's false claims of voter fraud

Earlier this week D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser and the Metropolitan Police Department said they were monitoring the events but would not provide a crowd estimate. Police released an advisory noting some roads will be closed and parking will be restricted throughout downtown D.C. and reminding the public that they are prohibited from carrying a firearm within 1,000 feet of any protest, including those who have a concealed carry permit.

Meanwhile, 500 Trump supporters — nearly all maskless — converged in Delray Beach, Florida, on Saturday to insist the election was stolen and to encourage Trump to stay in power, no matter the results. The event was highlighted by a march and speech by provocateur Roger Stone — who was pardoned by Trump.

A week ago Saturday, after states spent days counting ballots, several news outlets projected Biden to be the winner of the 2020 presidential election. USA TODAY has not found any evidence of widespread voter fraud. See more below:

Wisconsin:Republicans seek issues they can raise in a recount, but no major problems have surfaced
Fact check:Dominion voting machines didn't delete votes from Trump, switch them to Biden
Fact check:Partly false claim about discarded ballots in Pennsylvania amplified by Eric Trump
Fact check:No evidence that 14,000 dead people cast ballots in Wayne County, Michigan
Fact check:Arizona election departments confirm Sharpies can be used on ballots
Fact check:False claim that viral video shows Trump ballots being burned


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/11/14/trump-rally-washington-dc-million-maga-march-updates/6283411002/

[epic is back]

Leave the board

Or I’ve heard antifa will visit you

[Body-Buildah]

From another forum:


The 12th Amendment is key here. Let's say an Election happens and the President doesn't like the result. He has the right to challenge a result for any reason and ask for a recount, though he has to pay for it unless it is I wanna say under 1%. Then the Govt, or the State has to foot the bill. So for instance in MI, I think Trump had to sign over $3 million cash just for the recount. Which is why you see his team fundraising.

If those recounts occur, and the President feels that those Recounts were fraudulent, or maybe they didn't do a good job, or maybe they missed something, whether intentionally or not intentionally. He now has the legal Authority to appeal to the Supreme Court. Notice RBG just died, and they fought and fought Kavanaugh and ACB. Precisely bc the Dems knew they planned to cheat this election, with mail in ballots and software.

But I digress.

So now lets say the Supreme Court (who btw will likely side with Trump 5-4) in any event, but lets say they don't agree or see any irregularities or voter fraud.

Trump now has the Authority to exercise Amendment 12 (please read it in full as there are various ins and outs, I have explained before and I'm not going to do it again)

But essentially Trump has the right to bring this to The House of Representatives. Now I know what Trump supporters are thinking, even my friends, "Oh no they have the majority of the 475 members of the House Of Representatives. (which the majority right now is Democrat) This is where understanding of Constitutional Law is important and HIGHLY lacked on this forum and all forums. And I say that with all due respect bc if you guys asked me to understand what you went to school for, your degree, your trade. I wouldn't know shit. But I would say that.

Here is the kicker. The 12th Amendment when giving the Authority to the House of Representatives does not give the vote to the "House of Representatives" it actually gives the Authority of judgement to each State, not each "member" Each State has one vote per the Constitution.

Currently there are 50 states. That means there are 50 votes. Of the 50 there are 37 states who are Republican. Who do you think that 37 R's are going to vote for?

And guess what. They keep saying that in a "tie" in these Georgia Run offs on January 5th (for Senate). In the event of a tie, the VICE PRESIDENT can cast the winning vote for a side.

Now recall above I showed you a letter that Congress sent to the Biden team, telling them that he is NOT the official President Elect and Kamalatoe is not the officlal VP Elect. So the Vice President, until the President Elect actually happens is Mike Pence. So if Trump does not concede, or this is not legally resolved on or before January 5th, then the Dems have zero chance of taking the Senate. Though the Media and the Dems want you to think otherwise.

Watch the news. You will see the Dems and the Media pushing Trump to concede. Begging him to concede. If he concedes, he then deprives himself of the 12th Amendment details I informed you guys of above.

Now I hate to rain on the Parade of the Democrats. Actually i do enjoy it. In devastating Fashion, you are now seeing that Trump will win the Election in one way or another

Your premature celebratory actions cant be fixed with Dapoxetine.

But your tears will be drank by the Trump supporters on the forum as we have the last laugh.

Then you will see various Govt officials, elections officials and individuals arrested and convicted for Voter Fraud.

I really wanted to keep this surprise until the end but it's all just so entertaining to spill the beans early....

[epic is back]

Finally someone shared logical info

Thank you for that

[Griffith]

 

[AsianExpat]

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[pellius]

Hilary gave her concession speech on November 9, 2016 which was the day after the election and not when the election was certified on December 13, 2016.

There was no real evidence of fraud in that election as there is in this one. It was clear Hillary lost and it would have reflected poorly on her if she didn't concede. They are still investigating this election and there is good reason that this whole process with all the mail-in voting just stinks to high heaven. And when they are done then Trump will give his speech.

There are some other similarities between the 2016 election and the 2020 election.  The preliminary Electoral College vote count was 306 votes for Trump and 232 votes for Clinton, with challenges expected in three states: Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

I am not really concerned about how I come across to others folks on Getbig. As best as I know that is the only concession speech Hilary made. Cherry picking implies I picked this speech from others. There is nothing closed minded about stating facts. If you can find where Hilary's concession speech is different from what I posted, feel free to post it. The point is she said exactly what she was supposed to say, just as most losing candidates have done up until now. Who cares whether she meant what she said. She said what was expected.

I know you don't care what others think. That is a reflection of your self-absorption and narcissism and exaggerated high opinion you have of yourself. Yes, you are correct, cherry-picking implies that you pick this speech in particular. But here is where you are simply intellectually dishonest. You argue this is her only concession speech so how could you be cherry-picking it. But you know that is not what was meant. It was not cherry-picking a "speech" as such, that would be silly, but rather the content of the speech the views expressed in that speech. She expressed one viewpoint in that concession speech but for the next four years, she always claimed that Trump was an illegitimate president. And nobody claimed that stating facts is close-minded. Being closed-minded is how you twist the facts to conform to your single, close-minded agenda. Out of the countless times, Hillary has protested the 2016 elections, the attacks on Trump, the spying and orchestrating a coup, and constantly referring to him as an illegitimate president you "cherry-pick" the one time when she tried to be gracious as the world was watching and her defeat was obvious. Then try to justify this deceit by shrugging your shoulders and saying, "She did say it. It was her only concession speech. These are the facts." As I always say, context is everything.

Why not bring up the popular vote? It is a part of our process of electing the President. There is nothing hypocritical in my doing this. There are ongoing discussions as to whether the Electoral College is still viable which go back as far as I can remember. Personally, I think it is still doing what it was intended to do.

We do not elect the president by popular vote. It's just an interesting statistic like saying more men than women vote for this president. Or those with an IQ higher than 120 voted for X. None of this has anything to do with how we elect presidents. You are a hypocrite because if Biden did not have the majority vote but still won the electoral college this wouldn't be an issue.

In what regard do I have a high opinion of myself? Oblivious to how others see and react to what? What I post on Getbig? You'd be surprised at how fair-minded I am. My resume includes over 30 years as a mediator, employee advocate and political activist for which I have won many awards and certificates.

I've already explained why I think you have an exaggerated opinion of your self-worth. It is difficult to explain to someone why they are oblivious because of the very fact they are oblivious. Some of the things you have said over the years have just disgusted so many here and why you are so unpopular with the majority of people here. You are generally viewed as this creepy old man and this consensus just didn't come out of thin air. I know, and I believe, you don't care but that is part of your narcissism. We would all be "surprised" at just how "fair" you are and I would assume there are other countless positive adjectives you could add to that description if we "really" knew you and not what you have presented here for so many years we would be surprised. We'd be surprised at just what an exceptional person you are or rather you think you are. And then you have the audacity, again clueless to the impression you leave others with, to list your resume. After all this time at GetBig you are still so clueless and self-absorbed to know that nobody gives a royal husky fck what people brag about themselves.

You are welcome to disagree with the views I express in posts and you often do. That's fine. It isn't going to ruin my day.

Just curious, but why do you think only 57.5% of the registered voters in Hawaii voted in the 2020 election? It was the 4th lowest turnout in the nation. Would you say Hawaiians feel disenfranchised or were they just disinterested in this election? Hawaii leans heavily towards the Democratic Party and has supported Democrats in every presidential election in which it has participated, except 1972 and 1984.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1184621/presidential-election-voter-turnout-rate-state/

Hawaii being the last State to close its polls usually find that the election has already been determined by the time they have even closed its polls let alone start counting it's votes. We generally feel with are 4 electoral votes that we really don't have much impact on national elections. People vote more as a symbolic and patriotic duty. Generally speaking, people in Hawaii are not politically involved and savvy. Perfect fodder for liberals. And we are completely ruled by liberal democrats. Just about a week before the election, I overheard these two men, mid to late sixties, taking about the election. One guy says that for sure Trump will beat that other guy ("What was his name?" he askes) because he saw more Trump supporters with signs waving. "Trump, dat guy, always causing hum-bug." That was pretty much the extent of their discourse.

[Thin Lizzy]

Finally someone shared logical info

Thank you for that

Interesting🤔

[MAXX]

[SOMEPARTS]

Sidney...... about to "Release the Kraken"