Trump - Is he going to concede or stay in power by force?

[TheGrinch]

Sidney...... about to "Release the Kraken" 

nobody's releasing shit, nobody's doing shit even with 100% proof of anything illegal. This is the way the US works and they are allowed to get away with anything every single time without fail.

I'll file this and every other thing with hunter's laptop that nobody cares about

[TheGrinch]

From another forum:


The 12th Amendment is key here. Let's say an Election happens and the President doesn't like the result. He has the right to challenge a result for any reason and ask for a recount, though he has to pay for it unless it is I wanna say under 1%. Then the Govt, or the State has to foot the bill. So for instance in MI, I think Trump had to sign over $3 million cash just for the recount. Which is why you see his team fundraising.

If those recounts occur, and the President feels that those Recounts were fraudulent, or maybe they didn't do a good job, or maybe they missed something, whether intentionally or not intentionally. He now has the legal Authority to appeal to the Supreme Court. Notice RBG just died, and they fought and fought Kavanaugh and ACB. Precisely bc the Dems knew they planned to cheat this election, with mail in ballots and software.

But I digress.

So now lets say the Supreme Court (who btw will likely side with Trump 5-4) in any event, but lets say they don't agree or see any irregularities or voter fraud.

Trump now has the Authority to exercise Amendment 12 (please read it in full as there are various ins and outs, I have explained before and I'm not going to do it again)

But essentially Trump has the right to bring this to The House of Representatives. Now I know what Trump supporters are thinking, even my friends, "Oh no they have the majority of the 475 members of the House Of Representatives. (which the majority right now is Democrat) This is where understanding of Constitutional Law is important and HIGHLY lacked on this forum and all forums. And I say that with all due respect bc if you guys asked me to understand what you went to school for, your degree, your trade. I wouldn't know shit. But I would say that.

Here is the kicker. The 12th Amendment when giving the Authority to the House of Representatives does not give the vote to the "House of Representatives" it actually gives the Authority of judgement to each State, not each "member" Each State has one vote per the Constitution.

Currently there are 50 states. That means there are 50 votes. Of the 50 there are 37 states who are Republican. Who do you think that 37 R's are going to vote for?

And guess what. They keep saying that in a "tie" in these Georgia Run offs on January 5th (for Senate). In the event of a tie, the VICE PRESIDENT can cast the winning vote for a side.

Now recall above I showed you a letter that Congress sent to the Biden team, telling them that he is NOT the official President Elect and Kamalatoe is not the officlal VP Elect. So the Vice President, until the President Elect actually happens is Mike Pence. So if Trump does not concede, or this is not legally resolved on or before January 5th, then the Dems have zero chance of taking the Senate. Though the Media and the Dems want you to think otherwise.

Watch the news. You will see the Dems and the Media pushing Trump to concede. Begging him to concede. If he concedes, he then deprives himself of the 12th Amendment details I informed you guys of above.

Now I hate to rain on the Parade of the Democrats. Actually i do enjoy it. In devastating Fashion, you are now seeing that Trump will win the Election in one way or another

Your premature celebratory actions cant be fixed with Dapoxetine.

But your tears will be drank by the Trump supporters on the forum as we have the last laugh.

Then you will see various Govt officials, elections officials and individuals arrested and convicted for Voter Fraud.

I really wanted to keep this surprise until the end but it's all just so entertaining to spill the beans early....

"Trump now has the Authority to exercise Amendment 12"


Amendment 12 only details how the new POTUS is chosen if and only if there is a contested election according to the electoral college.

The current sitting potus has nothing to do with it and can't exercise shit...

[LurkerNoMore]

But your tears will be drank by the Trump supporters on the forum as we have the last laugh.

Oh there are going to be tears alright... even more later on from the Trumptuards when Biden moves into the WH than now. 

Bookmarking this thread so I can come back and laugh and gloat later on.

[Van_Bilderass]

My prediction is that he will concede shortly. He is being told, and I think it's true, that the Democrats actually want him to resist so they can utterly humiliate him, preferably by removing by force in chains before the TV cameras. They don't just want him out, they want revenge and maximum humiliation. If they had their way they would want a Mussolini type situation, after all Trump is literally Hitler.

So I think Trump will go quietly, then he will be shut out of Facebook and Twitter and people will laugh and mock and Trump can't respond. "They are private companies, they can do whatever they want". Trump should've fought tech censorship when he had the chance.

[Humble Narcissist]

My prediction is that he will concede shortly. He is being told, and I think it's true, that the Democrats actually want him to resist so they can utterly humiliate him, preferably by removing by force in chains before the TV cameras. They don't just want him out, they want revenge and maximum humiliation. If they had their way they would want a Mussolini type situation, after all Trump is literally Hitler.

So I think Trump will go quietly, then he will be shut out of Facebook and Twitter and people will laugh and mock and Trump can't respond. "They are private companies, they can do whatever they want". Trump should've fought tech censorship when he had the chance.

They can't remove him until Jan 18th.  He has every right to be there now.

[loco]

Pro-Trump gathering in DC on Saturday.  No looting and no destruction of property.

[MAXX]

[Primemuscle]

Hawaii being the last State to close its polls usually find that the election has already been determined by the time they have even closed its polls let alone start counting it's votes. We generally feel with are 4 electoral votes that we really don't have much impact on national elections. People vote more as a symbolic and patriotic duty. Generally speaking, people in Hawaii are not politically involved and savvy. Perfect fodder for liberals. And we are completely ruled by liberal democrats. Just about a week before the election, I overheard these two men, mid to late sixties, taking about the election. One guy says that for sure Trump will beat that other guy ("What was his name?" he askes) because he saw more Trump supporters with signs waving. "Trump, dat guy, always causing hum-bug." That was pretty much the extent of their discourse.

Your explanation makes good sense.

In another post I commented on how the U.S. Presidential election might be changed or improved. One thing I mentioned was not releasing any results (vote count) until all the polls were closed. To better facilitate that, setting time of closure according to time zones. One example is for them to close at 5:00 pm in Hawaii and 11:00 pm in the eastern time zone. If we did that, folks in Hawaii might have more reason to vote. This way everyone get the results after all the polls closed. Under the current setup, the vote in time zones which close first possibly influences the vote in states that close last.

[Primemuscle]

My prediction is that he will concede shortly. He is being told, and I think it's true, that the Democrats actually want him to resist so they can utterly humiliate him, preferably by removing by force in chains before the TV cameras. They don't just want him out, they want revenge and maximum humiliation. If they had their way they would want a Mussolini type situation, after all Trump is literally Hitler.

So I think Trump will go quietly, then he will be shut out of Facebook and Twitter and people will laugh and mock and Trump can't respond. "They are private companies, they can do whatever they want". Trump should've fought tech censorship when he had the chance.

I think hauling Trump out of the White House in chains is a bit drastic. I'm a Democrat and it is not what I'd want to happen. It is my hope that he concedes once it is clear that his challenges of the vote are not going anywhere. This way he'd keep a little bit of dignity while believing he fought a good fight. On the other hand, Trump has implied that he is never wrong. Any concession is to him like admitting he was wrong.   

[LurkerNoMore]

Pro-Trump gathering in DC on Saturday.  No looting and no destruction of property.

No where near a million people.  LOL

Trumpy could have come out and gave a rousing (lie filled, delusional fueled) speech that all the little Trumpturds would have eaten up.... but instead he went to play golf.  Cause he doesn't care about you.

[Dave D]

No where near a million people.  LOL

Trumpy could have come out and gave a rousing (lie filled, delusional fueled) speech that all the little Trumpturds would have eaten up.... but instead he went to play golf.  Cause he doesn't care about you.

Lol like anyone thinks Trump, or any politician/celebrity, cares about them.

What a weird thing to say.

[Coach is Back!]

Sidney...... about to "Release the Kraken" 

I’m glad you posted this. Regardless if Biden gets in or NOT lots of people going to prison. These literal Traitors (traitors not by Strawmans definition because he’s mentally inept like most liberals) will be heading for prison and hopefully the death penalty

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

"Trump now has the Authority to exercise Amendment 12"


Amendment 12 only details how the new POTUS is chosen if and only if there is a contested election according to the electoral college.

The current sitting potus has nothing to do with it and can't exercise shit...

If he was able to do that then that will be the end of the GOP.   Even most diehard Republicans would balk at the level of backlash that would follow.   BTW, the Supreme Court justices wouldn't do it anyway.   

[LurkerNoMore]

I’m glad you posted this. Regardless if Biden gets in or NOT lots of people going to prison. These literal Traitors (traitors not by Strawmans definition because he’s mentally inept like most liberals) will be heading for prison and hopefully the death penalty

The last time we saw people of any Administration going to jail, it was Trump's.

So far you've done nothing but whine and promise the opposite and it hasn't come true yet.

[SOMEPARTS]

The last time we saw people of any Administration going to jail, it was Trump's.

Yes, yet you miss the irony in that statement.

The people with offshore accounts selling out the country to China, profiting from our uranium, blackmailing millions from Ukraine, keeping millions that were to go to relief in Haiti, destroying evidence, doxxing any opposition, limiting free speech, stealing elections, spying on opposition candidates(and still losing!) and making false claims of impeachment will do no time.

Let's also not forget Mr. Epstein and ol' Sniffin' Joe...and Hunter....all peas in a pod.

You choose that side. That's on you.

[SOMEPARTS]

I’m glad you posted this. Regardless if Biden gets in or NOT lots of people going to prison. These literal Traitors (traitors not by Strawmans definition because he’s mentally inept like most liberals) will be heading for prison and hopefully the death penalty

    “We’re getting ready to overturn election results in multiple states,” Powell said, saying that she has enough evidence of election fraud to launch a widespread criminal investigation.

    “I don’t make comments without having the evidence to back it up,” she added, saying that elections software switched “millions of votes” from Trump to Democratic nominee Joe Biden.



    “We have so much evidence, I feel like it’s coming in through a fire hose,” Powell said, while noting that she won’t reveal the evidence that she has.

    “They can stick a thumb drive in the [voting] machine, they can upload software to it even from the Internet … from Germany or Venezuela even,” she said, adding that operations “can watch votes in real-time” and “can shift votes in real-time,” or alleged bad actors can “remote access anything.”

    “We’ve identified mathematically the exact algorithm they’ve used—and planned to use from the beginning” that allegedly switched votes to Biden, Powell remarked.



https://www.theepochtimes.com/trump-lawyer-sidney-powell-were-getting-ready-to-overturn-election-results-in-multiple-states_3579599.html

[pellius]

Your explanation makes good sense.

In another post I commented on how the U.S. Presidential election might be changed or improved. One thing I mentioned was not releasing any results (vote count) until all the polls were closed. To better facilitate that, setting time of closure according to time zones. One example is for them to close at 5:00 pm in Hawaii and 11:00 pm in the eastern time zone. If we did that, folks in Hawaii might have more reason to vote. This way everyone get the results after all the polls closed. Under the current setup, the vote in time zones which close first possibly influences the vote in states that close last.

Yes, that is also an idea that I have considered. Also, I wonder if we should reconsider the winner take all electoral votes. For example, California has 55 electoral votes based on the two senators and 53 congressional districts. But not all of those districts are Democrats so why should they get all the electoral votes? What if we counted the votes of each congressional district? That way we would get a more even representation of the political makeup of the state? Cali would still be majority Democrat but there are a lot of districts that are pretty conservatives. So instead of all 55 votes going to a Democrate it would be something like 40 to Dems and 15 to Republicans

[Tapeworm]

Both sides predictably digging their heels in. Starting to smell like brinksmanship.

Tape no like. Bad medicine.

[loco]

No where near a million people.  LOL

Trumpy could have come out and gave a rousing (lie filled, delusional fueled) speech that all the little Trumpturds would have eaten up.... but instead he went to play golf.  Cause he doesn't care about you.

Thank you very much for bringing that to my attention.  You are so fortunate that Joe and Kamala care about you so much.

[Humble Narcissist]

Thank you very much for bringing that to my attention.  You are so fortunate that Joe and Kamala care about you so much.

[Grape Ape]

Both sides predictably digging their heels in. Starting to smell like brinksmanship.

Tape no like. Bad medicine.

Worst case scenario is that half the country feels the other stole it, no matter who wins/won.

[Thin Lizzy]

Both sides predictably digging their heels in. Starting to smell like brinksmanship.

Tape no like. Bad medicine.

As we all know, anyone can say anything on the Internet. I like to look for things that are real.

This tells me the game ain’t over:


Gambling Sites Delay Payouts In Case Trump Retains Power

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-12/u-s-presidential-election-bets-millions-tied-up-on-delayed-outcome

[LurkerNoMore]

Yes, yet you miss the irony in that statement.

The people with offshore accounts selling out the country to China, profiting from our uranium, blackmailing millions from Ukraine, keeping millions that were to go to relief in Haiti, destroying evidence, doxxing any opposition, limiting free speech, stealing elections, spying on opposition candidates(and still losing!) and making false claims of impeachment will do no time.

Let's also not forget Mr. Epstein and ol' Sniffin' Joe...and Hunter....all peas in a pod.

You choose that side. That's on you.

 

Lot's of opinion and fluff up there. 

[SOMEPARTS]

Lot's of opinion and fluff up there.

Really now...

Unless you've been (willfully) hiding under a rock the last 4 or 5 years nearly all are common knowledge and best yet most of the evidence is on record or by self-admission.

Imagine being okay with Adam Schiff and Nadler basement tactics. Imagine knowing Diane Feinstein had a Chinese spy for a driver for 20 years. The amount of overlooking would become a full time job...those are your peeps and they aren't even the radicals in the party.

[pamith]

Trump will win