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Facebook and Twitter vs Parlor and Alternatives
« on: November 09, 2020, 03:57:27 AM »
https://www.newsbreak.com/news/2098575921513/dan-bonginos-conservative-parler-app-passes-tiktok-and-you-tube-to-take-1-spot

Dan Bongino’s Conservative Parler App Passes TikTok And You Tube to Take #1 Spot

It’s no secret. Facebook and Twitter have been relentlessly attacking conservative media outlets, Republicans, and Trump supporters for quite some time, but this week, they took their actions to a whole new level. The two tech giants have squelched the President; censored major conservative-leaning media outlets and personalities; and essentially declared an information war against anyone who disagrees with their political views.



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Re: Parler
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2020, 04:41:48 AM »
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Re: Parler
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2020, 05:18:43 AM »
Parler is growing so fast that that the site can't handle the volume.  I found that it's not user friendly but I will keep at it till I figure it out. Also people don't use their real names like Facebook so it's hard to find friends and family.  I have never been in Facebook jail but recently gotten threatened with banning for supporting the Republican party.  They said if I question the election I'm using hate speech.  This is what I wrote that got Facebook after me, "The loser in this election is the American people." After I posted that they removed it and said I violated community standards 20 times in the past. I never got notified of 20 violations in the past. Facebook censors, bans and uses Democrat complicit spin fact checkers and declares their opinions are facts. Facebook uses propaganda to try to sway the masses.  I also suspect they remove comments under the banner of not relevant. 

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Re: Parler
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2020, 07:15:30 AM »
Why are people ashamed to use real names? Anonymity is the real danger in social media as people can incite violence without anyone knowing who they are. At least, with Facebook you can see who it is, like the police chief in Arkansas (fired) for inciting violence against Democrats.

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Re: Parler
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2020, 07:18:36 AM »
Why are people ashamed to use real names? Anonymity is the real danger in social media as people can incite violence without anyone knowing who they are. At least, with Facebook you can see who it is, like the police chief in Arkansas (fired) for inciting violence against Democrats.

This coming from a guy that has 20 gimmick accounts.


Coach this guy might be JAGO (and the same person who posted on your Instagram)

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Re: Parler
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2020, 08:19:31 AM »
Here is their logo and link.

The more non-leftist media alternatives the better.

Keep using Facebook and Youtube only to subvert and drive traffic to other platforms.

Plus, use "coded" terms to the people you're trying to reach on FB/YT so FB/YT don't flag and ban. Use YT/FB only to undermine and destroy them and profit off their resources.

Otherwise use Bitchute, Gab, Parler. Any other good ones?


https://parler.com/auth/access



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Re: Parler
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2020, 11:40:58 AM »
Does Facebook have the right to determine who gets to post and what can be posted?

Does the First Amendment apply to Facebook?

Why be a member of Facebook if they don't allow you to speak your opinion?

I've never signed up to Facebook.

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Re: Parler
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2020, 11:46:28 AM »
Facebook is just like B grade SiFi !.

Boy's on the >>>> should ignore Face & Twit !.

<<<< suckers already start internal civil war  ;D, last night in Portland Antifa smashed Biden/Harris office  ;D

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Re: Parler
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2020, 12:03:37 PM »
Does Facebook have the right to determine who gets to post and what can be posted?
Yes, they do and the ADL has great influence over Facebook.
Does the First Amendment apply to Facebook?
No. They are a utility, like a phone service, yet they have the capacity to do the equivalent of censoring your phone calls or banning your phone usage if they don't like what you say.
Why be a member of Facebook if they don't allow you to speak your opinion?
Because you can still reach a lot of people as long as you're careful of your word usage so as to not technically go against their terms of service, which are selectively enforced anyway. You can widely promote things or ideas for free on FB.
I've never signed up to Facebook.
That's a lot smarter than posting personal info, telling the world who all your friends and family are, what you and your friends and family look like and where you live, work, shop and are at any given time, as that info is also collected by the government and put in a database.

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Re: Parler
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2020, 02:48:34 PM »
So there are two real questions:
1. Should social media be allowed to police and censor at all? For example, should they be able to block a police chief from inciting violence toward “Democrats” (which it souls like Parler did not do in this case) or should Facebook censor Antifa members for inciting violence against police officers (not sure, but I bet some of this has occurred).
2. If we agree that they should censor at some level, how do we ensure that they do this fairly? Especially conservatives complain that this is being done unfairly and, given the fact that the employees of these social media companies tend to have liberal views, it stands to reason that there may be merit to to what the conservatives are saying.

Bottom line: these are private companies, but should the government insist on impartiality and police them? Do we trust the government to police them or should we just let them do their censoring and their algorithms however they want?

Hard questions. It seems that is is the people furthest to the left (AOC) and furthest to the right (conservatives who have been blocked) who most favor reining in the social media giants. But the irony is that these are the very same people who trust our government the LEAST.

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Re: Parler
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2020, 03:39:12 PM »
 The free market can probably take care of it but the problem that is the left wars against any competition. I've posted this a billion times but the left takes down your bank account if they disagree with you, your software usage, web hosting, fundraising.... It's way beyond social media.

Look at the trick that was just pulled on Parler. Did anyone catch it? "Media reports right-winger does bad on right-wing Parler." They did the same thing to Gab as well.

Never mind the animals abuse, death threats and much more that have been going on for years at left-wing Facebook. Brand new Parler is "hate", so says the left-wing media. Case closed. Everything should be done now to shut down Parler because it's "hate", a propaganda corporation posing as news says it is. They always deflect and scapegoat others for what they do themselves.

There were 433 reports of Facebook death threats in 2019

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/police-see-surge-facebook-death-21926309


Have we seen 433 or more posts here about that or 433 separate news reports about left-wing Facebook's death threats? No, Parler bad.

The problem with social media is they have become the arbiters of what is and is not hate. For some reason one small group dictates to the world what is and is not hate and they're always above criticism. In fact, if you criticize the arbiters of hate, YOU are hate.

The government seemed to police a business having to bake a birthday cake for a gay couple a few years ago. For social media, the issue is that they should NOT be policing what is hate or not hate, what is true or not true. The media went on about Russiagate for 4 years but seemed to opt out of policing what was true or not true, hate or not hate when it came to themselves on that matter. Or better yet, they DID police themselves and they found out that they do no wrong, ever. Left-wing social media does the same.

Really, the 2 big issues are censoring "hate" and censoring "untruth". The problem is that a monopoly which is basically a utility shouldn't be deciding for countries or the world what is hate or not or true or not because they'll ALWAYS "know" what's true and what is hate, magically.   

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Re: Parler
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2020, 04:48:41 PM »
Just an FYI, Parler is for everyone liberal and conservative. My guess there isn’t too many liberals because they don’t want to engage in civil debate for fear of looking like asses

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Re: Parler vs. Facebook
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2020, 06:16:23 PM »


Parler in the last week cannot handle the sheer volume right now on how many people are going to the platform. 

When Facebook started, it was a place so you can discuss opinions, pictures and more with your friends.  Now, Facebook, if they don't like whatever you say, they proclaim fake news, block you, and give you 'facts'. We are grown people, we can discuss it ourselves whether it is true or not. 

Hence comes Parler, where for now, they won't censor you if you post something. 


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Re: Parler vs. Facebook
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2020, 06:24:42 PM »

Parler in the last week cannot handle the sheer volume right now on how many people are going to the platform. 

When Facebook started, it was a place so you can discuss opinions, pictures and more with your friends.  Now, Facebook, if they don't like whatever you say, they proclaim fake news, block you, and give you 'facts'. We are grown people, we can discuss it ourselves whether it is true or not. 

Hence comes Parler, where for now, they won't censor you if you post something.

I repeatedly tried to create a parler account today and got stuck in a captcha loop.  Overwhelmed, indeed!

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Re: Parler
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2020, 06:41:44 PM »
Why are people ashamed to use real names? Anonymity is the real danger in social media as people can incite violence without anyone knowing who they are. At least, with Facebook you can see who it is, like the police chief in Arkansas (fired) for inciting violence against Democrats.

Because they are scared someone will find them and punch them in the mouth for their bullshit.

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Re: Parler
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2020, 06:52:32 PM »
Have the right left twitter for the same reasons?

They’re leaving because of conservative censorship from fake “fact checkers”

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Re: Parler vs. Facebook
« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2020, 07:04:58 PM »
Germany had cancel culture in the late 30s.

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Re: Parler vs. Facebook
« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2020, 07:50:45 PM »
I haven't looked into Parler but from what I've seen all platforms eventually start with censorship. Lots of people profess to be for freedom of speech but it's a bunch of baloney, they just cry when it's their views that are banned but would censor others at first opportunity. I follow certain thought criminals on the net and many have been banned all over and these individuals aren't even that radical. Certain guys I followed on IG and FB were banned suddenly over nothing and others recommended they go the the Russian VK as that's where other "right leaning" individuals gather. They were banned within 24 hours, probably before they even made a single post. And these dudes are pretty much apolitical to begin with.

Not that I don't agree with FB and Twitter being absolutely pathetic.

Getbig might be one of the freest places on the net but the reach is tiny. If it grew a bit the screws would be put on Ron and guys like Matt would be the first to be gone  :D

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Re: Parler vs. Facebook
« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2020, 07:54:05 PM »

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Re: Parler vs. Facebook
« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2020, 07:57:45 PM »


I didn't watch but anyone claiming to be unbiased and for free speech is full of shit. "Nazis" always get banned.

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Re: Parler vs. Facebook
« Reply #20 on: November 09, 2020, 09:01:09 PM »
I don't know why the left is the only one that censors. I wouldn't call for censorship if the Bolsheviks made posts reveling in their murders, posted victory photos of the Holomodor, poked fun at the starvation victims, the gulag slaves, posted silly pictures of their heroes in Soviet Union, reminisced and mocked all the tens of millions of Christians they killed, snickered at the 2 million German women raped after WWII. How can it be any worse than what they're having done by proxy in Europe these days and will continue to do to an ever escalating degree of horror unless there is intervention by informed people who are not censored out of having any clue what they are currently doing and scheming further to do Europeans right now..

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Re: Parler vs. Facebook
« Reply #21 on: November 09, 2020, 09:20:15 PM »
I didn't watch but anyone claiming to be unbiased and for free speech is full of shit. "Nazis" always get banned.

In short, there are no moderators. There are tools to do your own moderating

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Re: Parler vs. Facebook
« Reply #22 on: November 09, 2020, 10:19:15 PM »
an ever escalating degree of horror

^ this guy gets it

any light thats left in the world, will be extinguished... reality will become misery across the board.... misery that intensifies with time.

morality and wisdom will be replaced with truly evil black hearts... sinister desires... which will play out in the most horrific, terrifying ways.

there will be no freedom, safety or choice for most... only survival; no peace, no rest... life will consist of constant fear, anguish, and death.

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Re: Parler vs. Facebook
« Reply #23 on: November 10, 2020, 03:07:55 AM »
I will check out Parler and Gab.  Already on Bitchute.

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Re: Parler vs. Facebook
« Reply #24 on: November 10, 2020, 03:36:04 AM »
Pretty sad/pathetic state of the world when battle of the Polititard Apps is taking place.  ::)