COVID Vaccine 90 Percent Effective

[illuminati]

Time to end the COVID nonsense. Would’ve gone on forever if Trump re-elected.

Market roaring too.

DEATH 100% Effective. 👍🏻

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[LurkerNoMore]

Just saw news report about Biden which causes me great concern!!!  He has reportedly decided to name medical professionals, specialists in  disease and other qualified individuals to be on the Corona Task Force!!!  My God what next???  A Secretary of Education who supports public education!!!  I am very concerned about putting people in charge with experience and knowledge!!!

[Flexacon]

Time is also extremely important Flexacon. If the average vaccine takes 10-15 years to develop, how can we trust something that has taken less than 8 months to produce? I remember reading throughout the years about the atrocities that Bill Gates and his team of vaccine experts put India through and the amount of people it killed. Those vaccines had a lot more than a simple year of development going for them and they still wreaked havoc.

New mechanism of action aside, which in itself can lead to all sorts of crazy mutations at the cellular level, I think it's a terrible idea and can possibly bring about mass genocides.

I also believe it is incredibly unfair to subjects healthcare workers to the vaccine. Contrary to popular beliefs suggesting that vaccinating them will allow them to stay healthy given a second surge, we know very well that covid-19 was not as aggressive as people thought it would be. The deeper and more sinister side of me sometimes wonders whether this might be an attempt at further crippling our health care workforce in order to really find ourselves in a massive problem down the line. That's more conspiracy-lined thoughts at play, but given all the craziness 2020 has brought, NOTHING would surprise me.

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Going through the process faster doesn't mean they're cutting corners. It's more that they've reprioritised work to focus on the vaccine, and introduced efficiencies to remove bureaucracy. There are still the same regulatory requirements to be met. There's an example of the type of stuff they're doing to fast track vaccine research here https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02416-z- the same sort of thing is being done around the world. It doesn't necessarily introduce more risk.

Obviously it's not ideal, but the rapid pace of development of this particular vaccine isn't my main concern.

[Van_Bilderass]

Okay well what I heard it was almost exclusively 70+ agegroup that died, and that agegroup drops dead all the time even from a regular flu. But if that is your experience it sounds serious I guess.

I would like to see more statistics of age groups that died and their underlaying health status.

No, I think it's true that it's almost exclusively the elderly that die. However, there are a few younger people that die as well. My close friend's friend was just 39. So though it's statistically pretty rare you don't want to be one of the unlucky ones. Is it worse than the "regular flu"? I certainly never heard of anyone dying from the flu before this but I guess it's possible that it comes down to pure chance - pure chance I never had a flu death occur in my circle of acquaintances.

[robcguns]

If you feel comfortable about accepting a vaccine that will have taken less than a year to develop, then so be it.

I will NOT allow anyone to vaccinate me with something that could potentially kill me. Most vaccines take years (on average 10-15 years to develop) and we're going to trust the likes of Bill Gates (Who just barely eradicated all of Indian with his vaccine trials) to sell us on this unknown product.

Fuck that asshole and all those like him.

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Exactly

[MAXX]

No, I think it's true that it's almost exclusively the elderly that die. However, there are a few younger people that die as well. My close friend's friend was just 39. So though it's statistically pretty rare you don't want to be one of the unlucky ones. Is it worse than the "regular flu"? I certainly never heard of anyone dying from the flu before this but I guess it's possible that it comes down to pure chance - pure chance I never had a flu death occur in my circle of acquaintances.

Then he was very unlucky because in Sweden only 42 males under age 50 have died from Covid-19. And out of all deaths those under 50 only accounts for 1.3% out of all deaths. (I just looked this up you can dl the sheet here  ->  https://www.socialstyrelsen.se/statistik-och-data/statistik/statistik-om-covid-19/statistik-over-antal-avlidna-i-covid-19/  )

Was he a bodybuilder?

[Van_Bilderass]

Was he a bodybuilder?

Not a bodybuilder. Was overweight which is a risk factor but no other outright preexisting diseases from what I heard.

[tommywishbone]

If you feel comfortable about accepting a vaccine that will have taken less than a year to develop, then so be it.

I will NOT allow anyone to vaccinate me with something that could potentially kill me. Most vaccines take years (on average 10-15 years to develop) and we're going to trust the likes of Bill Gates (Who just barely eradicated all of Indian with his vaccine trials) to sell us on this unknown product.

Fuck that asshole and all those like him.

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Bingo.

[Moontrane]

No, I think it's true that it's almost exclusively the elderly that die. However, there are a few younger people that die as well. My close friend's friend was just 39. So though it's statistically pretty rare you don't want to be one of the unlucky ones. Is it worse than the "regular flu"? I certainly never heard of anyone dying from the flu before this but I guess it's possible that it comes down to pure chance - pure chance I never had a flu death occur in my circle of acquaintances.

Wide variances year to year, but there are about 30,000 annual flu deaths in the U.S.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html#:~:text=While%20the%20impact%20of%20flu,61%2C000%20deaths%20annually%20since%202010.

[Moontrane]

I know two people who died from it, one was my aunt at 60 years old. Heard of a few cases of friends of friends who ended on ventilators for up to 2 months with long rehabs, still ongoing, for example my gf's coworkers husband, age 50 and with no underlying illnesses.
Spoke to a nurse last week who worked with Covid patients a few months ago who is taking all sorts of precautions to avoid catching it. Young woman but still pretty "paranoid" over it.

I almost died from swine flu 2 years ago and it was very similar to Covid, lungs affected, ventilator for several weeks and a 6 month rehab until I was as before. But I don't give a shit about Covid, I live my life just as before even though catching Covid might kill me this time.
The cure seems to me to be worse than the disease, meaning the lockdown. At the same time I think it can be a nasty illness if you are one of the unlucky ones who gets hit hard for whatever reason.

Regarding the vaccine, the nurse I mentioned above said she probably didn't want to be one of the first ones to try it out, due to what happened with the swine flu (I think it was?) vaccine which caused all those cases of narcolepsy. Health care workers are probably among the first ones to be offered the vaccine at first.

Man alive, glad you recovered.  One of my older sons (30s) got COVID 19 when in Europe.  He shrugged it off after about a week, 100% recovered.

More than 40% of C-19 deaths occurred in nursing homes, retirement homes, VA facilities, and the like.  To kill, it needs the right environment and vulnerable targets.

[honest]

What i find ironic is this is a bodybuilding site, most of us have shot up non pharmaceutical stuff and in many cases peptides IGF and everything else yet we now contemplate not taking a vaccine, just having fun guys, I'm with you has crossed my mind, i also pulled the pin on bodybuilding rather than up the dose. But the general public would find it funny to hear bodybuilders talk about not wanting to take a vaccine due to concerns on what we are putting in our bodies. 

[Zillotch]

the rapid pace of development of this particular vaccine isn't my main concern.

whats the problem?

u find the abominable altering of your dna effectively re defining u as 'other' to b bothersome?

well suk it up, buttercup.... cuz, u know... the flu or some shit.

[oldtimer1]

Time to end the COVID nonsense. Would’ve gone on forever if Trump re-elected.

Market roaring too.

Trump is responsible for removing regulation to get the vaccine in unheard of speed. What would have the Democrat done to end covid sooner? The worse states for deaths per 100K are the blue states of NJ and NY.  When Trump put in the travel ban high level Democrats like Pelosi and DeBlasio were against it.

[Rascal full]

If you feel comfortable about accepting a vaccine that will have taken less than a year to develop, then so be it.

I will NOT allow anyone to vaccinate me with something that could potentially kill me. Most vaccines take years (on average 10-15 years to develop) and we're going to trust the likes of Bill Gates (Who just barely eradicated all of Indian with his vaccine trials) to sell us on this unknown product.

Fuck that asshole and all those like him.

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Yes, well said I hope most people feel the same.

[Griffith]

Time to end the COVID nonsense. Would’ve gone on forever if Trump re-elected.

Market roaring too.

US dollar weakening nicely too and projected to weaken even further.

[TheGrinch]

[loco]

LOL   

[Flexacon]

whats the problem?

u find the abominable altering of your dna effectively re defining u as 'other' to b bothersome?

well suk it up, buttercup.... cuz, u know... the flu or some shit.

If this mRNA technology used for the vaccine works for the masses then the technology in theory could be adapted as a cure for cancer.

It just all looks to good to be true, so yeah I'll hang back on this and see what happens first thanks.

[residue]

If you feel comfortable about accepting a vaccine that will have taken less than a year to develop, then so be it.

I will NOT allow anyone to vaccinate me with something that could potentially kill me. Most vaccines take years (on average 10-15 years to develop) and we're going to trust the likes of Bill Gates (Who just barely eradicated all of Indian with his vaccine trials) to sell us on this unknown product.

Fuck that asshole and all those like him.

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it hasnt been a year, they've been trying to cure sars for close to 20 years now, they've just pivoted to covid-19 this year

[Dave D]

it hasnt been a year, they've been trying to cure sars for close to 20 years now, they've just pivoted to covid-19 this year

Ummm, ok......

So what other versions of SARS is there a vaccine for?

[loco]

If you feel comfortable about accepting a vaccine that will have taken less than a year to develop, then so be it.

I will NOT allow anyone to vaccinate me with something that could potentially kill me. Most vaccines take years (on average 10-15 years to develop) and we're going to trust the likes of Bill Gates (Who just barely eradicated all of Indian with his vaccine trials) to sell us on this unknown product.

Fuck that asshole and all those like him.

"1"

Come on, man.  Young healthy people must risk their lives by taking this vaccine in order to possibly protect very old, very unhealthy people from the China virus.

[tommywishbone]

How about a vaccine against sunburn or a vaccine against a bad haircut or a vaccine against a poor attitude.

Cowards.

Generations of unchecked breeding has producted a nation of cowards. 

Fags!

[falco]

Seems like Russia has come with a vaccine that is 92% effective.
Has this world become a massive troll job?

[Humble Narcissist]

   By the time the vaccine actually gets to the average Person we will have have more data on the safety.

For the short term but no one knows 5 years out.  There is no way I'm getting that vaccine to stop the Kung Flu when the majority who get the China Cold have no symptoms.  A cure for those who have it is much better than a vaccine.

[TheGrinch]

Come on, man.  Young healthy people must risk their lives by taking this vaccine in order to possibly protect very old, very unhealthy people from the China virus.

Here's the liberal logic I seem to fail to grasp..

Hoping someone can make me understand...


Isn't the entire point of a vaccine to protect yourself from getting a disease?

ie.. I get a polio vaccine so I don't get polio

my dog gets a parvo vaccine to keep from getting parvo



So why in the world would I 100% need (according to libs) to get a COVID vaccine if you already got the vaccine yourself that supposedly prevents you from getting COVID?