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Re: COVID Vaccine 90 Percent Effective
« Reply #75 on: November 13, 2020, 04:59:47 AM »
Don't want to be that 1. Imagine if it was someone you cared about. People dying affects families. You say "One person died".

Oh go fukk yourself ya brainless retard.  ::)

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Re: COVID Vaccine 90 Percent Effective
« Reply #76 on: November 13, 2020, 05:01:37 AM »
Oh go fukk yourself ya brainless retard.  ::)
You sound like a moron.

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Re: COVID Vaccine 90 Percent Effective
« Reply #77 on: November 13, 2020, 05:57:13 AM »
Don't want to be that 1. Imagine if it was someone you cared about. People dying affects families. You say "One person died".

You do make a point.

Hmf.

Good Sir.  You have given me something to think about.

We may have suffered global economic losses from combined reduced economic activity and record high deficit spending of over $10 TRILLION, while [speaking of $10 trillion] in that same time period, all 2,095 global billionaires increased their combined net worth $639 billion, bringing their total net wealth up to just over the $10 trillion mark.  That means that each billionaire increased their net worth by  just under $328 MILLION each, and that figure was from three months ago - so it wouldn't shock me if they $100 million each to that figure by now.

But that's cool - global billionaires increasing their combined wealth by nearly a TRILLION dollars while the global economy takes a hit of TEN TRILLION, not to mention all the excess deaths by suicide, drug overdoses, people not being allowed to attend church, be with their husband of wife of 50+ years while they are on their deathbed, not be allowed to hug their grieving mother or grandmother or other relative at the funeral of their father or grandfather, all while calling this "The New Normal" after initially telling us that it was just going to be "two weeks to flatten the curve" [!] through lock-down and other TEMPORARY strict measures.

And if anyone saw the potential disaster this could lead to if world leaders and governments took away more and more freedoms by telling us about all the rising "cases" while never telling us about the numbers of deaths or even serious illnesses causes by COVID, they were immediately branded a tinfoil hat-wearing conspiracy theorist.

Meanwhile, only 26 Canadians under the age of 40 have died from COVID out of 18,559,957 Canadians in that age demographic.

Or, put another, 0.00014% of the under 40 demographic in Canada has died of COVID thus far - meaning that 99.9998599% have SURVIVED this pandemic, despite it being in Canada for almost all of 2020; ever since January 25th when a Chinese man arrived in Toronto from Wuhan, China - you know...Wuhan - the EPICENTRE OF THE OUTBREAK.

But we don't want to be "racist" here in Canada.  We prefer unleashing a pandemic into our "diverse" and "tolerant" multiracial/multicultural nation, and watch 10,768 Canadians die [and counting] with a current total of over 283,000 cases, growing at a rate of over 5,500 a day, which will almost certainly become exponential.

I'm not saying I'm afraid of COVID - given the average death caused by COVID is in a person aged 84.8 years old with 2-3 separate health comorbidities, these people were from a statistical perspective, within 6-18 months of dying anyway [confirmed by actuarial tables all across North America].  But even though the virus itself wasn't as deadly as originally thought, the damage to the economy has been devastating.

Canada has gone into debt due to deficit spending of $343 billion in 2020 alone.

That's more debt in one year than in the previous 27 years combined [see table below].

Canada is spending $940 MILLION PER DAY - almost a full BILLION DOLLARS PER DAY on measures to protect Canadians from a virus that has a 99.5% survival rate for people under the age of 70.

You speak about "one life", as if saving a single life is worth a billion dollars - as if we even HAVE this money to spend [either in Canada, where I know for a FACT we are bankrupt, or in the USA, where I suspect the situation is basically the same], but what about the lives that could have been saved and literally extended by DECADES [not just months or a couple of years at most, in the majority of COVID cases] with the $343 BILLION Canada added to its debt this year?

In 2001, a friend of mine told me that the 1997 heart surgery performed on Arnold [bodybuilding-related] cost him $500,000 USD, and that he wouldn't have been alive at the time [2001] if he wasn't the man he was [or alive now, if that is true].  My friend said that Arnold had steel plates put in his chest, and that he had a surgery that was very cutting-edge at the time, and as a result, very rarely performed on anyway, in large part due to its price; not being covered by most insurance plans, not being available AT ALL in Canada, and ultimately limited only to those who could afford it].

Let's say that Canada's government spent that $343 billion deficit spending on lifesaving medical procedures costing around $500,000 each for Canadians, on procedures such as organ transplants, extensive, invasive, and obviously EXPENSIVE heart surgeries, and other procedures, or expensive medical prescriptions available under most American healthcare plans, but unavailable in most Canadian provinces.

Although this may have changed, Avastin is a top-of-the-line chemotherapy drug that was only available in British Columbia and Newfoundland in 2007, although that may have changed since.

My point is that the $343 billion that Canada has gone into deficit spending over could have saved the lives of 686,000 Canadians at a cost of $500,000, and extended their lives by DECADES, not by an average of 18 months, as with those dying of Covid-19 [given their average age, health conditions, and the resultant lifespan left, from an actuarial perspective].

Yes - every life matters.  One life matters.  But would you bankrupt the entire road, eventually causing all 7.8 billion people on the planet to die, to use that money to save ONE life?  Does that make any sense?

I think this is why liberals need conservatives:

Liberals take risks that conservatives are much less prone to take.  Hence the title "conservative".  But liberals...don't seem to understand the basic requirements to run an economy, including how to evaluate the positives and negatives of a given policy or law by creating a cost/benefit analysis.

I don't want anyone to die from Covid-19.  But if we continue to damage the global economy at the current rate, there will be no money left to save anyone from dying.  That's an exaggeration...but not by much, depending on how this plays out.  Only time will tell...

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Re: COVID Vaccine 90 Percent Effective
« Reply #78 on: November 13, 2020, 06:15:16 AM »
COVID-19: Proposing a Ketone-Based Metabolic Therapy as a Treatment to Blunt the Cytokine Storm

Published 16 Sep 2020

The SARS-CoV-2 virus may become a sustained threat to global health. This review has described many of the molecular mechanisms through which an exogenous ketone-based metabolic therapy together with a moderately high-fat diet may stimulate host cell metabolism and defenses as a possible treatment to blunt the cytokine storm associated with severe SARS-CoV-2 infection. A clinical trial testing this therapy on patients with SARS-CoV-2 is warranted. In addition, further mouse IAV infection studies will aid in the determination of permissive dietary conditions under which exogenous ketone supplementation enhances immune function to facilitate viral clearance and decrease mortality.

https://www.hindawi.com/journals/omcl/2020/6401341/#conclusions

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Re: COVID Vaccine 90 Percent Effective
« Reply #79 on: November 13, 2020, 06:28:26 AM »
Don't want to be that 1. Imagine if it was someone you cared about. People dying affects families. You say "One person died".

 ;D

I talk too much!

You're right - OH MY GOD, ONE PERSON DIED!!!  :'( :( :-\ ::)

Actually wait, TWO people under the age of 20 died in Canada.

Talk about a terrifying global pandemic!

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Re: COVID Vaccine 90 Percent Effective
« Reply #80 on: November 13, 2020, 08:54:18 AM »
Fucking Pfizer, the timing of the vaccine trials data  :-[

https://www.takimag.com/article/the-new-normal-by-any-means-necessary/

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Re: COVID Vaccine 90 Percent Effective
« Reply #81 on: November 13, 2020, 10:57:10 AM »
You do make a point.

Hmf.

Good Sir.  You have given me something to think about.

We may have suffered global economic losses from combined reduced economic activity and record high deficit spending of over $10 TRILLION, while [speaking of $10 trillion] in that same time period, all 2,095 global billionaires increased their combined net worth $639 billion, bringing their total net wealth up to just over the $10 trillion mark.  That means that each billionaire increased their net worth by  just under $328 MILLION each, and that figure was from three months ago - so it wouldn't shock me if they $100 million each to that figure by now.

But that's cool - global billionaires increasing their combined wealth by nearly a TRILLION dollars while the global economy takes a hit of TEN TRILLION, not to mention all the excess deaths by suicide, drug overdoses, people not being allowed to attend church, be with their husband of wife of 50+ years while they are on their deathbed, not be allowed to hug their grieving mother or grandmother or other relative at the funeral of their father or grandfather, all while calling this "The New Normal" after initially telling us that it was just going to be "two weeks to flatten the curve" [!] through lock-down and other TEMPORARY strict measures.

And if anyone saw the potential disaster this could lead to if world leaders and governments took away more and more freedoms by telling us about all the rising "cases" while never telling us about the numbers of deaths or even serious illnesses causes by COVID, they were immediately branded a tinfoil hat-wearing conspiracy theorist.

Meanwhile, only 26 Canadians under the age of 40 have died from COVID out of 18,559,957 Canadians in that age demographic.

Or, put another, 0.00014% of the under 40 demographic in Canada has died of COVID thus far - meaning that 99.9998599% have SURVIVED this pandemic, despite it being in Canada for almost all of 2020; ever since January 25th when a Chinese man arrived in Toronto from Wuhan, China - you know...Wuhan - the EPICENTRE OF THE OUTBREAK.

But we don't want to be "racist" here in Canada.  We prefer unleashing a pandemic into our "diverse" and "tolerant" multiracial/multicultural nation, and watch 10,768 Canadians die [and counting] with a current total of over 283,000 cases, growing at a rate of over 5,500 a day, which will almost certainly become exponential.

I'm not saying I'm afraid of COVID - given the average death caused by COVID is in a person aged 84.8 years old with 2-3 separate health comorbidities, these people were from a statistical perspective, within 6-18 months of dying anyway [confirmed by actuarial tables all across North America].  But even though the virus itself wasn't as deadly as originally thought, the damage to the economy has been devastating.

Canada has gone into debt due to deficit spending of $343 billion in 2020 alone.

That's more debt in one year than in the previous 27 years combined [see table below].

Canada is spending $940 MILLION PER DAY - almost a full BILLION DOLLARS PER DAY on measures to protect Canadians from a virus that has a 99.5% survival rate for people under the age of 70.

You speak about "one life", as if saving a single life is worth a billion dollars - as if we even HAVE this money to spend [either in Canada, where I know for a FACT we are bankrupt, or in the USA, where I suspect the situation is basically the same], but what about the lives that could have been saved and literally extended by DECADES [not just months or a couple of years at most, in the majority of COVID cases] with the $343 BILLION Canada added to its debt this year?

In 2001, a friend of mine told me that the 1997 heart surgery performed on Arnold [bodybuilding-related] cost him $500,000 USD, and that he wouldn't have been alive at the time [2001] if he wasn't the man he was [or alive now, if that is true].  My friend said that Arnold had steel plates put in his chest, and that he had a surgery that was very cutting-edge at the time, and as a result, very rarely performed on anyway, in large part due to its price; not being covered by most insurance plans, not being available AT ALL in Canada, and ultimately limited only to those who could afford it].

Let's say that Canada's government spent that $343 billion deficit spending on lifesaving medical procedures costing around $500,000 each for Canadians, on procedures such as organ transplants, extensive, invasive, and obviously EXPENSIVE heart surgeries, and other procedures, or expensive medical prescriptions available under most American healthcare plans, but unavailable in most Canadian provinces.

Although this may have changed, Avastin is a top-of-the-line chemotherapy drug that was only available in British Columbia and Newfoundland in 2007, although that may have changed since.

My point is that the $343 billion that Canada has gone into deficit spending over could have saved the lives of 686,000 Canadians at a cost of $500,000, and extended their lives by DECADES, not by an average of 18 months, as with those dying of Covid-19 [given their average age, health conditions, and the resultant lifespan left, from an actuarial perspective].

Yes - every life matters.  One life matters.  But would you bankrupt the entire road, eventually causing all 7.8 billion people on the planet to die, to use that money to save ONE life?  Does that make any sense?

I think this is why liberals need conservatives:

Liberals take risks that conservatives are much less prone to take.  Hence the title "conservative".  But liberals...don't seem to understand the basic requirements to run an economy, including how to evaluate the positives and negatives of a given policy or law by creating a cost/benefit analysis.

I don't want anyone to die from Covid-19.  But if we continue to damage the global economy at the current rate, there will be no money left to save anyone from dying.  That's an exaggeration...but not by much, depending on how this plays out.  Only time will tell...

Some very good points worth considering.

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Re: COVID Vaccine 90 Percent Effective
« Reply #82 on: November 16, 2020, 01:26:04 PM »
soon, there will be no viable alternative methods of 'vaccination' or trouble with 'transport' whatsoever.

all of u will b required to participate.

looks like Moderna - formerly known as 'ModeRNA' Therapeutics, (2010–2018) (lol) happens to have an 'inoculation' option with easier transport options... :

“There is clearly an upgrading of the formulation of the Moderna vaccine that no longer requires ultra-cold temperatures to maintain stability, which is the characteristic of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine,”

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/moderna-covid-19-vaccine-has-competitive-advantage-over-pfizer-heres-why-195100657.html

they are presenting an illusion... a problem – cold storage, inefficient rout of administration... what have u.

so that the people will demand their 'solution'

in time... humans will beg to have this biotechnological nightmare applied to their own bodies.

tards will tard - don't b one of them

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Re: COVID Vaccine 90 Percent Effective
« Reply #83 on: November 16, 2020, 04:14:39 PM »
Quick...



Do you know what's 99.5% effective and not dying from COVID?

 ;D


Getting COVID

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Re: COVID Vaccine 90 Percent Effective
« Reply #84 on: November 19, 2020, 01:19:09 AM »
I have a tendency to do that.  ;D

First off, Moontrane - THANK YOU for all you do here!  I have secretly been reading ALL of your posts, and I am very grateful that you have the balls to say things that most people would be terrified to say - especially on my Facebook newsfeed, which has absolutely nothing remotely resembling fair and balanced reporting, because their algorithm is purposely biased against posts like yours - which is a big reason why I come here - to read your posts.

Just in case you [or anyone else] happen to be interested in some more COVID data [from Canada], here is some below.

tl;dr - check the parts in bold, which give an idea as to just how much more likely you are to die of COVID with each passing decade.

AND THIS WHOLE BLULB IS TL;DR, BUT FOR ANYONE INTERESTED IN SOME COMMENTS ON GENERAL HEALTH:

As depressing as it is in one way - the good news is, if you make it into some stage in adulthood [I can't recall the exact age...but somewhere between 20 and 50], it's almost a guarantee that you live well into old age.  If you manage to avoid the pediatric diseases, and other diseases afflicting primarily the young, such as leukemia, and make it to 50 [possibly younger], the odds of you living to be very old are very high.  And while smoking takes 10 years off the lives of long-term smokers, you get those ten years back if you quit before 45.  I assume this is the case with many other vices as well, such as alcohol, or, I would guess [bodybuilding-related] steroids and other PED's!

I just calculated these stats in the time between my previous reply to you.  Again, the parts in bold represent how much each successive decade makes it more likely to get COVID than the decade immediately previous to it [and I included all previous decades, just for the sake of completeness].

Remember Getbiggers - each passing decade, things get harder.  But if we train hard, eat right, live a healthy lifestyle, and date 11's, we can be in extremely good health, even into our sixties!  Just look at Strauss Zelnick!

COVID-19 MORTALITY [DEATH] RATES BY AGE DEMOGRAPHIC IN CANADA [FROM 0-19, TO 80+], WITH ADDITIONAL CALCULATIONS WITH RESPECT TO NUMBER OF DEATHS PER AGE RANGE, WITH RESPECT TO OTHER AGES, PRESENTED BELOW.

NOTE [I]: Canadian mortality figures accurate/updated as of 09-23-2020.
NOTE [II]: Calculations of deaths in all ranges are calculated relative to deaths found in individual previous age range/s and relative to all previous age ranges combined, starting at the 20-29 age range, where prior age demographic mortality data begins.
REF: Public Health Agency of Canada

[1] 0-19:

2 deaths.

[2] 20-29:

9 deaths.

4.5x as many deaths as the 0-19 age group.

4.5x as many deaths of those in 20-29 age range as previous two decades combined.

[3] 30-39:

15 deaths.

1.67x as many deaths as 20-29 age group.
7.5x as many deaths as 0-19 age group.

1.36x as many deaths of those in 30-39 age range as previous three decades combined.

[4] 40-49:

51 deaths.

3.4x as many deaths as 30-39 age group.
5.67x as many deaths as 20-29 age group.
25.5x as many deaths as 0-19 age group.

1.96x as many deaths of those in 40-49 age range as previous four decades combined [1.96x].

[5] 50-59:

220 deaths.

4.31x as many deaths as 40-49 age group.
14.67x as many deaths as 30-39 age group.
24.44x as many deaths as 20-29 age group.
110x as many deaths as 0-19 age group.

2.14x as many deaths of those in 50-59 age range as the previous five decades combined

[6] 60-69:

666 deaths.

3.03x as many deaths as 50-59 age group.
13.06x as many deaths as 40-49 age group.
44.4x as many deaths as 30-39 age group.
74x as many deaths as 20-29 age group.
333x as many deaths as 0-19 age group.

2.24x as many deaths of those in 60-69 age range as the previous six decades combined.

[7] 70-79:

1,664 deaths.

2.5x as many deaths as 60-69 age group.
7.56 as many deaths as 50-59 age group.
32.63 as many deaths as 40-49 age group.
110.93x as many deaths as 30-39 age group.
184.89x as many deaths as 20-29 age group.
832x as many deaths as 0-19 age group.

1.73x as many deaths of those in 70-79 age range as previous seven decades combined.

[8] 80-89:

6,532 deaths.

3.93x as many deaths as 70-79 age group.
9.81x as many deaths as 60-69 age group.
29.69 as many deaths as 50-59 age group.
128.08 as many deaths as 40-49 age group.
435.47x as many deaths as 30-39 age group.
725.78 as many deaths as 20-29 age group.
3,266x as many deaths as 0-19 age group.

3.93x as many deaths of those aged 80+ than the previous eight decades combined.

Matt, thank you for you comments an observations.  I just try and try again.