🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 KYLE RITTENHOUSE NOT GUILTY 🇺🇸🇺🇸

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Gun charge was dropped - try to keep up

It was dropped ...but was still illegal for him to have

[Soul Crusher]

It was dropped ...but was still illegal for him to have

No it wasnt!   That is why the charge was dismissed.   The DA even conceded that. 

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

No it wasnt!   That is why the charge was dismissed.   The DA even conceded that.

Wishy washy...and he should have carried a Pepperball device instead, thats what i would have had.. no different thsn what riot police squads carry...and he would not have required a permit

[Soul Crusher]

Wishy washy...and he should have carried a Pepperball device instead, thats what i would have had.. no different thsn what riot police squads carry...and he would not have required a permit

No - you said it was illegal.   The DA conceded under the law that Rittenhouse was not in violation.  The DA conceded that on the record.   This issue is over and you can keep up saying what you want, but the DA conceded it was legal

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

No - you said it was illegal.   The DA conceded under the law that Rittenhouse was not in violation.  The DA conceded that on the record.   This issue is over and you can keep up saying what you want, but the DA conceded it was legal

Even so, why did he not get a non lethal device like a byrma or Pepperball VKS...like i said, he made poor decisions in which he had only a lethal weapon to use

[Soul Crusher]

Even so, why did he not get a non lethal device like a byrma or Pepperball VKS...like i said, he made poor decisions in which he had only a lethal weapon to use

No one is arguing that.   He should not have been there.   But that does not make him a murderer. 

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

No one is arguing that.   He should not have been there.   But that does not make him a murderer.

I was just answering a what if question...can you agree be made some veey bad decisions??

[Soul Crusher]

I was just answering a what if question...can you agree be made some veey bad decisions??

Yes - he should not have been there.  He was a mis guided teen with a hero complex.   He in his mind, and according to the testimony, was there thinking he was helping.  Remember, he had a medical kit and was helping protestors earlier who were injured!  He was not there to murder people.   

[Coach is Back!]

Would never be in the situation to begin with.  Never would have illegally got a gun, never would have travelled to a war zone that i would have no business at, never would have left the group by myself and most importantly have a non lethal weapon like a PepperBall pistol

Guilty or innocent...he  made a series of very bad decisions that if he was properly trained in doing security work would have never happenned

It’s a hypothetical question

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

It’s a hypothetical question

And i answered it...but even in the situation, a Byrna pepperball pistol or rifle would have cleaned house and would have been more effective...and would leave the people bloody and choking but alive.  It can be also loaded with steel or rubber balls if i needed stopping power without desth

[Coach is Back!]

And i answered it...but even in the situation, a Byrna pepperball pistol or rifle would have cleaned house and would have been more effective...and would leave the people bloody and choking but alive.  It can be also loaded with steel or rubber balls if i needed stopping power without desth

So you had a firearm and 2-3 people attacked you one with a loaded pistol and the other hitting you In the head with a skateboard with the intent to kill you, you wouldn’t defend yourself with that firearm, you’d sacrifice your life for theirs?

[Princess L]

This is a self defense case, not whether he should have been there, what is considered a weapon, what he did weeks or months before or after the night in question...SELF DEFENSE.  The law states lethal force is legal if you reasonably believe that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or others . 

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

So you had a firearm and 2-3 people attacked you one with a loaded pistol and the other hitting you In the head with a skateboard with the intent to kill you, you wouldn’t defend yourself with that firearm, you’d sacrifice your life for theirs?

The Byrna pistol would have eliminated the threat...even someone armed with an actual pistol.  Not only that, just like Rittrnhouse, he could argue that he was attempting to take down an active shooter.  Its up to the jury to decide

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

This is a self defense case, not whether he should have been there, what is considered a weapon, what he did weeks or months before or after the night in question...SELF DEFENSE.  The law states lethal force is legal if you reasonably believe that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or others . 

Not if you put yourself in the position...and i believe he did by his own reckless actions...thats why he's being charged with reckless intentional homicide instead of murder

[Coach is Back!]

The Byrna pistol would have eliminated the threat...even someone armed with an actual pistol.  Not only that, just like Rittrnhouse, he could argue that he was attempting to take down an active shooter.  Its up to the jury to decide

Vince, again. By definition Rittenhouse wasn’t even close to an “Active shooter” and when you say eliminate the treat, what’s your definition of that?

[tommywishbone]

It was dropped ...but was still illegal for him to have

No. No sir.  100 percent legal.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Vince, again. By definition Rittenhouse wasn’t even close to an “Active shooter” and when you say eliminate the treat, what’s your definition of that?

I'm giving you the prosecutions argument with i think its definitelyvalid...i see the defense's argument as somewhat valid.   Thats for the jury to decide.  They let Zimmerman go free under those circumstances which was wrong but this is much different.  I wouldnt want this idiot getting away scott free without any punishment...he made bad decisions and arguing self defense only goes so far

[Coach is Back!]

Not if you put yourself in the position...and i believe he did by his own reckless actions...thats why he's being charged with reckless intentional homicide instead of murder

Lets try another hypothetical. You're driving home, on your route back home you come up to a large group of rioters. 10-15 rioters are surrounding. They start attacking you while you're still in your car. They're using implements to break windows and gain access inside the car. What are your possibilities to get away? You are in imminent danger. What do you do?

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Lets try another hypothetical. You're driving home, on your route back home you come up to a large group of rioters. 10-15 rioters are surrounding. They start attacking you while you're still in your car. They're using implements to break windows and gain access inside the car. What are your possibilities to get away? You are in imminent danger. What do you do?

Bryna pistol or VKS pepperball...or just run them the fuck over..

[Coach is Back!]

Bryna pistol or VKS pepperball...or just run them the fuck over..

100% right there. Because a car is considered a lethal weapon and can be used as such and it would be legal (check your states laws. Blue states couldn't give two shits about your life when it comes to self defense) If someone dies, they die.

[Straw Man]

Whites as a group do not have the same rights. On paper maybe but not in reality. You can have a "brown pride" tattoo and no one bats an eye. Try having a "white pride" tattoo and see how it affects your career. You know there's the very prevalent idea that only the ones "on top" can be racist. That means only whites can be racist. They are in fact benefitting from racism just by being born, they are racists unless actively working against racism and usually even that isn't enough to rid whites of this original sin. Blacks or browns can't be racist. Asians maybe but only because they are so smart and are kinda white too.

No racist can be smart? Laughable. Everyone has racist ideas. Almost everyone on getbig is racist against blacks. Same as the real world. No one really thinks blacks are as smart as whites or asians on average. Do you? If you think there are cognitive or other physical differences between what we call races you are a racist. Only the melanin content in the skin differs between races according to anti-racists. Who believes baloney like that?

WTF are you talking about...again

You or anyone else can get any tattoo that you want

If you can't handle people looking at your stupid tattoo that's your problem

You still have the right to get it

Getting a tattoo is not even a right for fucks sake

WTF are you talking about

[Straw Man]

I would consider it a weapon, and I would consider the individual luck that the cop didn’t pull out his gun and shoot the person, just like the lady who was shot.

I'm totally amazed at the restraint of the Capitol police

Rittenhouse shot 3 people and is claiming self defense

Don't the cops also have a right to use deadly force when faced with a deadly threat?

Chaos's claim is idiotic which is why he can't explain it and has disappeared from this thread

[Royalty]

I'm totally amazed at the restraint of the Capitol police

Rittenhouse shot 3 people and is claiming self defense

Don't the cops also have a right to use deadly force when faced with a deadly threat?

Chaos's claim is idiotic which is why he can't explain it and has disappeared from this thread

I think that the restraint demonstrated by those cops indicates that some of them were in on it. I saw video of security people opening doors for protesters, letting them inside to go for a self-guided “tour”

[Coach is Back!]

Bryna pistol or VKS pepperball...or just run them the fuck over..

Ok, I just watched a 14min Youtube on the Byrna. Bottom line, there seems to be a lot of malfunctions as with most C02 charged firearms (this is not the same as Airsoft). Yeah, the impact is painful but doesn't seem enough to really stop someone unless you aim for the head and if you don't train, that's highly unlikely. Because it's unreliable and you have multiple threats coming at you the chance of a malfunction seems pretty good with thing.

Unless you can shoot hundreds of rounds through it without a malfunction to prove it's reliability, you're a dead man.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

100% right there. Because a car is considered a lethal weapon and can be used as such and it would be legal (check your states laws. Blue states couldn't give two shits about your life when it comes to self defense) If someone dies, they die.

People have run over protesters and were not charged because they were in inniment danger from people kicking and trying to break into the vehicle.  But you cant run over someone if they are standing in the road and not causing an imminent threat.  Youre only consequence is being late for an appointment.   However an ambulance with a patrient in it can run over someone if lights and alerts are flashing