Author Topic: 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 KYLE RITTENHOUSE NOT GUILTY 🇺🇸🇺🇸  (Read 82756 times)


Soul Crusher

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 41757
  • Doesnt lie about lifting.
NBC/MSNBC News BANNED From Kenosha Courthouse
PJ Media ^ | 18 Nov 2021 | Victoria Kraft
Posted on 11/18/2021, 2:21:38 PM by Rummyfan

It looks as if MSNBC and NBC News just got caught possibly trying to doxx the Kyle Rittenhouse jury.

On Thursday morning, Judge Bruce Schroeder banned NBC and MSNBC from the Kyle Rittenhouse trial and, indeed, the entire courthouse after a man who identified himself as a producer with the networks was caught following the jury bus after deliberations last night.

The man identified by the judge as James Morrison allegedly followed the bus and ran a red light to stay close in order to contact jurors or get photographs of them.

It’s unclear what his motivations were, but, of course, he knew that following and possibly doxxing the jury was unethical.

The judge said Morrison claimed his supervisor, Irene Byon, ordered him to follow the jury bus after they wrapped up their deliberations.

The bus meets jurors at a specific spot where they can park and jump on the bus, outfitted with darkened or blocked windows, to go the courthouse every day.

(Excerpt) Read more at pjmedia.com ...

Pray_4_War

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 15801
  • Thot Expert
NBC/MSNBC News BANNED From Kenosha Courthouse
PJ Media ^ | 18 Nov 2021 | Victoria Kraft
Posted on 11/18/2021, 2:21:38 PM by Rummyfan

It looks as if MSNBC and NBC News just got caught possibly trying to doxx the Kyle Rittenhouse jury.

On Thursday morning, Judge Bruce Schroeder banned NBC and MSNBC from the Kyle Rittenhouse trial and, indeed, the entire courthouse after a man who identified himself as a producer with the networks was caught following the jury bus after deliberations last night.

The man identified by the judge as James Morrison allegedly followed the bus and ran a red light to stay close in order to contact jurors or get photographs of them.

It’s unclear what his motivations were, but, of course, he knew that following and possibly doxxing the jury was unethical.

The judge said Morrison claimed his supervisor, Irene Byon, ordered him to follow the jury bus after they wrapped up their deliberations.

The bus meets jurors at a specific spot where they can park and jump on the bus, outfitted with darkened or blocked windows, to go the courthouse every day.

(Excerpt) Read more at pjmedia.com ...

....and we know damn well why.

Princess L

  • Moderator
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 13106
  • I stop for turtles
This article is adapted from Tucker Carlson's opening commentary on the November 16, 2021 edition of "Tucker Carlson Tonight."
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-why-kenosha-destroyed

Just another evening in what has become a pretty high drama country, really. The jury in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial has gone home for the night after many hours of deliberations today. The average jury reaches a verdict in just a few hours, so these jurors are taking much longer than most.
But it's probably not because the evidence they have heard is confusing them. In a typical trial, an insider trading trial for example, something complex, an honest observer might be able to see both sides of the case and probably can. But that is not true here, far from it.
In fact, it's the opposite. From the very first moments of this trial it was obvious that Kyle Rittenhouse never should have been indicted in the first place. The key question was: Did Kyle Rittenhouse act in self-defense that night in Kenosha? And the answer unequivocally is yes. Obviously, it's a no-brainer. It's like the O.J. trial, no honest person could reach a different conclusion.
Kyle Rittenhouse shot men he believed were trying to kill him. Now, why did Kyle Rittenhouse believe that, you may ask? Well, in one case, the man he shot told him so directly, "I plan to kill you." Of the other two men Kyle Rittenhouse shot, one repeatedly bashed him in the head with a skateboard as he lay on the ground. The other stuck a loaded gun in his face. So Kyle Rittenhouse fought back in order to save his own life.
We're not guessing about that, even the prosecution's witnesses made that point. So once that happened, once Kyle Rittenhouse's life was threatened on the street in Kenosha, what were his options exactly? Well, he could fight back, or he could allow himself to be murdered by the rioters. And allowing himself to be murdered by the rioters is essentially what the prosecution has argued: Kyle Rittenhouse had a duty to submit to the mob.
Well, that's lunacy, and no sane jury could agree with that for a second. So the question is why is it taking so long for this jury to produce a very obvious verdict? For answer, look outside the courtroom. There are hundreds of National Guard troops assembled tonight in Kenosha. Why are they there? Well, they've come in case Kyle Rittenhouse is acquitted. Not in case he's convicted, in case he's acquitted. At which point if he is acquitted, pretty much everyone expects the usual mobs of Joe Biden voters to burn and loot and destroy.
Why does everyone expect this? Because people on the left are openly calling for it. "Now the jury deliberation has begun, I think every city in America should prepare for what could happen if Rittenhouse gets acquitted. It may get RIGHTFULLY unpleasant." That's the message from an actual teacher from the state of Indiana on Twitter today and it echoes what many others are saying tonight.
So imagine if you were a juror in this case? How would you feel about this? You're not sequestered, you know how the country feels. You know what the threats are. Well, you might think twice before you acquitted Kyle Rittenhouse, no matter what the evidence was.
Remember what happened after Rodney King. They burned Los Angeles to the ground. You wouldn't want to be responsible for that. You wouldn't want to spark riots. And of course, that's the whole point of the exercise. The mob threatens violence, the rest of us tremble, and pretty soon the mob controls our justice system. Pretty soon, the enemies of civilization, which is what they are, are in charge of the country. That's what's happening now.
So it's worth pausing for a moment to ask, how did we get here? Well, here's one summary that caught our eye. Today, a Hill staffer called Billy Gribbin summed it up in the following way, "We're waiting to see if riots break out because of media lies about a case from a riot that happened because of media lies."
Well, that's nicely put and it's totally true. The August 2020 riot in Kenosha wasn't really a riot in the way that we understand riots. It was an outbreak of political violence. It began three days after the Democratic convention. That was the context for it. It was, in fact, one of many riots that summer across the country, all of which were explicitly supported by the leadership of the Democratic Party. We're not making this up. Look it up.
What was the point of these riots? Big picture, the point was to unseat Donald Trump. In the specific case of Kenosha, we know exactly the chain of events that led to where we are today. A man called Jacob Blake was shot by the police. Immediately, the media and the Democratic politicians they serve lied about what happened.  So they told us that a cop shot Jacob Blake in the back for no apparent reason – and by the way, Jacob Blake was unarmed, he was helpless, they just pulled him out of a lineup and shot him because that's what America is like.
Kamala Harris then jumped in and said she was "proud" of Jacob Blake, like he was a civil rights hero, like he was shot for being the wrong color, as so often happens in a systemically racist country. But it was all totally untrue. Not just the themes, but the facts. They were lies.
In fact, the police were responding to a call from a woman who said Jacob Blake was trying to kidnap her child. So the police showed up as they should have. They tried to detain Jacob Blake and Jacob Blake fought the cops. Then he grabbed a knife. Jacob Blake was holding that knife when he was shot by the police. Jacob Blake admitted that on television.  It was too late.
Based on the first false stories from the news media told intentionally, our leaders suggested that these riots in Kenosha were somehow justified and then allowed them to continue. So this is what Kenosha looked like the night that Kyle Rittenhouse arrived to help defend local businesses.
Well that's not a civil rights protest, that's not people fighting back against oppression, systemic racism. That's just people destroying things they didn't build. That's people wrecking our civilization. In no normal country would that be allowed, it would be put down immediately with force. That's why we have police.
You can't allow that because if you do allow that, people get killed – as they did. But local police, you should know, did virtually nothing to stop any of the things you just saw. From the very top of the power structure, the state of Wisconsin, the word was let it happen.

The governor of Wisconsin, Tony Evers, turned down an offer from Washington to send federal officers in order to help get Kenosha under control, to save the city. That was a shockingly irresponsible decision, it was an immoral decision. But Tony Evers still defends it, "I have no regrets." Really? That's because he doesn't live in Kenosha.
Downtown Kenosha burned. It will never be rebuilt. Talk about a city that doesn't deserve any of this. Kenosha is just a town of 100,000 people, many of them Hispanic, if that even matters. But it's true, they're not rich people who live there.
Kenosha is far past its prime. It was part of the industrial base that built this country that built the modern world. Now it's suffering even more than it was before the riots because a bunch of entitled antisocial lunatics broke things for no reason. Because our leaders allowed them. A city official estimates the damage from last summer's riots at about $50 million. That's a lot in Kenosha, in fact it's about more than half the entire municipal budget for the city of Kenosha.
So why did the people in charge allow Kenosha to be destroyed? This happened over days. They allowed this. Why?
Well, for the same reason they indicted Kyle Rittenhouse. To send a very clear message to the rest of us watching on television: Don't resist. When the mob comes, you can't fight back. We're in charge. We'll do what we want.  All summer they made that very clear.
Here's what happened to one man who foolishly tried to defend his own business from looters in Dallas.
Video of man being stomped and attacked by mob
There's so much video like that. And at the time, we restrained ourselves and didn't show all of it, we're not going to show all of it tonight because it's too divisive. It's too awful. It hypes people up too much, it's too emotional, but it's totally real. That happened across the country to people who did nothing wrong.
So the message over time was very, very clear. And again, it's the same message they're sending us with the Rittenhouse trial: resistance is futile. Try to defend yourself and we're gonna throw you in jail.
During closing arguments, in case you missed the point, one of the prosecutors, in this case, said it out loud: When the mob comes, he said, just let them beat you.
KRAUS: Everybody takes a beating, sometimes, right? Sometimes you get in a scuffle and maybe you do get hurt a little bit. That doesn't mean you would just start plugging people with your full metal jacket, AR-15 rounds and no bullets or not bullets.
Everyone takes a beating? How dare you talk like that in court. In a sane, civilized society you can't condone violence just because the people committing it vote for the candidate you like.

Notice the change here, though. This case has gone from "White supremacist hunts down and executes BLM protesters" – like it was a racial case, everyone's White – to the new theme "that teenager should have accepted his beating from the child molester arsonist who was chasing him and threatening to kill him and because he didn't he needs to go to jail." Once again, a very clear message: submit. The prosecution hammered this again and again and again.
KRAUS: Why do you get to immediately just start shooting? As Mr. Binger said, he brought a gun to a fistfight. And he's too cowardly to use his own fist to fight his way out. He has to start shooting.
Really? Too cowardly? A 17-year-old should have gotten into a fistfight with a 36-year-old violent pedophile? Right.
Speaking of cowardly, where were the police who are paid to stop this stuff? Who are paid to keep mob violence from happening in the first place? Where's the governor, who's under too much political pressure to protect his own people? Talk about cowardly. Blaming a 17-year-old who shows up because the city his dad lives in is on fire and he wants to do something? He shouldn't have been there in the first place, he shouldn't have had to have been there. The adults should have been there. They're the cowards.
These prosecutors are appalling, this whole spectacle is appalling. At the same time, watch how the prosecutor characterizes the pedophile's actions the night he was shot.
BINGER: So what does he do that night? Oh, let me tell you all the awful things Joseph Rosenbaum did. He tipped over a porta-potty that had no one in it. He swung a chain. He lit a metal garbage dumpster on fire. Oh, and there's this empty wooden flatbed trailer that they pulled out in the middle of the road and they tipped it over to stop some bearcats and they lit it on fire. Oh, and he said some bad words. He said the N-word.
That's one of the weirdest thing that's ever happened in an open court. That's the prosecutor. That's a government official mocking the idea that it's a big deal to light cars on fire to keep the police from coming in and restoring order. It's just not a big deal at all, is what the prosecutor is telling us. He's also saying it's not a big deal to scream racial slurs in public. Really, since when is that true?
This is lunacy. The jury was never allowed to hear the details of the life of this guy, Joseph Rosenbaum. He had quite a history that does seem sort of relevant, actually.
'There's a big difference between protests and riots': Maron Video
The rest of the media is not going to tell you anything about it, so we will. In 2002, Joseph Rosenbaum was charged by a grand jury with 11 counts of child molestation, including forcible sodomy. This wasn't, him at 19 with a 17-year-old girlfriend. No, no. He raped children. The victims were five boys between the ages of 9 and 11.

Ultimately, Rosenbaum was sentenced to 10 years in prison for this. When he got out of prison, Rosenbaum destroyed his ankle monitor that he was required to wear. The day he died, Rosenbaum had an open case for domestic abuse. They're defending this guy. Just hours before he threatened to kill Kyle Rittenhouse, Rosenbaum had been released from a mental hospital being treated for some sort of disorder, obviously. He tried to go back to his fiancee, but she had a no-contact order after she pressed charges against him a month earlier for hitting her. So this is the man they're telling you was a model citizen.
JOY REID: Let me just remind people of the names of the victims. Joseph Rosenbaum, who was 36 years old. Anthony Huber, who was 26. Gaige Grosskreutz is only 27 years old, was injured. These are the victims. These are the people that people ought to remember, these are the people who were hurt here, not the person who was crying on the stand today.
So if you are an honest progressive, wouldn't you ask yourself, "What are all these people doing at a Joe Biden rally? Three days after the Democratic convention. They're all on my side, but I notice that all of them are actually horrible."
This is not a cross-section of America. These are the worst people in America. Joseph Rosenbaum, the child rapist. What about the other victims? Our media tells you a main victim is a guy called Gaige Grosskreutz. He's the guy who ran up Kyle Rittenhouse and pointed a loaded gun in his face, for which he's never been charged. That's not a big deal because he votes the right way. Who is this guy?
Well, Grosskreutz, it turns out, also has a lengthy criminal history that includes an arrest for hitting his own grandmother in the face. Just six days before he testified in the trial Grosskreutz was in court on a DUI charge, which Joe Biden says is not a big deal, but most of us grew up thinking, you were not supposed to do that. Several years ago, Grosskreutz was charged with smashing the bedroom window of his ex-girlfriend's home at 4 a.m. On the night Kyle Rittenhouse shot him, Grosskreutz has admitted he was carrying an illegal firearm. Oh, no longer a big deal, either. Gun crimes don't matter if you vote the right way.
So what about Anthony Huber? He's the man who hit Kyle Rittenhouse twice in the head with a skateboard. Who was he? He's a convicted domestic abuser. According to court records, Huber once told his brother that if he didn't clean a room in his house, he was going to "gut him like a pig." Huber said that while he was holding a six-inch knife to his brother's stomach. Then he grabbed his brother's neck and said, "I'm going to burn this house down with all of you in it." Huber pleaded guilty to one count of strangulation that time.
So I guess the point is pretty simple: there were a lot of violent criminals at this particular Joe Biden rally in Kenosha, Wisconsin, last summer. What are the odds of that? Kind of hard not to contrast it with what happened on Jan. 6, the insurrection they never stopped telling us about. No one has been charged with carrying a gun inside the Capitol building that day. How many fires did they set? None that we're aware of, but they get to rot in solitary confinement anyway while Gaige Grosskreutz gets the seal of approval from MSNBC anchors for pointing a loaded gun he was carrying illegally in the face of a child.

So the Kyle Rittenhouse trial is wrapping up, but the people who engineered the political prosecution behind this are still in power. One of the main takeaways from all of this is that those people are now more brazen than they have ever been. They're just saying it out loud now.

:

ThisisOverload

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 7719
NBC/MSNBC News BANNED From Kenosha Courthouse
PJ Media ^ | 18 Nov 2021 | Victoria Kraft
Posted on 11/18/2021, 2:21:38 PM by Rummyfan

It looks as if MSNBC and NBC News just got caught possibly trying to doxx the Kyle Rittenhouse jury.

On Thursday morning, Judge Bruce Schroeder banned NBC and MSNBC from the Kyle Rittenhouse trial and, indeed, the entire courthouse after a man who identified himself as a producer with the networks was caught following the jury bus after deliberations last night.

The man identified by the judge as James Morrison allegedly followed the bus and ran a red light to stay close in order to contact jurors or get photographs of them.

It’s unclear what his motivations were, but, of course, he knew that following and possibly doxxing the jury was unethical.

The judge said Morrison claimed his supervisor, Irene Byon, ordered him to follow the jury bus after they wrapped up their deliberations.

The bus meets jurors at a specific spot where they can park and jump on the bus, outfitted with darkened or blocked windows, to go the courthouse every day.

(Excerpt) Read more at pjmedia.com ...

What i've learned more than ever before over the last 2 years is how corrupt and messed up the MSM is.

They are hired thugs at this point.

Irongrip400

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 22349
  • Pan Germanism, Pax Britannica
I’m not a lawyer, but can the judge set aside the verdict and rule himself? Can a mistrial be declared after the verdict, or would it just be grounds for appeal?

Soul Crusher

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 41757
  • Doesnt lie about lifting.
Yes the judge can set aside

Primemuscle

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 42303
I’m not a lawyer, but can the judge set aside the verdict and rule himself? Can a mistrial be declared after the verdict, or would it just be grounds for appeal?

A judge can overturn a jury verdict but it is rare and there needs to be very specific reasons for doing so.

Mayday

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 3004
What i've learned more than ever before over the last 2 years is how corrupt and messed up the MSM is.

They are hired thugs at this point.

The boss nuked her social media and LinkedIn.

It doesn’t matter as her name is plastered all over the internet forever so any google search will have her name tarnished forever. I doubt she is one of the protected left so I wouldn’t be surprised to see them sacrifice her in the name of ad revenue.

Moontrane

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 6290
  • Drill, Baby, Drill!
NBC/MSNBC News BANNED From Kenosha Courthouse
PJ Media ^ | 18 Nov 2021 | Victoria Kraft
Posted on 11/18/2021, 2:21:38 PM by Rummyfan

It looks as if MSNBC and NBC News just got caught possibly trying to doxx the Kyle Rittenhouse jury.

On Thursday morning, Judge Bruce Schroeder banned NBC and MSNBC from the Kyle Rittenhouse trial and, indeed, the entire courthouse after a man who identified himself as a producer with the networks was caught following the jury bus after deliberations last night.

The man identified by the judge as James Morrison allegedly followed the bus and ran a red light to stay close in order to contact jurors or get photographs of them.

It’s unclear what his motivations were, but, of course, he knew that following and possibly doxxing the jury was unethical.

The judge said Morrison claimed his supervisor, Irene Byon, ordered him to follow the jury bus after they wrapped up their deliberations.

The bus meets jurors at a specific spot where they can park and jump on the bus, outfitted with darkened or blocked windows, to go the courthouse every day.

(Excerpt) Read more at pjmedia.com ...

Will Jim Acosta sue to get back in?  :D

robcguns

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 20124
  • Founder of the proud straight white male movement
This article is adapted from Tucker Carlson's opening commentary on the November 16, 2021 edition of "Tucker Carlson Tonight."
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-why-kenosha-destroyed

Just another evening in what has become a pretty high drama country, really. The jury in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial has gone home for the night after many hours of deliberations today. The average jury reaches a verdict in just a few hours, so these jurors are taking much longer than most.
But it's probably not because the evidence they have heard is confusing them. In a typical trial, an insider trading trial for example, something complex, an honest observer might be able to see both sides of the case and probably can. But that is not true here, far from it.
In fact, it's the opposite. From the very first moments of this trial it was obvious that Kyle Rittenhouse never should have been indicted in the first place. The key question was: Did Kyle Rittenhouse act in self-defense that night in Kenosha? And the answer unequivocally is yes. Obviously, it's a no-brainer. It's like the O.J. trial, no honest person could reach a different conclusion.
Kyle Rittenhouse shot men he believed were trying to kill him. Now, why did Kyle Rittenhouse believe that, you may ask? Well, in one case, the man he shot told him so directly, "I plan to kill you." Of the other two men Kyle Rittenhouse shot, one repeatedly bashed him in the head with a skateboard as he lay on the ground. The other stuck a loaded gun in his face. So Kyle Rittenhouse fought back in order to save his own life.
We're not guessing about that, even the prosecution's witnesses made that point. So once that happened, once Kyle Rittenhouse's life was threatened on the street in Kenosha, what were his options exactly? Well, he could fight back, or he could allow himself to be murdered by the rioters. And allowing himself to be murdered by the rioters is essentially what the prosecution has argued: Kyle Rittenhouse had a duty to submit to the mob.
Well, that's lunacy, and no sane jury could agree with that for a second. So the question is why is it taking so long for this jury to produce a very obvious verdict? For answer, look outside the courtroom. There are hundreds of National Guard troops assembled tonight in Kenosha. Why are they there? Well, they've come in case Kyle Rittenhouse is acquitted. Not in case he's convicted, in case he's acquitted. At which point if he is acquitted, pretty much everyone expects the usual mobs of Joe Biden voters to burn and loot and destroy.
Why does everyone expect this? Because people on the left are openly calling for it. "Now the jury deliberation has begun, I think every city in America should prepare for what could happen if Rittenhouse gets acquitted. It may get RIGHTFULLY unpleasant." That's the message from an actual teacher from the state of Indiana on Twitter today and it echoes what many others are saying tonight.
So imagine if you were a juror in this case? How would you feel about this? You're not sequestered, you know how the country feels. You know what the threats are. Well, you might think twice before you acquitted Kyle Rittenhouse, no matter what the evidence was.
Remember what happened after Rodney King. They burned Los Angeles to the ground. You wouldn't want to be responsible for that. You wouldn't want to spark riots. And of course, that's the whole point of the exercise. The mob threatens violence, the rest of us tremble, and pretty soon the mob controls our justice system. Pretty soon, the enemies of civilization, which is what they are, are in charge of the country. That's what's happening now.
So it's worth pausing for a moment to ask, how did we get here? Well, here's one summary that caught our eye. Today, a Hill staffer called Billy Gribbin summed it up in the following way, "We're waiting to see if riots break out because of media lies about a case from a riot that happened because of media lies."
Well, that's nicely put and it's totally true. The August 2020 riot in Kenosha wasn't really a riot in the way that we understand riots. It was an outbreak of political violence. It began three days after the Democratic convention. That was the context for it. It was, in fact, one of many riots that summer across the country, all of which were explicitly supported by the leadership of the Democratic Party. We're not making this up. Look it up.
What was the point of these riots? Big picture, the point was to unseat Donald Trump. In the specific case of Kenosha, we know exactly the chain of events that led to where we are today. A man called Jacob Blake was shot by the police. Immediately, the media and the Democratic politicians they serve lied about what happened.  So they told us that a cop shot Jacob Blake in the back for no apparent reason – and by the way, Jacob Blake was unarmed, he was helpless, they just pulled him out of a lineup and shot him because that's what America is like.
Kamala Harris then jumped in and said she was "proud" of Jacob Blake, like he was a civil rights hero, like he was shot for being the wrong color, as so often happens in a systemically racist country. But it was all totally untrue. Not just the themes, but the facts. They were lies.
In fact, the police were responding to a call from a woman who said Jacob Blake was trying to kidnap her child. So the police showed up as they should have. They tried to detain Jacob Blake and Jacob Blake fought the cops. Then he grabbed a knife. Jacob Blake was holding that knife when he was shot by the police. Jacob Blake admitted that on television.  It was too late.
Based on the first false stories from the news media told intentionally, our leaders suggested that these riots in Kenosha were somehow justified and then allowed them to continue. So this is what Kenosha looked like the night that Kyle Rittenhouse arrived to help defend local businesses.
Well that's not a civil rights protest, that's not people fighting back against oppression, systemic racism. That's just people destroying things they didn't build. That's people wrecking our civilization. In no normal country would that be allowed, it would be put down immediately with force. That's why we have police.
You can't allow that because if you do allow that, people get killed – as they did. But local police, you should know, did virtually nothing to stop any of the things you just saw. From the very top of the power structure, the state of Wisconsin, the word was let it happen.

The governor of Wisconsin, Tony Evers, turned down an offer from Washington to send federal officers in order to help get Kenosha under control, to save the city. That was a shockingly irresponsible decision, it was an immoral decision. But Tony Evers still defends it, "I have no regrets." Really? That's because he doesn't live in Kenosha.
Downtown Kenosha burned. It will never be rebuilt. Talk about a city that doesn't deserve any of this. Kenosha is just a town of 100,000 people, many of them Hispanic, if that even matters. But it's true, they're not rich people who live there.
Kenosha is far past its prime. It was part of the industrial base that built this country that built the modern world. Now it's suffering even more than it was before the riots because a bunch of entitled antisocial lunatics broke things for no reason. Because our leaders allowed them. A city official estimates the damage from last summer's riots at about $50 million. That's a lot in Kenosha, in fact it's about more than half the entire municipal budget for the city of Kenosha.
So why did the people in charge allow Kenosha to be destroyed? This happened over days. They allowed this. Why?
Well, for the same reason they indicted Kyle Rittenhouse. To send a very clear message to the rest of us watching on television: Don't resist. When the mob comes, you can't fight back. We're in charge. We'll do what we want.  All summer they made that very clear.
Here's what happened to one man who foolishly tried to defend his own business from looters in Dallas.
Video of man being stomped and attacked by mob
There's so much video like that. And at the time, we restrained ourselves and didn't show all of it, we're not going to show all of it tonight because it's too divisive. It's too awful. It hypes people up too much, it's too emotional, but it's totally real. That happened across the country to people who did nothing wrong.
So the message over time was very, very clear. And again, it's the same message they're sending us with the Rittenhouse trial: resistance is futile. Try to defend yourself and we're gonna throw you in jail.
During closing arguments, in case you missed the point, one of the prosecutors, in this case, said it out loud: When the mob comes, he said, just let them beat you.
KRAUS: Everybody takes a beating, sometimes, right? Sometimes you get in a scuffle and maybe you do get hurt a little bit. That doesn't mean you would just start plugging people with your full metal jacket, AR-15 rounds and no bullets or not bullets.
Everyone takes a beating? How dare you talk like that in court. In a sane, civilized society you can't condone violence just because the people committing it vote for the candidate you like.

Notice the change here, though. This case has gone from "White supremacist hunts down and executes BLM protesters" – like it was a racial case, everyone's White – to the new theme "that teenager should have accepted his beating from the child molester arsonist who was chasing him and threatening to kill him and because he didn't he needs to go to jail." Once again, a very clear message: submit. The prosecution hammered this again and again and again.
KRAUS: Why do you get to immediately just start shooting? As Mr. Binger said, he brought a gun to a fistfight. And he's too cowardly to use his own fist to fight his way out. He has to start shooting.
Really? Too cowardly? A 17-year-old should have gotten into a fistfight with a 36-year-old violent pedophile? Right.
Speaking of cowardly, where were the police who are paid to stop this stuff? Who are paid to keep mob violence from happening in the first place? Where's the governor, who's under too much political pressure to protect his own people? Talk about cowardly. Blaming a 17-year-old who shows up because the city his dad lives in is on fire and he wants to do something? He shouldn't have been there in the first place, he shouldn't have had to have been there. The adults should have been there. They're the cowards.
These prosecutors are appalling, this whole spectacle is appalling. At the same time, watch how the prosecutor characterizes the pedophile's actions the night he was shot.
BINGER: So what does he do that night? Oh, let me tell you all the awful things Joseph Rosenbaum did. He tipped over a porta-potty that had no one in it. He swung a chain. He lit a metal garbage dumpster on fire. Oh, and there's this empty wooden flatbed trailer that they pulled out in the middle of the road and they tipped it over to stop some bearcats and they lit it on fire. Oh, and he said some bad words. He said the N-word.
That's one of the weirdest thing that's ever happened in an open court. That's the prosecutor. That's a government official mocking the idea that it's a big deal to light cars on fire to keep the police from coming in and restoring order. It's just not a big deal at all, is what the prosecutor is telling us. He's also saying it's not a big deal to scream racial slurs in public. Really, since when is that true?
This is lunacy. The jury was never allowed to hear the details of the life of this guy, Joseph Rosenbaum. He had quite a history that does seem sort of relevant, actually.
'There's a big difference between protests and riots': Maron Video
The rest of the media is not going to tell you anything about it, so we will. In 2002, Joseph Rosenbaum was charged by a grand jury with 11 counts of child molestation, including forcible sodomy. This wasn't, him at 19 with a 17-year-old girlfriend. No, no. He raped children. The victims were five boys between the ages of 9 and 11.

Ultimately, Rosenbaum was sentenced to 10 years in prison for this. When he got out of prison, Rosenbaum destroyed his ankle monitor that he was required to wear. The day he died, Rosenbaum had an open case for domestic abuse. They're defending this guy. Just hours before he threatened to kill Kyle Rittenhouse, Rosenbaum had been released from a mental hospital being treated for some sort of disorder, obviously. He tried to go back to his fiancee, but she had a no-contact order after she pressed charges against him a month earlier for hitting her. So this is the man they're telling you was a model citizen.
JOY REID: Let me just remind people of the names of the victims. Joseph Rosenbaum, who was 36 years old. Anthony Huber, who was 26. Gaige Grosskreutz is only 27 years old, was injured. These are the victims. These are the people that people ought to remember, these are the people who were hurt here, not the person who was crying on the stand today.
So if you are an honest progressive, wouldn't you ask yourself, "What are all these people doing at a Joe Biden rally? Three days after the Democratic convention. They're all on my side, but I notice that all of them are actually horrible."
This is not a cross-section of America. These are the worst people in America. Joseph Rosenbaum, the child rapist. What about the other victims? Our media tells you a main victim is a guy called Gaige Grosskreutz. He's the guy who ran up Kyle Rittenhouse and pointed a loaded gun in his face, for which he's never been charged. That's not a big deal because he votes the right way. Who is this guy?
Well, Grosskreutz, it turns out, also has a lengthy criminal history that includes an arrest for hitting his own grandmother in the face. Just six days before he testified in the trial Grosskreutz was in court on a DUI charge, which Joe Biden says is not a big deal, but most of us grew up thinking, you were not supposed to do that. Several years ago, Grosskreutz was charged with smashing the bedroom window of his ex-girlfriend's home at 4 a.m. On the night Kyle Rittenhouse shot him, Grosskreutz has admitted he was carrying an illegal firearm. Oh, no longer a big deal, either. Gun crimes don't matter if you vote the right way.
So what about Anthony Huber? He's the man who hit Kyle Rittenhouse twice in the head with a skateboard. Who was he? He's a convicted domestic abuser. According to court records, Huber once told his brother that if he didn't clean a room in his house, he was going to "gut him like a pig." Huber said that while he was holding a six-inch knife to his brother's stomach. Then he grabbed his brother's neck and said, "I'm going to burn this house down with all of you in it." Huber pleaded guilty to one count of strangulation that time.
So I guess the point is pretty simple: there were a lot of violent criminals at this particular Joe Biden rally in Kenosha, Wisconsin, last summer. What are the odds of that? Kind of hard not to contrast it with what happened on Jan. 6, the insurrection they never stopped telling us about. No one has been charged with carrying a gun inside the Capitol building that day. How many fires did they set? None that we're aware of, but they get to rot in solitary confinement anyway while Gaige Grosskreutz gets the seal of approval from MSNBC anchors for pointing a loaded gun he was carrying illegally in the face of a child.

So the Kyle Rittenhouse trial is wrapping up, but the people who engineered the political prosecution behind this are still in power. One of the main takeaways from all of this is that those people are now more brazen than they have ever been. They're just saying it out loud now.

Matt, is that you? Thought you were banned? Hahaha

Irongrip400

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 22349
  • Pan Germanism, Pax Britannica
A judge can overturn a jury verdict but it is rare and there needs to be very specific reasons for doing so.

Yeah I wasn’t sure if all of these things they’re reprimanding the prosecution for, would be grounds for that if the jury was decide before the judge made up his mind on whether or not to overturn. They’ve talked about mistrials and what not is why I asked.

Coach is Back!

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 61533
  • It’s All Bullshit

djliftsthings

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 1234
  • RIP Pellius
Matt, is that you? Thought you were banned? Hahaha

Matts banned too?

thats a shame  ::)
"

Straw Man

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 41012
  • one dwells in nirvana
Witness intimidation just like good Bolsheviks would do.

How were they intimidated?

No photos were taken, no words were spoken (as far as I know) and he had no contact with any of them

If you want to see some actual voter intimidation and interference I can give you a long list of instances from THE TRATOR over the the last 4 years.

If the fat little murderer is convicted I'm sure your side will send avalanche of death threats to those jurors

Seems reasonable given the recently history of Republican making death threats to various government official, many of whom are actually fellow Republicans.

Coach is Back!

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 61533
  • It’s All Bullshit
How were they intimidated?

No photos were taken, no words were spoken (as far as I know) and he had no contact with any of them

If you want to see some actual voter intimidation and interference I can give you a long list of instances from THE TRATOR over the the last 4 years.

If the fat little murderer is convicted I'm sure your side will send avalanche of death threats to those jurors

Seems reasonable given the recently history of Republican making death threats to various government official, many of whom are actually fellow Republicans.

Hahahahahahah…Trump owns you 🤣🤣🤣

djliftsthings

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 1234
  • RIP Pellius
How were they intimidated?

No photos were taken, no words were spoken (as far as I know) and he had no contact with any of them

If you want to see some actual voter intimidation and interference I can give you a long list of instances from THE TRATOR over the the last 4 years.

If the fat little murderer is convicted I'm sure your side will send avalanche of death threats to those jurors

Seems reasonable given the recently history of Republican making death threats to various government official, many of whom are actually fellow Republicans.

you actually do have Trump Derangement Syndrome or whatever its called. 

and its "traitor"

fuck did I shit the bed voting for you to stay on the board, I should have taken some time to read your posts
"

SOMEPARTS

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 16628
How were they intimidated?

No photos were taken, no words were spoken (as far as I know) and he had no contact with any of them

If you want to see some actual voter intimidation and interference I can give you a long list of instances from THE TRATOR over the the last 4 years.

If the fat little murderer is convicted I'm sure your side will send avalanche of death threats to those jurors

Seems reasonable given the recently history of Republican making death threats to various government official, many of whom are actually fellow Republicans.



Next tell me a story about how the mysterious pallets of bricks being delivered in this town is to build back better.  ::)

Megalodon

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 7699
Black Supremacist Maurice Freeland

The racist who tried to kick Kyle. Kyle spared his life even though the Black Supremacist was on a racist wilding against him.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10217197/Jump-kick-man-filmed-kicking-Kyle-Rittenhouse-head-revealed.html

If there's evidence that he engages in hand symbols, this Black Supremacist is the worst scum on earth.



Known Black supremacist hate symbol. They do this to signal Black Supremacy:



Here are the latest Black Supremacists beating an Asian woman on a train. It's funny to hear the slave trader/funding/shipping, etc.. media say that they were "fighting". A 5 on 1 assault is a "fight".



Soul Crusher

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 41757
  • Doesnt lie about lifting.
10 heinous lies about Kyle Rittenhouse debunked: Devine
By Miranda Devine
November 17, 2021 11:14pm  Updated



Of all the willful lies and omissions in the media’s coverage of the Steele dossier, Brian Sicknick, the Covington kids, Jussie Smollett, the Wuhan lab, Hunter Biden’s laptop and so on, nothing beats the evil propaganda peddled about Kyle Rittenhouse.

They try to make the Rittenhouse case about race, but it’s about class, punching down at the white working-class son of a single mother because they don’t see him as fully human, and it makes them feel good.

They lie about him because they can.

The central media narrative is that Kyle Rittenhouse is a white supremacist whose mother drove him across state lines with an AR-15 to shoot Black Lives Matter protesters. All lies.

“A white, Trump-supporting, MAGA-loving Blue Lives Matter social media partisan, 17 years old, picks up a gun, drives from one state to another with the intent to shoot people,” was typical from John Heilemann, MSNBC’s national affairs analyst.

So, let’s go through 10 lies about Rittenhouse, debunked in court:

1. He killed two black BLM protesters. All three of the men he shot in self-defense during violent riots in Kenosha on Aug. 25 last year were white.

2. He crossed state lines. He lived 20 miles from Kenosha in Antioch, Ill., with his mother and sisters. But his father, grandmother, aunt, uncle, cousins and best friend live in Kenosha. He had a job as a lifeguard in Kenosha and worked a shift on Aug. 25 before helping clean graffiti left by rioters at a local school. There, he and his friend were invited to join other adults who had been asked by the owners of a used car lot in Kenosha to guard the property after 100 cars had been torched the previous night, when police abandoned the town to rioters. Kyle took his gun to protect himself, since the rioters were violent and armed, including, for instance, Antifa medic Gaige Grosskreutz, who lunged at him with a loaded Glock pointed at his head before he was shot in the arm.

Kyle Rittenhouse carries a weapon as he walks along Sheridan Road in Kenosha, Wisconsin.
Kyle Rittenhouse rightfully defended the Kenosha community while legally possessing an AR-15 rifle.
Adam Rogan/The Journal Times via AP)
Footage shows Kyle Rittenhouse defending himself from angry rioters on Sheridan Road in Kenosha, Wisconsin during the riots.
Footage shows Kyle Rittenhouse defending himself from angry rioters on Sheridan Road in Kenosha, Wisconsin, during the riots.
YouTube

3. Rittenhouse took an AR-15 across state lines. Esquire accused him of “terrorist tourism.” False. His rifle was kept in a safe at his best friend’s stepfather’s house in Kenosha.

4. The gun was illegal. Wrong. Under Wisconsin law, he was entitled to possess the AR-15 as a 17-year-old. The judge dismissed the gun charge, which the prosecution never should have brought.

5. Rittenhouse’s mother drove him across state lines to the riot. Wendy Rittenhouse, 46, never went to Kenosha. She slept late the morning of Aug. 25 after working a 16-hour shift at a nursing home near her home in Antioch, she told the Chicago Tribune. Kyle had already gone to his job in Kenosha when she woke up.

Assistant District Attorney Thomas Binger holds Kyle Rittenhouse's gun as he gives the state's closing argument during the trial.
Assistant District Attorney Thomas Binger holds Kyle Rittenhouse’s gun as he gives the state’s closing argument during the trial.
Sean Krajacic/The Kenosha News via AP, Pool
6. He was an “active shooter” who took his gun to a riot looking for trouble. “A 17-year-old kid just running around shooting and killing protesters,” said MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough, “who drove across state lines with an AR-15 and started shooting people up.” On Friday, after evidence in court already had debunked his talking points, Scarborough called Rittenhouse a “self-appointed militia member … unloading 60 rounds.” When the defense called out the lie in closing arguments, Scarborough had the gall to tweet that he was “embarrassed” for the lawyer.

7. Rittenhouse is a “white supremacist,” as then-candidate Joe Biden labeled him in a tweet showing the teenager’s photograph. When White House press secretary Jen Psaki was asked to explain why recently, she slyly slimed Rittenhouse again, without naming him, as a “vigilante.”

A tear rolls down the cheek of Gaige Grosskreutz as he testifies about being shot in the right bicep, during the Kyle Rittenhouse trial.
Gaige Grosskreutz was not a “victim” after testifying that he provided aid as a trained medic to Black Lives Matter protesters amid the Kenosha riots.

Mark Hertzberg/Pool Photo via AP

In one story, the Intercept used the term “white supremacist” 16 times. The accusation has become holy writ, but there is zero evidence. The FBI scoured Kyle’s phone and found nothing about white supremacy or militias, the court heard. All they saw were pro-police, “Blue Lives Matter” posts from a kid who had been a police and fire department cadet, wanted to be a police officer or paramedic and once sat near the front of a Trump rally. That was enough for the media to brand him a white supremacist.

8. He “flashed white power signs” with Proud Boys. After spending three months in jail, Kyle was freed on $2 million bail two days after his 18th birthday last year, and went to a bar for a beer, with his mother and other adults, which is legal in Wisconsin. He posed for selfies with strangers at the bar, who the media say are Proud Boys, and was pictured making the OK sign with his thumb and forefinger. The false claim that this is a white supremacist sign comes from a 2017 hoax on the website 4chan, to punk liberals, who keep falling for it. Biden uses the gesture frequently. It was unwise to pose for the photo, but it does not mean Kyle is associated with white supremacists.

9. He wore surgical gloves “to cover his fingerprints.” This pearl was spread by Matthew Modine, another celebrity bigmouth. Kyle wore gloves because he was giving first aid to protesters. His face was bare, so he was hardly hiding.

Kyle RIttenhouse (left)
The liberal media and then-Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden smeared Kyle Rittenhouse as a “white supremacist.”


10. Judge Bruce Schroeder is a “Trumpy” racist biased toward the defense. This slur is based on the fact he would not let the prosecution use the term “victim” — common practice when the jury has not ruled on a case. He told a lame joke about Asian food for lunch being held up by the supply-chain crisis, and his phone’s ring tone sounds like a 1980s ditty played at Trump rallies. Ridiculous. In fact, Schroeder is a Democrat, has run as a Democrat for the Wisconsin Senate and was first appointed by a Democratic governor. Bias was also perceived in what the Chicago Tribune said was his “highly unusual” decision to allow Kyle to draw names randomly out of a container at the end of the trial to determine which 12 of the 18 jurors would decide his fate. It’s something this judge always does, he told the court.

Defendant Kyle Rittenhouse arrives after the lunch break at his trial in Kenosha Circuit Court, Friday, Nov. 12, 2021.
Kyle Rittenhouse proved he used his AR-15 for self-defense against hostile Black Lives Matter protesters during riots in Kenosha, Wisconsin.
Mark Hertzberg/Pool Photo via AP
On the second day of jury deliberations Wednesday, the judge railed against media distortions, although he seemed most aggrieved about attacks on his reputation, rather than Kyle’s. He threatened to stop trials from being televised, but that’s exactly the wrong solution.

Only because the public was able to hear the evidence for themselves did they become aware of the malevolent dishonesty of the media coverage, which has threatened a fair trial and ensured riots if Kyle is justly acquitted.

Coach is Back!

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 61533
  • It’s All Bullshit
https://www.breitbart.com/law-and-order/2021/11/19/rittenhouse-attorneys-prosecutors-knew-who-jump-kick-man-was/

Defense attorneys for 18-year-old defendant Kyle Rittenhouse told Fox News on Thursday that the mysterious “jump kick man” had been identified — and that prosecutors had known his identity all along, but had not brought him to testify.

“Jump kick man” was seen in video of the Kenosha riots on August 25, 2020, pursuing Rittenhouse and kicking him in the face as Rittenhouse attempted to flee to police and stumbled onto the ground. Rittenhouse fired his rifle twice at “jump kick man,” but missed.

One of the two charges of reckless endangerment that Rittenhouse now faces is a result of that altercation — one of five charges currently being considered by the jury — even though prosecutors never named the alleged victim.

Fox News reported that the man is named Maurice Freeland, and that he has a lengthy criminal record. According to Fox, citing defense attorneys, he told prosecutors he would testify in exchange for immunity, but they refused the deal:

The man known as “jump kick man” during the trial of Kyle Rittenhouse is 39-year-old Maurice Freeland of Wisconsin, defense attorneys revealed to Fox News Thursday.



Freeland approached the prosecution to testify in exchange for immunity for other charges, including a DUI, but they rejected the offer, according to a source familiar with the discussions.

Wisconsin arrest records show that Freeland has a lengthy criminal history, including charges for battery, disorderly conduct, possession of marijuana and other offenses this year.

They also apparently withheld his name from the defense, preventing Rittenhouse’s attorneys from calling him as a witness. That could prompt the defense to file a new motion for a mistrial, in addition to the two that are already pending with the judge.

Prosecutors have also faced criticism for charging Joshua Ziminski with arson. Ziminski allegedly fired the first shots that night, before Rittenhouse fired at his first assailant, but his pending testimony in his arson trial means that he could not be compelled to testify in the Rittenhouse trial because that might violate his Fifth Amendment rights against self-incrimination.


Coach is Back!

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 61533
  • It’s All Bullshit

Soul Crusher

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 41757
  • Doesnt lie about lifting.
Rittenhouse Attorneys: Prosecutors Knew Who ‘Jump Kick Man’ Was
Breitbart ^
Posted on 11/19/2021, 10:23:51

Defense attorneys for 18-year-old defendant Kyle Rittenhouse told Fox News on Thursday that the mysterious “jump kick man” had been identified — and that prosecutors had known his identity all along, but had not brought him to testify.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


Coach is Back!

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 61533
  • It’s All Bullshit
The prosecution showed cause for a mistrial so many times, I'm wondering if the judge isn't just waiting for the jury to comeback with some sort of guilty verdict from the coercion, then declare a mistrial w/prejudice because the evidence doesn't support any guilty verdict.