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THE TRAITOR LOSES AGAIN - AND DEMOCRACY WINS..AGAIN
« on: November 21, 2020, 04:35:53 PM »
You'd think THE TRAITOR'S lawyers would at least try to present some kind of proof when trying to throw out millions of votes

THE TRATOR'S lifelong strategy of just whining until everyone is exhausted and gives in isn't going to work.

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Federal judge dismisses Trump campaign Pennsylvania lawsuit

A US District Court judge Saturday dismissed a lawsuit by the Trump campaign trying to invalidate millions of Pennsylvania mail-in votes.

"Plaintiffs ask this Court to disenfranchise almost seven million voters. This Court has been unable to find any case in which a plaintiff has sought such a drastic remedy in the contest of an election, in terms of the sheer volume of votes asked to be invalidated," US District Court Judge Matthew Brann wrote Saturday.

Brann went on to admonish the Trump campaign lawyers for not presenting factual proof for seeking to invalidate so many votes in the key battleground state.


"One might expect that when seeking such a startling outcome, a plaintiff would come formidably armed with compelling legal arguments and factual proof of rampant corruption, such that this Court would have no option but to regrettably grant the proposed injunctive relief despite the impact it would have on such a large group of citizens. That has not happened," Brann added. "Instead, this Court has been presented with strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations, unpled in the operative complaint and unsupported by evidence."

"In the United States of America, this cannot justify the disenfranchisement of a single voter, let alone all the voters of its sixth most populated state. Our people, laws, and institutions demand more," the judge wrote." At bottom, Plaintiffs have failed to meet their burden to state a claim upon which relief may be granted."

The counties in the state are scheduled to certify their election results on Monday.
The judge said any further consideration of this issue "would unduly delay resolution of the issues" regarding certification.


https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/21/politics/federal-judge-dismisses-trump-pennsylvania-lawsuit/index.html

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Re: THE TRAITOR LOSES AGAIN - AND DEMOCRACY WINS..AGAIN
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2020, 04:50:02 PM »
ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzz  TDS   ::)

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Re: THE TRAITOR LOSES AGAIN - AND DEMOCRACY WINS..AGAIN
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2020, 04:53:02 PM »
ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz  TDS   ::)

yeah, facts are a real buzzkill aren't they ?

go back to your fantasies Trumptard. 

I'm sure they are much more comforting.

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Re: THE TRAITOR LOSES AGAIN - AND DEMOCRACY WINS..AGAIN
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2020, 05:00:26 PM »
Appointed by...

Barack Obama.

Wow, what a suprise!

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Re: THE TRAITOR LOSES AGAIN - AND DEMOCRACY WINS..AGAIN
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2020, 05:06:37 PM »
Appointed by...

Barack Obama.

Wow, what a suprise!

Even more suprising is that THE TRAITORS lawyers didn't provide any evidence

I guess they just figured they could whine their way to victory

Your hero is an alleged "man" who brags that he whines until he wins

Is that your philosophy in life too.  Is that what you teach your kids to do

It's weird that you admire someone who said this


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Re: THE TRAITOR LOSES AGAIN - AND DEMOCRACY WINS..AGAIN
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2020, 05:10:38 PM »
I thought Trumps legal team was focused on preserving the integrity of our electoral process and not on overturning the election at this point? He is still trying to get into office? Is that even legally possible at this point? Im totally confused.

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Re: THE TRAITOR LOSES AGAIN - AND DEMOCRACY WINS..AGAIN
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2020, 06:02:23 PM »
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Re: THE TRAITOR LOSES AGAIN - AND DEMOCRACY WINS..AGAIN
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2020, 12:02:15 AM »
I thought Trumps legal team was focused on preserving the integrity of our electoral process and not on overturning the election at this point? He is still trying to get into office? Is that even legally possible at this point? Im totally confused.

Ttump's team of idiots is completely lacking in integrity and they don't give a rat's ass about the electoral process. They conduct themselves just as their master has taught them to. Did you see the comic show they put on for the press last week? What a joke!

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Re: THE TRAITOR LOSES AGAIN - AND DEMOCRACY WINS..AGAIN
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2020, 10:16:57 AM »
On appeal and when and if he loses it’s on the SCOTUS numbnuts


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Re: THE TRAITOR LOSES AGAIN - AND DEMOCRACY WINS..AGAIN
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2020, 10:29:06 AM »
On appeal and when and if he loses it’s on the SCOTUS numbnuts

you should stick to being a phony "coach"
Do you even know the idiotic argument that THE TRAITOR'S so called lawyers have been trying to make (hint - it's why they are getting laughed out of court)

tell us why SCOTUS would see it any differently ?

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And Brann rejected the notion that counties who offered voters an opportunity to “cure” defective mail-in ballots should have those votes thrown out because other counties — those with a larger proportion of Trump voters — did not. The decision not to offer voters a chance to cure ballots was not made by the parties the Trump campaign sued, namely Boockvar and seven heavily Democratic counties.

In rejecting this claim, Brann shredded the Trump legal team’s mix-and-match approach to their argument.

“This claim, like Frankenstein’s Monster, has been haphazardly stitched together from two distinct theories in an attempt to avoid controlling precedent,” Brann wrote.

“Even assuming that they can establish that their right to vote has been denied, which they cannot, Plaintiffs seek to remedy the denial of their votes by invalidating the votes of millions of others. Rather than requesting that their votes be counted, they seek to discredit scores of other votes, but only for one race. This is simply not how the Constitution works,” the judge wrote.

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Re: THE TRAITOR LOSES AGAIN - AND DEMOCRACY WINS..AGAIN
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2020, 10:47:07 AM »
you should stick to being a phony "coach"
Do you even know the idiotic argument that THE TRAITOR'S so called lawyers have been trying to make (hint - it's why they are getting laughed out of court)

tell us why SCOTUS would see it any differently ?

Because they would more than likely hear the overwhelmingly concrete evidence and doing their job unlike the Obama appointee who wouldn't do his job and at least hear the evidence. That's the difference. Just another example of lazy, paid-off activist judges that refuse to do their jobs because, like you, they HATE this country

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Re: THE TRAITOR LOSES AGAIN - AND DEMOCRACY WINS..AGAIN
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2020, 11:00:41 AM »
Because they would more than likely hear the overwhelmingly concrete evidence and doing their job unlike the Obama appointee who wouldn't do his job and at least hear the evidence. That's the difference. Just another example of lazy, paid-off activist judges that refuse to do their jobs because, like you, they HATE this country

there is no "overwhelmingly concrete evidence"

it's pretty obvious that you can't understand the profoundly lame (and anti-democratic) argument that THE TRAITOR'S pathetic lawyers have been attempting to make in court

This is the problem with most Trumptard...you're literally fucking morons

Here's another Trumptard who actually understand the law to attempt to explain it to you again:

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"This is outrageous conduct by any lawyer," Christie said Sunday, noting Trump's attorneys have levied wild accusations in public but have not, so far, raised them in court, where there are consequences for providing false information.

"They allege fraud outside the courtroom, but when they go inside the courtroom, they don't plead fraud and they don't argue fraud," he said.


"Listen," Christie concluded, "I have been a supporter of the President's. I voted for him twice, but elections have consequences, and we cannot continue to act as if something happened here that didn't happen."

"If you are unwilling to come forward and present the evidence, it must mean the evidence doesn't exist," he went on. "The country is what has to matter the most. As much as I'm a strong Republican and I love my party, it's the country that has to come first."



https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/22/politics/chris-christie-donald-trump-election/index.html





https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/22/chris-christie-tells-trump-its-time-to-end-legal-fights-over-election.html

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Re: THE TRAITOR LOSES AGAIN - AND DEMOCRACY WINS..AGAIN
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2020, 11:30:18 AM »
Appointed by...

Barack Obama.

Wow, what a suprise!

even more  surprising is that he is a lifelong conservative Republican who was recommended for the job by Republican Senator Pat Toomey as part of a paired nomination with a recommendation by Democratic Senator Bob Casey

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Re: THE TRAITOR LOSES AGAIN - AND DEMOCRACY WINS..AGAIN
« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2020, 12:09:33 PM »
Because they would more than likely hear the overwhelmingly concrete evidence and doing their job unlike the Obama appointee who wouldn't do his job and at least hear the evidence. That's the difference. Just another example of lazy, paid-off activist judges that refuse to do their jobs because, like you, they HATE this country

Problem is when it comes right down to it there is no evidence.

Judge Brann complained, the Trump campaign provided only “strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations” that were “unsupported by evidence.”

Mr. Giuliani began his presentation at the court hearing by accusing the Democratic Party of committing “nationwide fraud” in Pennsylvania and at least nine other states, under questioning by Judge Brann, he quickly backtracked and acknowledged he was making no such claims in this case.

“This is not a fraud case,” he (Giuliani) said.

Given the almost total lack of evidence that the Trump campaign provided, Judge Brann seemed incredulous that he was being asked to toss the results of an entire state’s election.



https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/21/us/politics/pennsylvania-trump-court-ballots.html

Giuliani in Public: ‘It’s a Fraud.’

Giuliani in Court: ‘This Is Not a Fraud Case.’


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/18/us/politics/trump-giuliani-voter-fraud.html

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Re: THE TRAITOR LOSES AGAIN - AND DEMOCRACY WINS..AGAIN
« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2020, 02:06:01 PM »
Problem is when it comes right down to it there is no evidence.

Judge Brann complained, the Trump campaign provided only “strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations” that were “unsupported by evidence.”

Mr. Giuliani began his presentation at the court hearing by accusing the Democratic Party of committing “nationwide fraud” in Pennsylvania and at least nine other states, under questioning by Judge Brann, he quickly backtracked and acknowledged he was making no such claims in this case.

“This is not a fraud case,” he (Giuliani) said.

Given the almost total lack of evidence that the Trump campaign provided, Judge Brann seemed incredulous that he was being asked to toss the results of an entire state’s election.



https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/21/us/politics/pennsylvania-trump-court-ballots.html

Giuliani in Public: ‘It’s a Fraud.’

Giuliani in Court: ‘This Is Not a Fraud Case.’


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/18/us/politics/trump-giuliani-voter-fraud.html

This is what Trumptard will NEVER understand because they see these Giuliani LYING on TV and that's all they know. 

Even when they are given the facts (like our phony "coach") they still either don't get it or just refuse to belive it.   

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Re: THE TRAITOR LOSES AGAIN - AND DEMOCRACY WINS..AGAIN
« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2020, 02:25:54 PM »
This is what Trumptard will NEVER understand because they see these Giuliani LYING on TV and that's all they know. 

Even when they are given the facts (like our phony "coach") they still either don't get it or just refuse to belive it.

As long as Trump continues to pretend he won and posting this on Twitter almost daily, his base will agree with him, which is exactly what he wants. However, there appears to be a flaw in his plan. Republican congresspeople are beginning to publicly speak out about what they've probably been privately saying all along and that is that Biden won the election and Trump needs to accept it.

Trump also hopes he can make the transition and Biden's presidency as difficult as possible. If Biden fails over the next 4 years, Trump believes he's got a chance at getting elected once again.

This is a sad, sad time for the U.S. Many of us thought the last four years were pretty bad constitutionally, but Trump's ridiculous charade at the end of this game is worse. Maybe having Covid messed with his head or the treatments he had did. Then again, there is the possibility that he's always been a nut job. However, he is the consummate Getbigger which explains a lot.

The New York Times
By Nicholas Fandos
Nov. 20, 2020

Senator Lamar Alexander, Republican of Tennessee, said that the Trump administration should cooperate with President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s transition “if there is any chance whatsoever that Joe Biden will be the next president.”

By and large, those notes of dissent and others came from Republicans who are already retiring at year’s end or have no immediate plans to face voters, like Senators Mitt Romney of Utah and Ben Sasse of Nebraska.

“We’re going to have an orderly transfer from this administration to the next one,” Mr. McConnell said this week. “What we all say about it is, frankly, irrelevant.”

“While the president has the right to legitimate legal challenges, responsible citizens cannot let the reckless actions by him and his legal team stand,” Bob Corker, a former Republican senator from Tennessee who retired in 2018, wrote on Twitter on Friday. “Republicans have an obligation when the subject is of such importance to challenge demagoguery and patently false statements.”

Representative Francis Rooney of Florida, a Republican who is retiring this year, lamented in an interview how many of his colleagues were “just hiding out” rather than speaking out against Mr. Trump.

And Senator Susan Collins of Maine, who was among the first Republicans to recognize Mr. Biden’s victory, said in a statement on Friday that there was “a right way and a wrong way for the incumbent president to pursue his rights to contest what he perceives as election irregularities.”

“The wrong way is to attempt to pressure state election officials,” she said. “That undermines the public’s faith in our election results without evidence and court rulings to support the allegations.”

Senator Joni Ernst of Iowa, a member of Mr. McConnell’s leadership team, on Thursday called some of the election fraud claims “absolutely outrageous,”

Ms. Granger, who was re-elected to represent a conservative district based in Fort Worth, was more direct: She told CNN that she had “great concerns” about what Mr. Trump was doing.

“I think that it’s time to move on,” she said.

Representative Paul Mitchell of Michigan, who is retiring, wrote in an op-ed in The Detroit News that Mr. Trump’s “continued refusal to acknowledge the election results risks corroding our democracy by literally hollowing it out.”


The Hill

BY JUSTINE COLEMAN - 11/22/20 01:22 PM EST

Pressure grows from GOP for Trump to recognize Biden election win


Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R), who has been a Trump ally, labeled the conduct of the Trump campaign’s legal team “a national embarrassment”

Rep. Fred Upton (R-Mich.) also requested the process to “move forward” despite Trump’s objection to Biden’s win in his state, saying on CNN’s “Inside Politics” that “the voters have spoken.”

Former national security adviser John Bolton labeled “inexcusable” post-election behavior.

"The Republican Party is not going to be saved by hiding in a spider hole,” Bolton told CNN’s “State of the Union.”

Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan (R) told CNN’s “State of the Union” that he’s “embarrassed that more people” in his party “aren’t speaking up” against Trump’s denial of the election results.

“We were the most respected country with respect to elections,” Hogan said. “And now, we’re beginning to look like we’re a banana republic. It’s time for them to stop the nonsense. It just gets more bizarre every single day.”

Sen. Kevin Cramer (R-N.D.) told NBC’s “Meet the Press” that he believes Trump has the right to challenge the election results through the legal process but added it is “past time to start a transition” to the Biden administration.

Other Republicans broke with Trump before Sunday, including Sen. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.) who on Saturday congratulated Biden and Vice President-elect Kamala Harris after the federal judge dismissed the Trump campaign’s lawsuit in his home state.

On Friday, House Republican Conference Chairwoman Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) implied that the campaign needed to provide proof of fraud or concede.

“If the President cannot prove these claims or demonstrate that they would change the election result, he should fulfill his oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States by respecting the sanctity of our electoral process,” she said.




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Re: THE TRAITOR LOSES AGAIN - AND DEMOCRACY WINS..AGAIN
« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2020, 02:33:58 PM »
As long as Trump continues to pretend he won and posting this on Twitter almost daily, his base will agree with him, which is exactly what he wants. However, there appears to be a flaw in his plan. Republican congresspeople are beginning to publicly speak out about what they've probably been privately saying all along and that is that Biden won the election and Trump needs to accept it.

Trump also hopes he can make the transition and Biden's presidency as difficult as possible. If Biden fails over the next 4 years, Trump believes he's got a chance at getting elected once again.

This is a sad, sad time for the U.S. Many of us thought the last four years were pretty bad constitutionally, but Trump's ridiculous charade at the end of this game is worse. Maybe having Covid messed with his head or the treatments he had did. Then again, there is the possibility that he's always been a nut job. However, he is the consummate Getbigger which explains a lot.

Trump has just doing what he's always done which is to put his perceived personal benefit ahead of what is good for the country

In fact he has no problem harming the country if he thinks it will benefit him

That is why he is human scum (a phrase I borrowed from Trump which he used to describe his fellow Republican and fellow citizen) and and absolute TRAITOR

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Re: THE TRAITOR LOSES AGAIN - AND DEMOCRACY WINS..AGAIN
« Reply #17 on: November 22, 2020, 03:57:03 PM »
The fact that you got Rudy running the show tells you all you need to know about the lawsuits.

So far it's been one set back after another and the little Trumpturds keep saying... "oh wait and see..."   ::)

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Re: THE TRAITOR LOSES AGAIN - AND DEMOCRACY WINS..AGAIN
« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2020, 04:04:16 PM »
The fact that you got Rudy running the show tells you all you need to know about the lawsuits.

So far it's been one set back after another and the little Trumpturds keep saying... "oh wait and see..."   ::)

yep...

you're "king of the world"....






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Re: THE TRAITOR LOSES AGAIN - AND DEMOCRACY WINS..AGAIN
« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2020, 05:51:43 PM »
The fact that you got Rudy running the show tells you all you need to know about the lawsuits.

So far it's been one set back after another and the little Trumpturds keep saying... "oh wait and see..."   ::)

I'm reminded of the scene in a Monty Python movie where the knights are sword fighting. Every time one knight deals a mutilating  blow to the other, he responds with "that didn't hurt!" Cuts off an arm... "Flesh wound!" Trump supporters are that knight after each setback. Georgia certifies the vote after Trumpsters think they won't.. Flesh wound.. Court after court after court throws out the lawsuits for lack of evidence "All part of the plan".... it's actually getting pretty sad. I hope Coach re reads his posts 6 months from now and has some kind of epiphany 

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Re: THE TRAITOR LOSES AGAIN - AND DEMOCRACY WINS..AGAIN
« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2020, 05:57:56 PM »
Every day I'm amazed by the hypocrisy of the left. Running their mouths totally the opposite of what they've been saying the last 4 years. Suddenly NOW the elections can't be rigged, altered, manipulated.....even though they spent the last 4 years screaming like little girls throwing a temper tantrum about Russia rigging the election. It's amazing that the fucking retards can't see their own hypocrisy despite being shown daily.
Oh well, retards will retard.
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: THE TRAITOR LOSES AGAIN - AND DEMOCRACY WINS..AGAIN
« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2020, 06:15:52 PM »
Every day I'm amazed by the hypocrisy of the left. Running their mouths totally the opposite of what they've been saying the last 4 years. Suddenly NOW the elections can't be rigged, altered, manipulated.....even though they spent the last 4 years screaming like little girls throwing a temper tantrum about Russia rigging the election. It's amazing that the fucking retards can't see their own hypocrisy despite being shown daily.
Oh well, retards will retard.

Speaking for myself, I was under the impression Russia meddled in our election. I don't know the full extent but I think its irrefutable Russia used social media to push forward false narratives to swing the pendulum towards Trump. I have also said that their success if any in swaying votes, rest solely on our shoulders. We have grown lazy, maybe always were, in doing any research and will accept any meme or headline that supports our belief without the least bit of fact checking. I have never suggested they toyed with voting machines or ballots. I believe the results from 2016 are an accurate reflection of the votes. Clinton gave her concession speech the next day.

Fast forward to now. Its been 2 weeks since the election was called by every major news source, the same ones we used in 2016, Trump has produced no evidence to support his claims, every court has shot him down and election officials have performed recounts and audits and the Republican officials say the votes are valid and no evidence the numbers don't accurately reflect the peoples will. Trump still has not conceded and is continuing to create discord and division. Can you see a difference?


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Re: THE TRAITOR LOSES AGAIN - AND DEMOCRACY WINS..AGAIN
« Reply #22 on: November 22, 2020, 06:25:42 PM »
Can you see a difference?
No. You pieces of shit and your leaders promoted division, violence, coup attempts, "cancel culture", etc, etc... for the last 4 years. NOW you think Republicans should accept results after 2 weeks and look for unity? You don't want unity, you want compliance. Which I'd expect from a power hungry Nazi cop like yourself.
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: THE TRAITOR LOSES AGAIN - AND DEMOCRACY WINS..AGAIN
« Reply #23 on: November 22, 2020, 07:24:18 PM »
No. You pieces of shit and your leaders promoted division, violence, coup attempts, "cancel culture", etc, etc... for the last 4 years. NOW you think Republicans should accept results after 2 weeks and look for unity? You don't want unity, you want compliance. Which I'd expect from a power hungry Nazi cop like yourself.


and...there we are..... :)

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Re: THE TRAITOR LOSES AGAIN - AND DEMOCRACY WINS..AGAIN
« Reply #24 on: November 22, 2020, 07:27:02 PM »
No. You pieces of shit and your leaders promoted division, violence, coup attempts, "cancel culture", etc, etc... for the last 4 years. NOW you think Republicans should accept results after 2 weeks and look for unity? You don't want unity, you want compliance. Which I'd expect from a power hungry Nazi cop like yourself.

Meltdown.  Sounds like someone is "going through things".