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Re: Should I buy a $4000 espresso machine?
« Reply #25 on: November 26, 2020, 08:24:36 AM »
So, yes, I have been looking for a new coffee maker myself.

Was going to go with a Chemex style model, then after researching, decided it was too much work.

Will go with aeropress or French press.
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Re: Should I buy a $4000 espresso machine?
« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2020, 08:43:06 AM »
Tbh I never even heard of a Chemex. Sounds impressively labritorical. I love a graduated beaker. Gonna look into that.

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Re: Should I buy a $4000 espresso machine?
« Reply #27 on: November 26, 2020, 08:53:30 AM »
Tbh I never even heard of a Chemex. Sounds impressively labritorical. I love a graduated beaker. Gonna look into that.

I saw it in a Black Rifle Coffee ad and it looked cool.

It IS impressively labritorical, however it's just basic pouring over grounds.  But then I read "it takes some practice to get it right" and determined that was not something I was willing to put time into to perfect.
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Re: Should I buy a $4000 espresso machine?
« Reply #28 on: November 26, 2020, 09:11:43 AM »
Heard that dude on Rogan awhile back. Little heavy on the "we died for a lie over there" narrative, as I recall. A breakdown of the pluses and minuses of various means of preparing coffee wouldn't have been too weird but that's Meandering Joe for ya.

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Re: Should I buy a $4000 espresso machine?
« Reply #29 on: November 26, 2020, 09:23:37 AM »
Q: Should I buy a $4000 espresso machine?

A: No.

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Re: Should I buy a $4000 espresso machine?
« Reply #30 on: November 26, 2020, 09:24:09 AM »
This dream is for you,
So pay the price.
Make one dream come true.
You only live twice.

Best Bond song ever.

That and the theme from "Goldfinger" are my two favorite Bond title themes of all time as their movies are too.  I alternate between the two. Nancy Sinatra and Shirley Bassey are two gorgeous ladies with talent on loan from God. 

Now back on topic...One of my sister-in-laws has a small espresso machine and I was going to get her a new one but I cannot afford one of these and so I continue to look around.  I think Best Buy had one for a few  hundred a while back.  I am not wealthy by any means unless you use the Obama/Biden scale in which if you have a paying job, you need to pay more. ;D

Any recommendations for a working class man such as I in the neighborhood of $300?  I doubt it but I don't know anything about this stuff.  Regardless, nice thread topic and thanks for putting it up!

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Re: Should I buy a $4000 espresso machine?
« Reply #31 on: November 26, 2020, 09:25:48 AM »
Q: Should I buy a $4000 espresso machine?

A: No.

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Re: Should I buy a $4000 espresso machine?
« Reply #32 on: November 26, 2020, 09:30:04 AM »
Q: Should I buy a $4000 espresso machine?

A: No.

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Re: Should I buy a $4000 espresso machine?
« Reply #33 on: November 26, 2020, 09:33:40 AM »






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Re: Should I buy a $4000 espresso machine?
« Reply #34 on: November 26, 2020, 09:56:58 AM »
Why spend your money on that garbage.   If you want something that gives you sophistication, elegance, a product that will last for decades, and honestly something that a real man would actually use then get yourself a manual expresso machine.  It takes a lot more work to master and if you're serving up a party then you'll get a decent arm pump.   The Elecktra S1 Caso is my pick.  Chrome and Brass and a majestic bird on the back for style.  Its not just an expresso machine, its a piece of artwork....and a decent arm trainer


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Re: Should I buy a $4000 espresso machine?
« Reply #35 on: November 26, 2020, 09:57:25 AM »
Live And Let Die (1973)

It’s very early in the morning and Bond is tucked up in his London apartment with a lovely Italian agent, when the doorbell rings. It’s M. Three ‘00’ agents have been killed in the last 24 hours and Bond must establish a connection.

“Coffee, Sir?”  he says, and proceeds to his La Pavoni espresso machine. He grinds the beans, connects the portafilter and brews, by pulling the lever, forcing the hot water through the coffee.  Pulling the lever, adjusting the controls, frothing the milk, the steaming … the whole operation takes a while and looks like priming an engine. It’s quite a ceremony. “Is that all it does?” quips M sarcastically, as Bond gives him the cup.

You only live twice...If this purchase satisfies you and is financially within your reach (read: does NOT put you in financial straits, etc.), think WWB..JB..D and then do as you desire, sir.

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Re: Should I buy a $4000 espresso machine?
« Reply #36 on: November 26, 2020, 10:13:38 AM »
Look for one that’s 10,000 dollars or more

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Re: Should I buy a $4000 espresso machine?
« Reply #37 on: November 26, 2020, 10:26:33 AM »
Why spend your money on that garbage.   If you want something that gives you sophistication, elegance, a product that will last for decades, and honestly something that a real man would actually use then get yourself a manual expresso machine.  It takes a lot more work to master and if you're serving up a party then you'll get a decent arm pump.   The Elecktra S1 Caso is my pick.  Chrome and Brass and a majestic bird on the back for style.  Its not just an expresso machine, its a piece of artwork....and a decent arm trainer




Hum, $1600 - 1700. Spend the leftover $2000 or so on an Abbo to run it.....

Vince might be on to something.

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Re: Should I buy a $4000 espresso machine?
« Reply #38 on: November 26, 2020, 10:28:48 AM »
That and the theme from "Goldfinger" are my two favorite Bond title themes of all time as their movies are too.  I alternate between the two. Nancy Sinatra and Shirley Bassey are two gorgeous ladies with talent on loan from God. 

Now back on topic...One of my sister-in-laws has a small espresso machine and I was going to get her a new one but I cannot afford one of these and so I continue to look around.  I think Best Buy had one for a few  hundred a while back.  I am not wealthy by any means unless you use the Obama/Biden scale in which if you have a paying job, you need to pay more. ;D

Any recommendations for a working class man such as I in the neighborhood of $300?  I doubt it but I don't know anything about this stuff.  Regardless, nice thread topic and thanks for putting it up!

I'm still learning myself but am comfortable with my previous recommendation of an affordable grinder, so they can work from whole beans, and a french press. Espresso is high octane stuff, and it's generally not suited to American tastes outside of espresso people circles. I know you said she has an espresso maker but if it's a pod style (admittedly, I'm uninitiated), it might put out something more like a french press style than an espresso. I might be totally wrong but I can't envision how poddies can create backpressure (it's a whole big thing but basically beans ground to a suitable particle size and compressed into a uniformly impassable 'puck' will permit a flowthrough rate of roughly 1 gram of water per second with a 9 bar backpressure, or in American you get a 1 oz espresso from 130 psi of water in about 30 seconds). It could be worth tasting what she makes and comparing it to a 'straight double shot' (ain't nobody order singles) from the local coffee bar. Then you'll know for sure what she's in the market for.

On the building site, I use a Smeg. Smeg espresso machine. Really unfortunate name. It's as if they did no market research at all. Honestly can't remember what I paid but it's not horrible. Dunno what you'd call it but it has no boiler, or maybe a boiler big enough for the cup being demnded. And lemme tell ya, the guys on site have worked it over. It won't impress coffee snobs but looks like it might be on budget. Google says 450 kangaroo dollars which is probably about 300 freedom dollars. A little lever on the side ejects steam (1 time out of 20 needs a reset and another run at it, not letting the reservoir run dry helps it). Again, not coffee snob frothing, with considerations of ideal bubble size and froth duration etc, but it froths. Comparable models which don't say SMEG in big bold letters (which is probably for the best) might be available.

Further up the line are true single boilers, then heat exchanging single boilers aka HX, then double boiler units, but your into.dollars with HX and doubles. I feel ya. Not a rich dude either. I'm just really into good coffee.

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Re: Should I buy a $4000 espresso machine?
« Reply #39 on: November 26, 2020, 10:43:17 AM »
Scott,

I forgot all about machines like the one Vince posted. They're basically a boiler from which you draw by hand pump. Totally valid choice. Pricey from what I've seen but affordable models should be out there. If they're not, let's make them. It's a very basic assembly so surely someone is doing them cheaply, even if they're not as bling as that one. Drawback is no milk frothing, but you can't have everything.

Thanks Melvin, I forgot all about the old school manual style, even after mentioning the Londiniums and Slayers. That's basicly what they are, with some weight so they don't slide around, some bling, and probably a circuituated PID temp control.

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Re: Should I buy a $4000 espresso machine?
« Reply #40 on: November 26, 2020, 10:47:52 AM »
Looks like something XFagtor would claim to own and GoFagIt would come over and operate.

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Re: Should I buy a $4000 espresso machine?
« Reply #41 on: November 26, 2020, 10:51:45 AM »






This fuckin guy!

Just when I thought it was safe to not have been in the squat rack recently. Shit!

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Re: Should I buy a $4000 espresso machine?
« Reply #42 on: November 26, 2020, 11:54:42 AM »
LOL   ;D

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Re: Should I buy a $4000 espresso machine?
« Reply #43 on: November 26, 2020, 12:26:19 PM »
Looking at the Lelit Bianca. Probably a Eureka grinder.

Are there coffee nuts here?

I use a Lelit Kate with the built in grinder. Then i paid the guy who makes my coffee at the local cafe to come over and show me what to do.

Spent around 1,500 2 months ago and it's one of thr best purchases i have made.

I buy my beans from the local cafe. My coffee gives a pretty wicked buzz on a double shot whereas most places don't give me the buzz.

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Re: Should I buy a $4000 espresso machine?
« Reply #44 on: November 26, 2020, 12:51:04 PM »
How important is coffee to you, and how is the lifespan on these things? If you like it, buy it, just make sure you'll really enjoy the thing. I see $4000 on a espresso machine, and I think "Egads!", but if you figure in the cost of a good espresso, etc.... once or a few times a day, it will pay for itself in a few years.
The lifespan of the thing better be as long as his.

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Re: Should I buy a $4000 espresso machine?
« Reply #45 on: November 26, 2020, 12:57:28 PM »
Hum, $1600 - 1700. Spend the leftover $2000 or so on an Abbo to run it.....

Vince might be on to something.

Lmfao.

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Re: Should I buy a $4000 espresso machine?
« Reply #46 on: November 26, 2020, 01:13:06 PM »
Why spend your money on that garbage.   If you want something that gives you sophistication, elegance, a product that will last for decades, and honestly something that a real man would actually use then get yourself a manual expresso machine.  It takes a lot more work to master and if you're serving up a party then you'll get a decent arm pump.   The Elecktra S1 Caso is my pick.  Chrome and Brass and a majestic bird on the back for style.  Its not just an expresso machine, its a piece of artwork....and a decent arm trainer




This is pretty cool Melvin.

I may just buy one of these and report back on how it works.

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Re: Should I buy a $4000 espresso machine?
« Reply #47 on: November 26, 2020, 01:37:25 PM »
Looking at the Lelit Bianca. Probably a Eureka grinder.

Are there coffee nuts here?


YES , but you need to roast your own coffee .

Roasting aroma is seductive !.

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Re: Should I buy a $4000 espresso machine?
« Reply #48 on: November 26, 2020, 01:42:38 PM »
How are the Lavazza espresso machines?

Molto bene, perffeto !.

Traveled 6 X by Malpensa airport , from & to Milan !.

1 X visited Lawazza factory , amazing place. Factory is close to the airport.

There is no machine like double eagle bronze copper 1 (around $ 22k) , single eagle looks good too.


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Re: Should I buy a $4000 espresso machine?
« Reply #49 on: November 26, 2020, 02:40:10 PM »
Or buy 1 share of amazon at 3100

And in a year or so you can buy two machines  :-\

Or you can drink a nice big warm bucket of my


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