Author Topic: Is Hunter LABRADA better than Dorian already ??  (Read 16150 times)

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Re: Is Hunter LABRADA better than Dorian already ??
« Reply #50 on: November 27, 2020, 03:45:57 PM »
Hunter is taller than his Dad:










Lee is very short, like 5’3 these days

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Re: Is Hunter LABRADA better than Dorian already ??
« Reply #51 on: November 27, 2020, 04:08:44 PM »
It just puts Dorians claims of "no one worked harder than me" into perspective, Dorian probably trained just hard enough, he got it right, but to claim no one outworked him just isn't true

Day in, day out, year after year, Dorian probably was NOT outworked or equaled by anyone.  It's probably safer to say that he was the most disciplined, tunnel visioned pro bodybuilder of all time.  For 12 weeks out of a year, there are guys that work just as hard, maybe harder.  But nobody lived it like Dorian did around the clock for over a decade.  Hunter Labrada will eventually make a run at the winners circle ie The Mr. Olympia.  As long as he doesn't over do things and gets peak week down pat.  OP needs to hold off on any comparisons to the Great Dorian Yates.  For now.

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Re: Is Hunter LABRADA better than Dorian already ??
« Reply #52 on: November 27, 2020, 04:26:51 PM »
His mom must be so joyful to witness her son mashing his organs and health with all the drugs and dieting tomfoolery.

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Re: Is Hunter LABRADA better than Dorian already ??
« Reply #53 on: November 27, 2020, 04:37:42 PM »
Dorian hast to be the most overrated Mr. O of all time

One of the most stupid posts ever made  on here the only thing hunter can do is lick dorians asshole

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Re: Is Hunter LABRADA better than Dorian already ??
« Reply #54 on: November 27, 2020, 04:38:51 PM »
I don't mean Hunter's muscle is in fact any more fake than Dorian's, what I'm saying is that Dorian projects a certain something that most recognize as superior. It's beyond sheer size and measurements. Dorian looked like granite and his skin got real thin. It's genetic. Moreover, Dorian had pleasing proportions, nice leg to torso proportions, more ideal height compared to Hunter and so on. All genetically determined.

Dorian beat bigger guys such as Nasser. Why? It's beyond mathematical formulas.

I saw Dorian up close in 1995. He looked like an animal. Very wide. He weighed 295 at the time. He was lean at this weight. It was his leanness that made him stand out.

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Re: Is Hunter LABRADA better than Dorian already ??
« Reply #55 on: November 27, 2020, 04:57:31 PM »
I saw Dorian up close in 1995. He looked like an animal. Very wide. He weighed 295 at the time. He was lean at this weight. It was his leanness that made him stand out.

royalty would you agree that anyone on here, that think hunter is in the same league as dorian is basically a dumb asshole with virtually no knowledge of great bodybuilders from average bodybuilders.

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Re: Is Hunter LABRADA better than Dorian already ??
« Reply #56 on: November 27, 2020, 05:17:59 PM »
I saw Dorian up close in 1995. He looked like an animal. Very wide. He weighed 295 at the time. He was lean at this weight. It was his leanness that made him stand out.

I was backstage with him in in May of 1996.  He was guest posing at the Jr. Michigan Championship.  He said he was 310lbs that day.  He had abs.  One truly has to see him up close to grasp his true greatness.  Later that year I saw Levrone, Dillett and Francois guest post at different contests in Michigan.  They actually left me feeling disappointed after seeing Dorian. 

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Re: Is Hunter LABRADA better than Dorian already ??
« Reply #57 on: November 27, 2020, 05:24:40 PM »
I was backstage with him in in May of 1996.  He was guest posing at the Jr. Michigan Championship.  He said he was 310lbs that day.  He had abs.  One truly has to see him up close to grasp his true greatness.  Later that year I saw Levrone, Dillett and Francois guest post at different contests in Michigan.  They actually left me feeling disappointed after seeing Dorian.

Abraham  why do some of these idiots on here think hunter is even in the same league as Dorian

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Re: Is Hunter LABRADA better than Dorian already ??
« Reply #58 on: November 27, 2020, 05:33:34 PM »
I was backstage with him in in May of 1996.  He was guest posing at the Jr. Michigan Championship.  He said he was 310lbs that day.  He had abs.  One truly has to see him up close to grasp his true greatness.  Later that year I saw Levrone, Dillett and Francois guest post at different contests in Michigan.  They actually left me feeling disappointed after seeing Dorian.

I saw him guest pose that year at 300+.

He looked like a cartoon.
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Re: Is Hunter LABRADA better than Dorian already ??
« Reply #59 on: November 27, 2020, 05:38:15 PM »
royalty would you agree that anyone on here, that think hunter is in the same league as dorian is basically a dumb asshole with virtually no knowledge of great bodybuilders from average bodybuilders.

Yes! Hunter is not in Dorian’s league in any way, shape, or form.

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Re: Is Hunter LABRADA better than Dorian already ??
« Reply #60 on: November 27, 2020, 05:43:12 PM »
Yes! Hunter is not in Dorian’s league in any way, shape, or form.

Exactly he hasn’t even placed in a second tier show I bet if his daddy wasn’t a sponsor he would

Place lower

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Re: Is Hunter LABRADA better than Dorian already ??
« Reply #61 on: November 27, 2020, 05:55:21 PM »
I think Hunter will be a legit Olympia threat in the years to come.  He has no weaknesses other than nailing his conditioning.  No reason for the masses to shit on him just because the OP started a retarded thread.

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Re: Is Hunter LABRADA better than Dorian already ??
« Reply #62 on: November 27, 2020, 06:02:18 PM »
I think Hunter will be a legit Olympia threat in the years to come.  He has no weaknesses other than nailing his conditioning.  No reason for the masses to shit on him just because the OP started a retarded thread.

Hunter has had a tough life all he has had to do is inject needles in his butt play video games

Hype shitty supplements that don’t work while his daddy pays his bills he is truly an inspiration

For all getbiggers !

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Re: Is Hunter LABRADA better than Dorian already ??
« Reply #63 on: November 27, 2020, 06:30:31 PM »
I saw Dorian up close in 1995. He looked like an animal. Very wide. He weighed 295 at the time. He was lean at this weight. It was his leanness that made him stand out.

He had a good contact in Pfizer’s plant in Cork, Ireland. So I hear.

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Re: Is Hunter LABRADA better than Dorian already ??
« Reply #64 on: November 27, 2020, 07:22:57 PM »
I think Hunter will be a legit Olympia threat in the years to come.  He has no weaknesses other than nailing his conditioning.  No reason for the masses to shit on him just because the OP started a retarded thread.
he has a torn pec already he is toast.

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Re: Is Hunter LABRADA better than Dorian already ??
« Reply #65 on: November 27, 2020, 07:26:15 PM »
Hunter Arnold had a tough life all he had to do is inject needles in his butt play video gamessmoke weed, sleep and fuck Betty Weider.

Hype shitty supplements that don’t work while his daddyUncle Schmoe Weider pays his bills he is truly an inspiration

For all getbiggers !

See how that works?

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Re: Is Hunter LABRADA better than Dorian already ??
« Reply #66 on: November 27, 2020, 08:42:45 PM »
Here's why I disagree:


https://imgur.com/l71hsUZ

- Dorian's arm is longer.
- Dorian's arm is nevertheless more muscular, substantially thicker.  It's called the "Side Tricep," and he's absolutely owning Labrada Jr. on tricep size and shape.
- Dorian has better conditioning overall.
- Dorian has a more aesthetic waistline.
- Dorian has larger and substantially more defined calves.
- Dorian's legs are longer and his physique is overall more balanced.  Labrada has the proportions of a short man.

The one point that I'll concede to you - and one that stood out to me too when I inspected the photo more closely - is that Dorian's arms are longer, and with similar thickness per inch of his arm length, Dorian clearly wins that pose for what it is, which is the side triceps shot.

Dorian's arms are just as thick, if not slightly more thick [again, judging from THAT photo comparison, which was obviously selected to favour Hunter], and Dorian's arms are longer, making his increased thickness compared to Hunter even more impressive.

That being said, to your other points, I'm not so sure.  Yes, Dorian's calves are better [much bigger] than Hunter's calves, but is that really apparent in that photo comparison?  I would say no - they look roughly the same size.  I would say that Dorian's calves look bigger in that shot, but not by much.  Again, we are comparing a photo of Dorian to a zoomed in photo of Hunter that is height-adjusted to make Hunter look bigger and compare more favourably to Dorian when he actually wouldn't, had both bodybuilders compared that pose on the same day [possible in the future if either Marty McFly or Marty Champions invents a time machine].

I agree with your other comments in that Dorian IS better than Hunter in the areas you specified - I'm merely saying that, aside from the arms/triceps shot in particular, that Dorian's advantages over Hunter are really not that apparent in that photo comparison, and again, that is because the comparison was created to make Hunter compare favourably to Dorian.

So to be clear - I'm agreeing with you that Dorian is better, and that his arms/triceps in that shot are better [longer with just as much thickness per inch, if not more thickness] than Hunter's, but everything else is pretty close, due to the manipulated nature of that photo comparison.

No knock on your views - I'm just saying that in this manipulated photo comparison, Hunter is pretty close to Dorian.  If they actually posed side by side on those same days [through time travel, cloning, or magic], you would see that Dorian is very much ahead of Hunter.

And I'm not knocking Hunter either - he is an excellent bodybuilder.  He has the symmetry genetics of his father, but is 5'9.5", which is a great height for bodybuilding.  I seem to recall he injured his pec, and I don't know if that recovered, but if he stays injury-free, I think he can do quite well in bodybuilding.  Maybe not be at Dorian's level of Olympia wins, or win any Olympia contests at all, but I think he can make it to the Olympia stage, and be a contender.  He's a good, young bodybuilder with a bright future, providing that he doesn't get hurt, or overdo the gear and damage his organs.

Is he at Dorian's level?  No.  Does that photo comparison look pretty darn close between the two of them in that pose?  IMO, yes.  Although I do acknowledge that that photo comparison was made to advantage Hunter.

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Re: Is Hunter LABRADA better than Dorian already ??
« Reply #67 on: November 27, 2020, 08:54:02 PM »
Here's why I disagree:


https://imgur.com/l71hsUZ

- Dorian's arm is longer.
- Dorian's arm is nevertheless more muscular, substantially thicker.  It's called the "Side Tricep," and he's absolutely owning Labrada Jr. on tricep size and shape.
- Dorian has better conditioning overall.
- Dorian has a more aesthetic waistline.
- Dorian has larger and substantially more defined calves.
- Dorian's legs are longer and his physique is overall more balanced.  Labrada has the proportions of a short man.

I just checked out the comparison you made [I attached your photo below].  You really make it clear how much better Dorian's calves are than Hunter's - even though that is of course the case, the photo was manipulated in a way to make it look less pronounced than it actually is - and as you have shown in your comparison, Dorian's calves are STILL much larger than Hunter's calves.

To be fair, I was looking at their left calves, and didn't notice the sheer size advantage Dorian has in calves until I noticed his right calve, highlighted in the comparison you made.

I previously conceded your point about Dorian having longer arms than Hunter, and better/bigger triceps, and you did a job job highlighting that in your comparison photo.

What's funny is that even using this example - a photo obviously made to make Hunter look as good as possible, and a shot of Dorian from...I'm guessing somewhere between 1995-1997, and Dorian still looks better, lol!!

No dis' whatsoever to Hunter there - it just goes to show how many lightyears ahead Dorian was than the competition.  While I always felt that Dorian had a thick waist, he was excellent everywhere else.  I would say 1993 was his best year, because by 1995, he was already missing a biceps.  Otherwise, you could make a good case for 1995 being his best year.

I still say that Ronnie Coleman in 2003 would beat any bodybuilding in any area of bodybuilding, and was literally the best stage physique ever seen by a bodybuilding in the history of the industry, but Dorian was also well ahead of his time, and his physique today could easily be a top contender in the 2020's world of bodybuilding [not yet begun, as far as the Olympia goes - but basically what I mean is: Dorian in 1993 could be competitive this year in 2020, and probably in 2023 for that matter, time will tell, which goes to show just how far ahead of his time Dorian was than the competition].

I wonder if Lee Haney, in his last Mr. Olympia win in 1991, when his wife Shirley insisted that he retire for health reasons at the ripe old age of 32, could be competitive in today's area.  Maybe not to the point of winning the Mr. Olympia...but I suspect a 1991 version of Lee Haney could make the Mr. Olympia stage.

Dorian would almost for sure have been Mr. Olympia had he competed last year.  Well...if the 1996 version of him was transported into the future...THAT version of Dorian [or any others from around that time period - while he was winning his Sandows] could have won in 2019, as well as 2018.

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Re: Is Hunter LABRADA better than Dorian already ??
« Reply #68 on: November 27, 2020, 09:01:13 PM »
The one point that I'll concede to you - and one that stood out to me too when I inspected the photo more closely - is that Dorian's arms are longer, and with similar thickness per inch of his arm length, Dorian clearly wins that pose for what it is, which is the side triceps shot.

Dorian's arms are just as thick, if not slightly more thick [again, judging from THAT photo comparison, which was obviously selected to favour Hunter], and Dorian's arms are longer, making his increased thickness compared to Hunter even more impressive.

That being said, to your other points, I'm not so sure.  Yes, Dorian's calves are better [much bigger] than Hunter's calves, but is that really apparent in that photo comparison?  I would say no - they look roughly the same size.  I would say that Dorian's calves look bigger in that shot, but not by much.  Again, we are comparing a photo of Dorian to a zoomed in photo of Hunter that is height-adjusted to make Hunter look bigger and compare more favourably to Dorian when he actually wouldn't, had both bodybuilders compared that pose on the same day [possible in the future if either Marty McFly or Marty Champions invents a time machine].

I agree with your other comments in that Dorian IS better than Hunter in the areas you specified - I'm merely saying that, aside from the arms/triceps shot in particular, that Dorian's advantages over Hunter are really not that apparent in that photo comparison, and again, that is because the comparison was created to make Hunter compare favourably to Dorian.

So to be clear - I'm agreeing with you that Dorian is better, and that his arms/triceps in that shot are better [longer with just as much thickness per inch, if not more thickness] than Hunter's, but everything else is pretty close, due to the manipulated nature of that photo comparison.

No knock on your views - I'm just saying that in this manipulated photo comparison, Hunter is pretty close to Dorian.  If they actually posed side by side on those same days [through time travel, cloning, or magic], you would see that Dorian is very much ahead of Hunter.

And I'm not knocking Hunter either - he is an excellent bodybuilder.  He has the symmetry genetics of his father, but is 5'9.5", which is a great height for bodybuilding.  I seem to recall he injured his pec, and I don't know if that recovered, but if he stays injury-free, I think he can do quite well in bodybuilding.  Maybe not be at Dorian's level of Olympia wins, or win any Olympia contests at all, but I think he can make it to the Olympia stage, and be a contender.  He's a good, young bodybuilder with a bright future, providing that he doesn't get hurt, or overdo the gear and damage his organs.

Is he at Dorian's level?  No.  Does that photo comparison look pretty darn close between the two of them in that pose?  IMO, yes.  Although I do acknowledge that that photo comparison was made to advantage Hunter.

And what happens to Labrada Junior when they turn around and do back poses?

If Hunter was competing in the late 80’s or early 90’s he couldn’t win Nationals at this point.

You clowns are actually comparing Yates to the latest internet hyped BB? Standing side by side on stage Dorian would make Labrada look like a middleweight.

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Re: Is Hunter LABRADA better than Dorian already ??
« Reply #69 on: November 28, 2020, 12:10:27 AM »
Hunter is taller than his Dad:










My Nan is taller than his Dad.

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Re: Is Hunter LABRADA better than Dorian already ??
« Reply #70 on: November 28, 2020, 02:29:22 AM »
I still say that Ronnie Coleman in 2003 would beat any bodybuilding in any area of bodybuilding, and was literally the best stage physique ever seen by a bodybuilding in the history of the industry, but Dorian was also well ahead of his time, and his physique today could easily be a top contender in the 2020's world of bodybuilding [not yet begun, as far as the Olympia goes - but basically what I mean is: Dorian in 1993 could be competitive this year in 2020, and probably in 2023 for that matter, time will tell, which goes to show just how far ahead of his time Dorian was than the competition].

Neither of them could hold a candle next to the 2010 version of Phil, hate to break it to you


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Re: Is Hunter LABRADA better than Dorian already ??
« Reply #71 on: November 28, 2020, 02:50:08 AM »
Go and watch Dorians Blood and Guts
His chest session is about three sets incline bench one working set of 6 reps no forced
couple sets hammer strength press
Couple sets dumbells and a set of cable crossovers

Now go watch Milos put someone through a giant set and tell me who works harder..

Ive done giant sets compound sets trisets descending sets and you get sore you dont get bigger or stronger.

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Re: Is Hunter LABRADA better than Dorian already ??
« Reply #72 on: November 28, 2020, 02:50:10 AM »
Neither of them could hold a candle next to the 2010 version of Phil, hate to break it to you



Yeah ok, Phil lost that show. Your grip on reality is in question.

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Re: Is Hunter LABRADA better than Dorian already ??
« Reply #73 on: November 28, 2020, 03:00:25 AM »
Neither of them could hold a candle next to the 2010 version of Phil, hate to break it to you



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Re: Is Hunter LABRADA better than Dorian already ??
« Reply #74 on: November 28, 2020, 03:19:55 AM »
Ive done giant sets compound sets trisets descending sets and you get sore you dont get bigger or stronger.

muscles only know intensity, thats all they respond to, they have no idea what exercises you are doing, the argument you may be making is that giant sets and the like actually overtrain you and hinder growth, as I said earlier maybe Dorian had it just right..