I used to be a powerlifter myself, I only competed once though, but now I'm 100% bodybuilder again. I have the utmost respect for the sport of powerlfting. However, you know what you can lift and how strong you are, it's all vanity but then again everything is vanity. When I could bench the most ever I din't look bad but I definitely look better now. I fell in love with bodybuilding again, we are creating a sculpture, with vacuum pose and great proportions
Juicers can gain strength extremely fast. The whole thing disgusts me. I'm glad I remained natty for life
I only powerlift as a gym hobby. I'd like to have competed but we've only had the IPF here and I refuse to go in there and pretend to be a lifetime natural If you haven't seen him, check out this elite powerlifter who did a couple of bb shows. He's made the craziest muscular gains I ever saw.https://instagram.com/phdeadlift?igshid=x9bn4mcc30xr
muscles only know intensity, thats all they respond to, they have no idea what exercises you are doing, the argument you may be making is that giant sets and the like actually overtrain you and hinder growth, as I said earlier maybe Dorian had it just right..
Wow he's a crazy freak.
I think Dorian made a large emotional investment into each workout and each set. That's why he felt he trained harder than anyone else. If you just look at his workout from the outside it doesn't look like anything special.Those that love "hard training" know that there's a difference between going into the gym with a laid back attitude and doing sets to failure and beyond vs. thinking of a certain set for a week and going in all hyped up and desperate to hit a PR. The second can really drain you whereas the first might look like more work.Another way to illustrate this is by way of powerlifting competitions. It's a maximum of 9 single lifts. Not a ton of work, not many seconds of effort, but the emotional investment can be huge, and it might take months to recover from fully.If you look at Milos' giant sets, they are very laid back in a way, simply because you can't, by necessity, go 100% every inch of every movement. So the movements get a little sloppy and there is little grinding lifts and hard failure points, and so on. If you did giant sets like Dorian did his sets no one would survive it. Maybe one workout but not as a constant way of training.
Look at his gains in a year, from 184 to 237. I mean he already had many years of juicing behind him in the first pic.
This is an excellent post and that analogy really clarified it and something I hadn't considered. It's not just going through the motions and grinding it out. That "emotional investment" is a factor that goes unseen and unappreciated. Dorian mentioned how he kept records of all his training sessions and diet -- replete with comments and criticisms. That is a level of commitment and obsession that goes beyond those six reps on the incline.
Yes, and he mentioned in an article how surprised he was as a new professional to find other competitors weren't like that.
I agree with the OP but it’s a tough call because not that much time has passed, relatively speaking, since Dorian’s era. The people who are saying Labrada can’t be better, or as good, are the same people who would say Barry Bonds or Mike Trout could never be as good as Babe Ruth or Mickey Mantle.
Hunter Labrada is not at the level of Dorian, come on now, this thread is ridiculous
Hunter would win if they competed today.
One of the greatest of all time versus a guy with a Semi-famous daddy.
hunter isn't even better than his dadE
This, srs, Hunter is great but that pec tear hurts him badly, reminds me of Toney Freeman, a pec tear is almost a death sentence for a competitive bodybuilder, and yes Hunter is not better than his Dad, taller and bigger yes, but not better
What can I say, good for him, he's a freak, but is he natty? Nope. (I am)
