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Will THE TRAITOR attempt to pardon himself or will he
« on: November 27, 2020, 03:05:50 PM »
resign on his last day in office so that Pence can pardon him ?


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Re: Will THE TRAITOR attempt to pardon himself or will he
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2020, 03:34:45 PM »
resign on his last day in office so that Pence can pardon him ?

A pardon isn't likely to do Trump much good with the New York judicial system when they find him guilty of tax fraud.

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Re: Will THE TRAITOR attempt to pardon himself or will he
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2020, 06:51:07 AM »
resign on his last day in office so that Pence can pardon him ?
The only traitors are on the left. And we want them tried and executed for treason. Don't underestimate the hatred for the regressive left that's fomenting. You regressive commies are living in a bubble. You are unaware that you are being stalked. We want you fuckers dead! Hope that helps!

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Re: Will THE TRAITOR attempt to pardon himself or will he
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2020, 06:52:53 AM »
A pardon isn't likely to do Trump much good with the New York judicial system when they find him guilty of tax fraud.
Trump supporters won't stand for the double standards. Why is Hillary not in prison yet? What about jo bi deng for his quid pro quo in Ukraine? Military men are conservative. Regressive lefts are faggits. Good luck with the coming war you assholes will be destroyed.

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Re: Will THE TRAITOR attempt to pardon himself or will he
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2020, 07:55:09 AM »
A pardon isn't likely to do Trump much good with the New York judicial system when they find him guilty of tax fraud.

what tax fraud ? tell us the details...........silenc e...
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Re: Will THE TRAITOR attempt to pardon himself or will he
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2020, 10:49:15 AM »
He will most likely try to pardon members of his inner circle, only to be told that pardons are not preemptive. 

He won't try to get a pardon for himself, instead think he did nothing wrong and/or can talk/deal himself out of it.

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Re: Will THE TRAITOR attempt to pardon himself or will he
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2020, 10:53:06 AM »
What crime?  You guys who think his companies commit tax fraud are delusional.  A company that size probably gets audited regularly by the feds and NY state.  We need a vaccine for TDS much more than one for Covid.

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Re: Will THE TRAITOR attempt to pardon himself or will he
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2020, 10:54:54 AM »
What crime?  You guys who think his companies commit tax fraud are delusional.  A company that size probably gets audited regularly by the feds and NY state.  We need a vaccine for TDS much more than one for Covid.

Exactly.  So if he does attempt to do so, it makes you wonder.   LOL

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Re: Will THE TRAITOR attempt to pardon himself or will he
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2020, 11:41:57 AM »
What crime?  You guys who think his companies commit tax fraud are delusional.  A company that size probably gets audited regularly by the feds and NY state.  We need a vaccine for TDS much more than one for Covid.

you're hilarious

As Prime pointed a federal pardon won't work for state charges in NYC and of course you don't know jack shit about Trumps taxes or even the fact that big and small companies get caught cheating on their taxes all the time.   The Feds and NYC have Michael Cohen cooperating with them and who knows who else is also cooperating to keep their own asses out of jail.

As I'm sure you know there is a lot of talk from inside the White House about Trump pardoning himself. 

The person talking about this (or at least re-tweeting about it) is THE TRAITOR himself

  https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-shares-tweet-saying-pardon-self-rest-of-his-admin-2020-11

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Re: Will THE TRAITOR attempt to pardon himself or will he
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2020, 11:53:35 AM »
you're hilarious

As Prime pointed a federal pardon won't work for state charges in NYC and of course you don't know jack shit about Trumps taxes or even the fact that big and small companies get caught cheating on their taxes all the time.   The Feds and NYC have Michael Cohen cooperating with them and who knows who else is also cooperating to keep their own asses out of jail.

As I'm sure you know there is a lot of talk from inside the White House about Trump pardoning himself. 

The person talking about this (or at least re-tweeting about it) is THE TRAITOR himself

  https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-shares-tweet-saying-pardon-self-rest-of-his-admin-2020-11
Trump committed no crimes and will never pay for any.  When they come up with a vaccine for TDS you should be the first in line.

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Re: Will THE TRAITOR attempt to pardon himself or will he
« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2020, 03:00:02 PM »
what tax fraud ? tell us the details...........silenc e...

If you don't know by now what is tax fraud, you must live in a cave.

November 20, 2020Two separate New York State fraud investigations into President Trump and his businesses, one criminal and one civil, have expanded to include tax write-offs on millions of dollars in consulting fees, some of which appear to have gone to Ivanka Trump, according to people with knowledge of the matter.

The inquiries — a criminal investigation by the Manhattan district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance Jr., and a civil one by the state attorney general, Letitia James — are being conducted independently. But both offices issued subpoenas to the Trump Organization in recent weeks for records related to the fees, the people said.

Among the revelations was that Mr. Trump reduced his taxable income by deducting about $26 million in fees to unidentified consultants as a business expense on numerous projects between 2010 and 2018.

The legal fight is before the United States Supreme Court for a second time, with a ruling expected soon. Prosecutors have suggested in court filings that their investigation has expanded far beyond the hush money and is focused on a number of potential financial crimes, including insurance and bank-related fraud, tax evasion and grand larceny.


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/19/nyregion/trump-fraud-investigations-taxes.html

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Re: Will THE TRAITOR attempt to pardon himself or will he
« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2020, 03:11:18 PM »
Trump committed no crimes and will never pay for any.  When they come up with a vaccine for TDS you should be the first in line.

You should join his legal team
They need more of your kind of magical thinking

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Re: Will THE TRAITOR attempt to pardon himself or will he
« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2020, 03:12:03 PM »
If you don't know by now what tax fraud, you must live in a cave.

November 20, 2020Two separate New York State fraud investigations into President Trump and his businesses, one criminal and one civil, have expanded to include tax write-offs on millions of dollars in consulting fees, some of which appear to have gone to Ivanka Trump, according to people with knowledge of the matter.

The inquiries — a criminal investigation by the Manhattan district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance Jr., and a civil one by the state attorney general, Letitia James — are being conducted independently. But both offices issued subpoenas to the Trump Organization in recent weeks for records related to the fees, the people said.

Among the revelations was that Mr. Trump reduced his taxable income by deducting about $26 million in fees to unidentified consultants as a business expense on numerous projects between 2010 and 2018.

The legal fight is before the United States Supreme Court for a second time, with a ruling expected soon. Prosecutors have suggested in court filings that their investigation has expanded far beyond the hush money and is focused on a number of potential financial crimes, including insurance and bank-related fraud, tax evasion and grand larceny.


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/19/nyregion/trump-fraud-investigations-taxes.html

nope, Trumpards don't live in a cave

They live in denial

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Re: Will THE TRAITOR attempt to pardon himself or will he
« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2020, 06:38:18 PM »
If you don't know by now what tax fraud, you must live in a cave.

November 20, 2020Two separate New York State fraud investigations into President Trump and his businesses, one criminal and one civil, have expanded to include tax write-offs on millions of dollars in consulting fees, some of which appear to have gone to Ivanka Trump, according to people with knowledge of the matter.

The inquiries — a criminal investigation by the Manhattan district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance Jr., and a civil one by the state attorney general, Letitia James — are being conducted independently. But both offices issued subpoenas to the Trump Organization in recent weeks for records related to the fees, the people said.

Among the revelations was that Mr. Trump reduced his taxable income by deducting about $26 million in fees to unidentified consultants as a business expense on numerous projects between 2010 and 2018.

The legal fight is before the United States Supreme Court for a second time, with a ruling expected soon. Prosecutors have suggested in court filings that their investigation has expanded far beyond the hush money and is focused on a number of potential financial crimes, including insurance and bank-related fraud, tax evasion and grand larceny.


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/19/nyregion/trump-fraud-investigations-taxes.html

tax deductions can only be disallowed, they are not criminal charges. The rest about larceny etc is just more  fake media rubbish that people like you get duped by.   
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Re: Will THE TRAITOR attempt to pardon himself or will he
« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2020, 07:01:00 PM »
tax deductions can only be disallowed, they are not criminal charges. The rest about larceny etc is just more fake media rubbish that people like you get duped by.

News flash, this might be true in some cases, but not all!

When you knowingly claim a false dependent on your taxes, you risk sanctions and a potential audit from the IRS. Claiming false deductions 'like dependents' is considered tax evasion and is, therefore, a felony with potentially severe criminal penalties.

Although they sound similar "tax avoidance" and "tax evasion" are radically different. Tax avoidance lowers your tax bill by structuring your transactions so that you reap the largest tax benefits. Tax avoidance is completely legal—and extremely wise.

Tax evasion, on the other hand, is an attempt to reduce your tax liability by deceit, subterfuge, or concealment. Tax evasion is a crime.

How do you know when shrewd planning—tax avoidance—goes too far and crosses the line to become illegal tax evasion? Often the distinction turns upon whether actions were taken with fraudulent intent.


Trump's tax attorneys, accountants and anyone employed to prepare/advise his taxes are most likely to take the fall for any illegal irregularities because they had the opportunity to refuse to do his taxes if they felt something was off. They also had an obligation to inform Trump that it was not something he could get away with.

Tax evasion, as illegal as it is, is not as dangerously illegal as refusing to pay your taxes because you are a tax objector. For someone in Trump's income bracket to pretend they didn't know they were intentionally cheating on their tax liability would be a very hard sell.

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Re: Will THE TRAITOR attempt to pardon himself or will he
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2020, 07:54:57 AM »
News flash, this might be true in some cases, but not all!

When you knowingly claim a false dependent on your taxes, you risk sanctions and a potential audit from the IRS. Claiming false deductions 'like dependents' is considered tax evasion and is, therefore, a felony with potentially severe criminal penalties.

Although they sound similar "tax avoidance" and "tax evasion" are radically different. Tax avoidance lowers your tax bill by structuring your transactions so that you reap the largest tax benefits. Tax avoidance is completely legal—and extremely wise.

Tax evasion, on the other hand, is an attempt to reduce your tax liability by deceit, subterfuge, or concealment. Tax evasion is a crime.

How do you know when shrewd planning—tax avoidance—goes too far and crosses the line to become illegal tax evasion? Often the distinction turns upon whether actions were taken with fraudulent intent.


Trump's tax attorneys, accountants and anyone employed to prepare/advise his taxes are most likely to take the fall for any illegal irregularities because they had the opportunity to refuse to do his taxes if they felt something was off. They also had an obligation to inform Trump that it was not something he could get away with.

Tax evasion, as illegal as it is, is not as dangerously illegal as refusing to pay your taxes because you are a tax objector. For someone in Trump's income bracket to pretend they didn't know they were intentionally cheating on their tax liability would be a very hard sell.

so after 50 + years and thousands of audits they say " lets fake millions of fees" ?
Like I said you love to be duped by these tabloid fake news outlets...

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Re: Will THE TRAITOR attempt to pardon himself or will he
« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2020, 08:32:50 AM »
its great listening to these liberal broke asses talk taxes, finance, ect..  how many of you have been audited? signed a paycheck that wasnt your own? paid business fees and expenses? which one of you communist fucks doesnt work for someone else or some company? which one of you sit at the head of the table?  my guess is none of you.

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Re: Will THE TRAITOR attempt to pardon himself or will he
« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2020, 08:41:35 AM »
what tax fraud ? tell us the details...........silenc e...
The Russians are hiding the details for Trump!! :D
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: Will THE TRAITOR attempt to pardon himself or will he
« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2020, 10:20:40 AM »
News flash, this might be true in some cases, but not all!

When you knowingly claim a false dependent on your taxes, you risk sanctions and a potential audit from the IRS. Claiming false deductions 'like dependents' is considered tax evasion and is, therefore, a felony with potentially severe criminal penalties.

Although they sound similar "tax avoidance" and "tax evasion" are radically different. Tax avoidance lowers your tax bill by structuring your transactions so that you reap the largest tax benefits. Tax avoidance is completely legal—and extremely wise.

Tax evasion, on the other hand, is an attempt to reduce your tax liability by deceit, subterfuge, or concealment. Tax evasion is a crime.

How do you know when shrewd planning—tax avoidance—goes too far and crosses the line to become illegal tax evasion? Often the distinction turns upon whether actions were taken with fraudulent intent.


Trump's tax attorneys, accountants and anyone employed to prepare/advise his taxes are most likely to take the fall for any illegal irregularities because they had the opportunity to refuse to do his taxes if they felt something was off. They also had an obligation to inform Trump that it was not something he could get away with.

Tax evasion, as illegal as it is, is not as dangerously illegal as refusing to pay your taxes because you are a tax objector. For someone in Trump's income bracket to pretend they didn't know they were intentionally cheating on their tax liability would be a very hard sell.
Do you really think his companies aren't regularly audited?  It's funny how libtards squeal over his finances when he doesn't even take a salary as president.  Liberal politicians get all of their salary from tax payer money their whole careers.  No complaints there.

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Re: Will THE TRAITOR attempt to pardon himself or will he
« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2020, 11:11:53 AM »
tax deductions can only be disallowed, they are not criminal charges. The rest about larceny etc is just more  fake media rubbish that people like you get duped by.

people go to jail for tax evasion
they also go to jail for loan fraud and insurance fraud

fraud is the key word in all of Trump business dealings


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Re: Will THE TRAITOR attempt to pardon himself or will he
« Reply #20 on: November 29, 2020, 11:17:43 AM »
people go to jail for tax evasion
they also go to jail for loan fraud and insurance fraud

fraud is the key word in all of Trump business dealings
Like in democrat's elections?

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Re: Will THE TRAITOR attempt to pardon himself or will he
« Reply #21 on: November 29, 2020, 11:21:19 AM »
Like in democrat's elections?

nope

how do I know?

because Trumps attorney's have never claimed that in court (not sure how you don't know that at this point) and because Republican officials all over the country who are in charge of elections in their states have  said there is no fraud

The fraud I'm talking about are things like the Trump Foundation, Trump University, etc..


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Re: Will THE TRAITOR attempt to pardon himself or will he
« Reply #22 on: November 29, 2020, 12:27:26 PM »
nope

how do I know?

because Trumps attorney's have never claimed that in court (not sure how you don't know that at this point) and because Republican officials all over the country who are in charge of elections in their states have  said there is no fraud

The fraud I'm talking about are things like the Trump Foundation, Trump University, etc..
Look into the Clinton Foundation if you want to find fraud.

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Re: Will THE TRAITOR attempt to pardon himself or will he
« Reply #23 on: November 29, 2020, 01:23:06 PM »
people go to jail for tax evasion
they also go to jail for loan fraud and insurance fraud

fraud is the key word in all of Trump business dealings

none of which is applicable to Trump.
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Re: Will THE TRAITOR attempt to pardon himself or will he
« Reply #24 on: November 29, 2020, 03:51:08 PM »
Look into the Clinton Foundation if you want to find fraud.

The Clinton Foundation has been heavily scrutinized for several years. Beginning in 2015, multiple investigations were conducted into alleged wrongdoing by the Foundation, including a two-year inquiry initiated by the Trump Justice Department, but through 2019 no evidence of wrongdoing was found. Charity watchdog group Charity Navigator, which has an ongoing relationship with the Foundation, gave it its highest possible rating, four out of four stars, after its customary review of the Foundation's financial records and tax statements.

On the other hand. '. A federal judge finalized the $25 million settlement between President Trump and students of his now shuttered, 'sham university' Trump University on Monday, with New York's attorney general claiming “victims of Donald Trump’s fraudulent university will finally receive the relief they deserve.”

NEW YORK – New York Attorney General Letitia James released the following statement after Donald J. Trump was forced to pay more than $2 million in court-ordered damages to eight different charities for illegally misusing charitable funds at the Trump Foundation for political purposes.

Attorney General Letitia James said, “Not only has the Trump Foundation shut down for its misconduct, but the president has been forced to pay $2 million for misusing charitable funds for his own political gain. Charities are not a means to an end, which is why these damages speak to the president’s abuse of power and represent a victory for not-for-profits that follow the law. Funds have finally gone where they deserve — to eight credible charities. My office will continue to fight for accountability because no one is above the law — not a businessman, not a candidate for office, and not even the president of the United States.”

Additionally, Trump was forced to reimburse his namesake foundation $11,525 for sports paraphernalia and champagne purchased at a charity gala, which was added to $1,797,598.30 already in the foundation’s bank account.


Don't believe this? It is all a matter of public record.