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Re: WTF, does these guys even train????
« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2020, 10:10:31 PM »
Was impressed that Roy could take Mike's body punches.  The first was a little boring with Roy locking Mike up every time he landed a punch.

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Re: WTF, does these guys even train????
« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2020, 11:44:07 PM »
What I don't understand is why are these 2 fighting, Mike Tyson is a heavy weight and Roy Jones is a lightweight, no? Tyson should be fighting someone his size, a heavyweight

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Re: WTF, does these guys even train????
« Reply #27 on: November 29, 2020, 12:20:31 AM »
What I don't understand is why are these 2 fighting, Mike Tyson is a heavy weight and Roy Jones is a lightweight, no? Tyson should be fighting someone his size, a heavyweight

That's an easy one -- money. I'd fight Tyson or Jones for a fat paycheck regardless of their weight.

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Re: WTF, does these guys even train????
« Reply #28 on: November 29, 2020, 12:34:17 AM »
Two old guys laying on each other for several rounds.

As opposed to g4p, prancing around the stage with baby oil, entirely shaved body, in a thong, and putting your hand up to your ear for the crowd to cheer?

People in bbing were excited to see Levrone come back at 52 years old, even delusional jumbo palumbo thought he could beat phil

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Re: WTF, does these guys even train????
« Reply #29 on: November 29, 2020, 02:48:43 AM »
Get off the juice and see what happens
Im not on any juice and haven't touched a weight for around 2 months and eaten what I like and still dont look like that, these are meant to be guys who are training cardio for hours a day , the shape Cormier is in in the photo pellius posted he must have ben drinking bottles of vegetable oil

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Re: WTF, does these guys even train????
« Reply #30 on: November 29, 2020, 02:51:01 AM »
Im not on any juice and haven't touched a weight for around 2 months and eaten what I like and still dont look like that, these are meant to be guys who are training cardio for hours a day , the shape Cormier is in in the photo pellius posted he must have ben drinking bottles of vegetable oil

I think they have another diet than you Jeffrey! :D


You know they love KFC and other junkfood
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Re: WTF, does these guys even train????
« Reply #31 on: November 29, 2020, 02:51:43 AM »
I remember Kimbo and that other big Black dude that fought in Bellator. These guys trained every day prior to their fight. Lifting weights, running, sparring, wrestling, bag work... and still, they looked like they were about to have a heart attack -- actually, the other guy did have a heart attack while fighting Kimbo. When it comes to sports that require physical endurance by the time you are in your forties it pretty much over at the elite level.

Bernard Hopkins?
Randy Couture?

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Re: WTF, does these guys even train????
« Reply #32 on: November 29, 2020, 03:28:23 AM »
Bernard Hopkins?
Randy Couture?

The exception not the rule, couture is the only person over 40 that has won a UFC championship fight.


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Re: WTF, does these guys even train????
« Reply #33 on: November 29, 2020, 03:41:14 AM »
The exception not the rule, couture is the only person over 40 that has won a UFC championship fight.
Thats because they look after themselves and not let it all go...

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Re: WTF, does these guys even train????
« Reply #34 on: November 29, 2020, 03:51:09 AM »
Dont forget Alvey Culina, he beat Matt Hughes, both aging fighters.  ::)

In all seriousness, I enjoyed the Netflix show "Kingdom".




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Re: WTF, does these guys even train????
« Reply #35 on: November 29, 2020, 06:41:26 PM »
What I don't understand is why are these 2 fighting, Mike Tyson is a heavy weight and Roy Jones is a lightweight, no? Tyson should be fighting someone his size, a heavyweight
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Roy moved up every weight class all the way to win the HW title. They were close in weight at this fight.  They did it for the money.

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Re: WTF, does these guys even train????
« Reply #36 on: November 29, 2020, 07:44:09 PM »
Hmm

After the bout, Tyson indicated he smoked another joint, apparently before he met with the media to discuss his first fight in 15 years.

"Listen, I can’t stop smoking," he said. "I smoked during fights. I just have to smoke, I’m sorry. I’m a smoker. … I smoke everyday. I never stopped smoking."


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Re: WTF, does these guys even train????
« Reply #37 on: December 01, 2020, 01:16:55 AM »
Bernard Hopkins?
Randy Couture?

Of course, there are exceptions, but even Couture use to complain that he didn't have the endurance he had when he was in his twenties despite having a better and more sophisticated training regime.

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Re: WTF, does these guys even train????
« Reply #38 on: December 01, 2020, 01:20:51 AM »
I finally had a chance to watch the fight yesterday and I thought Tyson did great. Jones was obviously winded but not Tyson. Watching that bobbing and weaving brought back fond memories. The Tyson era was great. I don't really follow boxing anymore but during the 1980s it was great. So many great and interesting fighters during that era.

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Re: WTF, does these guys even train????
« Reply #39 on: December 01, 2020, 01:39:57 AM »
Im not on any juice and haven't touched a weight for around 2 months and eaten what I like and still dont look like that, these are meant to be guys who are training cardio for hours a day , the shape Cormier is in in the photo pellius posted he must have ben drinking bottles of vegetable oil

Cormier is in one of the best shapes of his life. He just got off a gruelling training camp and is fighting for the UFC heavyweight championship. Daniel just never had
a ripped muscular physique. Even in his young days competing in the Bejing Olympics he was flabby. You don't get to the Olympics being lazy and out of shape. Big ripped muscles is no guarantee that you are in athletic condition. Does anybody really think Ramy, Roelly, Phil, or Curry could play a game of basketball or football, or go through even five rounds of boxing, or any sustained physical activity without passing out from exhaustion?

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Re: WTF, does these guys even train????
« Reply #40 on: December 01, 2020, 01:40:28 AM »
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If that photo that say a winner will not be declared was out before the fight all the sports books should give the bets back a lot of people bet one way or the other I didn’t hear anyone saying they were betting draw

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Re: WTF, does these guys even train????
« Reply #41 on: December 01, 2020, 01:44:12 AM »
Cormier is in one of the best shapes of his life. He just got off a gruelling training camp and is fighting for the UFC heavyweight championship. Daniel just never had
a ripped muscular physique. Even in his young days competing in the Bejing Olympics he was flabby. You don't get to the Olympics being lazy and out of shape. Big ripped muscles is no guarantee that you are in athletic condition. Does anybody really think Ramy, Roelly, Phil, or Curry could play a game of basketball or football, or go through even five rounds of boxing, or any sustained physical activity without passing out from exhaustion?

Ramy Roelly Phil and Brandon would dominate combat sport s

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Re: WTF, does these guys even train????
« Reply #42 on: December 01, 2020, 08:08:23 AM »
Cormier is in one of the best shapes of his life. He just got off a gruelling training camp and is fighting for the UFC heavyweight championship. Daniel just never had
a ripped muscular physique. Even in his young days competing in the Bejing Olympics he was flabby. You don't get to the Olympics being lazy and out of shape. Big ripped muscles is no guarantee that you are in athletic condition. Does anybody really think Ramy, Roelly, Phil, or Curry could play a game of basketball or football, or go through even five rounds of boxing, or any sustained physical activity without passing out from exhaustion?

I just dont understand how they stay so fat and get that fit, thats my point, Im not dissing the guys , its just that if someone is training for hours a day they shouldnt be fat, Sumo guys amaze me as they do train hard..

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Re: WTF, does these guys even train????
« Reply #43 on: December 01, 2020, 09:40:18 AM »
Geesh- that is embarrassing. It looks like two old guys about to fight over who gets the recliner.
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Re: WTF, does these guys even train????
« Reply #44 on: December 02, 2020, 03:31:37 AM »
I just dont understand how they stay so fat and get that fit, thats my point, Im not dissing the guys , its just that if someone is training for hours a day they shouldnt be fat, Sumo guys amaze me as they do train hard..

Point taken. I don't get it either. Your body kind of "forms" to the type of life/activity you engage in. Marathon runners will look like concentration camp victims, couch potatoes look like potatoes, and you would think a wrestler, though not necessarily being ripped, will have more muscle to fat ratio. A prime B.J. would go through a whole class, maybe about a dozen guys of all sizes and skill levels, tapping them one by one and leaving them exhausted. And the guy looked like a fat buddha head with no discernible muscle. There was nothing about him that would make you think he was an athlete of any sort. Very puzzling.


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Re: WTF, does these guys even train????
« Reply #45 on: December 02, 2020, 03:33:19 AM »
Metabolism of some people is quite the conundrum!
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Re: WTF, does these guys even train????
« Reply #46 on: December 02, 2020, 05:47:56 AM »
Was impressed that Roy could take Mike's body punches.  The first was a little boring with Roy locking Mike up every time he landed a punch.

They were both pulling their punches. If Mike hit him with a body shot with bad intent Roy would have been done.

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Re: WTF, does these guys even train????
« Reply #47 on: December 02, 2020, 07:57:08 AM »
Of course, there are exceptions, but even Couture use to complain that he didn't have the endurance he had when he was in his twenties despite having a better and more sophisticated training regime.

Endurance doesn't drop with age. Power does, but not endurance. I've raced against 65 year old guys who outlast 99% of the people in the pack in a 60 mile ride. That is against guys 20+.

What does happen is your brain starts questioning why the hell you should train or work out so hard, lol If you are motivated you can do some amazing things as you get older: https://www.bicycling.com/news/a20015881/105-year-old-frenchman-sets-cycling-hour-record-for-age-group/

Even more impressive is this: https://imga.ch/2020/09/22/61-year-old-sets-blazing-fast-age-group-world-record-in-the-mile/

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Re: WTF, does these guys even train????
« Reply #48 on: December 02, 2020, 09:03:08 AM »
Point taken. I don't get it either. Your body kind of "forms" to the type of life/activity you engage in. Marathon runners will look like concentration camp victims, couch potatoes look like potatoes, and you would think a wrestler, though not necessarily being ripped, will have more muscle to fat ratio. A prime B.J. would go through a whole class, maybe about a dozen guys of all sizes and skill levels, tapping them one by one and leaving them exhausted. And the guy looked like a fat buddha head with no discernible muscle. There was nothing about him that would make you think he was an athlete of any sort. Very puzzling.



it puts up a valid argument that cardio alone is useless for fat loss.
Its all about calorific deficit