"Working" Remotely/From Home During Covid?

[SOMEPARTS]

If you are in retail or hospitality service, then perhaps ...not for everyone else

Au contraire, companies are figuring out that even those that were "essential" really only did a couple hours of actual work. As Henda says many of these tech people are lucky to have their dinosaur jobs, AI will replace them....everything is virtual/cloud based. Do people really think that Youtube and Facebook have hundreds of thousands of people working for them taking down posts? That's AI/algorithms at work...takes a handful of fascists to limit free speech.

Some areas of retail and hospitality have been decimated this year. All part of lowering living standards and expectations of service. Then again why should it take 20 minutes in a drive thru to get a coffee? Bring on the burger flipping robots asap.

Of course highly skilled and creative aspects of any business segment will need people, but not many. This is the reason that minimum basic income is in the works(for now) IMO.

[Coach is Back!]

Ya'll are getting fired in 2021. 

I have plenty of friends and family who admit they are doing nothing but joining zoom meetings they have nothing directly to do with.

Forget being furloughed - companies have now identified and will be laying off all the dead weight in 2021.

Still busy AF..

[SOMEPARTS]

Still busy AF..

Entrepreneurs are exempt. They would cut grass and pickup cans on the side of the road rather than work for somebody. 

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Vince only works for giant white ran multinational corporations

Lowe’s  11 bucks a hour

Verizon  15 a hour plus stock options right Melvin ?

Caliber fitness

So on and so on

I don’t have the capital to hire or retain such a talent

Only right about Lowes which was 11.19.   Everything else.....nope.   

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Riiiiiggggjht

So your looking for work

What retailer you gonna work for next ?

Phone company ?

That didn’t work well with Verizon, sooo

Maybe dollar store ?

Grub hub or Uber ?

The hell are you talking about???  I still at the same job.     I was planning to leave for a job offer at TD Ameritrade last month but decided against it as the market currently is very unstable.  Not a good time to go around switching job.

And there's nothing wrong with working for Grubhub.   I have a buddy of mine that works about 60 hours a week but is bringing in about 3k a month....especially with the pandemic where deliveries are high.   He doesn't have to even take money....just rings the bell and leave it on the doorstep.   I think its awesome for a job that doesn't require any skills.    I showed him how to write off his mileage, vehicle expenses, etc so he's getting the bills paid.


A job is what you make of it.  If you look down at any job someone holds then you're a piece of shit....beats collecting unemployment

[epic is back]

I had seen you mention you were leaving Verizon is why I mentioned it

Guess you changed your mind , which seems often in your case

 Your Verizon job takes no skill either

You’ll be replaced by a computer

Or a paki

Maybe break into the dubya dubya eeeeee

It’s your calling Melvin

Grandiose sense of self , braggadocio

Cmon

Just get your lazy fat ass in shape and try out

Create a crazy unreal persona

Or just be you

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

I had seen you mention you were leaving Verizon is why I mentioned it

Guess you changed your mind , which seems often in your case

 Your Verizon job takes no skill either

You’ll be replaced by a computer

Or a paki

Maybe break into the dubya dubya eeeeee

It’s your calling Melvin

Grandiose sense of self , braggadocio

Cmon

Just get your lazy fat ass in shape and try out

Create a crazy unreal persona

Or just be you

I apologize...I honestly thought that I was responding to someone with a little bit of intelligence.....

[Tapeworm]

Kids won't do drywall. Or wet wall. Or paint. Or roof, drive a backhoe, repoint brick joints, etc.

And all the adults want to stay in their comfy house. New housing starts are up in Aus. A renovation stimulus will spur that side of the building industry. Future's so bright,




"OMG ewww. You do drywall for, like, a living? Are you retarded or something?"

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Au contraire, companies are figuring out that even those that were "essential" really only did a couple hours of actual work. As Henda says many of these tech people are lucky to have their dinosaur jobs, AI will replace them....everything is virtual/cloud based. Do people really think that Youtube and Facebook have hundreds of thousands of people working for them taking down posts? That's AI/algorithms at work...takes a handful of fascists to limit free speech.

Some areas of retail and hospitality have been decimated this year. All part of lowering living standards and expectations of service. Then again why should it take 20 minutes in a drive thru to get a coffee? Bring on the burger flipping robots asap.

Of course highly skilled and creative aspects of any business segment will need people, but not many. This is the reason that minimum basic income is in the works(for now) IMO.

Some cell phone service providers have it in which everything is entirely controlled by computers and there is no live personal support   The problem is that there is no checks and balances for errors in billing and no way of resolving it "when" it fucks up and it always does.   Computers and AI's are tools....not something you wish to rely on for the human nature of doing business.   It will never talk about stuff going on in the world, it won't trade dinner recipes with you, it won't talk about Drew Brees, etc.  That's where customer retention comes down to.   

I will agree with you on some of these dinosaur tech jobs and most of the companies give those folks an exit package to leave or they get laid off.   Its why they call it a parachute packages sometimes....either drop to the ground softly or just get thrown out of the airplane

[Coach is Back!]

Entrepreneurs are exempt. They would cut grass and pickup cans on the side of the road rather than work for somebody. 

I actually thought about this that if I actually worked for company that made wear a mask, I’d go postal

[epic is back]

I apologize...I honestly thought that I was responding to someone with a little bit of intelligence.....

Says the guy who buys 30 year old used washing machines all cash in some dump

You might want to insult in a manner not related to “ intelligence “

[epic is back]

Some cell phone service providers have it in which everything is entirely controlled by computers and there is no live personal support   The problem is that there is no checks and balances for errors in billing and no way of resolving it "when" it fucks up and it always does.   Computers and AI's are tools....not something you wish to rely on for the human nature of doing business.   It will never talk about stuff going on in the world, it won't trade dinner recipes with you, it won't talk about Drew Brees, etc.  That's where customer retention comes down to.   

I will agree with you on some of these dinosaur tech jobs and most of the companies give those folks an exit package to leave or they get laid off.   Its why they call it a parachute packages sometimes....either drop to the ground softly or just get thrown out of the airplane

Low level customer representative jobs don’t get “ parachute packages “

Lol

Damn dude

You are out there

But I have to admire you in one way

If I lived in a trailer in the south , had a job with Verizon,  and was fat , black , and ghey

I’d probably go postal and just go out blazing

You on the other hand

Pretend your living the fine life in a tin can with used busted ass cars and a internet persona keeping you just happy enough to not end it .

That is admirable

You keep your head up , or down?
Or whatever it is you gay lords do

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Still busy AF..

Keep rocking it , Joe

[Zillotch]

highly skilled and creative

as the remnant of humankind is systematically hunted down... creativity will b the last to go.

there will b no human creativity inside of the system.

decimate indeed.

[Hypertrophy]

Says the guy who buys 30 year old used washing machines all cash in some dump

You might want to insult in a manner not related to “ intelligence “

Actually that is a smart move. 30 or even 20 year old washing machines are a hell of a lot more reliable than the current crop of garbage, lol. I fixed my daughters  20 year old machine and it cost $12 in parts. In my house I have one of those "state of the art" Samsung machines that cost well over a grand that is full of bells and whistles. And it is full of embedded microelectronics that shit the bed at the slightest spike in household current. Fortunately I have a lot of experience in circuit design and construction and was able to replace one component on a circuit board that Samsung wanted $300 for- at a cost of $10. But most people would get screwed over by the repair industry.

I don't agree with Vince's politics but I applaud his work ethic and stick to it nature. People should back off on criticizing what people do for a living- all work is noble.

[epic is back]

I agree the new machines are inferior in the way of planned obsolescence

But my time is worth more than 300 or 1 k

I could be making 10 times that putting my energy elsewhere abc not trying to fix some piece of junk

And I don’t admire Vince in his decision and racism

He hates the very people he works  for

Spouts off how he is intelligent

It just doesn’t match up. With what we have seen with our eyes

The competing when fat and  in dilution

Buying fake awards and achievements putting them on a wall ?

I don’t see anything wrong with reality

Not one bit

But I admire his insanity

It just might work in real tough times ahead

[Hypertrophy]

If I lived in a trailer in the south , had a job with Verizon,  and was fat , black , and ghey

I’d probably go postal and just go out blazing

You on the other hand

Pretend your living the fine life in a tin can with used busted ass cars and a internet persona keeping you just happy enough to not end it .

Just put wood siding on on that "trailer" (which is a retarded name for modular homes) and suddenly you are hip and millennial, right? Or get a 40+ year old truck and drive it in LA, claiming to be cool as fuck cuz you gots the old car and are hip?

Epic, stop being a douche bag. You are probably a great guy in person but on this board you come off as an insecure fuck who can't wait to spew his venom. You give shit to a guy who is gay, or bi, and yet one of the best posters on this board is One More Rep, a "ghey". You going to attack him next?

You mock what kind of house a guy lives in yet there are many posters on here with million plus houses who would put you to shame.

And this relentless mocking of someone's livelihood? Who the fuck raised you- some twisted snob? I personally have at various times in my life been a bagger at a grocery store, a paperboy, a clerk at a convenience store, an engineer at GE/Xerox/IBM, an environmental chemist and finally the owner of three different companies that I either run now or sold. All the while I was happy I could make ends meet.

Just stop.

[epic is back]

Hyper

Trophy

He brags about his grandiose life

That’s what makes it funny

It’s the contrast from his storytelling and reality

My mother was a waitress raising me she was no snob in raising me

My dad was a retail manager and was not home much

But one thing that makes you unable to understand me here or in life

I would not have begged in front of a store

That’s not Nobel

I don’t respect it

My currency was athleticism

In a way still is

So go preach to the guy on the corner and give him your last dollar

It might just be the very dollar someone gave to you back in the day

And where I come from a trailer has wheels

As it trails behind a motor vehicle

If a house has wheels on its subframe,  which the pic you provide does , even has wheel covers on it

It’s what’s  known as a “ trailer “

[epic is back]

Oh you said bagger

Sorry to say you begged I misread what you wrote

But do not preach to me or defend a guy who would rather knock your teeth out (melvin) then share a beer with you

Grow a pair

[Al Doggity]

my company has gone fully remote; we save millions alone on rent(we're in nyc) which we've passed on to the employees that is on top of the money\time the average employee saves by not having to commute in nyc. More so we track metrics that show we're way more productive working from home

NYCer here,  too.  At my company, during March there was a huge slowdown and most of what carried through June/July was mainly because of the uncertainty of how  industry and the general public were going to move forward.  By September, we just fully embraced being a remote workforce and we were seeing across the board gains in productivity. We're likely to break several sales and revenue records this year.  For better or worse, there are a lot of companies that haven't been negatively impacted by covid.

Even before covid, a  huge percentage of white collar jobs gave you the option of telecommuting a few times a week. At my company, there had already been a lot of internal debate about more telecommuting options. There was  discussion (and I was hopeful) that we would transition to permanently remote as a result of covid, but  near the end of October we were notified that most of our offices were planned to open back up in mid '21, even though there will be a slightly wider array of remote options. It's never been a secret that a lot of what  occurs during normal office hours is glorified busy work to pad a work day. Yes, people are doing a lot of pointless zoom meetings now, but people were doing a lot of pointless in-person meetings a year ago. 

Obviously, there have been a lot of sectors and individual companies decimated over the last year and I'm not downplaying how hard they've been hit, but I don't think there's gonna be a massive wave of firings that will take people by surprise. If your job is gonna be gone because of covid sometime next year, you already have a good idea of that.  A lot of companies in high COL areas are offering remote workers relocation bonuses to move to cheaper parts of the country. My company offered a 12 month guarantee and I've seen that some places are even offering 18 month guarantees.

I've seen it argued that automation never really decreases jobs. It may have a negative impact on specific jobs, but almost always results in a net increase. 

[epic is back]

Glad your doing well
And have a “ job”

Power outages

Yeah ,, about that remote thing in your pajamas ......

[Primemuscle]

Haha, how soft is our society that we have people sitting around paying somebody else to go through the drive thru?

If having enough money to pay someone else to run your chores is soft, so be it.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Well, one thing I like about working from home is that I can choose the setup and equipment I like rather than having to use company materials.  I have a much larger desk which is cherry hardwood instead of laminate,   I have Dual Monitors like I had before but much larger and sharper, and a Logitech advanced wireless keyboard and mouse from Sam's Club which is much more durable and comfortable for a long work day.




The biggest issue I had was that my home is out in the country where there is no cable or fiber internet and couldn't use DSL which is why I was planning to move to TD Ameritrade as I needed reliable high speed internet.   Fortunately, after consulting with 5G Store and letting them know my issue, they set me up with a Pepwave BR1 4GLTE Enterprise Router.   Shelled out 600 bucks but well worth it .   It has a dual sim slot in which I have an ATT sim for my primary service and have a Verizon sim in for backup, SpeedFusion Cloud service...overall, just fast and reliable along with no wifi on it so no moron can access it



If any of you folks ever work from home then I'd go to 5GStore.com.  Now I'm going to bed

[honest]

Told my staff when i approve work from home, it will be for people who's homes are in countries where wages are much lower, that was the end of it.

[Humble Narcissist]

Told my staff when i approve work from home, it will be for people who's homes are in countries where wages are much lower, that was the end of it.

  That's what people don't understand.  They are expendable.  Why pay a big salary and benefits when you can pay someone in Dubai, India a dollar an hour with no benefits?