Voter Fraud in favor of Biden

[Dave D]

Both sides knew pretty closely how those absentee ballots were gonna break even though they had t been opened yet.

That was the whole reason Trump came out and started crying on election night. He knew he had lost already. The votes just had to be revealed to show that.

What does this have to do with you saying that Trump wasn’t leading at the close of polls on November 3rd?

Biden won. It’s over.

[jwb]

https://www.pa.gov/

Trump got 15% in Philadelphia county in 2016 but 17% in 2020. He improved in the blackest county there is.

The problem is he dropped in the outlying counties.

                               2016.               2020

Bucks.                         47%.              46%

Montgomery.               37%.              36%

Delaware.                    37%.              36%

Chester.                       43%.              40%

In Philly, Clinton got 82% of the vote and Biden 81%.

There was no late night surge for Biden the votes were already in and he didn’t do as well as Clinton in Philly county.

That also explains why Clinton didn’t concede on election night in 2016. The smaller amount of absentee ballots in all those states were breaking heavily in her favor and she knew it but she should have realized it wasn’t enough.

Don’t forget. Both parties get access to who has returned absentee ballots as they are returned. That is why some people vote early so both parties will stop calling and sending them stuff.

They can cross reference who has sent in ballots with their list of who is registered with their party. Those people will almost always vote along party lines. From this they know pretty closely how those absentee votes will turn out in advance.

[Coach is Back!]

https://www.pa.gov/

Trump got 15% in Philadelphia county in 2016 but 17% in 2020. He improved in the blackest county there is.

The problem is he dropped in the outlying counties.

                               2016.               2020

Bucks.                         47%.              46%

Montgomery.               37%.              36%

Delaware.                    37%.              36%

Chester.                       43%.              40%

In Philly, Clinton got 82% of the vote and Biden 81%.

There was no late night surge for Biden the votes were already in and he didn’t do as well as Clinton in Philly county.

That also explains why Clinton didn’t concede on election night in 2016. The smaller amount of absentee ballots in all those states were breaking heavily in her favor and she knew it but she should have realized it wasn’t enough.

Don’t forget. Both parties get access to who has returned absentee ballots as they are returned. That is why some people vote early so both parties will stop calling and sending them stuff.

They can cross reference who has sent in ballots with their list of who is registered with their party. Those people will almost always vote along party lines. From this they know pretty closely how those absentee votes will turn out in advance.

What part of he was ahead by 600k votes on election night when they stopped counting at 9pm that night are you missing? This isn’t hyperbole bud, it’s documented fact

[Agnostic007]

What part of he was ahead by 600k votes on election night when they stopped counting at 9pm that night are you missing? This isn’t hyperbole bud, it’s documented fact

seems like republican election officials and or judges would have snapped on that. Good catch Coach. I'm sure your info is more reliable that whatever horseshit they used when investigating the claims or what made it into court.... 

[Methyl m1ke]

Quite the contrary, if it were thrown out, it would destroy a democracy that has been in place for 243 years. If the election were overturned and the House as opposed to the electoral/popular vote were used to decide the winner, it would go to Trump because each state gets only one vote and more states voted for Trump. Biden however won both the popular vote and the electoral college vote. Both of which reflect the will of the people.

According to a December 13 article in the Epoch Times

President Donald Trump’s legal team is planning on filing retooled lawsuits, his lawyer said Saturday.

“We move immediately, seamlessly, to plan B, which is to bring lawsuits now in each one of the states. We had them ready. They’re just a version of the one that was brought in the Supreme Court. So last night, the president made the decision,” Rudy Giuliani said.

They are beating a dead horse.

Spot on post.

This seems like it's never going to end...

[jwb]

What part of he was ahead by 600k votes on election night when they stopped counting at 9pm that night are you missing? This isn’t hyperbole bud, it’s documented fact

yep trump got CRUSHED in the absentee votes in Pennsylvania that were counted last.

[Primemuscle]

This tread has become almost as tiresome as Trump's repetitious lawsuits and appeals that have gone nowhere and will go nowhere, but "his team" keeps filing them anyway. It's all pointless.

[LurkerNoMore]

HAhAHAHA Trumpies are going to continue to clutch their excuses like a life preserver so they don't drown in their own tears.

[epic is back]

Spot on post.

This seems like it's never going to end...

Good think we threw out that democracy we never were

Republic

It’ s always  been

[Grape Ape]

I dare say its a stupid question but can it really be true there is only questions of fraud in swing states?

I imagine they won't question fraud in states that don't help their cause, but your point is valid.

[epic is back]

No kidding

They will be sad

When all “ trumptards” leave their states and no one subsidizes them


“Where did the Money go ?  ”they will cry

[kilsong]

Where's Coach?
This is gonna be a bad day for him now that reality is setting in.
I too fear for his safety.

[Grape Ape]

Where's Coach?
This is gonna be a bad day for him now that reality is setting in.
I too fear for his safety.

Why?  He said he didn't expect the election to be overturned.

Also, fuck off gimmick.

[LurkerNoMore]

I dare say its a stupid question but can it really be true there is only questions of fraud in swing states?

A better question is if there is fraud in swing states, wouldn't it make sense for them to rig it so Dem senators won too?

You mean more Republicans voted for Republican senators than they did for Trump?  Actually, yes they did, but it's fun to hear the excuses about it...

[Moontrane]

yep trump got CRUSHED in the absentee votes in Pennsylvania that were counted last.

https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horowitz-new-analysis-shows-biden-winning-nearly-impossible-margins-on-mail-in-ballots-in-pennsylvania

And speaking of signature validation, this statistical anomaly should lend a lot of suspicion to the already questionably low rejection rate of mail-in ballots this year. According to the 2016 Election Administration and Voting Survey, the rejection rate last election was just a tad under 1% in the Keystone State, even though there were only 266K mail-in ballots, which are mainly those who have experience filling out absentee ballots. This year, with 2.6 million mail-ins, consisting primarily of first-timers, we are to believe that just 0.038% were invalid?

Some estimates show that mail-in ballots from first-timers are three times more likely to be rejected. Yet we are to believe the acceptance rate this year was 27 times higher than in 2016?

Can you imagine what we would find if there was an attempt to audit and match all 2.6 million ballots for valid signatures and other information? Even Barack Obama, during his March 2008 primary with Hillary Clinton, raised concerns about the need to verify signatures on mail-in ballots.

Voters used mail-in ballots this spring for the first time In a NYC district, where the rejection rate was 21%.  The 0.038% rejection rate in PA with 2.2M new mail-ins is unbelievable.

Switch the circumstances for Biden and Trump, and the outrage from the legacy media over the many election irregularities would be loud and continuous.   

[jwb]

Voters used mail-in ballots this spring for the first time In a NYC district, where the rejection rate was 21%.  The 0.038% rejection rate in PA with 2.2M new mail-ins is unbelievable.

Switch the circumstances for Biden and Trump, and the outrage from the legacy media over the many election irregularities would be loud and continuous.

The PA Supreme Court said they couldn’t reject because of signatures for this election. I have no idea why. That applied to voters of both parties though because the signature envelopes are removed from the ballot long before the ballot is revealed and by different people.

Don’t forget, they know exactly what ballot gets sent out to what people and the ballot that comes back has to be the same one with the same barcode. The counting machines don’t accept ballots that weren’t sent out and then returned to the county clerk.

Having said that the rejection rate in most states is less than 1%.

What district supposedly had a 20% rejection rate?

[Moontrane]

I switched names for effect:

"On Election Night, Democrat President Trump received almost 7,800 votes out of 12,423, according to county officials. Two days later, the officials said the county actually went to presidential nominee Joe Biden. On November 21, officials updated their figures again, removing roughly 1,300 votes from Trump."

This would be front-page news everywhere if Biden were behind:

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2020/12/mi-judge-approves-release-of-audit-showing-68-error-rates-in-countys-dominion-voting-software/

Thirteenth Circuit Judge Kevin Elsenheimer ordered the removal of a protective order preventing the 23-page report conducted by Allied Security Operations Group from being released after attorney Matthew DePerno pushed for transparency in a court hearing. In the report, Russell Ramsland Jr., co-founder of Allied Security Operations Group, said Antrim County’s server showed 15,676 individual events, with 68 percent reporting errors.
 
“The allowable election error rate established by the Federal Election Commission guidelines is of 1 in 250,000 ballots (.0008%). We observed an error rate of 68.05%. This demonstrated a significant and fatal error in security and election integrity,” the report stated.

[Moontrane]

The PA Supreme Court said they couldn’t reject because of signatures for this election. I have no idea why. That applied to voters of both parties though because the signature envelopes are removed from the ballot long before the ballot is revealed and by different people.

Don’t forget, they know exactly what ballot gets sent out to what people and the ballot that comes back has to be the same one with the same barcode. The counting machines don’t accept ballots that weren’t sent out and then returned to the county clerk.

Having said that the rejection rate in most states is less than 1%.

What district supposedly had a 20% rejection rate?

Sorry, I should have include a link. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/one-five-mail-ballots-rejected-botched-nyc-primary-n1236143

More than 1 in 5 mail-in ballots were rejected in New York City during the state primary June 23, the city’s certified election results revealed this week.

City election officials rejected 84,000 ballots — 21 percent of all those received by election officials. More than 403,000 ballots were returned to election officials, according to city data, but only about 319,000 absentee ballots were counted, the certified results showed. The figure was first reported by the New York Post.

For comparison, Los Angeles County processed nearly four times as many ballots but rejected only 17,743 ballots, according to state data provided to NBC News. Their mail-in ballot rejection rate was 1.53 percent.

[Dave D]

The PA Supreme Court said they couldn’t reject because of signatures for this election. I have no idea why. That applied to voters of both parties though because the signature envelopes are removed from the ballot long before the ballot is revealed and by different people.

Don’t forget, they know exactly what ballot gets sent out to what people and the ballot that comes back has to be the same one with the same barcode. The counting machines don’t accept ballots that weren’t sent out and then returned to the county clerk.

Having said that the rejection rate in most states is less than 1%.

What district supposedly had a 20% rejection rate?

You keep quoting the bar codes that were sent out on the ballots and because of this officials know who is returning what but I had already shared my experience where I received ballots for the former owners of my home and they haven’t lived in the state in 3 years.

I handed in my ballot in person with out showing any ID, I was only asked if it was my ballot.

I could have easily  submitted the old owners ballots on a separate visit. So what happens then?

I’m not suggesting there were enough cases like mine where votes could sway the election but it’s not out of the question to say that there was fraud.

[Primemuscle]

Voters used mail-in ballots this spring for the first time In a NYC district, where the rejection rate was 21%.  The 0.038% rejection rate in PA with 2.2M new mail-ins is unbelievable.

Switch the circumstances for Biden and Trump, and the outrage from the legacy media over the many election irregularities would be loud and continuous.

Or...folks in NYC aren't very smart when it comes to voting by mail.

Social media users have been sharing content online that claims Georgia rejected “almost zero” ballots in the 2020 election and around 4% in the previous election years. The claim, echoed on Twitter by President Trump, is untrue.

Georgia SoS says that in the 2016 Presidential election, 580 out of 246,621 absentee by mail ballots were rejected for “missing or inaccurate oath information” with a rejection rate of 0.24%

In the 2018 general election, 454 out of 284,393 absentee by mail ballots were rejected for missing or non-matching signatures with a rejection rate of 0.15%

In 2020, 2,011 out of 1,322,529 absentee by mail ballots were rejected for missing or non-matching signatures with a rejection rate of 0.15%.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-georgia-rejected-ballots-fo/fact-check-georgia-rejected-ballots-did-not-go-from-4-to-almost-zero-in-2020-idUSKBN2832CM

According to Ballotpedia, as of December 11, 2020, New York State has not provided a rejection rate for this election. Care to share your information source on this?

[Dave D]

Or...folks in NYC aren't very smart when it comes to voting by mail.

Social media users have been sharing content online that claims Georgia rejected “almost zero” ballots in the 2020 election and around 4% in the previous election years. The claim, echoed on Twitter by President Trump, is untrue.

Georgia SoS says that in the 2016 Presidential election, 580 out of 246,621 absentee by mail ballots were rejected for “missing or inaccurate oath information” with a rejection rate of 0.24%

In the 2018 general election, 454 out of 284,393 absentee by mail ballots were rejected for missing or non-matching signatures with a rejection rate of 0.15%

In 2020, 2,011 out of 1,322,529 absentee by mail ballots were rejected for missing or non-matching signatures with a rejection rate of 0.15%.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-georgia-rejected-ballots-fo/fact-check-georgia-rejected-ballots-did-not-go-from-4-to-almost-zero-in-2020-idUSKBN2832CM

According to Ballotpedia, as of December 11, 2020, New York State has not provided a rejection rate for this election. Care to share your information source on this?

He did Prime:

Sorry, I should have include a link. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/one-five-mail-ballots-rejected-botched-nyc-primary-n1236143

More than 1 in 5 mail-in ballots were rejected in New York City during the state primary June 23, the city’s certified election results revealed this week.

City election officials rejected 84,000 ballots — 21 percent of all those received by election officials. More than 403,000 ballots were returned to election officials, according to city data, but only about 319,000 absentee ballots were counted, the certified results showed. The figure was first reported by the New York Post.

For comparison, Los Angeles County processed nearly four times as many ballots but rejected only 17,743 ballots, according to state data provided to NBC News. Their mail-in ballot rejection rate was 1.53 percent.

Strange NBC news would report lies from social media.

[Primemuscle]

Sorry, I should have include a link. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/one-five-mail-ballots-rejected-botched-nyc-primary-n1236143

More than 1 in 5 mail-in ballots were rejected in New York City during the state primary June 23, the city’s certified election results revealed this week.

City election officials rejected 84,000 ballots — 21 percent of all those received by election officials. More than 403,000 ballots were returned to election officials, according to city data, but only about 319,000 absentee ballots were counted, the certified results showed. The figure was first reported by the New York Post.

For comparison, Los Angeles County processed nearly four times as many ballots but rejected only 17,743 ballots, according to state data provided to NBC News. Their mail-in ballot rejection rate was 1.53 percent.

Just so you know, the Nov. 3, 2020 election was the  general and not the primary as is referred to in the link you provided.

[jwb]

You keep quoting the bar codes that were sent out on the ballots and because of this officials know who is returning what but I had already shared my experience where I received ballots for the former owners of my home and they haven’t lived in the state in 3 years.

I handed in my ballot in person with out showing any ID, I was only asked if it was my ballot.

I could have easily  submitted the old owners ballots on a separate visit. So what happens then?

I’m not suggesting there were enough cases like mine where votes could sway the election but it’s not out of the question to say that there was fraud.

are you in PA?

[Straw Man]

What part of he was ahead by 600k votes on election night when they stopped counting at 9pm that night are you missing? This isn’t hyperbole bud, it’s documented fact

This has been explained to you MANY times on this site
Most states were not allowed to start counting ballots until election day
In person votes were counted first then absentee, mail in, provisional etc...

You're complaining that your team was up at half time and now you can't understand how they could have lost the game.  Do they just stop playing at half time and declare whoever is ahead the winner?

[Primemuscle]

He did Prime:

Strange NBC news would report lies from social media.

Right, he did provide a link, but was to an article about the primary. The contested election is the general.