Voter Fraud in favor of Biden

[AbrahamG]

From what I heard on the radio today the emphasis seems to have shifted away from fraudulent ballots and toward illegal changes to laws being made last minute which favored the left.

What's funny is that my housemate here told me back hmmm in June or July that it looked like mail in ballots would be a big thing because of the pandemic. This benefits the left hugely because historically Republicans are more active voters but if given the chance more people would vote if they could do it without leaving the house and the percentages would heavily favor Democrats. That is exactly what happened.

I still think Trump fixated on the mail in ballots because it was a target lawyers could sink their teeth into but ultimately covid was going to bring him down no matter what. That's not to say covid is Trump's fault or anything that's just how it is. If Democrats had been in office covid would have brought them down to.

I am also officially done with political topics. I have never been so unhappy and argumentative in all my life as I have been this past year. You guys can have at it.

Voting should be easier for everyone in this country.  It should also be more than one day.  I'd like to see a long weekend of in person voting at a minimum.

Trump fucked himself via the Corona virus.  Had he spoken to the masses like he did in that 60 minutes interview in February a couple things would have happened.  His followers would have masked up and practices social distancing.  Leading to us already climbing out of this mess and he would have been re-elected.  He was too stupid/stubborn to get out of his own way.

[Al Doggity]

Rudy Giuliani: Audit Dominion Machines In Key States
By ProTrumpNews Staff

THE REPORT:

After the forensic examination of 16 Dominion Voting machines in Antrim, Co. MI, Allied Security Operations Group has concluded that the Dominion Voting machines were assigned a 68.05% error rate. DePerno explained that when ballots are put through the machine, a whopping 68.05% error rate means that 68.05% of the ballots are sent for bulk adjudication, which means they collect the ballots in a folder. “The ballots are sent somewhere where people in another location can change the vote,” DePerno explained.


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/rudy-giuliani-calls-audit-dominion-machines-key-states/


Dominion Voting machines were assigned a 68.05% error rate

That is not what that means at all. I looked this up because it sounded preposterous. 

https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/12/15/trump-fact-check-defect-voting-machines-michigan/3902951001/


Moreover, the error rate identified by Ramsland is not a measure of ballot counting errors. Ramsland did not have access to the paper ballots as part of his investigation, according to Jake Rollow, a spokesman for the Secretary of State’s office. Ramsland acknowledged that he was not referring to ballot tabulation errors, even though the purported benchmark he compared it to is “1 in 250,000 ballots.”

Rather, Ramsland wrote, the error rate applies to the 15,676 “total lines or events” in Antrim’s tabulation logs. “Most of the errors were related to configuration errors that could result in overall tabulation error or adjudication,” he wrote, without giving more details or saying that they did result in such errors.

The EAC certification requirements that Antrim’s Dominion machines had to meet establish certain error thresholds for the computer code that runs the systems, but the tabulation logs track something else.

Tammy Patrick, a senior adviser to the elections program at the Washington, D.C.-based Democracy Fund, explained in an email to the Free Press that tabulation logs “aren’t the lines of code that run the system. They're logs of activities occurring in the process of tabulation. The lines of code that are reviewed in certification are the actual software codes." She said Ramsland’s report was “confusing many, many things.”

The Free Press called Allied Security Operations Group and left a voice message requesting to speak with Ramsland. The call was not returned. The White House and Trump campaign did not respond to email inquiries regarding Trump’s tweet. And the EAC also did not respond to requests for additional information regarding its certification process.

State officials say they are not sure what Ramsland is referencing when he reports a 68% error rate.

[LurkerNoMore]

VOTER FRAUD CONFIRMED!!!

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Officials finally found a case of a dead person voting, accusing a Republican of pretending to be his dead mom to vote for Trump.

Bruce Bartman has been charged with unlawful voting and perjury over allegations that he pretended to be his dead mother to cast a ballot in the November election for President Donald Trump in Pennsylvania.

Delaware County District Attorney Jack Stollsteimer announced the charges in a press release Monday. Bartman was arraigned Friday and released on $100,000 bail, according to The Philadelphia Inquirer. If convicted on all charges, the 70-year-old Bartman could spend up to 19 years in prison.

"This is the only known case of a 'dead person' voting in our county, conspiracy theories notwithstanding," Stollsteimer said in a statement. "Further, the prompt prosecution of this case shows that law enforcement will continue to uphold our election laws whenever presented with actual evidence of fraud and that we will continue to investigate every allegation that that comes our way."

[AbrahamG]

VOTER FRAUD CONFIRMED!!!

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Officials finally found a case of a dead person voting, accusing a Republican of pretending to be his dead mom to vote for Trump.

Bruce Bartman has been charged with unlawful voting and perjury over allegations that he pretended to be his dead mother to cast a ballot in the November election for President Donald Trump in Pennsylvania.

Delaware County District Attorney Jack Stollsteimer announced the charges in a press release Monday. Bartman was arraigned Friday and released on $100,000 bail, according to The Philadelphia Inquirer. If convicted on all charges, the 70-year-old Bartman could spend up to 19 years in prison.

"This is the only known case of a 'dead person' voting in our county, conspiracy theories notwithstanding," Stollsteimer said in a statement. "Further, the prompt prosecution of this case shows that law enforcement will continue to uphold our election laws whenever presented with actual evidence of fraud and that we will continue to investigate every allegation that that comes our way."

I knew it.  I just fucking knew it. 

[LurkerNoMore]

BUT WAIT!!!  THERE'S MORE!!!  NOW FAUX AND NEWSMACK HAVE STARTED DEBUNKING THEIR OWN LIES.

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Fox News and Newsmax, facing lawsuits, walk back wild fraud claims about voting-machine companies.

Facing the threat of lawsuits for defamation, Fox News and the upstart right-wing network Newsmax have begun broadcasting segments walking back wild election fraud allegations against voting-machine and software manufacturers Smartmatic and Dominion.

“Newsmax would like to clarify its news coverage and note that it has not reported as true certain claims made about these companies,” host John Tabacco said Monday, attributing the “opinions and claims” to “various guests, attorneys and elected officials” who appeared on the network. The charges, which the companies say are baseless and have been widely mocked as ridiculous, originated with former Trump lawyer Sidney Powell, who accused the two companies of conspiring with Democrats and the Venezuelan government to tip the election to Joe Biden.

Facing the threat of lawsuits for defamation, Fox News and the upstart right-wing network Newsmax have begun broadcasting segments walking back wild election fraud allegations against voting-machine and software manufacturers Smartmatic and Dominion.

“Newsmax would like to clarify its news coverage and note that it has not reported as true certain claims made about these companies,” host John Tabacco said Monday, attributing the “opinions and claims” to “various guests, attorneys and elected officials” who appeared on the network. The charges, which the companies say are baseless and have been widely mocked as ridiculous, originated with former Trump lawyer Sidney Powell, who accused the two companies of conspiring with Democrats and the Venezuelan government to tip the election to Joe Biden.

“Newsmax has found no evidence that either Dominion or Smartmatic owns the other or has any business association with each other,” Tabacco said. “We have no evidence that Dominion uses Smartmatic’s software or vice versa. No evidence has been offered that Dominion or Smartmatic use software or reprogram software that manipulated votes in the 2020 election.”

Tabacco also noted that Smartmatic’s software was only used in Los Angeles during the 2020 election, and not in the battleground states where the Trump campaign has alleged that fraud propelled Biden to victory.

On Friday, Fox News began airing a pretaped retraction of many of the claims made in recent weeks on the network. It took the form of an interview with Open Source Election Technology Institute director Eddie Perez and first aired on “Lou Dobbs Tonight.”

[LurkerNoMore]

I knew it.  I just fucking knew it. 

Now all the Trumtards can sit back and watch how lawsuits and courts actually work when this idiot gets his due. 

[Primemuscle]

Rudy Giuliani: Audit Dominion Machines In Key States
By ProTrumpNews Staff

THE REPORT:

After the forensic examination of 16 Dominion Voting machines in Antrim, Co. MI, Allied Security Operations Group has concluded that the Dominion Voting machines were assigned a 68.05% error rate. DePerno explained that when ballots are put through the machine, a whopping 68.05% error rate means that 68.05% of the ballots are sent for bulk adjudication, which means they collect the ballots in a folder. “The ballots are sent somewhere where people in another location can change the vote,” DePerno explained.


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/rudy-giuliani-calls-audit-dominion-machines-key-states/


Dominion Voting machines were assigned a 68.05% error rate

Isn't funny how one word can totally alter a statement? There's a couple of these operatives in the comments above which are standout examples of this. The first one being the use of the word 'whopping' which also means massive, enormous, gigantic etc. This is someone's opinion. 68% seems like a lot to me too, but like with most readers, we don't know if that is the norm or something unusual. If it is the norm with Dominion machines, why are they being used in vote counting whether it's this election or previous ones? If it isn't the norm, does this mean someone intentionally altered the machines error rate? Moreover, an error rate would affect all the ballots the machine processed regardless of which candidate was voted was for. An equal opportunity error.

The next word which is IMO actually more ambiguous is the use of the word 'can' which in the context of these statements implies that they were changed. Most people reading this are not going to pause to realize just because something can happen it doesn't mean that the people in this other location did change them.

What isn't explained at all is what kinds of machine errors are possible or even likely.  It is also not explained exactly what happens when an error is discovered and the ballot goes to this other place. Do they get tossed or do they get hand counted. Guess that would depend on what the error is.

This is another personal observation and conclusion, but if this is what Trump's attorneys are presenting to the courts, it is no surprise the judges are refusing to hear the complaint or after hearing it, throwing it and the case out.

[Primemuscle]

From the above cited article:

"We further conclude that the results of Antrim County should not have been certified."

Trump won in Antrim County. A recount actually added a dozen votes to Trump and subtracted one from Biden. Why is Guiliani seeking to de-certify the vote in a county were his client won?

What is more likely going on here is an effort to delay or disrupt the inevitable, which is that Biden won the election and Trump didn't.

[Agnostic007]

BUT WAIT!!!  THERE'S MORE!!!  NOW FAUX AND NEWSMACK HAVE STARTED DEBUNKING THEIR OWN LIES.

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Fox News and Newsmax, facing lawsuits, walk back wild fraud claims about voting-machine companies.

Facing the threat of lawsuits for defamation, Fox News and the upstart right-wing network Newsmax have begun broadcasting segments walking back wild election fraud allegations against voting-machine and software manufacturers Smartmatic and Dominion.

“Newsmax would like to clarify its news coverage and note that it has not reported as true certain claims made about these companies,” host John Tabacco said Monday, attributing the “opinions and claims” to “various guests, attorneys and elected officials” who appeared on the network. The charges, which the companies say are baseless and have been widely mocked as ridiculous, originated with former Trump lawyer Sidney Powell, who accused the two companies of conspiring with Democrats and the Venezuelan government to tip the election to Joe Biden.

Facing the threat of lawsuits for defamation, Fox News and the upstart right-wing network Newsmax have begun broadcasting segments walking back wild election fraud allegations against voting-machine and software manufacturers Smartmatic and Dominion.

“Newsmax would like to clarify its news coverage and note that it has not reported as true certain claims made about these companies,” host John Tabacco said Monday, attributing the “opinions and claims” to “various guests, attorneys and elected officials” who appeared on the network. The charges, which the companies say are baseless and have been widely mocked as ridiculous, originated with former Trump lawyer Sidney Powell, who accused the two companies of conspiring with Democrats and the Venezuelan government to tip the election to Joe Biden.

“Newsmax has found no evidence that either Dominion or Smartmatic owns the other or has any business association with each other,” Tabacco said. “We have no evidence that Dominion uses Smartmatic’s software or vice versa. No evidence has been offered that Dominion or Smartmatic use software or reprogram software that manipulated votes in the 2020 election.”

Tabacco also noted that Smartmatic’s software was only used in Los Angeles during the 2020 election, and not in the battleground states where the Trump campaign has alleged that fraud propelled Biden to victory.

On Friday, Fox News began airing a pretaped retraction of many of the claims made in recent weeks on the network. It took the form of an interview with Open Source Election Technology Institute director Eddie Perez and first aired on “Lou Dobbs Tonight.”

What's sad is even when those pro Trump stations walk back the misinformation they intentionally put out there to stir up the base, the ship has sailed. Not ONE Trump voter who believes the election was stolen will say "Damn, I was really gullible and jumped on stories that supported my preconceived notions... man I feel stupid." They'll merely do what they are doing to Barr, the Supreme court and Mitch McConnel  the republican judges, the republican election officials and claim conspiracy, deep state and traitorous behavior. It couldn't actually be that they were wrong... hell no.. it's that everybody else is... 

[Straw Man]

From what I heard on the radio today the emphasis seems to have shifted away from fraudulent ballots and toward illegal changes to laws being made last minute which favored the left.

What's funny is that my housemate here told me back hmmm in June or July that it looked like mail in ballots would be a big thing because of the pandemic. This benefits the left hugely because historically Republicans are more active voters but if given the chance more people would vote if they could do it without leaving the house and the percentages would heavily favor Democrats. That is exactly what happened.

I still think Trump fixated on the mail in ballots because it was a target lawyers could sink their teeth into but ultimately covid was going to bring him down no matter what. That's not to say covid is Trump's fault or anything that's just how it is. If Democrats had been in office covid would have brought them down to.

I am also officially done with political topics. I have never been so unhappy and argumentative in all my life as I have been this past year. You guys can have at it.

do you have any actual details on this

I'm wondering if what you heard about was a law passed in Pennsylvania in 2019 that legalized no-excuse mail-in voting was approved overwhelming by Republicans.   

[Primemuscle]

What's sad is even when those pro Biden stations walk back the misinformation they intentionally put out there to stir up the base, the ship has sailed. Not ONE Trump voter who believes the election was stolen will say "Damn, I was really gullible and jumped on stories that supported my preconceived notions... man I feel stupid." They'll merely do what they are doing to Barr, the Supreme court and Mitch McConnel  the republican judges, the republican election officials and claim conspiracy, deep state and traitorous behavior. It couldn't actually be that they were wrong... hell no.. it's that everybody else is...

I must admit that I am a little confused by the first sentence in your post. It must be my senility kicking in....darn.

Possibly the most adamant Trump supporters will hang on to what they'd hoped for for as long as is humanly possible. Giving up on a dream can be arduous. In 2016, a lot of people believed Trump was their savior and that he'd right all that many thought had gone awry in the U.S. That doesn't mean they are bad or stupid people. They just bet on the wrong person and lost. Losing is really hard. Calling TDS, whether real or imposed on those of us who just don't like the man and who were willing to express it, are proof of it.

All the contention that has gone on in the world, particularly in the U.S. is definitely mirrored in this micronism known as Getbig. Yeah, it's "the Thunderdome" as Wes likes to remind us. This maybe excuses some of the hateful and vulgar insults some have made against others just because they resided on one side or the other of a political wall. Sad that after all this time we humans have failed to learn how to relate to each other in ways that are positive and constructive. We tribes have been at each other's throats since the dawn of time.

Yup, I never liked Trump....meaning long before he was elected. Unfortunately, he lived up to all my worst expectations and continues to do so even as he has devolved deeper into this incredibly sad person. I cannot help but wonder how those closest to him, his family and his cronies, feel right now. If they love him, they must be worried. If all they want is a piece of his financial wealth or fame, well then, they should be worried.  If he were my brother or friend, I'd be worried about what he'll do next. To those looking objectively at what is going on with him, it appears he's going if not already gone off the deep end.

One by one, people will jump the Trump ship. The less they think he can do for them the quicker they will seek out the nearest life raft. Will he be the last person standing or will someone, anyone stand with him while the ship sinks? With no inside information, I going to go out on a limb and say that Trump's problems are just beginning. It's looking like he's not welcome at his Florida home. Surely legal battles will ensue and if what we've seen thus far continues, he'll drag this out for as long as he can, despite the anguish and embarrassment it will most likely bring upon wife and son.

I guess there's hope for those folks who care about him as long as he still has the impetus to tweet nonsense. It's an outlet...maybe the one he most needs but that is doing him the most harm. In his words....Sad.   

[Palumboism]

COMPUTERS WERE WIPED CLEAN ON NOVEMBER 4:

DePerno told us that the report shows “internet and adjudication files were wiped clean on Nov. 4th,” adding “They destroyed election results!—They destroyed election results in a violation of state law.” He told us, “They were required to keep these records for two years after the election, and they deleted them!”


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/rudy-giuliani-calls-audit-dominion-machines-key-states/

Forensic report:
https://www.scribd.com/document/488107901/Antrim-Michigan-Forensics-Report-121320-v2-REDACTED

Nothings being hidden here.  Nothing at all.

[Al Doggity]

https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/12/15/trump-fact-check-defect-voting-machines-michigan/3902951001/

Moreover, the error rate identified by Ramsland is not a measure of ballot counting errors. Ramsland did not have access to the paper ballots as part of his investigation, according to Jake Rollow, a spokesman for the Secretary of State’s office. Ramsland acknowledged that he was not referring to ballot tabulation errors, even though the purported benchmark he compared it to is “1 in 250,000 ballots.”

Rather, Ramsland wrote, the error rate applies to the 15,676 “total lines or events” in Antrim’s tabulation logs. “Most of the errors were related to configuration errors that could result in overall tabulation error or adjudication,” he wrote, without giving more details or saying that they did result in such errors.

Ramsland is the guy who wrote the report you posted. There weren't intentional ballot errors. There was a configuration error caused by the REPUBLICAN county clerk that resulted in temporary data irregularities.

[basil]

I used to come to getbig just for the expert medical and public health advice.  Now I come her for lessons in quantitative methods too.

[French]

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[Primemuscle]

Are you talking mail-in voting where everyone registered receives a ballot whether they want it or not and no verification that the person the ballot is sent to is indeed that person or absentee voting where you have to go through a specific process to vote?

Yup! Everyone who is registered to vote and still living at this address is sent a ballot. Each of us fills out our own ballot, if we choose to vote. When returning the ballot, we can use the secrecy sleeve or not (it isn't required for the vote to be counted) and then put it in the supplied return envelope and sign it.

In this election I dropped mine off at the drop box in front of city hall. Sometimes I mail my ballot in. Should I neglect to sign the envelope or should my signature not match the one that's on file at the county elections office my ballot is voided. If I were curious and wanted to track my ballot, there is a system for doing that.

I guess it's possible that one of us could fill out more than one ballot, but it would require the correct signature. I suppose one of us could sign more than one ballot and risk being charged with fraud. It is almost certain that one would be invalidated because you cannot vote twice in the same election. 

Another possibility is that under certain circumstances, like if I changed my address or made a change on my registration, I could be sent another ballot. There’s only one ballot, at any given time that is valid- and the other one is inactive and can’t be voted. No one can vote twice.

Is there a possibility that something could go awry. Of course anything is possible. In Oregon, over the past three decades there have been about a dozen cases of fraud. I'd say our system works.

[Agnostic007]

I must admit that I am a little confused by the first sentence in your post. It must be my senility kicking in....darn.

Possibly the most adamant Trump supporters will hang on to what they'd hoped for for as long as is humanly possible. Giving up on a dream can be arduous. In 2016, a lot of people believed Trump was their savior and that he'd right all that many thought had gone awry in the U.S. That doesn't mean they are bad or stupid people. They just bet on the wrong person and lost. Losing is really hard. Calling TDS, whether real or imposed on those of us who just don't like the man and who were willing to express it, are proof of it.

All the contention that has gone on in the world, particularly in the U.S. is definitely mirrored in this micronism known as Getbig. Yeah, it's "the Thunderdome" as Wes likes to remind us. This maybe excuses some of the hateful and vulgar insults some have made against others just because they resided on one side or the other of a political wall. Sad that after all this time we humans have failed to learn how to relate to each other in ways that are positive and constructive. We tribes have been at each other's throats since the dawn of time.

Yup, I never liked Trump....meaning long before he was elected. Unfortunately, he lived up to all my worst expectations and continues to do so even as he has devolved deeper into this incredibly sad person. I cannot help but wonder how those closest to him, his family and his cronies, feel right now. If they love him, they must be worried. If all they want is a piece of his financial wealth or fame, well then, they should be worried.  If he were my brother or friend, I'd be worried about what he'll do next. To those looking objectively at what is going on with him, it appears he's going if not already gone off the deep end.

One by one, people will jump the Trump ship. The less they think he can do for them the quicker they will seek out the nearest life raft. Will he be the last person standing or will someone, anyone stand with him while the ship sinks? With no inside information, I going to go out on a limb and say that Trump's problems are just beginning. It's looking like he's not welcome at his Florida home. Surely legal battles will ensue and if what we've seen thus far continues, he'll drag this out for as long as he can, despite the anguish and embarrassment it will most likely bring upon wife and son.

I guess there's hope for those folks who care about him as long as he still has the impetus to tweet nonsense. It's an outlet...maybe the one he most needs but that is doing him the most harm. In his words....Sad.

No, it was all me. I fixed it. thanks


Good post by the way

[jwb]

Yup! Everyone who is registered to vote and still living at this address is sent a ballot. Each of us fills out our own ballot, if we choose to vote. When returning the ballot, we can use the secrecy sleeve or not (it isn't required for the vote to be counted) and then put it in the supplied return envelope and sign it.

In this election I dropped mine off at the drop box in front of city hall. Sometimes I mail my ballot in. Should I neglect to sign the envelope or should my signature not match the one that's on file at the county elections office my ballot is voided. If I were curious and wanted to track my ballot, there is a system for doing that.

I guess it's possible that one of us could fill out more than one ballot, but it would require the correct signature. I suppose one of us could sign more than one ballot and risk being charged with fraud. It is almost certain that one would be invalidated because you cannot vote twice in the same election. 

Another possibility is that under certain circumstances, like if I changed my address or made a change on my registration, I could be sent another ballot. There’s only one ballot, at any given time that is valid- and the other one is inactive and can’t be voted. No one can vote twice.

Is there a possibility that something could go awry. Of course anything is possible. In Oregon, over the past three decades there have been about a dozen cases of fraud. I'd say our system works.

Many swing states require you to apply for an absentee ballot. They check your signature on the application against their computer records before they even send you a ballot. If it doesn’t match you don’t even get one to fill out.

[Primemuscle]

Many swing states require you to apply for an absentee ballot. They check your signature on the application against their computer records before they even send you a ballot. If it doesn’t match you don’t even get one to fill out.

I'm not usually one to believe in giving up local (state) government control. However, when we have a national election, it only seems right the election rules should be the same in all states if they are given the latitude to reflect the differences between one state to the next. For example states with a larger population like New York and California realistically need more time to count the vote then a state like Oregon or Nebraska.

The unplanned for pandemic's effect on people'a ability to vote safely has really thrown a monkey wrench in our current systems of voting which are actually all over the place depending on where you live. What's to say this election doesn't reflect problems likely to happen in future elections. Election laws should be such that they encourage more people to vote. That only such a small percentage of the population actually votes is not a good thing. Everyone's voice should be heard. But in order for that to happen, people need to be able to step up to the plate and they need to take responsibility for doing so. People who don't bother to vote, IMO, should just shut up when they don't agree with the outcome of an election if they were given every opportunity to do so.

Obviously, I am a proponent of voting by mail. Realistically, if done right, it could eliminate almost all opportunities for errors and fraud. I'm not bragging on Oregon's voting system, but we have been using a vote by mail longer than any other state in the U.S. and therefore we've had a longer time to work through any problems connected with it. As I pointed out in an earlier post, election fraud in Oregon is so minimal the it is nearly non existent. If every state required that mail in ballots be in by a given time on election day, they could be begin to be counted on that day and the nation would have the results in a more timely manner.

In almost every situation, when folks are rushed is when they tend to make the most mistakes. Poll workers are temporary employees who are often paid minimum wage for their work at the polls or in many states something like $100 a day. Considering the level of stress in that job, they are almost volunteering their time for the good of all.

[funk51]

Nina Golgowski·Breaking News Reporter, HuffPost
December 22, 2020, 12:31 PM·3 min read
A Pennsylvania man is facing up to 19 years in prison after prosecutors say he admitted to illegally casting a ballot in the general election for President Donald Trump as his dead mother and also registering his dead mother-in-law to vote with the intent to do the same.

Bruce Bartman, 70, was charged with two counts of perjury and one count of unlawful voting after allegedly registering both deceased women online to vote in the Nov. 3 election using either their driver’s license or social security number, prosecutors said Monday.

“He registered both of his deceased relatives as Republicans and he has admitted to the detectives who questioned him that he did this to further the campaign of Donald Trump,” Delaware County District Attorney Jack Stollsteimer said at a press conference.

Bruce Bartman, 70, was arrested on Friday and charged with two counts of perjury and one count of unlawful voting after allegedly registering his deceased mother and mother-in-law to vote in the November election. (Photo: Delaware County District Attorney’s Office)
Bruce Bartman, 70, was arrested on Friday and charged with two counts of perjury and one count of unlawful voting after allegedly registering his deceased mother and mother-in-law to vote in the November election. (Photo: Delaware County District Attorney’s Office)
Bartman’s ballot for his mother, who died in 2008, was for reasons unknown not caught by the election system and was successfully counted in the election. Bartman, a registered Republican, also successfully submitted a ballot in his own name, Stollsteimer said.

Though Bartman successfully registered his mother-in-law to vote, despite her dying in 2019, he never requested a ballot for her, Stollsteimer said.

During her voter registration, Stollsteimer said the system flagged her as likely being deceased. The state then sent a letter requesting her to confirm that she was indeed still alive. He said Bartman falsified this document and returned it but that he did not request an absentee ballot in her name.

Bartman’s lawyer, Samuel Stretton, told The Philadelphia Inquirer that his client is taking responsibility for his actions and is cooperating with authorities.

“In his political frustration, he chose to do something stupid,” Stretton said. “And for that he is very sorry.”

The county’s top prosecutor stressed that Bartman’s ability to cast a vote on behalf of his deceased mother is not evidence of widespread voter fraud and that they are not prosecuting the case because of who Bartman voted for.

[Primemuscle]

Nina Golgowski·Breaking News Reporter, HuffPost
December 22, 2020, 12:31 PM·3 min read
A Pennsylvania man is facing up to 19 years in prison after prosecutors say he admitted to illegally casting a ballot in the general election for President Donald Trump as his dead mother and also registering his dead mother-in-law to vote with the intent to do the same.

Bruce Bartman, 70, was charged with two counts of perjury and one count of unlawful voting after allegedly registering both deceased women online to vote in the Nov. 3 election using either their driver’s license or social security number, prosecutors said Monday.

“He registered both of his deceased relatives as Republicans and he has admitted to the detectives who questioned him that he did this to further the campaign of Donald Trump,” Delaware County District Attorney Jack Stollsteimer said at a press conference.

Bruce Bartman, 70, was arrested on Friday and charged with two counts of perjury and one count of unlawful voting after allegedly registering his deceased mother and mother-in-law to vote in the November election. (Photo: Delaware County District Attorney’s Office)
Bruce Bartman, 70, was arrested on Friday and charged with two counts of perjury and one count of unlawful voting after allegedly registering his deceased mother and mother-in-law to vote in the November election. (Photo: Delaware County District Attorney’s Office)
Bartman’s ballot for his mother, who died in 2008, was for reasons unknown not caught by the election system and was successfully counted in the election. Bartman, a registered Republican, also successfully submitted a ballot in his own name, Stollsteimer said.

Though Bartman successfully registered his mother-in-law to vote, despite her dying in 2019, he never requested a ballot for her, Stollsteimer said.

During her voter registration, Stollsteimer said the system flagged her as likely being deceased. The state then sent a letter requesting her to confirm that she was indeed still alive. He said Bartman falsified this document and returned it but that he did not request an absentee ballot in her name.

Bartman’s lawyer, Samuel Stretton, told The Philadelphia Inquirer that his client is taking responsibility for his actions and is cooperating with authorities.

“In his political frustration, he chose to do something stupid,” Stretton said. “And for that he is very sorry.”

The county’s top prosecutor stressed that Bartman’s ability to cast a vote on behalf of his deceased mother is not evidence of widespread voter fraud and that they are not prosecuting the case because of who Bartman voted for.

He chose to do something stupid is right. Good thing he didn't request a ballot. That would have been even stupider.

[LurkerNoMore]

Hey Coach, let's hear the latest "news" on this fraud bullshit.  No reason why this thread can't get to 50 pages of self ownage by you.

[epic is back]

From what I heard on the radio today the emphasis seems to have shifted away from fraudulent ballots and toward illegal changes to laws being made last minute which favored the left.

What's funny is that my housemate here told me back hmmm in June or July that it looked like mail in ballots would be a big thing because of the pandemic. This benefits the left hugely because historically Republicans are more active voters but if given the chance more people would vote if they could do it without leaving the house and the percentages would heavily favor Democrats. That is exactly what happened.

I still think Trump fixated on the mail in ballots because it was a target lawyers could sink their teeth into but ultimately covid was going to bring him down no matter what. That's not to say covid is Trump's fault or anything that's just how it is. If Democrats had been in office covid would have brought them down to.

I am also officially done with political topics. I have never been so unhappy and argumentative in all my life as I have been this past year. You guys can have at it.

The “radio” or left propaganda owned and propagation of disinformation

Your “ housemate “ is your keeper

Lefties  don’t vote because yes they are inactive not just physically if you get what I mean

This was all financial

So I give you permission to keep talking about it since it’s not political

Please just get it over with and go get in line for your shot

[LurkerNoMore]

Where is Coach to tell us that "we just don't get it" and spin off another delusional excuse?

[Primemuscle]

Where is Coach to tell us that "we just don't get it" and spin off another delusional excuse?

He's taking a break to celebrate Christmas. Worry not. He'll be back defending Trump's actions soon. I'm curious to see what he'll say when Trump is escorted out of the White House in a few weeks.