I don’t use but have had more than enough experience working out with friends that did. You are seeing something you want to see- you have confirmation bias.
One of my cycling friends decided he wanted to become a big track sprinter. We both weighed almost the same- 165 pounds at 5’9” so we were skinny cyclists. He then started using Dbol and God knows what else in the fall. I saw him balloon to 205 in 4 months. He did upper and lower body workouts-same as me.
He got the “look” alright - and it absolutely is nothing like Zac Effron, lol Inflated delts, traps, huge biceps - the works.At the time I also worked out in a gym where a Jr. Mr. America worked out. He had the “look” as well. He sure didn’t look like Zac Effron either.
We have gotten to the point that anybody who shows any progress weight training “must” be using. What a sad state of affairs.
So if you had to bet your house on it, you would bet that he has no exogenous androgens in his system?
I will say he has some GH in his system too, the effect is tiny but it's there.
I googled some earlier pics, at what looks like exactly the same bodyweight and musculature. It's unmistakable. The shoulder widening effect and slightly enhanced shoulder cap from andogens is there. In the comparison pic the androgen effect is quite dramatic. Bodyweight is probably similar and he was obviously working out. But it's like he put 3 inches of width on both sides. It's not just a slight fat loss that does it.
Look at his face. Yes he is older in the second pic but it's quite obvious that his face got way more masculine.
What does everyone else here think? Could I have confirmation bias?
