U can't judge potential !!

[affeman]

The next Mr Olympia could just pass you by on the streets without u even knowing it

[Humble Narcissist]

He actually had a lot of muscle for a basketball player, especially if he wasn't lifting weights at all.

[Van_Bilderass]

He was real jacked there in fact. Highly abnormal amount of muscle, especially if he wasn't lifting, though I think he was. So yes you could tell he would most likely respond like crazy to the bb lifestyle.

[Royalty]

The next Mr Olympia could just pass you by on the streets without u even knowing it

Affeman, Phil has more muscle in that picture than you ever had. So please stop acting like you know anything about bodybuilding potential. If he passed you on the street, he would feel sorry for you. You are a schmoe, nothing more, nothing less.

[OlympiaGym]

He looks like he a has a ton of potential in those pics.

[SOMEPARTS]

Side note - that basketball is 1 Heath wide.

[Royalty]

Side note - that basketball is 1 Heath wide.

This video shows him dwarfing Hadi Choopan

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xHLeDmi_OQk

[Matt]

He actually had a lot of muscle for a basketball player, especially if he wasn't lifting weights at all.

Exactly.  Sometimes - I find this to be especially true with Arnold nut-huggers - I see threads where everyone agrees with the previous poster and it becomes a giant online circle jerk.

I don't join in on such discussions unless I firmly believe that the previous posters in agreement are correct, and to me it seems obvious that Phil had bodybuilding potential here.  But I can actually explain that, at least from my POV: Phil has an above average muscle fiber density, which is apparently in those photos.  It's completely clear that both his biceps and his triceps extend and proliferate all the way to his elbow joint, which means that - once properly developed - those muscle groups will both be huge.

And eventually they were.

Humble - by lifting, do you mean actual lifting, or do you mean juicing, or do you mean both?

I think he said he didn't start working out until 2002, which would have made him 22 at the time [23 as of December 2002...I think Phil's birthday might be next week].

It's possible that in that photo, he literally walked through a gym only a week earlier, and started an oral steroid [or pro-hormones, which were big at the time - and legal], and literally shot up 7-lb of muscle and water over the course of that week [beginner gains + his amazing genetics], and the result is what we see in that photo.

If I saw a guy who looked like that, it wouldn't be the body size that stood out to me - it would be the muscle fiber density/concentration, which he most definitely has.

He doesn't have a pro bodybuilders size, and if the point is to say that Phil had average person dimensions before he pursued bodybuilding competitively, then yeah.  But bodybuilding genetics are more judged based on number of muscle size, shape of the muscle, how small someone's waist can stay while putting on major size, and even how well a person's genetics are to respond to the side effects of steroids.  Some people cannot tolerate the side effects of the gear use to become a pro bodybuilder, and that's a part of "genetics" when we're talking about BB.

affeman - with Phil's birthday this month, all I can say is: way to ruin a BB's day. 

[Matt]

He was real jacked there in fact. Highly abnormal amount of muscle, especially if he wasn't lifting, though I think he was. So yes you could tell he would most likely respond like crazy to the bb lifestyle.

He reminds me of your friend who had pro potential clearly visible at age 17.

Also - huge calves for a knee-grow!  And that was before entering competitive BB!

[che]

Who cares about potential









The great equalizer

 

 

[irishdave]

The closest a man with such narrow clavicles should ever get to even gracing the Olympia stage is sniffing Nasser’s thong

[irishdave]

If Phil and I walked down the street I can tell you who’d turn more heads

MISE

[che]

If Phil and I walked down the street I can tell you who’d turn more heads

MISE

Phil Heath 100%

[Walter Sobchak]

Exactly.  Sometimes - I find this to be especially true with Arnold nut-huggers - I see threads where everyone agrees with the previous poster and it becomes a giant online circle jerk.

I don't join in on such discussions unless I firmly believe that the previous posters in agreement are correct, and to me it seems obvious that Phil had bodybuilding potential here.  But I can actually explain that, at least from my POV: Phil has an above average muscle fiber density, which is apparently in those photos.  It's completely clear that both his biceps and his triceps extend and proliferate all the way to his elbow joint, which means that - once properly developed - those muscle groups will both be huge.

And eventually they were.

Humble - by lifting, do you mean actual lifting, or do you mean juicing, or do you mean both?

I think he said he didn't start working out until 2002, which would have made him 22 at the time [23 as of December 2002...I think Phil's birthday might be next week].

It's possible that in that photo, he literally walked through a gym only a week earlier, and started an oral steroid [or pro-hormones, which were big at the time - and legal], and literally shot up 7-lb of muscle and water over the course of that week [beginner gains + his amazing genetics], and the result is what we see in that photo.

If I saw a guy who looked like that, it wouldn't be the body size that stood out to me - it would be the muscle fiber density/concentration, which he most definitely has.

He doesn't have a pro bodybuilders size, and if the point is to say that Phil had average person dimensions before he pursued bodybuilding competitively, then yeah.  But bodybuilding genetics are more judged based on number of muscle size, shape of the muscle, how small someone's waist can stay while putting on major size, and even how well a person's genetics are to respond to the side effects of steroids.  Some people cannot tolerate the side effects of the gear use to become a pro bodybuilder, and that's a part of "genetics" when we're talking about BB.

affeman - with Phil's birthday this month, all I can say is: way to ruin a BB's day. 

Matty Aspy, I’ve seen 12 year old blacks kids sitting on the front porch of their ghetto housing, that have never touched a weight, who are built better than you.

50 words maximum Matt or you lose your audience.

[Royalty]

Matty Aspy, I’ve seen 12 year old blacks kids sitting on the front porch of their ghetto housing, that have never touched a weight, who are built better than you.

50 words maximum Matt or you lose your audience.

LOL

[Walter Sobchak]

LOL

Black boys...

Only 85% of the 12 year old black girls are more muscular than Matty.

[irishdave]

Phil Heath 100%

Not a hope. With clothes on? Pffff

[Matt]

Matty Aspy, I’ve seen 12 year old blacks kids sitting on the front porch of their ghetto housing, that have never touched a weight, who are built better than you.

50 words maximum Matt or you lose your audience.

Lol, yeah, but not usually calves.

It's one of the big racial differences between Black and White bodybuilders, as far as genetics go - White people tend to have bigger calves, and Black people tend to have smaller waists.

There are probably other differences, but those are two prominent ones.

^ 47 words!  I made it.  Wait.  Shit.

[pamith]

The next Mr Olympia could just pass you by on the streets without u even knowing it

He looks freakishly muscular even back then, you see him and you know he has incredible potential and elite genetics for bodybuilding

[che]

Lol, yeah, but not usually calves.

Yeah ,you have huge calves

[Methyl m1ke]

The next Mr Olympia could just pass you by on the streets without u even knowing it

If i saw that kid on the street I would stop him and ask him if he considered bodybuilding. Straight up.

[Skeletor]

[Walter Sobchak]

Lol, yeah, but not usually calves.

It's one of the big racial differences between Black and White bodybuilders, as far as genetics go - White people tend to have bigger calves, and Black people tend to have smaller waists.

There are probably other differences, but those are two prominent ones.

^ 47 words!  I made it.  Wait.  Shit.

Matty Aspy, I’m familiar with the physical differences between races, but you shouldn’t pretend they apply to you. On your best day you have narrow clavicles, birthing hips, and the bone structure of an anorexic sparrow.

The upside is that with your small glutes, lack of leg development, and love handles, you could easily play the pasty, gay submissive bottom in an all black prison gang bang porno movie.

[honest]

Charles glass told me in the 90s you realise your true potential in bodybuilding in many cases as you continue. But what you get over the last 5 years is very limited compared to what you achieve in your first 5. Basically he could tell you whether you had pro potential after a few years, but if you had top 5 pro olympia style potentiol would take longer and that is realised if an your body keeps responding to the regime, many guys slow down by this stage.

[Bevo]

Majority of basketball players aren’t built like him, neither are a lot of football players either. He was also exceptionally short for a basketball player where the average height is 6’4. He’s was made for wearing the thong and bbing