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Re: First person receives Pfizer vaccine in U.K.
« Reply #175 on: December 11, 2020, 03:42:34 PM »
Why are you exempt? Is it because you're in the Autism  spectrum? I actually wondered if this might be the case. If it is, why were you charged with trespassing. Is it because the trespassing had nothing to do with you not wearing a mask?  Can't private concerns, i.e. issue a no trespassing order for whatever reason they want i.e. not wearing a mask unless it's viewed as racial or sex discrimination?

Yes, it is an autism spectrum-based exemption, and it is covered under the Ontarians with Disabilities Act, 2005, and the Ontario Human Rights Code.

It's legally equivalent to trespassing someone for being in a wheelchair.

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« Reply #176 on: December 11, 2020, 03:52:57 PM »
Bell's palsy is no joke. My sister's ex-husband has it and it has completely contorted his facial features. A co-worker got it and it affected his speech. In his case, the condition improved over time. Bodybuilder Andreas Cahling has Bell's palsy. He was a handsome man before he was stricken with it. It really messed up his looks.


My old training partner used to train with Cahling. He said Cahling used to fall asleep on the benches between sets from GHB. They'd wake him up and he'd go the bathroom to snort more coke and continue with the workout.
After a night out partying Cahling jabbed a Sustanon in his lat and said it was the best hangover cure.

Found this with a google search just now:

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I read on the internet that I had a stroke in the past. This is false. I never had a stroke.

I did have a very unusual tumor removed from a facial nerve about 10 years ago. It grew real close to my brain so I opted for surgical removal. This is one reason why my face looks as it does today. I have never suffered physically before or after the surgery.

For many years I was misdiagnosed as having a facial paralysis (Bell's Palsy)

Very grateful and happy just to be alive and feeling great. Facing my face does not face me!

-Andreas Cahling   

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« Reply #177 on: December 11, 2020, 03:53:58 PM »
The figure cited in the article I posted earlier was that the average rate of Bell's palsy was 20 per 100,000.  I'm assuming these are lifetime figures - so...1 in 5,000, over the course of a full lifetime.

In the case of the vaccine, we have four cases of Bell's palsy out of 38,000 vaccine recipients, which is 1 in 9,500.  That number wouldn't be alarming if it was over the course of their entire life, but for them to take the Pfizer vaccine, and get Bell's palsy literally a day or days later...doesn't that seem FISHY to you?

I consider it very FISHY.

Definitely fishy enough to give one pause. I doubt any of these Covid-19 will be mandated anytime soon. But, you never know. Many people are panic stricken over this virus. I'm not one of them. I'm just being cautious when I wear a mask in public. It is such an easy step to take. I can see no downside to it. At first, it made me uncomfortable, but I've become so used to it that I forget to take it off after I leave a place requiring one. The other day I drove home and was in the house before I realized I was still wearing the mask. It's still a nuisance because the straps get caught in my hearing aids when I'm removing it and my glasses fog up if it cold outside and specially when entering a heated building.

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« Reply #178 on: December 11, 2020, 04:05:46 PM »
My old training partner used to train with Cahling. He said Cahling used to fall asleep on the benches between sets from GHB. They'd wake him up and he'd go the bathroom to snort more coke and continue with the workout.
After a night out partying Cahling jabbed a Sustanon in his lat and said it was the best hangover cure.

Interesting stories about Cahling. I think I'll pass on his hangover cure. Lucky me, I don't get hangovers anyway.

Apparently, Cahling had a facial tumor which when removed caused nerve damage in his face. So my mistake, he didn't have Bell's palsy after all. Bell's palsy causes nerve damage which can produce the same results depending on how bad the damage to the nerves is.

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« Reply #179 on: December 11, 2020, 04:09:19 PM »
Interesting stories about Cahling. I think I'll pass on his hangover cure. Lucky me, I don't get hangovers anyway.



I think he's a huge weed advocate these days. Also loves the sun, as in tanning, I seem to remember him not believing it's dangerous to fry in the sun :D Well, he's lasted a long time, perfect health he says.

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« Reply #180 on: December 11, 2020, 06:57:59 PM »
My old training partner used to train with Cahling. He said Cahling used to fall asleep on the benches between sets from GHB. They'd wake him up and he'd go the bathroom to snort more coke and continue with the workout.
After a night out partying Cahling jabbed a Sustanon in his lat and said it was the best hangover cure.

Cool, what's Cahling's GetBig handle..?
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« Reply #181 on: December 11, 2020, 07:09:10 PM »
White House threatens FDA chief's job over vaccine approval
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« Reply #182 on: December 11, 2020, 10:02:19 PM »
THE FOLLOWING IS MY LONG REPLY TO PRIMEMUSCLE - IF YOU THINK IT'S TOO LONG, PLEASE DON'T READ IT [TO PRIMEMUSCLE: I WOULD APPRECIATE YOU READ IT]:

Definitely fishy enough to give one pause. I doubt any of these Covid-19 will be mandated anytime soon. But, you never know. Many people are panic stricken over this virus. I'm not one of them. I'm just being cautious when I wear a mask in public. It is such an easy step to take. I can see no downside to it. At first, it made me uncomfortable, but I've become so used to it that I forget to take it off after I leave a place requiring one. The other day I drove home and was in the house before I realized I was still wearing the mask. It's still a nuisance because the straps get caught in my hearing aids when I'm removing it and my glasses fog up if it cold outside and specially when entering a heated building.

I agree it's an easy step.  Evidence I've read indicates that wearing a mask will reduce droplet size, and thus reduce virus particle transmission - specifically, wearing a new, CLEAN mask, that is replaced after use, and ideally an N95 mask by 3M, which offers the greatest protection, to both for the wearer, and to others.

I see men with giant beards wear thin paper masks, and many people never change their mask.  I drove my friend to the liquor store, and asked if I had a mask.  I had a filthy one that was collecting bacteria near the cupholder.  He put it on, and went in.  What good are masks if most people aren't even taking mask hygiene seriously, and most are wearing the cheap slim masks, as opposed to the much more effective N95 masks?

If masks REALLY mattered, wouldn't governments provide unlimited free 3M N95 masks, given how much their spending on COVID?  As it is, I could go to the crafts section of the dollar store, hook two elastic bands through a small piece of light blue construction paper with glue, and use it as a mask.

That's why this doesn't make any sense, Prime - and it's not supposed to.  It's about the slow demolition of the global economy while making the world's elite billions of dollars richer.: the global economy has sustained over $10 trillion in damage so far, while the 2,604 global billionaires have increased their combined net wealth by over $1 trillion, reaching a combined net wealth of, coincidentally, also over $10 trillion.

Does that sound fair to you?

The thing about centre-leftists like yourself is that you don't weigh the costs with the benefits of any given policy.  You support unions [obviously, as a lifetime union worker], yet you're posting from an electronic device made in China from near slave labour, and don't see the contradiction.  You care about the environment, yet pollute 4-5x or more than the average global citizen, and don't see the contradiction.

I'm not trying to convince you to favour capitalism - I'm telling you that you already ARE a capitalist and a right-winger without even realizing it.  You and I are not unalike - you just don't know it, or won't acknowledge it.

How about this, Prime - do you have any comments on this?:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32335196

Or how about this: how do you feel about the case of Nancy Russell, a 90-year-old Canadian woman who chose to be euthanized with her family by her side, because she couldn't face another lockdown?:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/facing-another-retirement-home-lockdown-90-year-old-chooses-medically-assisted-death-1.5197140

Or how about this: a grieving mother in England who lost her husband, whose sons were not allowed to hug her during the funeral of her husband [their father]:



^ Is that acceptable to you?  I realize that a strict economic argument won't convince you, so I'm forced to make an emotional one.

But speaking economically, how do you feel about Canada reaching $1 billion daily in deficit spending this year, acquiring more debt in one year than in the past 30 years combined?  The average person dying of COVID is 84.8 years old, with 2-3 underlying health issues, and according to actuarial statistics, over 50% of those who die of COVID are within the last 6-18 months of their lives.  Meanwhile, $1 billion can provide $1 million in healthcare to 1,000 Canadians each day, which could extend the lives of those Canadians by decades through things like organ transplants or state-of-the-art surgeries.  Or $1 billion could be used to build 10 new hospitals daily at a cost of $100 million per hospital [or four new much larger hospitals daily at a cost of $250 million per hospital].

Do you see how we could potentially save far more people with the amount of money we are spending on COVID, but instead, we are seeing the biggest wave of bankruptcies and wealth loss in the small and medium enterprise sector, while Jeff Bezos and the Walton family [the founder of Amazon, and the Wal-Mart family], have increased their net wealth by over $100 billion during the greatest recession in history, second only to The Great Depression?  Is that fair to you?

You say it's "Just wear a mask", and make it sound like there's nothing more to consider.  But in light of the above information, do you see how this matter is much more nuanced than that?

You think right-wingers like me are just refusing to wear masks for no reason, and don't care about others - in reality, ever since age 21 [2003] when my dad's friend told me that his dad died at age 104 in an elderly care home in 2000 because of a flu that circulated, I have self-isolated every time that I got sick, to prevent others from getting sick.  Furthermore, I had not gotten sick since 2014, and was worried my immune system was not getting any "exercise", so last February [16th], I decided to expose myself to the sickest person I knew - my girlfriend at the time.  Given the symptoms and the length of time I got sick, I strongly believe I had COVID.  If so, I would now have COVID antibodies which would benefit society through exposure, and help us reach herd immunity to the virus.

Instead, I had the police called on me for simply asserting my legally protected rights, because apparently even the police [and some lawyers] don't understand the law in Ontario, which is objectively clear on laws surrounding masks.

ONTARIO LAW SURROUNDING FACE MASKS & EXEMPTIONS:

LINK #1: Thunder Bay Mask Mandate - and Exemptions

LINK #2: Ontario Government Face Mask Exemptions

LINK #2: Ontario Human Rights Commission [Face Mask Exemptions - See #13]

Is that where you want society to head?  Arresting people who are not even sick, who [in my case, if I did get COVID, as I suspect] would actually help by spreading COVID antibodies to others?

Do you see no danger in going down a road where we arrest innocent people who aren't even sick, because they could be "asymptomatic carriers"?  Do you think it's rational to be afraid of a virus that people need to be tested for to even know they have?

Now that we know that COVID is not the global plague we feared, do you think the response to this pandemic is proportional, or comes without any tradeoffs?  Do you see why I don't subscribe to the concept of "Just wear a mask", because I have spent four months researching this virus, its mortality rate, its spread, and have performed a cost/benefit analysis, and think the measures taken to stop COVID are far more damaging than the virus itself?

Rather than stereotype me as a clouded supremacist who is just being belligerent for the sake of it, do you see how I have reasons for feeling as I do?

Also Prime - prior to the controlled mass media, and the new and emerging heavily censored and controlled social media telling you to wear a mask, why didn't you wear one?  Why did you circulate potential illness to others for the years - decades even - before the TV told you to start wearing a mask?

Why do you drive a car?  Why do you buy products that are produced in factories in China, some of which require nets around its perimeter to prevent workers from jumping to their deaths due to poor working conditions?  Every day in our lives, we put others at risk with the actions we take - what makes COVID different, especially after being around for over a year now, when we have firm data on who is dying from it or becoming seriously ill?

Is it wrong of me to think that in light of the information we now have, we should strongly consider the economic damage we are causing by the measures we are taking to deal with COVID, and the problems and deaths those measures will cause?

Is it wrong of me to think that we should direct resources to those most vulnerable to COVID, while allowing the rest of us to carry on with our lives, be economically productive, and thus generate the means and resources necessary to save the people who are actually at risk, rather than continue to peddle fear for people in age demographics who are far more likely to be hit by a car, or even be struck by lightning?

Do you see how not everyone you write off as a Trump-supporting White Supremacist is the stereotype you perceive them to be?

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Re: First person receives Pfizer vaccine in U.K.
« Reply #183 on: December 11, 2020, 10:46:08 PM »
Holy fuck, this retard just can’t fucking act normal for even a few minutes.

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« Reply #184 on: December 11, 2020, 11:03:45 PM »
Holy fuck, this retard just can’t fucking act normal for even a few minutes.

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I put a trigger warning in that post, in case you missed it.

I'll use a larger font next time, so as not to alarm you.

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« Reply #185 on: December 11, 2020, 11:08:40 PM »
I put a trigger warning in that post, in case you missed it.

I'll use a larger font next time, so as not to alarm you.

Okay Corky.

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« Reply #186 on: December 11, 2020, 11:55:29 PM »
Okay Corky.

You know your post where you told me your businesses would be ok, and that this will basically just pass?

I don't think you're wrong.  You're probably right.  I hope you're right.

But it's just not sinking in.

If this goes on for another 18 months, I can't fathom any tenants paying me.  If that happens, I'm basically screwed.  I could sell my assets and live off that, but I would prefer being paid residually.

I guess I'm overthinking this.  But I just feel that in 18 months, my income will be gone, with three kids to feed.  That's why I feel so strongly about this.

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Re: First person receives Pfizer vaccine in U.K.
« Reply #187 on: December 12, 2020, 12:17:34 AM »
THE FOLLOWING IS MY LONG REPLY TO PRIMEMUSCLE - IF YOU THINK IT'S TOO LONG, PLEASE DON'T READ IT [TO PRIMEMUSCLE: I WOULD APPRECIATE YOU READ IT]:

I agree that it's an easy step - and my intuition tells me that wearing a mask [a new, CLEAN mask, that is replaced after each use - and ideally an N95 mask by 3M, which offers the greatest protection, both for the mask-wearer, and others] will reduce droplet size, and thus reduce virus particle transmission/spread.

I also see people wear dinky cloth masks with giant beards sticking out, and I know multiple people who don't change their mask ever.  I drove my friend to the LCBO [Ontario's liquor store chain], and he forgot his mask, and asked if I had one.  I had a filthy piece of sh*t mask that was either near the cupholder area or on the floor of the front passenger side.  He took it and put it on, and went in.  Exactly what good are masks doing if most people aren't even taking mask hygiene seriously, and the overwhelming majority are wearing the cheap slim masks, as opposed to the much more effective N95 masks?

And if masks REALLY mattered - and since we're blowing TRILLIONS of dollars globally fighting COVID, wouldn't providing unlimited free 3M N95 masks make sense?  As it is now, I could literally go to the crafts section of the dollar store, and hook two elastic bands through a rectangular piece of light blue construction paper with glue, and use it as a mask, without anyone even noticing.

That's why this doesn't make any sense - and it's not supposed to make sense, Prime.  It's about slowly demolishing the global economy while making the world's elite billions of dollars richer.  Case in point: the global economy has sustained at least $10 trillion in damage so far, while the 2,604 global billionaires have increased their combined net wealth by over $1 trillion, recently hitting a combined net wealth between them of, coincidentally, also $10 trillion.

Does that sound fair to you?

See, the thing about liberals like yourself is that you don't weigh the costs with the benefits of any given policy.  You support unions [obviously, as a lifetime union worker], yet you're posting from an electronic device made in China from near slave labour, and don't see the contradiction there.  You care about environmental degradation and climate change, yet pollute 4-5x or more than the average global citizen, and don't see the contradiction there.

I'm not trying to convince you to favour capitalism - I'm telling you that you already ARE a capitalist and a right-winger without even realizing it.  You and I are really not alike - you just don't know it, and won't ever acknowledge it.

How about this, Prime - do you have any comments on this?:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32335196

Or how about this, Prime - do you have an opinion on Nancy Russell, a 90-year-old Canadian woman who chose to be euthanized with her family by her side, because she couldn't go on with another lockdown?:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/facing-another-retirement-home-lockdown-90-year-old-chooses-medically-assisted-death-1.5197140

Or how about this - a grieving mother in England who lost her husband, whose sons were not allowed to hug her during the funeral of her husband [their father]:



^ Is that acceptable to you, Prime?  I realize that a strict economic argument won't work for you, so I'm forced to make an emotional one.

But economically, how do you feel about Canada spending over $1 billion daily in deficit spending this year, acquiring more debt in one year than in the past 30 years combined?  The average person dying of COVID is 84.8 years old, with 2-3 underlying health issues, and according to actuarial statistics, over 50% of those who die of COVID are within the last 6-18 months of their lives.  Meanwhile, the $1 billion can provide 1,000 Canadians each day with $1 million in healthcare which could extend the lives of those 1,000 Canadians by decades through things like organ transplants or state-of-the-art surgeries, or could be used to build 10 new hospitals daily at a cost of $100 million per hospital [or four new hospitals daily at a cost of $250 million each].

Do you see how we could be saving far more people with the amount of money we are spending on COVID, but instead, we are seeing the biggest wave of bankruptcies and wealth loss in the small and medium enterprise sector, while Jeff Bezos and the Walton family [the founder of Amazon, and the Wal-Mart family], have increased their net wealth by over $100 billion during the greatest recession in history, second only to The Great Depression.

You say it's "Just wear a mask", and when you say it like that - you make it sound like there's nothing more to this than that.  But in light of the above information, do you see how this matter is much more complicated than that?

You think right-wingers like me are just refusing to wear masks for no reason, and don't care about others - in reality, ever since age 21 [2003] when my dad's friend told me that his dad died at age 104 in an elderly care home because of a flu that circulated, I have self-isolated every time that I got sick, to prevent others from getting sick.  Furthermore, I had not gotten sick since 2014, and was worried my immune system was not getting any "exercise", so last February [16th], I decided to expose myself to the sickest person I knew - my girlfriend at the time.  Given the symptoms, and the length of time I got sick, I strongly believe I got COVID.  What that means is that it is very likely I beat COVID, and now have COVID antibodies which would benefit society if I exposed others to them, which would help us to gain herd immunity towards COVID.

Instead, I had the police called on me for simply asserting my legally protected rights, because apparently even the police [and some lawyers] don't understand the law in Ontario, which is objectively clear on laws surrounding masks.

ONTARIO LAW SURROUNDING FACE MASKS & EXEMPTIONS:

LINK #1: Thunder Bay Mask Mandate - and Exemptions

LINK #2: Ontario Government Face Mask Exemptions

LINK #2: Ontario Human Rights Commission [Face Mask Exemptions - See #13]

Is that where you want society to head?  Arresting people who are not even sick, who are [in my case, if I did get COVID in February, as I suspect] would actually help society by spreading COVID antibodies and helping humans reach herd immunity to this virus?

Do you see no danger in going down a road where we arrest innocent people who aren't even sick, because they could be "asymptomatic carriers"?  Do you think it's rational to be afraid of a virus that people need to be tested for to even know they have?

Ultimately, my question is - now that we know that COVID is not the global plague we initially feared, do you think the response to this pandemic is proportional, or comes without any tradeoffs?  Do you see why I don't subscribe to the concept of "Just wear a mask", because I have spent months researching this virus, its mortality rate, and its spread, and done a cost/benefit analysis, and think the cure being implemented is worse than the disease itself?

Rather than stereotype me as a clouded supremacist who is just being belligerent just for the sake of it, do you see how I have reasons for feeling the way I do?

But here's my question, Prime:

Prior to the controlled mass media, and the new and emerging heavily censored and controlled social media telling you to wear a mask, why didn't you wear a mask prior to being told to?  Why did you have no problem circulating potential illness to others for the years - decades even - before the TV told you to start wearing a mask?

Why do you drive a car?  Why do you buy products that are produced in factories in China, some of which require nets around its perimeter to prevent workers from committing suicide?  Every day in our lives, we put others at risk with the actions we take - what makes COVID different, after being around for over a year now, when we have firm data on who is dying or becoming seriously ill from it?

Is it wrong of me to think that in light of the information we now have, we should strongly consider the economic damage we are causing by the measures we are taking to deal with COVID, and the problems and deaths we will cause by taking these measures?

Is it wrong of me to think that we should seek a proportional solution to this pandemic that seeks to direct resources to the most vulnerable in our society, while allowing the rest of us to carry on with our lives, be economically productive, and thus generate the means and resources necessary to save the people who are actually at risk, rather than continue to peddle fear for people in age demographics who are far more likely to be hit by a car, or even be struck by lightning?

Do you see how not everyone you write off as a Trump-supporting White Supremacist is the stereotype you perceive them to be?

Wow Matt, when you decide to make an all encompassing post you sure don't hold back one iota.

I'm honestly not sure how to reply to this so that it makes any sense and doesn't ramble into so many other areas. But being me, I am going to try....fool that I am.

Let me start with what I think I was talking about, which is the simplicity of wearing a mask. First of all, I agree with you that people fake wear masks all the time. Let's look at bodybuilding contest videos (you know, just to keep it bodybuilding related), since all this started. Yeah the contestants are wearing masks....mostly around necks. Like how many germs is anyone's neck going to spread....hint....almost none.

I went to the store tonight, the clerk was wearing a bandanna (handkerchief) over his mouth but not his nose. Like, what the fuck? I first entered the store forgetting to put on a mask (which, by the way I have not washed since I cannot remember when). Knowing I couldn't get served (it's a state owned liquor store) I quickly ran back to the car and threw on my mask. Made my purchase from the other clerk who was properly wearing her mask, and left. This took all of about 5 minutes.

Matt, there are tons of excuses for not wearing a mask. You've brought up a lot of them in your response to me. Have I mentioned that I have issues with both claustrophobia and asthma? Obviously, wearing a mask was a real problem for me and sometimes still it is. I could probably get away with not wearing one by simply stating this when questioned or given a dirty look by some passerby or I guess wearing a sign stating it to avoid having to explain it verbally. I could do this, but somehow it seems like more work than just throwing the rag over my mouth and nose for a few minutes.

I almost digressed, but I deleted that part even though it was pertinent to this conversation, because I don't want to do what you do which is layer one issue on top of another.  Sorry. I'll just say you have a history of getting yourself into trouble because of you fervent need to express your sometimes antisocial beliefs in a hostile way.

Care to answer my previous question as to why you were charged (once again) with tresspassing?

I'd like to leave this on an up note, so I will share something I've talked about before. The first year I  worked at the elementary school which is a germ factory, as are they all, it seemed like I had a cold every other month. The next year, I'd built up some immunity to children's virus laden snot which ends up contaminating every surface throughout the building. I also learned to wash my hands constantly, which probably helped me stay healthier. So yeah, exposure can be a good thing if it makes you immune to later infections. Covid-19 just arrived on the scene less than a year ago. Nobody knows for sure how it works or how to best protect ourselves from the more serious possible consequences of contracting it.

I am old. I am in the right age bracket for having serious and perhaps deadly consequences should I catch Covid-19. But heck, people my age die everyday from one thing or another (just check the obits). And honestly, I've had a great life and I am okay with the idea that I could die any day. I've experienced the loss of many people I love, including my best and oldest friend who just recently passed with out letting me know (what a jerk), which hit me pretty hard since he was a contemporary and not an elder. I am definitely not afraid of dying. We all do it at some point.

Oops, there is a bunch of other good stuff you went into that I have not responded to here, but hey, it is almost midnight and frankly I'm a bit tired. Got to get my beauty sleep....not that it seems to be working very well these days. Also, being a senior, I can only handle so much in one session without losing track of what I want to say. As for anything Trump...well, I think that's over now, thank goodness. Maybe we can move on. I really hope so. The last four years has been very unhealthy and stressful for many of us. In my case, there has been no other time in my long, long life that politics was so consuming. 

I'll leave you with this, Matt, Matt, Matt, stop making everything some kind of political issue or treat it as a personal attack on your personal beliefs. Trust me, relax and enjoy your sweet kids, the baby moms and the rest of you family and friends. Our time here is short. Wear a fucking filthy mask or don't, it's no skin off my back. But just don't expect me to give you a hug when you don't have one on....okay maybe one hug just because we've known each other for so long....but that's all....I wouldn't want to give you Covid-19....not that I have it....but the point is you never know, right?

Be good Matt. Wear the filthy worthless mask if it keeps you out of trouble. It just isn't something worth making a fuss over. There are bigger fish to fry. Any Thunderbay strongman competitions coming up? That's were you really shine, IMO.

 

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Re: First person receives Pfizer vaccine in U.K.
« Reply #188 on: December 12, 2020, 02:13:46 AM »
FuiBoi statistics state, it takes 70% vaccinated to reach Herd Immunity.  I'm more than comfortable being apart of the 30% if I have no critical underlying conditions which could put my life in jeopardy.

FuiBoi Govt Rushed, Inadequately Tested, FucBoi Vaccine! 

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« Reply #189 on: December 12, 2020, 02:30:05 AM »
Wall Street projects Pfizer and Moderna will rake in $32 BILLION in COVID-19 vaccine sales in 2021 alone

It's about health and properly tested vaccines, not Fucboi Profits!


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Re: First person receives Pfizer vaccine in U.K.
« Reply #190 on: December 12, 2020, 04:48:18 AM »
I actually read matts post, as I thought he may have been trailing off into delusion in it (which would have entertained me thoroughly)  but tbh it's one of his better posts...

Especially the first half I must say made total sense to me and I agree!

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Re: First person receives Pfizer vaccine in U.K.
« Reply #191 on: December 12, 2020, 06:28:43 AM »
Care to answer my previous question as to why you were charged (once again) with tresspassing?

I read your full post, and I'm on board with it, so I don't have much to say because it's not as if I disagree with much of it, or any of it, really.

I quoted this portion, so that I will remember to respond to it later [it's almost 9:30am here, and I was up all night again, aside from falling asleep by my laptop for a few hours].  I also didn't want to quote your full post because I didn't want to throw Walter Sobchak into a rage.  But I will answer your question when I get back to here later.  FYI, you will live to 90 or older.

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Re: First person receives Pfizer vaccine in U.K.
« Reply #192 on: December 12, 2020, 06:32:30 AM »
I actually read matts post, as I thought he may have been trailing off into delusion in it (which would have entertained me thoroughly)  but tbh it's one of his better posts...

Especially the first half I must say made total sense to me and I agree!

Thanks harmankardon1!  I've just about come to accept that I will never be able to write short posts...but I have one idea that might work: post on Getbig from a smartphone.  Small virtual keyboards slow me town, and I can't fathom writing posts anywhere near as long on such a keyboard compared to the posts I write from a computer or laptop keyboard.

This may well - after four years of being aware of this issue, and wishing to resolve it - finally put it to rest, for the grief reduction of everyone else on here, forced to endure my posts.  8)

Basically, my posts here are the equivalent of inviting a Getbigger to my house for lunch, and dunking my ball sack in his tea.

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Re: First person receives Pfizer vaccine in U.K.
« Reply #193 on: December 12, 2020, 07:42:15 AM »
2019 = 22,000 up to 64,000 flu deaths
2020 = 298,000 Around 20,000 actual covid deaths

Shitty comparison
And the flu has a vaccine with decades of research.... :-\
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: First person receives Pfizer vaccine in U.K.
« Reply #194 on: December 12, 2020, 07:47:53 AM »
If a vaccine they invented for COVID is "95% effective" as claimed


Why would you need 70% of the population to get it as during the "testing phase" that most certainly didn't take place and was therefore "95% effective" as soon as 1 person got it for that person.



No?

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Re: First person receives Pfizer vaccine in U.K.
« Reply #195 on: December 12, 2020, 08:41:15 AM »
You know your post where you told me your businesses would be ok, and that this will basically just pass?

I don't think you're wrong.  You're probably right.  I hope you're right.

But it's just not sinking in.

If this goes on for another 18 months, I can't fathom any tenants paying me.  If that happens, I'm basically screwed.  I could sell my assets and live off that, but I would prefer being paid residually.

I guess I'm overthinking this.  But I just feel that in 18 months, my income will be gone, with three kids to feed.  That's why I feel so strongly about this.

Do you remember my post where I said I don’t give a fuck about your delusional, self-centered, attention-whoring rantings on any topic?

I still don’t.

No one cares about your Aspy opinions. No one cares whether you can reconcile to wear a mask or not. No one cares that you have no tangible job skills and can’t afford to feed the illegitimate children you brought into this world.

Instead of obsessing over the cleanliness of some stupid mask, why don’t you work on this homework assignment for a few months:

(1) Ask yourself, “why am I not normal and why am I such a total fuckup?”

(2) What am you going to do to become normal and how will you change to become less of a total fuckup?

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Re: First person receives Pfizer vaccine in U.K.
« Reply #196 on: December 12, 2020, 08:41:40 AM »
If a vaccine they invented for COVID is "95% effective" as claimed


Why would you need 70% of the population to get it as during the "testing phase" that most certainly didn't take place and was therefore "95% effective" as soon as 1 person got it for that person.



No?

Not sure I exactly get what you mean, but 70% would need vaccinating in a country like New Zealand where very few people have had covid.

In the US roughly 30% of the population will have had covid by spring 2021 so only 40% would need vaccinating. The problem however is knowing who already has immunity through natural infection and who doesn't. Given that uncertainty a 55% vaccine uptake will likely achieve the same outcome as the 70% vaccine uptake in NZ.

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Re: First person receives Pfizer vaccine in U.K.
« Reply #197 on: December 12, 2020, 02:25:50 PM »
Do you remember my post where I said I don’t give a fuck about your delusional, self-centered, attention-whoring rantings on any topic?

I still don’t.

No one cares about your Aspy opinions. No one cares whether you can reconcile to wear a mask or not. No one cares that you have no tangible job skills and can’t afford to feed the illegitimate children you brought into this world.

Instead of obsessing over the cleanliness of some stupid mask, why don’t you work on this homework assignment for a few months:

(1) Ask yourself, “why am I not normal and why am I such a total fuckup?”

(2) What am you going to do to become normal and how will you change to become less of a total fuckup?

Lol, bro, dude - WAKE THE FUCK UP.

This isn't about my opinion - I'm asking you about your opinion here.  My question is about YOU.  Not about me.

I realize that in your world, everywhere has eight years of university education, bench presses 405+, has millions [or billions] of dollars in savings, etc, but that is not how it is here in Canada.

My living - for the past 11 years now comfortably, and 15 years as a partial income - is renting houses.  YouTube and online bodybuilding stuff too, but I'm not concerned about the internet collapsing [maybe a little].

I have 4.5 years of university education, and a STEM background.  If I HAD to get a job, I guess I'd suck it up and get one.  Frankly, I'd rather be in PRISON than to have a boss in the current politically correct, woke culture.

Ontario has already frozen rent increases for 2021.  Next what?  Is the government going to make it illegal for landlords to evict tenants until "Two weeks to flatten the curve!" ends?  Then what?

My question was just what makes you so confident that we will get through this.  That's all.

You sound like a liberal in terms of how you're not worried about the economics of all this.  No offense.  I'm just saying you sound like one, but since I know you're not, I was curious what YOU think about the post-COVID economy.  My post was never about me.  I was just curious what drives your optimism.

I'm sorry for offending you.  I've been trying to include trigger warnings for that reason.

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Re: First person receives Pfizer vaccine in U.K.
« Reply #198 on: December 12, 2020, 03:15:13 PM »
Primemuscle - check this video out, about current events in your city.  I would PM this to you, but I think some other Getbiggers may be interested in this too.  Did your city actually almost elect an outright communist mayor?  ???

This is what I mean about feeling so pessimistic about the future.  It's only a matter of time before this social unrest spills over into Canada.  It may be next year, it may be 2030, but I would guarantee that it will be somewhere in that range, before this starts happening in Canada too:


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Re: First person receives Pfizer vaccine in U.K.
« Reply #199 on: December 12, 2020, 03:27:08 PM »
He said Cahling used to fall asleep on the benches between sets from GHB.

Yes, GHB was big around bodybuilders in germany.
It was suposed to release growth hormone, but it failed in doing so :)

Highly addicting stuff, but also great, if you do to much you go to sleep (sometimes forever).