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Re: Heath at the O
« Reply #150 on: December 20, 2020, 01:12:08 PM »
He looked pretty off, not just the abs either. His head is either bigger, or everything is proportionally smaller. What do you guys think?

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Re: Heath at the O
« Reply #151 on: December 20, 2020, 01:56:59 PM »
He looked pretty off, not just the abs either. His head is either bigger, or everything is proportionally smaller. What do you guys think?
He definitely was way off but still better than I expected.  I thought Curry was off as well.

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Re: 2020 Olympia - Heath at the O
« Reply #152 on: December 20, 2020, 02:06:18 PM »
Remember when Cutler placed ahead of Rami here?

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Re: Heath at the O
« Reply #153 on: December 20, 2020, 02:14:47 PM »
He looked pretty off, not just the abs either. His head is either bigger, or everything is proportionally smaller. What do you guys think?

Phil’s Head has been growing for a good No. of years now. Not what he needs with his Narrow Shoulders
& Chest doesn’t make for a Great look. I’d guess that Phil is going to be retiring from competing now as
He’s not going to start improving, he’s had his time & did very well.

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Re: 2020 Olympia - Heath at the O
« Reply #154 on: December 20, 2020, 02:15:06 PM »
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« Reply #155 on: December 20, 2020, 02:16:14 PM »
Phil’s Head has been growing for a good No. of years now. Not what he needs with his Narrow Shoulders
& Chest doesn’t make for a Great look. I’d guess that Phil is going to be retiring from competing now as
He’s not going to start improving, he’s had his time & did very well.
He was one of the greatest for sure, and still is, he is better than Curry

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Re: Heath at the O
« Reply #156 on: December 20, 2020, 02:43:03 PM »
Ramy likely has a number of issues,

like most..

But..
after seeing the 'pain' in his face & his 'unflexibility' while hitting the side chest and his 'inability to hold a pose'.
I think he has more serious shoulder problems.

Also his side-trizeps-pose.
Arms behind the back is almost impossible for him, which is maybe understandable,
but it also looks like he realy is in pain while hitting those two poses.

It seems to happen when he pulls his shoulder(s) back.


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Re: 2020 Olympia - Heath at the O
« Reply #157 on: December 20, 2020, 03:32:25 PM »
Does anyone else think Ramy looks like a mix of every race on earth combined ?

Maybe that's what all humans will look like in 1000 years

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Re: 2020 Olympia - Heath at the O
« Reply #158 on: December 20, 2020, 03:46:05 PM »
Looking at the scorecards, Hadi lost to Heath by just 1 point.


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Re: 2020 Olympia - Heath at the O
« Reply #159 on: December 20, 2020, 03:54:37 PM »
Does anyone else think Ramy looks like a mix of every race on earth combined ?

Maybe that's what all humans will look like in 1000 years
Brutal if true

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Re: Heath at the O
« Reply #160 on: December 20, 2020, 05:22:32 PM »
He was one of the greatest for sure, and still is, he is better than Curry
Curry smokes him now. This isn't 2011 Phil. Phil got a gift in 3rd. Hadi and Bonac were better than him

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Re: 2020 Olympia - Heath at the O
« Reply #161 on: December 20, 2020, 05:51:13 PM »
Looking at the scorecards, Hadi lost to Heath by just 1 point.



Labrada is better than Sergio jr ever was at this point, top 10 first Olympia, didn’t think the judges would let him beat dexter in his last Olympia

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Re: 2020 Olympia - Heath at the O
« Reply #162 on: December 20, 2020, 06:07:47 PM »
Looking at the scorecards, Hadi lost to Heath by just 1 point.



Phil was in second after prejudging and slid to forth at the night show?!

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Re: 2020 Olympia - Heath at the O
« Reply #163 on: December 21, 2020, 02:19:13 AM »
Phil was in second after prejudging and slid to forth at the night show?!
It's unbelievable that the judges had him 2nd after prejudging!  They must have read Getbig and realized they would have a riot if they gave it to Phil.

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Re: 2020 Olympia - Heath at the O
« Reply #164 on: December 21, 2020, 03:55:18 AM »
It's unbelievable that the judges had him 2nd after prejudging!  They must have read Getbig and realized they would have a riot if they gave it to Phil.

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Re: 2020 Olympia - Heath at the O
« Reply #165 on: December 21, 2020, 07:46:27 PM »
Why people keep attacking Phil? it is not the point and non sense.  He got 3rd, not 1st, but the spot lights are focusing on his stomach.  I think he tried his best to show his figure on the stage.  No regret. 

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Re: 2020 Olympia - Heath at the O
« Reply #166 on: December 21, 2020, 08:11:06 PM »
Remember when Cutler placed ahead of Rami here?



Looked far better then.

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Re: Heath at the O
« Reply #167 on: December 21, 2020, 10:23:15 PM »
I thought the Korean dude didn't look too bad either but he has some mutant shit happening to his gut. Like one of his abs is out of all proportion to the others.

Korean dude calls Lee Seung Chul.  Biggest BB in East Asia.  His gut has been already improved for this competition.  His stomach is usually out of control.     

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Re: 2020 Olympia - Heath at the O
« Reply #168 on: December 21, 2020, 10:42:57 PM »
Why people keep attacking Phil? it is not the point and non sense.  He got 3rd, not 1st, but the spot lights are focusing on his stomach.  I think he tried his best to show his figure on the stage.  No regret.

Because he is so unlikeable. A self-absorbed douche bag. And it is the point. All eyes were focused on him. He's the multi-Olympia winner and this was his big come back and he bragged about how he will destroy everybody. Of course, all the focus was on him. All the talk and his past reputation -- let's see what he brought. Let's see if his mouth could back up his performance and the package that he brings.

It's not that hard to figure out.

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« Reply #169 on: December 21, 2020, 11:10:12 PM »
Korean dude calls Lee Seung Chul.  Biggest BB in East Asia.  His gut has been already improved for this competition.  His stomach is usually out of control.   

Have there been any objective determinations made about pro bodybuilders getting big guts?  Is it just a part of muscle-building, in that as you get bigger and eat so much food [etc] that you invariably get a bigger stomach that grows as a result of all that, or is it specifically a matter of human growth hormone [HGH] making the organs get larger, along with the muscles?

Because bodybuilders were still fairly massive in the late 1980's, but it looks to me that the big guts didn't really show up until Dorian's era, which is probably correspondent with HGH use becoming more common in bodybuilding.  So I'm curious if it's a bodybuilding thing, or specifically HGH-related.

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Re: 2020 Olympia - Heath at the O
« Reply #170 on: December 21, 2020, 11:58:44 PM »
Because he is so unlikeable. A self-absorbed douche bag. And it is the point. All eyes were focused on him. He's the multi-Olympia winner and this was his big come back and he bragged about how he will destroy everybody. Of course, all the focus was on him. All the talk and his past reputation -- let's see what he brought. Let's see if his mouth could back up his performance and the package that he brings.

It's not that hard to figure out.

He’s got 3.5 million followers on Instagram, for a guy that’s so “unlikeable” that’s more than dexter, jay, Kevin, flex, etc

He’s successful at what he does and at the end of the day, he’s got 7 Sandows

Just taking a page out of you, pellius, as a lot of people talk shit all the time about others while not even achieving a quarter of success  ;D

Phil’s shit talking is his persona, it’s all an act, like Parker used to say, it goes back to his days of playing basketball. He know how to get people talking, whether it’s negative or positive, he hypes himself up, getting attention. That in itself is def working and he succeeded in doing so

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Re: Heath at the O
« Reply #171 on: December 21, 2020, 11:59:07 PM »
Have there been any objective determinations made about pro bodybuilders getting big guts?  Is it just a part of muscle-building, in that as you get bigger and eat so much food [etc] that you invariably get a bigger stomach that grows as a result of all that, or is it specifically a matter of human growth hormone [HGH] making the organs get larger, along with the muscles?

Because bodybuilders were still fairly massive in the late 1980's, but it looks to me that the big guts didn't really show up until Dorian's era, which is probably correspondent with HGH use becoming more common in bodybuilding.  So I'm curious if it's a bodybuilding thing, or specifically HGH-related.

Think about it for a minute. An AIDS/HIV patient is taking 15-18 ius a day. They do so for years with any stomach or organ growth.

You ever eat and drink so much that your stomach makes you look like you're pregnant? Of course, you did. I did so a few days ago: 50 ounces of Sprite, a beef curry plate lunch with two scoops of rice and macaroni salad, one of those Cinnabums (which are huge and cost $5 a piece), a hot fudge sundae with three scoops of ice cream... It took me about 50 minutes to eat all this and it was the soda that really expanded my stomach so it started to hurt being stretch out so much. Imagine if I did this on a regular basis? Constantly stretching out the abdominal wall and the stomach organ? Haven't you notice that MOST men over forty have protruding guts? Even if they have skinny arms and legs they have that bubble gut. They do no bbing or HGH. I doubt that many of those fatsos eat as much as a competitive bber but they're always stuffing their face. Next time you are at a food court just look at what normal people are eating. Multiply that by 3 for a bber.

There's a big difference between 5'10" 225-240 bbers from back in the day and the 275-300 pounders of today. Lee Haney was 5'11" and 230 pounds when he first won the Olympia and he was considered huge. One of the biggest onstage. Now it's routine for some of that height to be 275 lbs onstage and 300 lbs offseason has almost become the norm. 300 POUNDS! That takes a lot of eating. Your stomach is naturally only so big. BBers are force-feeding themselves for years.

Look at a lot of bbers once they retire. Dorian has often been accused as being one of the first to abuse HGH and insulin and when he got over 300 lbs his gut was huge. Even later in his career, he was getting that gut. But now it's gone.

You take 15-20 ius of GH a day like HIV patients do but if you don't stuff yourself you are not going to get a big gut. You don't even have to touch GH but if you eat like a fat pig for years on end you will get a big, fat, bubble gut like the majority of the middle age men
in first world prosperous countries.
 

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Re: 2020 Olympia - Heath at the O
« Reply #172 on: December 22, 2020, 12:00:49 AM »
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Re: Heath at the O
« Reply #173 on: December 22, 2020, 12:01:46 AM »
Think about it for a minute. An AIDS/HIV patient is taking 15-18 ius a day. They do so for years with any stomach or organ growth.

You ever eat and drink so much that your stomach makes you look like you're pregnant? Of course, you did. I did so a few days ago: 50 ounces of Sprite, a beef curry plate lunch with two scoops of rice and macaroni salad, one of those Cinnabums (which are huge and cost $5 a piece), a hot fudge sundae with three scoops of ice cream... It took me about 50 minutes to eat all this and it was the soda that really expanded my stomach so it started to hurt being stretch out so much. Imagine if I did this on a regular basis? Constantly stretching out the abdominal wall and the stomach organ? Haven't you notice that MOST men over forty have protruding guts? Even if they have skinny arms and legs they have that bubble gut. They do no bbing or HGH. I doubt that many of those fatsos eat as much as a competitive bber but they're always stuffing their face. Next time you are at a food court just look at what normal people are eating. Multiply that by 3 for a bber.

There's a big difference between 5'10" 225-240 bbers from back in the day and the 275-300 pounders of today. Lee Haney was 5'11" and 230 pounds when he first won the Olympia and he was considered huge. One of the biggest onstage. Now it's routine for some of that height to be 275 lbs onstage and 300 lbs offseason has almost become the norm. 300 POUNDS! That takes a lot of eating. Your stomach is naturally only so big. BBers are force-feeding themselves for years.

Look at a lot of bbers once they retire. Dorian has often been accused as being one of the first to abuse HGH and insulin and when he got over 300 lbs his gut was huge. Even later in his career, he was getting that gut. But now it's gone.

You take 15-20 ius of GH a day like HIV patients do but if you don't stuff yourself you are not going to get a big gut. You don't even have to touch GH but if you eat like a fat pig for years on end you will get a big, fat, bubble gut like the majority of the middle age men
in first world prosperous countries.

Lots of GH, insulin, and EATING

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Re: 2020 Olympia - Heath at the O
« Reply #174 on: December 22, 2020, 12:21:02 AM »
He’s got 3.5 million followers on Instagram, for a guy that’s so “unlikeable” that’s more than dexter, jay, Kevin, flex, etc

He’s successful at what he does and at the end of the day, he’s got 7 Sandows

Just taking a page out of you, pellius, as a lot of people talk shit all the time about others while not even achieving a quarter of success  ;D

Phil’s shit talking is his persona, it’s all an act, like Parker used to say, it goes back to his days of playing basketball. He know how to get people talking, whether it’s negative or positive, he hypes himself up, getting attention. That in itself is def working and he succeeded in doing so

Perhaps I should have been more specific. The poster was referring to the comments here. Phil Heath is wildly popular with the majority of the mainstream fans. Just a random survey at the gym (I go to three different ones) here in Hawaii they love him. I was referring to this board where he is very unpopular.

There is zero doubt that Phil Heath is one of the greatest bbers of all time. His record speaks for itself. And it's one thing to "talk shit", i.e., to criticize Phil as a bber and quite another who considers him a loser at life. Fans are not comparing Phil's physique to their physiques. They are evaluating him using the highest of standards befitting of someone who holds the highest title in bbing. That's fine in my book. I take a dim view when someone starts attacking a person's personal life and success. Especially when the person they are criticizing is on a whole different and higher level of existence. Phil is very successful. There was a guy on here that called Joe Rogan a loser because he married someone who already had a kid. Joe Rogan? A loser? What better life can you have? He sits down and has long involved discussions with some of the greatest minds, athletes, musicians, authors, political figures... in the world. Just that type of environment is going to take your mind and life experience to a whole new level. And he makes 100 mil doing it. And that's not to mention being involved in the inner circle of the UFC, getting paid handsomely to watch all these fights for free, and to travel all over the world and experience different cultures and people. Then there is his TV shows, comedy routines... And this doesn't even take into account what he does on his own time: Black Belt in BJJ, high-level martial artist, works out just as hard as anybody on here, archery hunting, car collector... how can anyone live a more fulfilling life? it's fair to criticize him as an interviewer or announcer or comedian but for anyone on here to call him a loser -- that's just beyond the pale.