Tamoxifen and aromasin for pct

[DanielPaul]

Are these two enough to rebound your natural test after a low dose (250 mg test cyp) 10 week cycle, or is HCG a must?

[Van_Bilderass]

IMO there isn't enough data to say what is "needed" or what the longterm outcome is between "PCT" vs no drugs at all.
Personally HCG during cycle and a SERM after sounds most logical. AI after is tricky, do you really want to crash your estrogen when you're not producing any test nor estrogen?

[LurkerNoMore]

If you take HCG you will need nolvadex to combat the rise in estrogen while you are on it and a couple weeks after you discontinue HCG.

I would just ride it out and let your body recover on it's own.

[DanielPaul]

If you take HCG you will need nolvadex to combat the rise in estrogen while you are on it and a couple weeks after you discontinue HCG.

I would just ride it out and let your body recover on it's own.

Well ok so about how long does the rebound take for a healthy person?

[ChevChelios]

Depinde de fiecare, poti sa fi perfect dupa 1 luna, poate dura chiar si 6 luni. Iti complici viata cu tamoxifenul, eventual daca vei avea probleme cu estrogenul ( desi la doza aia nu vad cum) poti lua o jumate de pastila de aromasin 1 zi da 1 nu timp de 1 saptamana de exemplu.

[DanielPaul]

Depinde de fiecare, poti sa fi perfect dupa 1 luna, poate dura chiar si 6 luni. Iti complici viata cu tamoxifenul, eventual daca vei avea probleme cu estrogenul ( desi la doza aia nu vad cum) poti lua o jumate de pastila de aromasin 1 zi da 1 nu timp de 1 saptamana de exemplu.

yea I’m going to need some help here

[Rusty Trombone]

Xem meke. Rojê 10mg tamoxifen bigirin û 2 mehan bidin wê.

[Matt]

Are these two enough to rebound your natural test after a low dose (250 mg test cyp) 10 week cycle, or is HCG a must?

I think Van's angle is interesting.  I had never thought in terms of what could happen if your estrogen crashed, along with testosterone.

I've never heard anyone say HCG being a "must", but it is very popular.  There was a guru around 2004 who wrote steroid e-books who said that using Tamoxifen post-cycle would equivalent to wearing sunglasses in a snowstorm.  I think his recommendation was CLOMID.

I'm more interested in your cycle - I've always heard that small cycles like that would only crash your testosterone level without making decent gains.  But I've never heard anyone comment on such a low-dose cycle.  Do they work?  Because I'm not opposed to steroids, but don't need nor want gains from a big cycle.  A few lean pounds is more than enough for my own personal preference.

[tres_taco_combo]

If you take HCG you will need nolvadex to combat the rise in estrogen while you are on it and a couple weeks after you discontinue HCG.

I would just ride it out and let your body recover on it's own.

agreed: add nolva to your HCG.


what is your opinion of Clomid in PCT

[DanielPaul]

Well for some reason my two sources are saying HCG is hard to come by right now, that kinda why I started the thread.  I can’t stand looking for another source so I guess HCG is out.  Stupid question but if I go to the Dr and tell her that my test is low and she runs her own test to back it up , what are the odds of her prescribing it?

[deadz]

PCT is for quitters.