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Sports Cards - Rise in Value
« on: January 21, 2021, 12:17:55 PM »
Anyone still got some laying around? The market has absolutely exploded. Its a bubble. Rookie cards have gone up thousands of percent in value in the last year. Its insane. Its also insane the thousands and thousands of cards I got rid of way too cheap, but hindsight is meh

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Re: Sports Cards
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2021, 12:28:20 PM »
I know 2 people who buy cards online, then send to an authenticator, who grades them and sends back.

Then the cards either go up or down in value, and they resell.

It's like gambling.
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Re: Sports Cards
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2021, 12:29:06 PM »
yeah ill trade you a wade boggs rookie for a pack of bubble gum

but only a vintage slice inside a 1991 sealed fleer foil pack pack

just want the gum

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Re: Sports Cards
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2021, 12:30:09 PM »
Like comic books I got rid of all my cards when I was a teenager.  Had I kept them all I would be a very rich man.

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Re: Sports Cards
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2021, 12:30:21 PM »
I know 2 people who buy cards online, then send to an authenticator, who grades them and sends back.

Then the cards either go up or down in value, and they resell.

It's like gambling.

ya ungraded cards arent worth selling. However PSA and Beckett the major graders are absolutely overrun. Looking at minimum one year to get cards back after submission for grading. The whole market is insane. Leaf Slab Mania boxes that have 7 cards total are 2500 bucks, even low level boxes that used to be 70 are now 200 and up.

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« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2021, 12:32:10 PM »
ya ungraded cards arent worth selling. However PSA and Beckett the major graders are absolutely overrun. Looking at minimum one year to get cards back after submission for grading. The whole market is insane. Leaf Slab Mania boxes that have 7 cards total are 2500 bucks, even low level boxes that used to be 70 are now 200 and up.

I didn't realize it had gotten to that level of backlog.

I do know when they "hit" on some, it was thousands in profit.

One guy was getting advice on soccer players from a buddy, and buying the cards, and was doing pretty well.

They don't tell me about the stinkers though, so I'm sure it balances out a bit.
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Re: Sports Cards
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2021, 12:32:43 PM »

A Mickey Mantle baseball card has broken the record for the highest-selling sports card ever, PWCC Marketplace announced on Thursday.

The 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle card, which was rated a 9/10 by the Professional Sports Authenticator (PSA), sold for $5.2 million to actor and entrepreneur Rob Gough, ESPN reported.


a piece of cardboard for 5 mill. Unreal
Zion Williamson 1 of 1s were over 100k 3 months ago and have plummeted so the bubble is bursting

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Re: Sports Cards
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2021, 12:34:14 PM »
this guys channel is the best for discussing the card market

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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2021, 12:36:33 PM »
Ha, stopped collecting in '90 and still have them all. Hmmm.

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« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2021, 12:38:02 PM »
Ha, stopped collecting in '90 and still have them all. Hmmm.

you may be sitting on a fortune. As long as its pre 90s. The market got way oversaturated in the 90s and not much is worth anything unless you have a big name rookie or a special insert

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Re: Sports Cards
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2021, 12:40:32 PM »
have all the 70's stars rookie cards hof brett,yount,molitor,boggs,fisk,ECT,,,wonder how much$$$

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Re: Sports Cards
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2021, 12:49:05 PM »
have all the 70's stars rookie cards hof brett,yount,molitor,boggs,fisk,ECT,,,wonder how much$$$

it all comes down to grading, and you have to get them graded
a Brett rookie can range from 200 to 1000 depending on grade

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/1975-TOPPS-GEORGE-BRETT-228-ROOKIE-RC-HOF-PSA-8-NM-MT/184620156965?hash=item2afc380825:g:1wgAAOSwoYNf~2LG

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Re: Sports Cards
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2021, 12:57:57 PM »
Curt Flood's monopoly man

So-called "Flood guy" Mike Hally shows off his extensive Curt Flood baseball card collection. Winni Wintermeyer
Aug 26, 2014
Mina Kimes
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BASEBALL CARD COLLECTING, like baseball itself, is a world governed by tidy metrics -- achievement, timing, scarcity. But every now and then, an aberration throws things into disarray. Rich Klein stumbled across one such glitch a few years ago when he heard a rumor about a card that was confounding hobbyists. Klein, a mortgage servicer who moonlights as a collector, looked up the card­ -- the 1964 Topps Curt Flood, a middling, widely produced issue -- and saw that it was inexplicably overpriced. "I did a little research and thought, 'This is fascinating,'" he says.


A low-quality copy of the '64 Flood goes for about $30 -- more than five times what it should, Klein estimates. A pristine copy costs upward of $1,000. Such prices defy logic; while the Cardinals' center fielder was an exceptional ballplayer -- Flood won the Gold Glove seven times -- he was no Mickey Mantle. Flood is best known for challenging baseball's reserve clause, spurring the creation of free agency.


A low-quality copy of this Curt Flood card sells for about $30, but higher-quality cards can go for more than $1,000. Winni Wintermeyer
The case of the '64 Flood has befuddled card hounds for years. A blogger who chronicled his pursuit of the entire '64 Topps set called it "one of the more perplexing cards" in the collection. Numerous message-board threads pondered the riddle. "This card was a pain," complained one collector. Others said they had heard a single buyer was gobbling up inventory. "Perhaps he's just absent-minded and forgets to cross that card off his want list," someone offered. Klein wrote about the '64 Flood for Sports Collectors Daily, noting that it had attained "mythical status."

Many fans build collections around a single player. Very few, though, have sought out multiple copies of a single card. Reggie Jackson is rumored to have tried to buy every copy of his own rookie card; one anonymous collector owns more than 300 of the 1,000 copies of Albert Pujols' 2001 Donruss Elite card. Cornering the market is not only difficult but also unlikely to be profitable; as soon as supply expands again, inflated prices typically plummet.

Chris Buckler, a dealer in Kentucky, says he's sold about 10 cards to the so-called Flood guy. He's met him at card shows, but he can't recall his name. "It's a weird hobby," he says. The message-board threads didn't reveal the collector's identity, but one commenter wrote that an eBay account belonging to Madcardbuyer seemed to be a locus of Flood-related activity. The user's avatar is a tiny photograph of two cats lounging inside a home office. His name, the site says, is Mike Hally.

A quick records search produces an address, then a number. When Hally picks up the phone, he chuckles. "You've found the guy," he says.

Hally, 59, is a retired engineer. He spent 25 years at Atari designing games like Star Wars. He's lived in California since 1969, when his family left tiny Centralia, Missouri. During the summer of '64, Hally, then 9 years old, played center field like his idol Flood. "He could do everything," says Hally, who smuggled his mom's transistor radio into school to listen to games. That fall, St. Louis won its first World Series in 18 years.

Decades later, while working at Atari, Hally started collecting cards. When he first saw the '64 Flood, memories washed over him. He was enchanted by the player's grave pose -- glove up, hand nestled inside. "He's just got that look of determination in his eyes," Hally says. He decided to purchase several copies of the card. Then he bought a few more. Eventually he had acquired so many '64 Floods that dealers started setting them aside for him. Today he owns some 4,000 copies, likely close to a quarter of the population. He keeps them in special boxes, stashing the most valuable mint-condition ones in a safe.


Hally admits that his hoarding has created "a nightmare in the hobby." He has seen the posts about the collector. "I thought, 'Oh yeah, that's me.'"

It's easy to understand why Hally loves Flood's card. It's less clear why he decided to buy all of them. He doesn't have a simple explanation. "Lots of people do things that some people think are weird," he says. He has no plans to sell. Instead, he's still chasing a dream that reminds him of his past while also pushing him forward. Every morning, he wakes up and checks to see if a new '64 Flood is for sale.

"I bought one yesterday," he says. "I'll probably buy one today."

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Re: Sports Cards
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2021, 01:00:00 PM »
Curt Flood's monopoly man

So-called "Flood guy" Mike Hally shows off his extensive Curt Flood baseball card collection. Winni Wintermeyer
Aug 26, 2014
Mina Kimes
ESPN Senior Writer
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BASEBALL CARD COLLECTING, like baseball itself, is a world governed by tidy metrics -- achievement, timing, scarcity. But every now and then, an aberration throws things into disarray. Rich Klein stumbled across one such glitch a few years ago when he heard a rumor about a card that was confounding hobbyists. Klein, a mortgage servicer who moonlights as a collector, looked up the card­ -- the 1964 Topps Curt Flood, a middling, widely produced issue -- and saw that it was inexplicably overpriced. "I did a little research and thought, 'This is fascinating,'" he says.


A low-quality copy of the '64 Flood goes for about $30 -- more than five times what it should, Klein estimates. A pristine copy costs upward of $1,000. Such prices defy logic; while the Cardinals' center fielder was an exceptional ballplayer -- Flood won the Gold Glove seven times -- he was no Mickey Mantle. Flood is best known for challenging baseball's reserve clause, spurring the creation of free agency.


A low-quality copy of this Curt Flood card sells for about $30, but higher-quality cards can go for more than $1,000. Winni Wintermeyer
The case of the '64 Flood has befuddled card hounds for years. A blogger who chronicled his pursuit of the entire '64 Topps set called it "one of the more perplexing cards" in the collection. Numerous message-board threads pondered the riddle. "This card was a pain," complained one collector. Others said they had heard a single buyer was gobbling up inventory. "Perhaps he's just absent-minded and forgets to cross that card off his want list," someone offered. Klein wrote about the '64 Flood for Sports Collectors Daily, noting that it had attained "mythical status."

Many fans build collections around a single player. Very few, though, have sought out multiple copies of a single card. Reggie Jackson is rumored to have tried to buy every copy of his own rookie card; one anonymous collector owns more than 300 of the 1,000 copies of Albert Pujols' 2001 Donruss Elite card. Cornering the market is not only difficult but also unlikely to be profitable; as soon as supply expands again, inflated prices typically plummet.

Chris Buckler, a dealer in Kentucky, says he's sold about 10 cards to the so-called Flood guy. He's met him at card shows, but he can't recall his name. "It's a weird hobby," he says. The message-board threads didn't reveal the collector's identity, but one commenter wrote that an eBay account belonging to Madcardbuyer seemed to be a locus of Flood-related activity. The user's avatar is a tiny photograph of two cats lounging inside a home office. His name, the site says, is Mike Hally.

A quick records search produces an address, then a number. When Hally picks up the phone, he chuckles. "You've found the guy," he says.

Hally, 59, is a retired engineer. He spent 25 years at Atari designing games like Star Wars. He's lived in California since 1969, when his family left tiny Centralia, Missouri. During the summer of '64, Hally, then 9 years old, played center field like his idol Flood. "He could do everything," says Hally, who smuggled his mom's transistor radio into school to listen to games. That fall, St. Louis won its first World Series in 18 years.

Decades later, while working at Atari, Hally started collecting cards. When he first saw the '64 Flood, memories washed over him. He was enchanted by the player's grave pose -- glove up, hand nestled inside. "He's just got that look of determination in his eyes," Hally says. He decided to purchase several copies of the card. Then he bought a few more. Eventually he had acquired so many '64 Floods that dealers started setting them aside for him. Today he owns some 4,000 copies, likely close to a quarter of the population. He keeps them in special boxes, stashing the most valuable mint-condition ones in a safe.


Hally admits that his hoarding has created "a nightmare in the hobby." He has seen the posts about the collector. "I thought, 'Oh yeah, that's me.'"

It's easy to understand why Hally loves Flood's card. It's less clear why he decided to buy all of them. He doesn't have a simple explanation. "Lots of people do things that some people think are weird," he says. He has no plans to sell. Instead, he's still chasing a dream that reminds him of his past while also pushing him forward. Every morning, he wakes up and checks to see if a new '64 Flood is for sale.

"I bought one yesterday," he says. "I'll probably buy one today."

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« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2021, 01:03:39 PM »
http://baseballcardpedia.com/index.php/1993_Stadium_Club      limited series of first day production  high end cards.
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« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2021, 01:05:32 PM »
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« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2021, 01:24:46 PM »
EBAY IS ALLOVER THE PLACE $$ WISE,i have ripken and rickey henderson rookies they are either so so or over the top prices.

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Re: Sports Cards
« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2021, 02:30:11 PM »
I used to be big into collecting. Used to sell some stuff as well.

Sold an Eli Manning autographed rookie card with a patch from his jersey for  $325
 
Sold a Peyton Manning and Eli Manning dual autograph for $425.

There is one card I regret not holding on to.

It was an Aaron Rodgers autographed rookie.

I sold it for like $125 bucks back when he was still a backup to Favre. Ungraded, it is worth about $1,000 bucks.

Getting it graded would of added a ton of value to it as well.

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« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2021, 02:49:43 PM »
Collecting cards is also very expensive. To really have a chance of getting valuable cards these days, you have to buy hobby packs and boxes, not that crap they sell for $19.99 at Target or Wal-Mart.

A box of cards (the packs and amount of cards vary) can easily cost $100's of dollars.

It's basically like gambling and the stock market.

I should have waited to sell the Rodgers, and I sold the Eli cards when they were hot.

Best card I have now would probably be a Jamal Murray (NBA) autographed and jersey patch rookie card.

I believe it's only numbered to 25. Should of tried to sell it when he was going nuts in the playoffs this past season.

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« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2021, 02:52:24 PM »
I just payed my property taxes selling comic books on Ebay.

I have some insane comics that they will have to pry from my cold dead hands.

I could buy a nice new car if I sold them all.

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« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2021, 02:56:45 PM »
I know 2 people who buy cards online, then send to an authenticator, who grades them and sends back.

Then the cards either go up or down in value, and they resell.

It's like gambling.
They do the same thing with comic books.

I could have a comic with a higher grade than the same exact issue that you have,but if you pay 65 bucks to get it graded by CGC,  even though I may  list mine online for 70 bucks the cat with the graded one lists his for 500 dollars even though my book may be in better condition,and the idiots pay for it.

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« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2021, 03:01:30 PM »
I just payed my property taxes selling comic books on Ebay.

I have some insane comics that they will have to pry from my cold dead hands.

I could buy a nice new car if I sold them all.
What are some of your gems, Wes?

I have a few boxes of comics myself. Mostly Batman, some Wolverine and Blade.

Don't think any of mine are particularly valuable. Except for maybe a series I have of Batman (Dark Victory)

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« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2021, 03:05:44 PM »
They do the same thing with comic books.

I could have a comic with a higher grade than the same exact issue that you have,but if you pay 65 bucks to get it graded by CGC,  even though I may  list mine online for 70 bucks the cat with the graded one lists his for 500 dollars even though my book may be in better condition,and the idiots pay for it.
It's basically because collector's want a verified product.

I sold all my cards ungraded. However, I'm a stickler for the condition of my cards. I wouldn't sell something if it had a bent corner, scratches etc....

So I would tell them in the description, that the card was in great condition, and would grade high, if they chose to do so.

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« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2021, 03:06:09 PM »
What are some of your gems, Wes?

I have a few boxes of comics myself. Mostly Batman, some Wolverine and Blade.

Don't think any of mine are particularly valuable. Except for maybe a series I have of Batman (Dark Victory)
I have 99% Marvel comics from the Silver and Bronze ages..............60`s and 70`s............early to mid 80`s.

Every issue of the Avengers from # 1 to the mid 300`s.................some are reprints as I could never afford to buy some of the very early issues.............they go for HUGE money and I mean HUGE.

Have tons of old X-Men,Thor,Fantastic Four etc. etc.................all worth pretty big bucks.