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Re: What happened to BLM and Defund the Police?
« Reply #75 on: May 30, 2021, 02:17:56 PM »
BLM is not a charity- it is a policy organization. They don't give money out to individuals. And if they did you would be complaining about that.  ::) They've given plenty of money to other organizations and BLM offshoots, much higher than the industry standard.

Secondly, ThinLizzy posted a quote( ironically, in support of you) and it showed that Taylor's mother was specifically talking about BLM LOUISVILLE, which is not the same thing  as the BLM Cullors founded.  And that's been a big issue with organizations with BLM in their names, because there are many that are not connected. Alicia Garza (who co-founded BLM with Cullors) has implied that's one of the reasons she stepped away, so she could work on a project with similar goals with fewer organizational issues.

And what organizations are investigating her?

Breona's family isn't the only family BLM didn't help....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9632465/Mothers-black-police-shooting-victims-accuse-departing-BLM-director-Patrisse-Cullors-lying.html

Pretty bad when other black activists are calling for an investigation

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/black-lives-matter-co-founder-patrisse-cullors-step-down

Surely you must be able to find several organizations or people BLM has helped, right?

Should be real easy. Feel free to prove us wrong otherwise it's quite obvious BLM is a sham.


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Re: What happened to BLM and Defund the Police?
« Reply #76 on: May 30, 2021, 02:19:48 PM »
BLM is a Marxist front group and also being used to shake down companies so the thugs running it can get rich.

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Re: What happened to BLM and Defund the Police?
« Reply #77 on: May 30, 2021, 03:28:17 PM »
Breona's family isn't the only family BLM didn't help....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9632465/Mothers-black-police-shooting-victims-accuse-departing-BLM-director-Patrisse-Cullors-lying.html

Pretty bad when other black activists are calling for an investigation

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/black-lives-matter-co-founder-patrisse-cullors-step-down

Surely you must be able to find several organizations or people BLM has helped, right?

Should be real easy. Feel free to prove us wrong otherwise it's quite obvious BLM is a sham.


It is super easy. It would have been super easy for you, too, just conducting a 3 second google search.
 
Firstly, here's the impact statement from BLM. Quick google search:
https://www.thenonprofittimes.com/npt_articles/blm-impact-report-shows-networks-strength-fundraising/

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BLMGNF distributed $21.7 million — 23 percent of total assets — in grants to 33 organizations and Black Lives Matter chapters. The organization reported $8.4 million in operating expenses. At the end of the year, after expenses and grant distributions, the organization had a balance of roughly $60 million.


Secondly, and more importantly, here's some background about how the BLM Foundation operates:
https://www.insider.com/what-is-thousand-currents-black-lives-matter-charity-2020-6

Cliffnotes: It operated under a fiscal sponsorship  with a thousand currents up until last year. What this meant is that a Thousand Currents had to approve  BLM spending/grant disbursements until BLM was given non-profit status (which happened last year) and they were legally responsible for any malfeasance. Cullors had already purchased three of her "suspicious properties" by the time the sponsorship ended, during a time when she wouldn't even have been able to misappropriate BLM money if she wanted to.

As I said in the very first line of the post you quoted, BLM is not make-a-wish. Their mission is not to handout money to individuals. It is a policy organization. I can understand the families' frustrations over their loved ones playing a huge part in BLM's visibility, but that is not proof of fraud. 

In the last year, donations to BLM organizations exploded, possibly 50x greater than any previous year. Any organization would have hiccups with that kind of growth and issues with dispersing, especially considering there are dozens of other local organizations and chapters with variations on the name with no affiliation. The fact that BLM Foundation operated under a fiscal sponsorship is just further proof of that.

The fact that there are tensions between them is not unexpected or proof of fraud. In the very article you posted (presumably to support your point), the author details how Cullors made most of her money through outside projects (including a best selling book) and specifically says " although there is no suggestion of any wrongdoing on the part of Cullors."

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Re: What happened to BLM and Defund the Police?
« Reply #78 on: May 30, 2021, 03:40:03 PM »

It is super easy. It would have been super easy for you, too, just conducting a 3 second google search.
 
Firstly, here's the impact statement from BLM. Quick google search:
https://www.thenonprofittimes.com/npt_articles/blm-impact-report-shows-networks-strength-fundraising/


Secondly, and more importantly, here's some background about how the BLM Foundation operates:
https://www.insider.com/what-is-thousand-currents-black-lives-matter-charity-2020-6

Cliffnotes: It operated under a fiscal sponsorship  with a thousand currents up until last year. What this meant is that a Thousand Currents had to approve  BLM spending/grant disbursements until BLM was given non-profit status (which happened last year) and they were legally responsible for any malfeasance. Cullors had already purchased three of her "suspicious properties" by the time the sponsorship ended, during a time when she wouldn't even have been able to misappropriate BLM money if she wanted to.

As I said in the very first line of the post you quoted, BLM is not make-a-wish. Their mission is not to handout money to individuals. It is a policy organization. I can understand the families' frustrations over their loved ones playing a huge part in BLM's visibility, but that is not proof of fraud. 

In the last year, donations to BLM organizations exploded, possibly 50x greater than any previous year. Any organization would have hiccups with that kind of growth and issues with dispersing, especially considering there are dozens of other local organizations and chapters with variations on the name with no affiliation. The fact that BLM Foundation operated under a fiscal sponsorship is just further proof of that.

The fact that there are tensions between them is not unexpected or proof of fraud. In the very article you posted (presumably to support your point), the author details how Cullors made most of her money through outside projects (including a best selling book) and specifically says " although there is no suggestion of any wrongdoing on the part of Cullors."

I have to admit, I wasn't fully aware of how big of a sham BLM truly was. Earning their money on the backs of 'police brutality' victims, but literally giving nothing back to the victims.

I wonder if all the people who march realize that BLM will give them nothing if they become a 'vicitm' themselves.

Still haven't had anyone confirm where a single dollar of BLM money went. Lots of policies, but no real proof.

I sure hope the resignation of Patrice really wakes people up.

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Re: What happened to BLM and Defund the Police?
« Reply #79 on: May 30, 2021, 07:05:28 PM »
I have to admit, I wasn't fully aware of how big of a sham BLM truly was. Earning their money on the backs of 'police brutality' victims, but literally giving nothing back to the victims.

I wonder if all the people who march realize that BLM will give them nothing if they become a 'vicitm' themselves.

Still haven't had anyone confirm where a single dollar of BLM money went. Lots of policies, but no real proof.

I sure hope the resignation of Patrice really wakes people up.

Just move the goalposts wherever you need to. Eventually you'll be right.

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Re: What happened to BLM and Defund the Police?
« Reply #80 on: May 30, 2021, 07:25:16 PM »
Just move the goalposts wherever you need to. Eventually you'll be right.

Typical Libby...adding context and more facts means I'm moving the goal posts??

Too bad you don't see BLM for what it truly is. Sad that so many blacks are made to feel like they can't achieve anything on their own, all the while, BLM is cashing in.

I'm just glad BLM is finally being exposed for what it truly is. They've literally don't nothing to help blacks.

Why do you think it is that blacks are made to feel interior in this country and other races are not?


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Re: What happened to BLM and Defund the Police?
« Reply #81 on: May 30, 2021, 07:39:21 PM »
Typical Libby...adding context and more facts means I'm moving the goal posts??
You didn't add any context or facts. I explained to you exactly why your conspiracy theory makes no sense and your reply was "Oh, well. It still feels like a sham."

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Too bad you don't see BLM for what it truly is. Sad that so many blacks are made to feel like they can't achieve anything on their own, all the while, BLM is cashing in.
Why do you think it is that blacks are made to feel interior in this country and other races are not?
Just a very stupid set of ideas. 

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Re: What happened to BLM and Defund the Police?
« Reply #82 on: May 31, 2021, 05:58:07 PM »
Everyone that has whined to "defund the police" should get assfucked to Hades by the criminals they claim to love.  There's one race - human.  Those that act like animals should be put to death if they are rapists, murderers, pedophiles and the like.

Color means nothing.  Character everything.  I don't give a fuque if you whine that your upbringing made you a murderer or rapist or pedophile. You are responsible for you actions, not society.  Liberals deserve to be devoured by their pets.

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Re: What happened to BLM and Defund the Police?
« Reply #83 on: May 31, 2021, 06:51:11 PM »
Everyone that has whined to "defund the police" should get assfucked to Hades by the criminals they claim to love.  There's one race - human.  Those that act like animals should be put to death if they are rapists, murderers, pedophiles and the like.

Color means nothing.  Character everything.  I don't give a fuque if you whine that your upbringing made you a murderer or rapist or pedophile. You are responsible for you actions, not society.  Liberals deserve to be devoured by their pets.

Lame gimmick trying to be “edgy.”

Pitiful.

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Re: What happened to BLM and Defund the Police?
« Reply #84 on: May 31, 2021, 06:52:45 PM »
Everyone that has whined to "defund the police" should get assfucked to Hades by the criminals they claim to love.  There's one race - human.  Those that act like animals should be put to death if they are rapists, murderers, pedophiles and the like.

Color means nothing.  Character everything.  I don't give a fuque if you whine that your upbringing made you a murderer or rapist or pedophile. You are responsible for you actions, not society.  Liberals deserve to be devoured by their pets.

Tell this to the Dindus...they somehow think they have a different set of rules.

If you obey the police, most often you go home unscathed. So simple.

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Re: What happened to BLM and Defund the Police?
« Reply #85 on: May 31, 2021, 06:56:32 PM »
I have never been in favor of defunding the police. I do think some of them need more training. How does that happen if there are fewer funds? I also believe police applicants should have a thorough psychological vetting before they are hired and periodically during their careers....not just when they snap and end up killing someone who they could have just arrested. Had this been the case with Derek Chauvin, maybe he wouldn't be in the pickle he's in now.
 

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Re: What happened to BLM and Defund the Police?
« Reply #86 on: May 31, 2021, 07:05:48 PM »
I have never been in favor of defunding the police. I do think some of them need more training. How does that happen if there are fewer funds? I also believe police applicants should have a thorough psychological vetting before they are hired and periodically during their careers....not just when they snap and end up killing someone who they could have just arrested. Had this been the case with Derek Chauvin, maybe he wouldn't be in the pickle he's in now.

Have you ever seen real big city urban crime?

How exactly would you train a police officer to deal with crime in the Southside of Chicago?

How would you psychologically prepare a new police recruit to deal with crime in an area like the South and West sides of Chicago?

You are completely ignoring the wrongdoing of the people being arrested and the complete lack of respect for law enforcement by segments of the population. If a police officer even attempts to enforce the law nowadays the felons know to immediately file a complaint against the arresting officer.

Politicians have handcuffed the police by trying to gain favor with the 13% constituents and they have turned Democrat run big cities into war zones.

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Re: What happened to BLM and Defund the Police?
« Reply #87 on: May 31, 2021, 07:14:48 PM »
another pesky "white supremacist" assaulting a random asian woman

https://www.instagram.com/p/CPjv-qxDEdx/

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Re: What happened to BLM and Defund the Police?
« Reply #88 on: May 31, 2021, 07:17:50 PM »
Have you ever seen real big city urban crime?

How exactly would you train a police officer to deal with crime in the Southside of Chicago?

How would you psychologically prepare a new police recruit to deal with crime in an area like the South and West sides of Chicago?

You are completely ignoring the wrongdoing of the people being arrested and the complete lack of respect for law enforcement by segments of the population. If a police officer even attempts to enforce the law nowadays the felons know to immediately file a complaint against the arresting officer.

Politicians have handcuffed the police by trying to gain favor with the 13% constituents and they have turned Democrat run big cities into war zones.

I find it odd that most cases of "police brutality" are against black people. It's really weird how these 'racist' cops are just racist towards black people.

It's also odd how black people seem to feel the need to resist arrest and ignore commands made by the police...it's almost as if blacks were given a different set of rules.


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Re: What happened to BLM and Defund the Police?
« Reply #89 on: May 31, 2021, 07:21:23 PM »
another pesky "white supremacist" assaulting a random asian woman

https://www.instagram.com/p/CPjv-qxDEdx/

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I must have missed this story on CNN. That guy Dindu nuffin and from what I can tell, it was the Asian lady's fault ;)

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Re: What happened to BLM and Defund the Police?
« Reply #90 on: May 31, 2021, 07:27:52 PM »
I find it odd that most cases of "police brutality" are against black people. It's really weird how these 'racist' cops are just racist towards black people.

It's also odd how black people seem to feel the need to resist arrest and ignore commands made by the police...it's almost as if blacks were given a different set of rules.

It is easier to claim that the justice system is systematically racist than to hold the people being arrested accountable for their actions.


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Re: What happened to BLM and Defund the Police?
« Reply #92 on: May 31, 2021, 07:49:52 PM »
Have you ever seen real big city urban crime?

How exactly would you train a police officer to deal with crime in the Southside of Chicago?

How would you psychologically prepare a new police recruit to deal with crime in an area like the South and West sides of Chicago?

You are completely ignoring the wrongdoing of the people being arrested and the complete lack of respect for law enforcement by segments of the population. If a police officer even attempts to enforce the law nowadays the felons know to immediately file a complaint against the arresting officer.

Politicians have handcuffed the police by trying to gain favor with the 13% constituents and they have turned Democrat run big cities into war zones.

- No, I have not.

- I have no idea....never been to Chicago, even though my paternal father lived and died there.

- I don't believe I am ignoring these things. I have never disrespected law enforcement, maybe because my experience with it is nil. No doubt there are many erroneous complaints against arresting officers.

- Is this what Portland is experiencing right now? Then, thank goodness my late wife and I didn't buy an upscale, high-rise condo in downtown Portland.


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Re: What happened to BLM and Defund the Police?
« Reply #93 on: May 31, 2021, 08:41:33 PM »
Have you ever seen real big city urban crime?

 If a police officer even attempts to enforce the law nowadays the felons know to immediately file a complaint against the arresting officer.

Politicians have handcuffed the police by trying to gain favor with the 13% constituents and they have turned Democrat run big cities into war zones.

Can you link to some news stories  where cops were disciplined because someone filed a complaint after an arrest?

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Re: What happened to BLM and Defund the Police?
« Reply #94 on: May 31, 2021, 08:55:46 PM »
Can you link to some news stories  where cops were disciplined because someone filed a complaint after an arrest?

it probably rarely happens and for good reason

we need more police brutality, not less

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Re: What happened to BLM and Defund the Police?
« Reply #95 on: May 31, 2021, 09:55:42 PM »
Can you link to some news stories  where cops were disciplined because someone filed a complaint after an arrest?

This information isn't always public record.

Besides, you know damn well MSM doesn't want to report on anything that goes against the narrative. Police that are disciplined does not support systemic racism.

Nice try.

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Re: What happened to BLM and Defund the Police?
« Reply #96 on: May 31, 2021, 10:03:05 PM »
- No, I have not.

- I have no idea....never been to Chicago, even though my paternal father lived and died there.

- I don't believe I am ignoring these things. I have never disrespected law enforcement, maybe because my experience with it is nil. No doubt there are many erroneous complaints against arresting officers.

- Is this what Portland is experiencing right now? Then, thank goodness my late wife and I didn't buy an upscale, high-rise condo in downtown Portland.

C'mon, man!  :D

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Re: What happened to BLM and Defund the Police?
« Reply #97 on: May 31, 2021, 11:35:23 PM »
another pesky "white supremacist" assaulting a random asian woman

https://www.instagram.com/p/CPjv-qxDEdx/

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I hope she wasn't a decent Asian who resisted the media's anti-White pogromganda.

Below----->Their perverted front "men" foot soldiers they're having do their dirty work:



Media ignores this type of thing routinely. Media are terrorists in our own country and likely everyone's.


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Re: What happened to BLM and Defund the Police?
« Reply #98 on: June 01, 2021, 04:38:10 AM »
Such a wonderful group.

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Re: What happened to BLM and Defund the Police?
« Reply #99 on: June 01, 2021, 10:58:12 AM »
This information isn't always public record.

Besides, you know damn well MSM doesn't want to report on anything that goes against the narrative. Police that are disciplined does not support systemic racism.

Nice try.

LOL "Nice Try"?  trying to get someone  to confirm a claim they made with any outside information? You would write this haha

There's plenty of non-MSM pop-up news sources that get posted here. The simple fact of the matter is that  what that poster claimed happens doesn't happen. There is no conspiracy to keep it secret. Cops aren't scared to police for fear of being reported and when they are investigated are rarely disciplined.