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Re: Time Magazine admits Trump was right
« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2021, 01:59:11 PM »
Problem is, Coach is not good at arguing his case, never really does. Plus he talked about hacked machines, which he couldn't prove. When I asked if he was sure of this or that theory he admitted he wasn't, he just knew it was rigged in some way.

Yes it was rigged in some way, powerful interest groups came together and controlled the flow of information and so on. They claim they were "saving democracy", which I find ridiculous. Democracy is such a joke from so many angles.

I mean, what is this?

When other states control and censor the internet before election that is called rigging an election by the US and world community. Numerous examples of it. There's a definite double standard.
Most recently Twitter complained of Ugandan internet censorship. This rubs people the wrong way, the hypocrisy.

I did prove it. NO ONE took the time to read, watch or listen to it. You just proved it others you wouldn’t have said it. But I will give it to you, seems you did read this article that no one else did this thread

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Re: Time Magazine admits Trump was right
« Reply #26 on: February 06, 2021, 02:01:23 PM »
Or rather, lack of evidence.    But don't worry, our little "sherif" and coach will make sure to post some evidence for us.

Actually, it would be interesting to see how the Fox attorneys approach this in the courtroom:
1. Here are a few little snippets of scant evidence
2. Freedom of speech, and we did not actually do any damage to the company. The company would have gone downhill anyway (most likely approach)
3. We are sorry, oh so sorry and look, we pulled Lou Dobbs RIGHT off the air the moment the lawsuit hit our desks.

And those attorneys are most likely on LinkedIn as we speak, looking at “opportunities”.

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Re: Time Magazine admits Trump was right
« Reply #27 on: February 06, 2021, 02:05:47 PM »
Or rather, lack of evidence.    But don't worry, our little "sherif" and coach will make sure to post some evidence for us.

Lurch, you really need shut your ignorant ass up especially since you refused to watch anything anyone put up. Until you can prove otherwise, off yourself

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Re: Time Magazine admits Trump was right
« Reply #28 on: February 06, 2021, 02:41:08 PM »
The most corrupt election ever, rigged by MSM/Tech/Celebs and others. Easy to see and understand if you have any brains.

Easy to understand if your brain is stuck in Trump mode.  :) Try using the reset.

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Re: Time Magazine admits Trump was right
« Reply #29 on: February 06, 2021, 02:49:11 PM »
Easy to understand if your brain is stuck in Trump mode.  :) Try using the reset.

So you gonna sit there and tell us this article did not expose everything Trump was saying you’re saying that it wasn’t rig are you saying that it was rigged make up your mind because the article clearly states whether she knew it or not that it was rigged

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Re: Time Magazine admits Trump was right
« Reply #30 on: February 06, 2021, 02:52:40 PM »

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Re: Time Magazine admits Trump was right
« Reply #31 on: February 06, 2021, 02:59:57 PM »
And despite all that fraud and all the evidence that it exists, no one can seem to post a link to actual evidence and proof.

Let say for one second you were right and there was no proof (which there are mountains of) Pennsylvania Supreme Court changed election law...that’s not their job. Do you even comprehend that?

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Re: Time Magazine admits Trump was right
« Reply #32 on: February 06, 2021, 03:16:08 PM »
I did prove it. NO ONE took the time to read, watch or listen to it. You just proved it others you wouldn’t have said it. But I will give it to you, seems you did read this article that no one else did this thread

Don't assume someone didn't read the article just because they don't agree with you.

Do you agree that Time magazine's bias leans left? If so, explain why they would publish an article that supports Trump's 'stolen election' theory. Time magazine has been going strong since 1923. They are smart enough know the intent of what they publish; otherwise they would have gone bust a long time ago.

The author of the article originally titled 'The Secret Bi-Partisan Campaign That Saved The 2020 Election' written by Molly Ball is TIME's National Political Correspondent. She is the author of a 2020 biography of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. Previously, she covered U.S. politics for The Atlantic and Politico. She is also a political analyst for CNN.

So essentially you are saying that a left leaning magazine published an article written by a political analyst for left leaning CNN that supports Trump's election conspiracy claims. I don't think so.

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Re: Time Magazine admits Trump was right
« Reply #33 on: February 06, 2021, 03:23:17 PM »
Don't assume someone didn't read the article just because they don't agree with you.

Do you agree that Time magazine's bias leans left? If so, explain why they would publish an article that supports Trump's 'stolen election' theory. Time magazine has been going strong since 1923. They are smart enough know the intent of what they publish; otherwise they would have gone bust a long time ago.

The author of the article originally titled 'The Secret Bi-Partisan Campaign That Saved The 2020 Election' written by Molly Ball is TIME's National Political Correspondent. She is the author of a 2020 biography of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. Previously, she covered U.S. politics for The Atlantic and Politico. She is also a political analyst for CNN.

So essentially you are saying that a left leaning magazine published an article written by a political analyst for left leaning CNN that supports Trump's election conspiracy claims. I don't think so.

This is real simple and it’s been real simple since November 4. Prove this wasn’t rigged. I have and many others on here have but when asked to prove it wasn’t, you, they or anyone else in the country can’t. I’ve posted proof/evidence. If you AT ALL intellectually honest would have watched, read and heard the evidence...you chose not to but instead just spun around it.

Post the proof .

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Re: Time Magazine admits Trump was right
« Reply #34 on: February 06, 2021, 03:32:14 PM »

So essentially you are saying that a left leaning magazine published an article written by a political analyst for left leaning CNN that supports Trump's election conspiracy claims. I don't think so.

Yes, in a way they are saying it. The article had the quote, “In a way, Trump was right,” Ball wrote. “There was a conspiracy unfolding behind the scenes

They are laughing at Trump and supporters. We did it and you can't do anything about it.


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Re: Time Magazine admits Trump was right
« Reply #35 on: February 06, 2021, 03:42:45 PM »
In a 6500-word article, author Molly Ball lays out how it all happened:

The handshake between business and labor was just one component of a vast, cross-partisan campaign to protect the election–an extraordinary shadow effort… Their work touched every aspect of the election. They got states to change voting systems and laws and helped secure hundreds of millions in public and private funding.

Time Magazine is scarcely a right-wing website, and the article goes to lengths to make excuses on behalf of the “shadow” campaign, they claim: “The scenario the shadow campaigners were desperate to stop was not a Trump victory. It was an election so calamitous that no result could be discerned at all…”

But the piece concedes “much of this activity took place on the left.”

Time alleges campaigners “successfully pressured social media companies to take a harder line against disinformation and used data-driven strategies to fight viral smears.”

By the eighth paragraph, Ball quotes Norm Eisen, who in early September 2020 the Revolver.news website described as the “Legal hatchet man and central operative in the “color revolution” against President Trump.”

By the eleventh, they note the efforts of Ian Bassin, who The National Pulse exclusively reported on – also in September.

Ball writes that “participants” like Eisen and Bassin now “want the secret history of the 2020 election told, even though it sounds like a paranoid fever dream–a well-funded cabal of powerful people, ranging across industries and ideologies, working together behind the scenes to influence perceptions, change rules and laws, steer media coverage and control the flow of information.”

Ball identifies Mike Podhorzer, political director at AFL-CIO, as “the architect” of the conspiracy.

Changing American Elections Forever.

“The first task was overhauling America’s balky election infrastructure,” Time states, with particular focus on what Phil Kline and the Amistad Project had brought to the attention of the world with the assistance of The National Pulse in October.

They admit:

An assortment of foundations contributed tens of millions in election-administration funding. The Chan Zuckerberg Initiative chipped in $300 million.

The story directly echoes The National Pulse reporting from October 6th, though doesn’t credit the article which stated at the time: “The group recently received $250 million from Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg, and the significant majority of the sum has been funneled into Democratic districts.”

Using George Floyd.

The death of George Floyd was also cynically leveraged for political ends, the article claims:

The racial-justice uprising sparked by George Floyd’s killing in May was not primarily a political movement. The organizers who helped lead it wanted to harness its momentum for the election without allowing it to be co-opted by politicians. Many of those organizers were part of Podhorzer’s network, from the activists in battleground states who partnered with the Democracy Defense Coalition to organizations with leading roles in the Movement for Black Lives.

And the claim is even made that campaigners should be used for their votes and those they could bring with them in their communities, but not to let them anywhere near the levers of power aka politicians.

Big Business.

Then, America’s big corporates stepped in.

While the AFL-CIO and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce pretend to be at each other’s throats, they reality is much of the back and forth is kabuki theater. The article confirms as much:

Neil Bradley, the Chamber’s executive vice president and chief policy officer… wanted to send a broader, more bipartisan message. He reached out to Podhorzer, through an intermediary both men declined to name. Agreeing that their unlikely alliance would be powerful, they began to discuss a joint statement pledging their organizations’ shared commitment to a fair and peaceful election.

The stage was set for the conspiracy to be carried out.

In effect, big business, big activist groups, big unions, and big media would collaborate to keep President Trump away from office and keep reporting on the steal off the airwaves and social media.

And while the article continues to claim the activists were not trying to stop Trump winning but rather guarantee a fair election, one line gives the whole thing away.

Ball reveals an 11pm Zoom call on election night wherein – when President Trump was in the lead – Podhorzer stepped in to calm his colleagues down:

“Podhorzer presented data to show the group that victory was in hand.”

And he told Time something very true: “I don’t think the Trump campaign had a backup plan.”

The article even claims that grassroots conservative activists came close to rumbling the plan, especially in Michigan, where observers were locked out of the counting room and placards placed on windows to stop them seeing inside.

Claiming Credit.

The rationale for the article is simple, and even contained within the piece:

As I was reporting this article in November and December, I heard different claims about who should get the credit for thwarting Trump’s plot.

Liberals argued the role of bottom-up people power shouldn’t be overlooked, particularly the contributions of people of color and local grassroots activists.

Others stressed the heroism of GOP officials like Van Langevelde and Georgia secretary of state Brad Raffensperger, who stood up to Trump at considerable cost. The truth is that neither likely could have succeeded without the other.

In other words, now the constituent parts are trying to claim credit, and along they way, they’ve said the quiet part out loud.

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Re: Time Magazine admits Trump was right
« Reply #36 on: February 06, 2021, 03:48:10 PM »
yeeeeeeeeeee haw look at these city folk argue about something that makes no difference in their day to day lives

Rip should tie em up behind a horse and drag em through the clover

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Re: Time Magazine admits Trump was right
« Reply #37 on: February 06, 2021, 03:58:29 PM »
This is real simple and it’s been real simple since November 4. Prove this wasn’t rigged. I have and many others on here have but when asked to prove it wasn’t, you, they or anyone else in the country can’t. I’ve posted proof/evidence. If you AT ALL intellectually honest would have watched, read and heard the evidence...you chose not to but instead just spun around it.

Post the proof .

Hmmm, I stupidly thought this tread, which you started, was about Time Magazine's article. I believe from what you posted which was that Time magazine admitted Trump was right (the election was stolen), that you misunderstood the article.

I have no interest in continuing a discussion with you which I feel is pointless. Unless I am mistaken, you believe the 2020 election was fraudulent and that Trump won. I do not think the election was stolen. Each of us is entitled to believe whatever we choose. End of story.

Someone says "You prove it" and you counter "no you prove it" and so on and on and on...lt's like children arguing with one another on the playground. 


You posted, "Time magazine is scarcely a right wing website" I couldn't agree more, which is why I posted that it has a left leaning bias.

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Re: Time Magazine admits Trump was right
« Reply #38 on: February 06, 2021, 04:04:38 PM »
Hmmm, I stupidly thought this tread, which you started, was about Time Magazine's article. I believe from what you posted which was that Time magazine admitted Trump was right (the election was stolen), that you misunderstood the article.

I have no interest in continuing a discussion with you which I feel is pointless. Unless I am mistaken, you believe the 2020 election was fraudulent and that Trump won. I do not think the election was stolen. Each of us is entitled to believe whatever we choose. End of story.

Someone says "You prove it" and you counter "no you prove it" and so on and on and on...lt's like children arguing with one another on the playground.

Read my last post (the summary of the article) then tell me I’m the one who didn’t comprehend it.

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Re: Time Magazine admits Trump was right
« Reply #39 on: February 06, 2021, 04:15:30 PM »
Read my last post (the summary of the article) then tell me I’m the one who didn’t comprehend the article.

Sorry, not going to dissect that article for you. Like I said, you are entitled to believe what you choose. You are steadfast in your opinion...great. That's your right.

Trump is not President and Biden is. Nothing you or I say or believe is going to change that. It is time to move on. But hey, if you don't want to or are not ready to get on with your life, that is up to you. Either way, I think you're a descent dude and I wish you the best.

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Re: Time Magazine admits Trump was right
« Reply #40 on: February 06, 2021, 04:34:12 PM »
Sorry, not going to dissect that article for you. Like I said, you are entitled to believe what you choose. You are steadfast in your opinion...great. That's your right.

Trump is not President and Biden is. Nothing you or I say or believe is going to change that. It is time to move on. But hey, if you don't want to or are not ready to get on with your life, that is up to you. Either way, I think you're a descent dude and I wish you the best.

Of course you’re not. It’s already been done and I know Biden is the quasi “President” I knew that long ago right after Nov 3 when THE COUNTING STOPPED around 10pm that evening and the landslide miraculously disappeared the very next morning. This is about future elections. We already know the left have absolutely no regard for the constitution so THEY will have to pay the price

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Re: Time Magazine admits Trump was right
« Reply #41 on: February 06, 2021, 04:34:56 PM »
yeeeeeeeeeee haw look at these city folk argue about something that makes no difference in their day to day lives

Rip should tie em up behind a horse and drag em through the clover

gotta love yellowstone, and beths funbags.

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Re: Time Magazine admits Trump was right
« Reply #42 on: February 06, 2021, 04:39:26 PM »
gotta love yellowstone, and beths funbags.

ya I just finished it........Rip is gonna tear some shit up in season 4

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Re: Time Magazine admits Trump was right
« Reply #43 on: February 06, 2021, 04:43:17 PM »
Lou Dobbs retweeted this awkward little admission, and then deleted it.


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Re: Time Magazine admits Trump was right
« Reply #44 on: February 06, 2021, 05:54:23 PM »
Coach your dumber than I thought.
More proof that uneducated white men are Trump's base.
Whats wrong with you coach?

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Re: Time Magazine admits Trump was right
« Reply #45 on: February 06, 2021, 05:56:36 PM »
Coach your dumber than I thought.
More proof that uneducated white men are Trump's base.
Whats wrong with you coach?

How come I can’t get an answer out of anyone except for BS like this?

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Re: Time Magazine admits Trump was right
« Reply #46 on: February 06, 2021, 06:03:20 PM »
Lou Dobbs retweeted this awkward little admission, and then deleted it.



So you’re getting this from the Washington Post? K...

From Newsmax - Dobbs Retweeting Supporters After Cancellation

 https://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/1008907/18

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Re: Time Magazine admits Trump was right
« Reply #47 on: February 06, 2021, 07:00:36 PM »
How come I can’t get an answer out of anyone except for BS like this?

Coach, have you always been this "sane", or do you find yourself becoming more and more "sane" as you get older?

Also, do you believe that the "planet" we live on may be more disc-shaped, rather than ball-shaped?

Is it likely that the U.S. "government" faked the moon landings by filming all thescenes on a movie/production stage?

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Re: Time Magazine admits Trump was right
« Reply #48 on: February 06, 2021, 07:08:07 PM »
Coach, well done.

Many said the same things a few months ago and were either labeled racist or conspiracy theorists, and now a lib magazine admits to what these people were saying all along!

Hopefully something happens because of this.

Btw, I don’t see how you have patience arguing with these people, it’s gotta be highly frustrating.  They really believe there was ZERO election fraud and that 80m people voted for Biden, more than Obama and Clinton!  Lol   Wonder why their lawyers changed voting laws starting in 2019, and the mail in vote was the biggest sham in American history.   People can riot without masks and be fine but can’t vote in person, 6 feet away with masks on.  Go figure 
you are gay.

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Re: Time Magazine admits Trump was right
« Reply #49 on: February 06, 2021, 09:59:30 PM »
Pretty amazing article coming from a leftist rag...

BTW...Told ya So!

https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/

If I had a dollar for every link you posted that contradicted your position I could retire...