Not a Fan of a New Third Party

[mphgrove]

First of all, the name Patriot Party would be a poor name choice, driving people away by implying that non-members are automatically not “patriots”. But one reason for us being the longest lasting democracy on the planet, is the duality of having one party which is on the conservative side and another one which is on the liberal side. We need both or we will be a nation adrift. So as much as there is a drawing back from kooks like Marjorie Taylor Greene and radicals like Octavio Cortez and Omar, it is understandable that each party needs to preserve itself by being a “big tent”. Right now the anger of many Trump voters at the so-called “Republican establishment” is dramatic and scary. There is also anger among Democratic radicals at Democratic centrists, but that seems more muted right now.

But hopefully no third party like in Europe, and I guess that means don’t over muzzle the weirdos. I suppose Trump should be let back on Twitter too, though I dread the day. We do supposedly value free speech above all else.

[Humble Narcissist]

A third party can't succeed in the US.  If you want political change you have to take over one of the existing parties.  Trumpsters need to take over the Republican party like socialist have taken over the Democratic party.

[SOMEPARTS]

First of all, the name Patriot Party would be a poor name choice, driving people away by implying that non-members are automatically not “patriots”. But one reason for us being the longest lasting democracy on the planet, is the duality of having one party which is on the conservative side and another one which is on the liberal side. We need both or we will be a nation adrift. So as much as there is a drawing back from kooks like Marjorie Taylor Greene and radicals like Octavio Cortez and Omar, it is understandable that each party needs to preserve itself by being a “big tent”. Right now the anger of many Trump voters at the so-called “Republican establishment” is dramatic and scary. There is also anger among Democratic radicals at Democratic centrists, but seems more right now.

But hopefully no third party like in Europe, and I guess that means don’t over muzzle the weirdos. I suppose Trump should be let back on Twitter too, though I dread the day.

"dramatic and scary". Oh FFS.


What is scary is having a country with two parties unable to maintain a proper border.

[SOMEPARTS]

A third party can't succeed in the US.  If you want political change you have to take over one of the existing parties.  Trumpsters need to take over the Republican party like socialist have taken over the Democratic party.

Trump is the leader of the party until he tells his voters otherwise.

[Humble Narcissist]

Trump is the leader of the party until he tells his voters otherwise.

He's still the leader but they haven't yet taken over the party.  They may in the next election, we will see.

[mphgrove]

Trump is the leader of the party until he tells his voters otherwise.

My point is I hope he does not tell his voters otherwise. The Republican Party needs to work all this through.

[Humble Narcissist]

My point is I hope he does not tell his voters otherwise. The Republican Party needs to work all this through.

Yes, split they have no chance.

[SOMEPARTS]

My point is I hope he does not tell his voters otherwise. The Republican Party needs to work all this through.

The ones with guts get shit on. Conservatism Light doesn't sell in the age of the free shit army.

Conservative voters can plainly see the only difference between the two parties(minus Trump) is the speed at which they want to part the country out  to the highest bidder.

Call it populism if you want but you either want the country to stay the USA or not.

[mphgrove]

The ones with guts get shit on. Conservatism Light doesn't sell in the age of the free shit army.

Conservative voters can plainly see the only difference between the two parties(minus Trump) is the speed at which they want to part the country out  to the highest bidder.

Call it populism if you want but you either want the country to stay the USA or not.

But the dilemma for true conservatives is that what you are saying is not at all in the spirit of a “big tent” and will drive center right voters away (lumping center right voters together with Omar, for example). Let me put it this way from a Democratic perspective. I have friends who are radical Democrats (BLM, woke/cancel tendencies, and Trump friends too by the way). Although I have faced a dismissive attitude from those more radical Democratic friends, I have never felt like they consider me a “traitor”. When I say, “dramatic and scary”, I am talking about “traitor anger” (like censoring one another as in Arizona, for example). That is NOT a “big tent” way of operating. Arizona just is more likely to simply trend Democratic with all the non-sensical censoring going on.

[TheGrinch]

A third party can't succeed in the US.  If you want political change you have to take over one of the existing parties.  Trumpsters need to take over the Republican party like socialist have taken over the Democratic party.

what's the point?

the demoncrapps + soros will just rig an election again

[SOMEPARTS]

But the dilemma for true conservatives is that what you are saying is not at all in the spirit of a “big tent” and will drive center right voters away (lumping center right voters together with Omar, for example). Let me put it this way from a Democratic perspective. I have friends who are radical Democrats (BLM, woke/cancel tendencies, and Trump friends too by the way). Although I have faced a dismissive attitude from those more radical Democratic friends, I have never felt like they consider me a “traitor”. When I say, “dramatic and scary”, I am talking about “traitor anger” (like censoring one another as in Arizona, for example). That is NOT a “big tent” way of operating. Arizona just is more likely to simply trend Democratic with all the non-sensical censoring going on.

The big tent is shrinking. Up until the last couple election cycles most of the population WAS paying taxes and WASN'T stupid enough to believe in free stuff for votes. The average earning power in those under 30 is falling in lockstep with the govt getting bigger and more controlling...and more corrupt. We are on a path to parity with the rest of the world in standard of living and the dem platform is the handbook for that. I believe we have passed the tipping point for all of this and Trump was the last gasp of the old USA. After seeing the band aid they put on the economy during the last recession it became clear that a major change was coming.

[Coach is Back!]

Trump is the leader of the party until he tells his voters otherwise.

Would much rather see him put his efforts into Conservative media

[evacnam]

Would much rather see him put his efforts into Conservative media

interestingly, although im not too bright on politics,...I agree, I would love to see this

[SOMEPARTS]

Would much rather see him put his efforts into Conservative media

He needed 4 more years to cement his influence. He will be de-platformed continually. Let's be honest, he had things rolling then they shut the whole country down and silenced everyone for the "election". They had that power and used it.

The technocracy is in control now. They are oligarchs and controllers of the information age, they don't believe in countries or borders or constitutions and they all sure as hell need China like they need air to breathe.

I've stated several times that tech has a very distinct centralizing effect on all things. We are seeing it now. The question is what will all these regular people be doing in 20 years when these special people don't need them? See China, Russia, etc.

[Straw Man]

First of all, the name Patriot Party would be a poor name choice, driving people away by implying that non-members are automatically not “patriots”. But one reason for us being the longest lasting democracy on the planet, is the duality of having one party which is on the conservative side and another one which is on the liberal side. We need both or we will be a nation adrift. So as much as there is a drawing back from kooks like Marjorie Taylor Greene and radicals like Octavio Cortez and Omar, it is understandable that each party needs to preserve itself by being a “big tent”. Right now the anger of many Trump voters at the so-called “Republican establishment” is dramatic and scary. There is also anger among Democratic radicals at Democratic centrists, but that seems more muted right now.

But hopefully no third party like in Europe, and I guess that means don’t over muzzle the weirdos. I suppose Trump should be let back on Twitter too, though I dread the day. We do supposedly value free speech above all else.

They should call it the Seditionist Party or maybe The Confederate Party

The Traitor (or anyone else) has no Constitutional right to Twitter access.  Twitter sets the rules just like everyone other site (including this one).   

[SOMEPARTS]

They should call it the Seditionist Party or maybe The Confederate Party

The Traitor (or anyone else) has no Constitutional right to Twitter access.  Twitter sets the rules just like everyone other site (including this one).

[obsidian]

I would call it:

American Party

[obsidian]

They should call it the Seditionist Party or maybe The Confederate Party

The Traitor (or anyone else) has no Constitutional right to Twitter access.  Twitter sets the rules just like everyone other site (including this one).

You have everything backwards ass! The regressive left politicians in DC are all traitors. They believe in putting China and everyone else but USA first. And they conspired with foreign nations to steal the election and Presidency from Trump.

The Globalist Elite do not care about you one iota! So wake up moron!

[Primemuscle]

You have everything backwards ass! The regressive left politicians in DC are all traitors. They believe in putting China and everyone else but USA first. And they conspired with foreign nations to steal the election and Presidency from Trump.

The Globalist Elite do not care about you one iota! So wake up moron!

I've mostly heard it said "ass backwards" and not backwards ass. Do they mean the same thing?

[Moontrane]

I've mostly heard it said "ass backwards" and not backwards ass. Do they mean the same thing?

From my time in the military: Bass-Ackward.

[Primemuscle]

From my time in the military: Bass-Ackward.

Lol! I'll have to ask my sons about this since they are both retired career military. I am pretty sure you have it right. So from now on I will use the term Bass-Ackward...if that's okay.

[Coach is Back!]

They should call it the Seditionist Party or maybe The Confederate Party

The Traitor (or anyone else) has no Constitutional right to Twitter access.  Twitter sets the rules just like everyone other site (including this one).

The 90% of the political left are by definition, Traitors. Prove me wrong

[Coach is Back!]

Lol! I'll have to ask my sons about this since they are both retired career military. I am pretty sure you have it right. So from now on I will use the term Bass-Ackward...if that's okay.

Your sons being both retired military, how do they feel about you voting for someone that’s in a party that absolutely despises our Military?

[Agnostic007]

The 90% of the political left are by definition, Traitors. Prove me wrong

Ok.. Fact, you're an imbecile

[Agnostic007]

Your sons being both retired military, how do they feel about you voting for someone that’s in a party that absolutely despises our Military?

again, stupid post.