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Re: Life After Death
« Reply #50 on: February 19, 2021, 12:12:41 AM »
I think "Jesus" was based on someone that did exist and left a very strong imprint on those he encountered.  Chances that his Palestinian drivers license read Jesus H. Christ are probably nil.  I agree about the nice story part sans the brutal crucifixion.  That being said, if more people read the actual teaching of Jesus, namely the beatitudes, the world would be a better place.

Agreed. As far as His existence is concerned as this article states, peasants dont normally leave archeological trails.

https://www.history.com/.amp/news/was-jesus-real-historical-evidence

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« Reply #51 on: February 19, 2021, 12:50:45 AM »
Agreed. As far as His existence is concerned as this article states, peasants dont normally leave archeological trails.

https://www.history.com/.amp/news/was-jesus-real-historical-evidence

Sorry, but the track record for Christian apologists is shameful. At the moment I am disgusted when I watch debates from these apologists.

Part of the problem is that many apologists hold positions at universities and their tenure requires support for the Jesus myth.

When historicists such as Richard Carrier write about Jesus you really end up quite sceptical about any such person having existed.

The awful truth is there are few if any surviving books or documents from the first century AD. The early Christian founders also destroyed

any literature that criticised the faith. The result is we have this manufactured bullshit of monumental proportions.

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Re: Life After Death
« Reply #52 on: February 19, 2021, 12:52:32 AM »
Sorry, but the track record for Christian apologists is shameful. At the moment I am disgusted when I watch debates from these apologists.

Part of the problem is that many apologists hold positions at universities and their tenure requires support for the Jesus myth.

When historicists such as Richard Carrier write about Jesus you really end up quite sceptical about any such person having existed.

The awful truth is there are few if any surviving books or documents from the first century AD. The early Christian founders also destroyed

any literature that criticised the faith. The result is we have this manufactured bullshit of monumental proportions.


Fuck Off.

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Re: Life After Death
« Reply #53 on: February 19, 2021, 01:39:30 AM »

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Re: Life After Death
« Reply #54 on: February 19, 2021, 04:13:03 AM »
Im absolutely OBSESSED with this. I obviously have no clue if there is or if we are just worm food, or in my case after, ashes in a dog park.
I read about peoples NDE experiences but just  have no idea if they are real or not.  I would never off myself (sorry certain members), but I look forward to the end to see if anything happens.
I thought an Iron Maiden post about one of the greatest Live Albums. :D
I go to different phases, sometimes I'm 100 % sure there is Afterlife and than I'm certain its like before being born. When I heard a Podcast about exorcism by a very believable Priest,

   

don't even question the afterlife anymore but hope not to go to hell or some fucked up place.lol
There is some great shit on the Internet about afterlife..in any case we all will find out for sure, a hint would make it so much easier to make decisions in life.

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Re: Life After Death
« Reply #55 on: February 19, 2021, 04:28:54 AM »
These things have been explained by the way the brain functions.
Those things are explained by materialists who don't believe in anything else.  They refuse to look at any evidence that doesn't fit their fixed beliefs.

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« Reply #56 on: February 19, 2021, 04:57:39 AM »
Those things are explained by materialists who don't believe in anything else.  They refuse to look at any evidence that doesn't fit their fixed beliefs.

It all depends on how you define "evidence". Materialists usually don't have beliefs unless there is evidence from science or observation to support them.

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Re: Life After Death
« Reply #57 on: February 19, 2021, 05:25:12 AM »
Some 'jewish rabbis' will say there is an eternal place where souls and angels reside, no bodies only spirits
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Re: Life After Death
« Reply #58 on: February 19, 2021, 05:57:47 AM »
Those things are explained by materialists who don't believe in anything else.  They refuse to look at any evidence that doesn't fit their fixed beliefs.

Materialists go by science and logic.


Until something is explained within scientific rules, they don't believe it.
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Re: Life After Death
« Reply #59 on: February 19, 2021, 06:47:19 AM »
Sorry, but the track record for Christian apologists is shameful. At the moment I am disgusted when I watch debates from these apologists.

Part of the problem is that many apologists hold positions at universities and their tenure requires support for the Jesus myth.

When historicists such as Richard Carrier write about Jesus you really end up quite sceptical about any such person having existed.

The awful truth is there are few if any surviving books or documents from the first century AD. The early Christian founders also destroyed

any literature that criticised the faith. The result is we have this manufactured bullshit of monumental proportions.


Fair enough. Someone is always an expert that knows more than other experts

Your faith is in Jesus of Nazareth never existed because of persuasive teachings, that's no different than the self righteous religious you criticize.

It's funny that so many see the Univesity system as staunch Christian while many see it as far left.

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Re: Life After Death
« Reply #60 on: February 19, 2021, 07:27:21 AM »
Fair enough. Someone is always an expert that knows more than other experts

Your faith is in Jesus of Nazareth never existed because of persuasive teachings, that's no different than the self righteous religious you criticize.

It's funny that so many see the Univesity system as staunch Christian while many see it as far left.

If historians can't find compelling evidence that Jesus Christ existed then that is a fact and has nothing to do with anyone being persuasive.

I criticise Christianity because if Christ was fabricated the whole religion collapses as a scam. Sad but true.

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Re: Life After Death
« Reply #61 on: February 19, 2021, 07:32:46 AM »
If historians can't find compelling evidence that Jesus Christ existed then that is a fact and has nothing to do with anyone being persuasive.

I criticise Christianity because if Christ was fabricated the whole religion collapses as a scam. Sad but true.


Obviously. And it is that simple.

But you say historians can’t find compelling evidence Jesus existed I say they have. It depends on who you believe.


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Re: Life After Death
« Reply #62 on: February 19, 2021, 07:44:51 AM »
I just farted

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Re: Life After Death
« Reply #63 on: February 19, 2021, 08:56:50 AM »
Hey and another thing, most of the great men in the faith were far, far from perfect but were considered to be particularly held close by God.  Just read up on King David , this guy was literally a Getbigger before Getbig was a thing. But he himself was said to be of Gods own heart lol. You have what organizations want you to believe about faith then you have the actual account of what is written in scripture.

Waiting for Wes to confirm



I’m starting to believe that we are living in a simulation.

Matrix?

I don't think so, but I do think we could get to a 'Cold Lazarus' world eventually, and here's why:  For many years now I've had lucid dreams - where I reach a realisation that I'm dreaming, but can influence the dream and its 'direction' as such.  At that point I know everything is fake, but the level of visual detail is amazing.  I've also noted that while I can see, hear and feel things (textures, temperatures) I cannot smell or taste anything.  Once we figure out how to tap into that circuitry that already exists then we're as good as brains in jars...



I think "Jesus" was based on someone that did exist and left a very strong imprint on those he encountered.  Chances that his Palestinian drivers license read Jesus H. Christ are probably nil.  I agree about the nice story part sans the brutal crucifixion.  That being said, if more people read the actual teaching of Jesus, namely the beatitudes, the world would be a better place.

Agree - I am 100% atheist but I am also a self-aware 100% hypocrite, so I enjoy allegorical bible stories as much as the next person.  I even sprang for the Zefirelli Jesus of Nazareth TV series a couple of years ago - it's nice to see some 'innocent beards' now and again



I just farted

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Re: Life After Death
« Reply #64 on: February 19, 2021, 09:18:16 AM »
I just LOL'ed

I just watched an ep of Remington Steele!
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Re: Life After Death
« Reply #65 on: February 19, 2021, 10:12:30 AM »
It all depends on how you define "evidence". Materialists usually don't have beliefs unless there is evidence from science or observation to support them.
They absolutely have beliefs and is it pervasive in their studies.

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Re: Life After Death
« Reply #66 on: February 19, 2021, 10:32:21 AM »
Henda,

Sounds like your life has been one of many enjoyable evenings with your mates at the pub drinking pints of ale you have a penchant for, avoiding bellends and narky, cheeky, stinking cunts [except for one notable one on Getbig who sharted and stank up the entire Arnold Classic expo convention hall, on multiple occasions].

Not to mention, many enjoyable trolly rides.

My friend invited a true Englishman over to my place once. I asked him "Speaking Canadian English, do I sound like a bum to you?"

He replied "It sounds pretty common, yes."

An Englishman's way of telling me, yes, I sound like a bum.

I'm sort of curious if we spoke in person, if you'd expect me to say "I wash muhself with a rag on a stick!" [like our stinking friend does].

When you met hippo did you notice the customary obesity stink they all have which is a grotesque mixture of shit, piss and sweat rolled into one repugnant odour?

Definitely those were good times mate loved those days finishing graft on a Friday summers afternoon then getting ready and going out with mates not a care in the world the Main Street and takeaways still busy at 2am great magical days before the club and pub scene died our local nightclub was a shithole but also the greatest place on earth would give anything to relive those days

I wouldn’t think sound common I reside in northern England mate we sound common as muck far from the way plum speaking English twats sound in films

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Re: Life After Death
« Reply #67 on: February 19, 2021, 11:00:47 AM »
I just watched an ep of Remington Steele!

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Re: Life After Death
« Reply #68 on: February 19, 2021, 01:19:04 PM »
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Re: Life After Death
« Reply #69 on: February 20, 2021, 03:21:28 AM »
She had a hell of a voice.  I'll bet she was wild in the sack in the 70's and 80's.  She "dated" a lot of young guys in Hollywood.

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Re: Life After Death
« Reply #70 on: February 20, 2021, 03:39:58 AM »
when your dead your dead.

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Re: Life After Death
« Reply #71 on: February 20, 2021, 03:41:41 AM »
we are already dead, Getbig is the afterlife, have you noticed no one ever really leaves?

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Re: Life After Death
« Reply #72 on: February 20, 2021, 03:50:49 AM »
when your dead your dead.
Yes, your body dies.

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Re: Life After Death
« Reply #73 on: February 20, 2021, 03:02:25 PM »
Tbh I tend to think that we live forever (immortal)

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Re: Life After Death
« Reply #74 on: February 20, 2021, 04:45:29 PM »
when your dead your dead.


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