Romano's NOVICE steroid cycle

[powerdome]

Romano had an interview on mind pump the other day and it was quite good until he was asked about what dosage a NOVICE steroid user should start out at...

This is after mentioning that the internet is not reliable and kids are doing dangerous things to themselves.

"oh 1000mg a week of testosterone plus 3-400 mg of an anabolic"

That-is-asinine. For a first time user? Seriously? Pretty disappointing to hear a so called "guru" suggest that high an amount for your FIRST time???

Always do your research kids!

[ThisisOverload]

That's too much. Unless they are 100% dedicated to getting as big as humanly possible.

500-750mg per week is a perfect beginner cycle. Maybe add 40mg of DBol ED for the first 4-5 weeks.

Once you have some time under your belt, jumping up to 1000mg of Test with 600mg of EQ or Deca is not a bad idea. Just depends on your goals.

Just keep and eye on your BP and get blood work done.

Those doses are not that crazy at all.

[BB]

500mg test/wk + 20mg/ed Dianabol was the standard recommended beginning powerlifting or heavy track and field dose in the 70's*. By the 80's, it became 500mg - 750mg test/wk + 50mg/ed of Anadrol or Dianabol depending on which your stomach could handle. Then it became #750 - 1000mg test, plus the same oral recommendation.

By the 2000's, it became very close to what Romano's recommending, plus the orals. I'd personally go with the the 70's rec.

As much as I'd like to shit on Romano, he's being conservative there. It's pretty close to what people have considered a hardcore beginner's stack for the last 20 years or so.

Every year the boys get bigger, and the stacks get larger.

[Stephano]

500mg test/wk + 20mg/ed Dianabol was the standard recommended beginning powerlifting or heavy track and field dose in the 70's*. By the 80's, it became 500mg - 750mg test/wk + 50mg/ed of Anadrol or Dianabol depending on which your stomach could handle. Then it became #750 - 1000mg test, plus the same oral recommendation.

By the 2000's, it became very close to what Romano's recommending, plus the orals. I'd personally go with the the 70's rec.

As much as I'd like to shit on Romano, he's being conservative there. It's pretty close to what people have considered a hardcore beginner's stack for the last 20 years or so.

Every year the boys get bigger, and the stacks get larger.

20 years ago, a gram of testosterone was considered a lot, but anabolics like deca and equipoise were much more popular.  A beginner's stack, back then, would have looked like 400-500mg test + 400mg deca + an oral if you want one.

[B_MyT_2]

Romano had an interview on mind pump the other day and it was quite good until he was asked about what dosage a NOVICE steroid user should start out at...

This is after mentioning that the internet is not reliable and kids are doing dangerous things to themselves.

"oh 1000mg a week of testosterone plus 3-400 mg of an anabolic"

That-is-asinine. For a first time user? Seriously? Pretty disappointing to hear a so called "guru" suggest that high an amount for your FIRST time???

Always do your research kids!

Agree that is asinine.   My first "cycle" was a 10ML bottle of Steris Cyp spread out of 8 weeks I think....maybe 6   Probably 8, because I remember going back to the dude that sold it to me at week 5, and accusing him of selling me fake shit.  He told me it was straight from the factory as he had a hook up, and to relax.   3 weeks later and I was up 20 pounds. ,

There is no reasonable explanation for taking that much of what Romano is saying for a newbie or even after a couple years.  The most I've ever done was 750 of enanthate a week, 50-100 mgs of Anadrol dailyn (mostly 50 as it fucked with my stomach, and gave me nose bleeds), and 25mgs of either anavar or winny.  I don't have a calculator, but that's about 1300 total in my head and I was around 5 years into using.   I broke out all over, sweated all the time, like I said bloody noses out of nowhere, gained maybe 5 more pounds than a normal cycle which was just 500-750mgs of enanthate working my way up from 200 and 25mgs of DBoll/Reforvit, and that's with being on for a year vs. my normal 12 weeker as a national competitor here told me the "secret" was stayin on all the time and upping the dose.  Obviously, he had better genetics/response and could tolerate higher doses for longer periods of time.

[Tom]

CURIOUS as to what point (i.e. age) is it pointless to take ANY steroids, when not competing ever and just for size, strength and looks?...

currently in my mid 50's and taking the usual supplement store test "boosters"?....

i've thought about going the TRT route though....

Only been working out though for 6 months straight; currently on a mon heavy upper, tues heavy lower, thursday light upper, friday light lower lifting routine....

in regards to the TRT route? heard various opinions, i know of someone at the gym who gets 2 shots every month for T, not sure how much is in each shot though, pays 100 dollars for each shot or for both, not sure....HOWEVER, online, a so called expert says that is RIDICULOUS because a shot every 2 weeks (2 shots a month) means his Test levels will be like a damn yo-yo and won't do shit....

best? to get a shot or give yourself a shot EVERY DAY or at least 5 days a week each day of 5 to 10 mg of Test so your test levels are ALWAYS high, not going up and down?...

what to believe?

[ThisisOverload]

500mg test/wk + 20mg/ed Dianabol was the standard recommended beginning powerlifting or heavy track and field dose in the 70's*. By the 80's, it became 500mg - 750mg test/wk + 50mg/ed of Anadrol or Dianabol depending on which your stomach could handle. Then it became #750 - 1000mg test, plus the same oral recommendation.

By the 2000's, it became very close to what Romano's recommending, plus the orals. I'd personally go with the the 70's rec.

As much as I'd like to shit on Romano, he's being conservative there. It's pretty close to what people have considered a hardcore beginner's stack for the last 20 years or so.

Every year the boys get bigger, and the stacks get larger.

Exactly.

If people knew what these really big guys were taking they would shit themselves or just refuse to believe.

these are pretty mild cycles.

[ThisisOverload]

CURIOUS as to what point (i.e. age) is it pointless to take ANY steroids, when not competing ever and just for size, strength and looks?...

currently in my mid 50's and taking the usual supplement store test "boosters"?....

i've thought about going the TRT route though....

Only been working out though for 6 months straight; currently on a mon heavy upper, tues heavy lower, thursday light upper, friday light lower lifting routine....

in regards to the TRT route? heard various opinions, i know of someone at the gym who gets 2 shots every month for T, not sure how much is in each shot though, pays 100 dollars for each shot or for both, not sure....HOWEVER, online, a so called expert says that is RIDICULOUS because a shot every 2 weeks (2 shots a month) means his Test levels will be like a damn yo-yo and won't do shit....

best? to get a shot or give yourself a shot EVERY DAY or at least 5 days a week each day of 5 to 10 mg of Test so your test levels are ALWAYS high, not going up and down?...

what to believe?

Depends on your goals, some guys want to get huge and that requires huge amounts of AAS.

Find a good Doc who specializes in Endocrinology. Get some tests run. Everyone is a little different in how they maintain their natural test levels, but when it comes to replacement, most normal Doc's don't know much about it.

There are Docs who give 100mg of Test C every 21 days, which is pretty silly.

From my personal Endo who is a friend of mine, normal TRT ranges from 75-150mg of Test C shot every 7-10 days. Some people are given up to 200mg, but that is extremely rare.

No need to shoot every day, that's why Doc use longer esters like E or C. The half-life is around 14 days, so shooting every 7 days is perfect IMO.

TRT can be covered under most insurance plans, but not all. It has to be approved by a Doc and not seen as cosmetic.

Once you hit 50 there is very little chance your T levels are in the normal range, but some men have normal levels up until their 70's. But that is very rare. Taking TRT isn't going to make you gain much muscle, but it will make you have more energy and give you some strength. Most guys you see who are jacked with big muscles are taking a gram or two of anabolics a week, many much more than that.

[Primemuscle]

CURIOUS as to what point (i.e. age) is it pointless to take ANY steroids, when not competing ever and just for size, strength and looks?...

currently in my mid 50's and taking the usual supplement store test "boosters"?....

i've thought about going the TRT route though....

Only been working out though for 6 months straight; currently on a mon heavy upper, tues heavy lower, thursday light upper, friday light lower lifting routine....

in regards to the TRT route? heard various opinions, i know of someone at the gym who gets 2 shots every month for T, not sure how much is in each shot though, pays 100 dollars for each shot or for both, not sure....HOWEVER, online, a so called expert says that is RIDICULOUS because a shot every 2 weeks (2 shots a month) means his Test levels will be like a damn yo-yo and won't do shit....

best? to get a shot or give yourself a shot EVERY DAY or at least 5 days a week each day of 5 to 10 mg of Test so your test levels are ALWAYS high, not going up and down?...

what to believe?

Bodybuilders and wanna be bodybuilders make up their own dosages. It seems common thinking is if a little bit is good more is better. Maybe not better for one's health though. Guess it depends on how long someone plans to live. Abusers are subject to health problems, some very serious.

An intramuscular test shot once a week seems about right since the efficacy of testosterone cypionate is around 8 days. I've been on TRT for many years. My prescription calls for .75 ml or 150 mg a week. I upped it to 1 ml or 200 mg and that feels about right to me. When I have my test levels checked once a year the total test is usually around 700-1000.

It is much less expensive to self inject. My copay for testosterone cypionate is $20 for a 2000 mg/10 ml vial.

[Mayday]

Been on trt for 7yrs or so now.

150/wk sust i feel the best. I was doing 125/wk but found the extra bit made a much bigger difference.

I have tried 100/wk and it sucked. You can feel it is never enough.

[Henda]

Isn’t Romano that ugly little baldy bloke whose nipples look like they are melting off his chest? If so just 300mgs of test a week is enough to look far better than he does

[Van_Bilderass]

Here's Dan Duchaine's article on best first cycle. In my opinion it has aged really well, great advice, even if I might do a few tweaks.

Dick and Jane's First Steroid Cycle - by Dan Duchaine

I’ve been a "steroid guru" since 1981. I’ve published several steroid handbooks, answered countless questions, and written article after article for magazines such as Modern Bodybuilding, Muscle Media, and now Ironman. After all the time and effort I’ve spent educating bodybuilders, I’d hoped that basic steroid information had passed into "common knowledge" in the bodybuilding subculture. But, alas, a guru’s work is never done.
Long-term, hard-core bodybuilders probably know all they need to know about recreational steroid use. But these die-hards are few and far between. The bodybuilding lifestyle is centered around three things: training, eating, and acquiring anabolic drugs (mostly steroids). Bodybuilders generally put everything else in life on hold. People in the "lifestyle" live in their cars, forego education and careers, abandon marriages, mortgages, and families, give up vacations and nice clothing, everything that makes life worth living for most people. After a certain amount of time in this "lifestyle", most bodybuilders wake up and smell reality, and move onto the next phase of their life. The subculture only survives because there’s always a new generation of anxious adolescent boys to take their place. The bodybuilding ranks are continually replenished by insecure little boys who want to scare their friends (and enemies) and be a sex object for desirable women.
What is common steroid knowledge to me and the "old guard" hardcore is not at all common to people new to the subculture. Ssubculture. But, alas, a guru’s work is never done.
Long-term, hard-core bodybuilders probably know all they need to know about recreational steroid use. But these die-hards are few and far between. The bodybuilding lifestyle is centered around three things: training, eating, and acquiring anabolic drugs (mostly steroids). Bodybuilders generally put everything else in life on hold. People in the "lifestyle" live in their cars, forego education and careers, abandon marriages, mortgages, and families, give up vacations and nice clothing, everything that makes life worth living for most people. After a certain amount of time in this "lifestyle", most bodybuilders wake up and smell reality, and move onto the next phase of their life. The subculture only survives because there’s always a new generation of anxious adolescent boys to take their place. The bodybuilding ranks are continually replenished by insecure little boys who want to scare their friends (and enemies) and be a sex object for desirable women.
What is common steroid knowledge to me and the "old guard" hardcore is not at all common to people new to the subculture. So for all of you newbie bodybuilders out there, here’s a crash course in basic steroid knowledge.

Let’s assume that you guys are steroid babies-in-the-woods. The first thing to do is read a book on steroids. Choose either my twelve-year old Underground Steroid Handbook (USH), or the one of the most current (but still flawed) War Anabolic Review. Physical Enhancement with an Edge deals with steroids from Mexico, but the information can be applied to these steroids under different trade names. Either of these books will give you an overview of the types of steroids, both oral and injectable, and the most common methods of acquiring these black market and illegal drugs.
Next, you should carefully orchestrate your steroid plan of attack. I say this because your first steroid experience will be your most productive. This incredible burst of anabolism will happen once and once only. Keeping this in mind, I recommend that you use the MOST EFFECTIVE AND POTENT of all steroids for your first time: injectable testosterone.

Trust me on this one. IGNORE advice from every other expert. Do not consider synthetics, including pills like Dianabol and Anadrol 50. These choices may be appropriate at a later date, but they are not potent enough for that crucial first time. Creams, patches, analogs, precursors, and boosters are all VIRTUALLY INEFFECTIVE AT ANY DOSE OR PRICE. A three cc syringe full of oily testosterone and a 21 to 23 gauge needle are required to get the most out of your first testosterone experience.
Some scientists who obviously had too much time on their hands have developed fancy alternatives to good old-fashioned testosterone. The most popular drug of this kind is a blend of various species of testosterone called Sustanon 250. Sustanon 250 is designed for crybabies who are too delicate to inject testosterone once a week. Sustanon 250 is overpriced, only comes in one cc doses, and can cause scar tissue at the injection site. Read this now, believe me later: Sustanon 250 is NO BETTER than any other kind of testosterone, and it’s much more expensive. Two pre-loads (or ampoules) cost between $30 and $40 on the US black market. An equivalent amount of veterinary grade testosterone costs less than $10. Foreign veterinary drugs are the best buys. Don’t be surprised if the label has a picture of farm animals on it, or some unintelligible Spanish words. These drugs are JUST AS CLEAN AND POTENT.
as their American counterparts. But, hey, it’s your cash.

There are many varieties of testosterone. Testosterone suspension is just testosterone powder in water. It is very painful to inject and causes a lot of scar tissue. Testosterone propionate also causes too much pain and scarring to be used repeatedly. Testosterone enanthate and testosterone cypionate your best bets. They come in 200 mg/cc doses, and are relatively cheap.



How much should a steroid user take of testosterone each week?


How much should you inject each week? Nothing less than 600 mg of testosterone a week will do the job. Remember, the first few testosterone injections of your life will be your most productive ones. I hate to say this, but those great stories of how so-and-so gained 50 pounds of muscle in just a few weeks are often distorted. These dramatic weight gains are ONE SHOT DEALS. Your FIRST steroid encounter is, perhaps, the ONLY ONE that will give you significant gains. DON’T fart those gains away with chicken-**** dosages or with some girlie, weak-assed steroid. If you are a male, and you want to use testosterone to get big and strong, then jam 600 to 1000 mg of either testosterone enanthate or cypionate once a week. The USH II will give you the step-by-steps on needles, but the short version is that you want a three cc syringe, with a needle at least one inch long, either 22 or 23 gauge. Inject all the testosterone that you are going to use for the week at the same time. If you using 600 mg of testosterone enanthate or cypionate, this is the full three cc oil.

Before we discuss how many weeks to use the testosterone, you should have an idea of why you will eventually have to stop injecting testosterone and give your body a break. The whole idea of using steroids in the first place is to get more testosterone to the steroid receptors in the muscles. But your body is smarter than you are. After a while, it figures out that you are messing with the natural order of things.

Your body has many ways to try to set things back to "normal". Steroids only work when they are free to interact with the steroid receptor, so the body will try to keep the steroids inactive by keeping them bound in a passive state. Passive testosterone in the blood works just about as well as passive training in the gym.

Some steroids will also convert to dihydrotestosterone by means of 5-alpha-reductase. Dihydrotestosterone is much less anabolic and much more androgenic than testosterone. (Other steroids, fortunately, convert to dihydronandrolone, which is much less androgenic. And a few are totally unaffected by 5-alpha-reductase.)

Steroids also convert to estrogen, especially in older or fatter individuals. Estrogen elevation can do some nasty things to men, including female pattern fat deposition, fluid retention, "bitch tits", and down-regulation of natural testosterone production. By the way, certain steroids that do not convert to estrogen can cause female characteristics by binding to the estrogen receptor. Others can cause progesterone-like activity at the progesterone receptor. Checque Drops, for example, have an 80 percent progesterone-like action, while Deca Durabolin has 20 percent!

All of these steroid transformations and cross-reactions show "biochemical individuality", meaning that they vary amongst individuals. Many steroid users drive themselves crazy with schemes to foil the body’s enzyme systems. They carefully plot their usage of accessory drugs like Nolvadex, Arimadex, Propecia, Aldactone, RU 486, and so on. Usually people like this are classic NON-RESPONDERS. They just don’t respond with a great degree of anabolism to any amount of testosterone and they waste lots of time and money in the hopes of banishing testosterone’s conversion to female hormones. Let me tell you from the outset that high estrogen and/or progesterone levels have never limited anyone’s growth. I wish I could bitch slap all of the crybabies in the QFAC chat room who keep telling me that they just can’t grow because high estrogen levels are making their nipples so puffy.

Whew, I need a break. In the next installment, we’ll discuss how to set up a schedule of weekly testosterone injections, and what happens (and stops happening) when you take a break from steroids.

[gib]

500mg test/wk + 20mg/ed Dianabol was the standard recommended beginning powerlifting or heavy track and field dose in the 70's*.

Not a bad starter dosage. I would actually consider tweaking it with 250Mg test a week, combined with 40-mg dbol a day. And then after 6-8 weeks, maintain the test to cruise but drop the dbol 4 weeks, then adding it again. keeping the test 250 as a base.

But yeah, either way, these should produce good results for a first time user.

[B_MyT_2]

CURIOUS as to what point (i.e. age) is it pointless to take ANY steroids, when not competing ever and just for size, strength and looks?...

currently in my mid 50's and taking the usual supplement store test "boosters"?....

i've thought about going the TRT route though....

Only been working out though for 6 months straight; currently on a mon heavy upper, tues heavy lower, thursday light upper, friday light lower lifting routine....

in regards to the TRT route? heard various opinions, i know of someone at the gym who gets 2 shots every month for T, not sure how much is in each shot though, pays 100 dollars for each shot or for both, not sure....HOWEVER, online, a so called expert says that is RIDICULOUS because a shot every 2 weeks (2 shots a month) means his Test levels will be like a damn yo-yo and won't do shit....

best? to get a shot or give yourself a shot EVERY DAY or at least 5 days a week each day of 5 to 10 mg of Test so your test levels are ALWAYS high, not going up and down?...

what to believe?

Tribulus is the only "test booster" I believe in, and I don't really think it boosts test as my blood work comes back the same while I'm on TRT.  I'm on  300mg's of enanthate every Friday which puts me jusst undder 1300 when I get my blood work done.  My doc is uncomfortable with that level, but when I told him what i used to take, and brought in spreadsheets showing that there were over 14 improvements in my labs, he was like I guess you know what you're talking about and were right.  FYI, 90 days (4 Five ML bottlle cost me $96-$126 depending on when I get them at Walmart.)  Sometimes my insurance has a better price, and sometimes GoodRx has a better price code.  I don't understand how that dynamic works, but Walmart's pharmacists have always been super friendly and willing to check both so that I would get the best price.  I have a lot of scar tissue in my ass cheeks from using illegally when I was young so I go to the Dr. and get shoulder shots for 6 months, and then do three months on my own in my cheeks.  So for 6 months it costs me around $120 for the shots and $200 for the testosterone.  Whatever "test booster" you take likely costs the same or more, and doesn't work anywhere near as well.  Like I said, I added in Trib (and horny goat weed) after I started TRT, and it did nothing to my test levels on my blood work.  I am hornier with them though, and shoot incredible loads on chicks faces while on it too, which oddly enough they love.   When just on test my loads are tiny.  Hope all that helps you to decide what route to take,

[Van_Bilderass]

Regarding daily shots, it's becoming somewhat popular with some HRT practitioners. They usually pop it subq in the stomach. They claim higher T values, less estrogen conversion, more stability etc.

I have some loaded up, "enhanced TRT", 25mg Test E, 10mg Trestolone, 5mg Tren A, 10mg Mast P 
Easy painless shot subq, low total amount of hormone, high libido, great mood.

[joswift]

my first cycle was 16 mgs a day of winstrol
gained 20lbs in 10 weeks
dropped 15lbs of it when I came off

[Tom]

PRIME MUSCLE AND THISISOVERLOAD:... THANKS for your advice, experience and expertise on this matter..

i know last year i went to a new doctor for a check-up and when i asked him about TRT, testosterone and a prescription for it, he looked at me like i had 3 heads!... point blank asked me "do you have problems with getting a erection?" when i said NO, he said that you don't need it...

i told him it was for building my body, wanting more energy and health and once again he said "you don't need and we don't prescribe that here (the hospital)....

I KNOW there are plenty of men "vitality" clinics near me, i believe they charge 100 dollars for a "test test"... i suspect though that if anyone comes to them no matter what they'll AUTOMATICALLY say your test is very low, you need to be on TRT asap and so on and so on...

basically trying to scam you/me?... i guess though i won't know unless i go...i do also have some concern that TRT still has allegedly health issues, not including you have to stay on it forever?.....

add as well that i've only been working out hard for 6 months or so, so maybe i should wait then again, at my age, i don't have all the time to wait! lol!...

[Henda]

PRIME MUSCLE AND THISISOVERLOAD:... THANKS for your advice, experience and expertise on this matter..

i know last year i went to a new doctor for a check-up and when i asked him about TRT, testosterone and a prescription for it, he looked at me like i had 3 heads!... point blank asked me "do you have problems with getting a erection?" when i said NO, he said that you don't need it...

i told him it was for building my body, wanting more energy and health and once again he said "you don't need and we don't prescribe that here (the hospital)....

I KNOW there are plenty of men "vitality" clinics near me, i believe they charge 100 dollars for a "test test"... i suspect though that if anyone comes to them no matter what they'll AUTOMATICALLY say your test is very low, you need to be on TRT asap and so on and so on...

basically trying to scam you/me?... i guess though i won't know unless i go...i do also have some concern that TRT still has allegedly health issues, not including you have to stay on it forever?.....

add as well that i've only been working out hard for 6 months or so, so maybe i should wait then again, at my age, i don't have all the time to wait! lol!...

There are places online you can pay for a blood test to check these out mate not sure where you are but we have a few here in uk it’s not expensive, a 10ml vial of test 250 is 20 quid here fuck paying 100 a shot

[Van_Bilderass]

I KNOW there are plenty of men "vitality" clinics near me, i believe they charge 100 dollars for a "test test"... i suspect though that if anyone comes to them no matter what they'll AUTOMATICALLY say your test is very low, you need to be on TRT asap and so on and so on...

basically trying to scam you/me?... i guess though i won't know unless i go...i do also have some concern that TRT still has allegedly health issues, not including you have to stay on it forever?.....

add as well that i've only been working out hard for 6 months or so, so maybe i should wait then again, at my age, i don't have all the time to wait! lol!...

Most likely you have "normal" T levels. Now is it "optimal"?
Depends on what you value in life. There are sone potential problems with HRT like high hematocrit, high blood pressure, libido fluctuations etc. If you are a hypochondriac then you are more likely to experience negative effects. Many who seek out HRT have psychological issues as their main problem and are hypochondriacs and playing with hormones can affect you mentally, positively and sometimes negatively.

There is no exact T level a 55 year old man should have, as long as it falls within the reference ranges. Some feel great with T levels at the lower end and some feel like shit yet have comparatively high T. There is more to testosterone action than testosterone level. Some are more sensitive to it and don't "need" much.

[balzac]

lol...

[tatoo]

my first cycle was 16 mgs a day of winstrol
gained 20lbs in 10 weeks
dropped 15lbs of it when I came off

mine was 5mg dbol....

[Taffin]

Tribulus is the only "test booster" I believe in, and I don't really think it boosts test as my blood work comes back the same while I'm on TRT.  I'm on  300mg's of enanthate every Friday which puts me jusst undder 1300 when I get my blood work done.  My doc is uncomfortable with that level, but when I told him what i used to take, and brought in spreadsheets showing that there were over 14 improvements in my labs, he was like I guess you know what you're talking about and were right.  FYI, 90 days (4 Five ML bottlle cost me $96-$126 depending on when I get them at Walmart.)  Sometimes my insurance has a better price, and sometimes GoodRx has a better price code.  I don't understand how that dynamic works, but Walmart's pharmacists have always been super friendly and willing to check both so that I would get the best price.  I have a lot of scar tissue in my ass cheeks from using illegally when I was young so I go to the Dr. and get shoulder shots for 6 months, and then do three months on my own in my cheeks.  So for 6 months it costs me around $120 for the shots and $200 for the testosterone.  Whatever "test booster" you take likely costs the same or more, and doesn't work anywhere near as well.  Like I said, I added in Trib (and horny goat weed) after I started TRT, and it did nothing to my test levels on my blood work.  I am hornier with them though, and shoot incredible loads on chicks faces while on it too, which oddly enough they love.   When just on test my loads are tiny.  Hope all that helps you to decide what route to take,

There's a GetBig bylaw that says I have to repost this every time someone mentions Tribulus...

[Taffin]

Regarding daily shots, it's becoming somewhat popular with some HRT practitioners. They usually pop it subq in the stomach. They claim higher T values, less estrogen conversion, more stability etc.

I have some loaded up, "enhanced TRT", 25mg Test E, 10mg Trestolone, 5mg Tren A, 10mg Mast P 
Easy painless shot subq, low total amount of hormone, high libido, great mood.

Sweet - I've never wanted to be able to grab something out of a screen so much in my life LOL 

[joswift]

Regarding daily shots, it's becoming somewhat popular with some HRT practitioners. They usually pop it subq in the stomach. They claim higher T values, less estrogen conversion, more stability etc.

I have some loaded up, "enhanced TRT", 25mg Test E, 10mg Trestolone, 5mg Tren A, 10mg Mast P 
Easy painless shot subq, low total amount of hormone, high libido, great mood.

one a day?

For how long?

[Van_Bilderass]

one a day?

For how long?

I have to admit I don't have much of a plan, when I feel like "cruising" I do something like this for awhile. One a day or every other day works too. For replacement 10mg of Test E might be enough to put numbers at top of the range according to blood work on forums, so this is kind of like a mild cycle even though the dosages of the other compounds may seem ridiculously low.

Have you tried Trestolone? It's an interesting compound, very  potent per milligram. Just 1mg a day is enough to cause infertility for many according to studies and since it's quite androgenic reseachers think it might be a good compound to use as a male contraceptive, you wouldn't need added testosterone for physiological functions.
Bodybuilders use a few hundred mg a week and some feel it's the best steroid ever made, maybe even better than tren.
I have only played with microdoses so far.