Author Topic: Francis Ngannou (Read 7265 times)

Darren Avey · « **on:** March 28, 2021, 02:07:19 AM »

What a KO!! The new heavyweight ufc champ!!!
Is he now unbeatable?

Royalty · « **Reply #1 on:** March 28, 2021, 02:19:38 AM »

Stipe gave up too much body weight against Francis. Francis made improvements. And now Francis will be difficult to beat.

Darren Avey · « **Reply #2 on:** March 28, 2021, 02:37:37 AM »

He dont want none of Martyn Ford

oldgolds · « **Reply #3 on:** March 28, 2021, 05:14:31 AM »

I'm pretty certain that Stipe is a steroid free athlete...If he took the same drugs as Francis would the outcome be different?...Maybe...A 260 lb Stipe with more punching power might change the game.

Thin Lizzy · « **Reply #4 on:** March 28, 2021, 05:59:15 AM »

Quote from: oldgolds on March 28, 2021, 05:14:31 AM

I'm pretty certain that Stipe is a steroid free athlete...If he took the same drugs as Francis would the outcome be different?...Maybe...A 260 lb Stipe with more punching power might change the game.

Francis at 24. Doesn’t look 260:

SOMEPARTS · « **Reply #5 on:** March 28, 2021, 07:36:07 AM »

BGG or legit kigs?

Dave D · « **Reply #6 on:** March 28, 2021, 08:00:26 AM »

I love the UFC hype machine.

Everyone who wins just beat the greatest fighter ever and now that person is undefeatable! No one even questions this.

Kwon · « **Reply #7 on:** March 28, 2021, 08:03:07 AM »

Darren VS SF1900

AbrahamG · « **Reply #8 on:** March 28, 2021, 08:18:14 AM »

Quote from: oldgolds on March 28, 2021, 05:14:31 AM

I'm pretty certain that Stipe is a steroid free athlete...If he took the same drugs as Francis would the outcome be different?...Maybe...A 260 lb Stipe with more punching power might change the game.

Shut the fuck up already.

a_pupil · « **Reply #9 on:** March 28, 2021, 02:23:24 PM »

Quote from: SOMEPARTS on March 28, 2021, 07:36:07 AM

BGG or legit kigs?

Tainted jollof rice

Stipe looked underweight in there. He should have kept his distance until at least the 3rd, as ngannou is too big to keep a decent a pace without gassing.

bLuEeYes · « **Reply #10 on:** March 28, 2021, 02:36:30 PM »

Jones is getting knocked out next

Matt · « **Reply #11 on:** March 28, 2021, 02:41:57 PM »

Quote from: AbrahamG on March 28, 2021, 08:18:14 AM

Shut the fuck up already.

Hang on there, Abraham. You know I respect you. I know who you are here on the boards, and your background and knowledge, and you know I'd never get out of line with you. But unless I'm missing a beef between you and oldgolds, I sort of see his point there.

Ngannou is, IMO, a once-in-a-generation elite level freak athlete. I initially saw him as a one-trick pony with a hard punch, then as a one-trick pony with a hard punch fighting former top heavyweights and beating them because they had too many miles on them [wear and tear from years of fighting, nagging injuries, etc].

After last night, I can no longer pretend Ngannou is anything but the real deal.

But a bigger Stipe Miocic might be a harder fight. That said, a roided up Stipe is going to trade off some cardio to oxidize that muscle. That's just what muscle mass does.

But might there be some truth in the thought that Stipe is clean and Ngannou is juiced? The UFC needs a big star, and Ronda Rousey is long gone, and Conor McGregor seems to be done.

Is it possible that with the assistance of Dana White, Francis is getting around USADA testing somehow?

Stipe is 6'4" and 234-lb. Hardly an impossible physique to achieve for a 38-year-old longtime athlete. Ngannou is 263-lb and leaner, at the same height.

Is it really unreasonable to think Ngannou may be juiced, and
that he foughtt a clean Miocic last night?

AbrahamG · « **Reply #12 on:** March 28, 2021, 03:29:24 PM »

I wasn't entirely serious with the stfu comment. But honestly, who's on drugs and who isn't is tired. Stipe used to fight in the 240's. He's consciously chosen to come in lighter in his past couple fights. Francis showed he's been putting in the work. Stuffed takedowns, leg kicks, etc. Also, there's no credible reports of Francis skirting the system.

oldgolds · « **Reply #13 on:** March 28, 2021, 04:17:32 PM »

Look fool....If you can't tell by now if a guy is juiced you are incredibly dumb or naive. I can spot a juicer immediately, especially a guy like Francis N.
In Stipe's case I'm 95% sure he's natural. If you don't think roids are an advantage in MMA then you are as I said, a fool, or dishonest.

SOMEPARTS · « **Reply #14 on:** March 28, 2021, 04:39:46 PM »

Quote from: a_pupil on March 28, 2021, 02:23:24 PM

Tainted jollof rice

Stipe looked underweight in there. He should have kept his distance until at least the 3rd, as ngannou is too big to keep a decent a pace without gassing.

Stipe did look a bit stringy. The obvious way to try and win against a huge guy is gas him but the whole getting KTFO in the process is a deal breaker.

Would love to see Jones take a beating.

chaos · « **Reply #15 on:** March 28, 2021, 04:42:38 PM »

Don't they need a tie breaker rematch?

Bevo · « **Reply #16 on:** March 28, 2021, 05:18:54 PM »

Quote from: Matt on March 28, 2021, 02:41:57 PM

Hang on there, Abraham. You know I respect you. I know who you are here on the boards, and your background and knowledge, and you know I'd never get out of line with you. But unless I'm missing a beef between you and oldgolds, I sort of see his point there.

Ngannou is, IMO, a once-in-a-generation elite level freak athlete. I initially saw him as a one-trick pony with a hard punch, then as a one-trick pony with a hard punch fighting former top heavyweights and beating them because they had too many miles on them [wear and tear from years of fighting, nagging injuries, etc].

After last night, I can no longer pretend Ngannou is anything but the real deal.

But a bigger Stipe Miocic might be a harder fight. That said, a roided up Stipe is going to trade off some cardio to oxidize that muscle. That's just what muscle mass does.

But might there be some truth in the thought that Stipe is clean and Ngannou is juiced? The UFC needs a big star, and Ronda Rousey is long gone, and Conor McGregor seems to be done.

Is it possible that with the assistance of Dana White, Francis is getting around USADA testing somehow?

Stipe is 6'4" and 234-lb. Hardly an impossible physique to achieve for a 38-year-old longtime athlete. Ngannou is 263-lb and leaner, at the same height.

Is it really unreasonable to think Ngannou may be juiced, and
that he foughtt a clean Miocic last night?

Every other athlete is a once in a generation athlete these days. That term gets thrown around only second to the stupid overhyped phrase “GOAT”

oldtimer1 · « **Reply #17 on:** March 28, 2021, 05:42:09 PM »

Incredible athlete. Catch the Rogan interview of him on his podcast. If that doesn't effect your heart you don't have one. The guy truly came from poverty and did manual labor with a shovel all day.

pamith · « **Reply #18 on:** March 28, 2021, 05:44:55 PM »

This is a big disgrace

Les Grossman · « **Reply #19 on:** March 28, 2021, 07:18:40 PM »

Quote from: Matt on March 28, 2021, 02:41:57 PM

Hang on there, Abraham. You know I respect you. I know who you are here on the boards, and your background and knowledge, and you know I'd never get out of line with you. But unless I'm missing a beef between you and oldgolds, I sort of see his point there.

Ngannou is, IMO, a once-in-a-generation elite level freak athlete. I initially saw him as a one-trick pony with a hard punch, then as a one-trick pony with a hard punch fighting former top heavyweights and beating them because they had too many miles on them [wear and tear from years of fighting, nagging injuries, etc].

After last night, I can no longer pretend Ngannou is anything but the real deal.

But a bigger Stipe Miocic might be a harder fight. That said, a roided up Stipe is going to trade off some cardio to oxidize that muscle. That's just what muscle mass does.

But might there be some truth in the thought that Stipe is clean and Ngannou is juiced? The UFC needs a big star, and Ronda Rousey is long gone, and Conor McGregor seems to be done.

Is it possible that with the assistance of Dana White, Francis is getting around USADA testing somehow?

Stipe is 6'4" and 234-lb. Hardly an impossible physique to achieve for a 38-year-old longtime athlete. Ngannou is 263-lb and leaner, at the same height.

Is it really unreasonable to think Ngannou may be juiced, and
that he foughtt a clean Miocic last night?

Once in a generation?

Juiced Overreem would absolutely shitkick juiced Ngannou like a redheaded step child.

keanu · « **Reply #20 on:** March 28, 2021, 08:46:47 PM »

Quote from: Les Grossman on March 28, 2021, 07:18:40 PM

Once in a generation?

Juiced Overreem would absolutely shitkick juiced Ngannou like a redheaded step child.

Overeem isn't the juice bag he used to be but his chin has always been suspect. Francis beat him so easily.

keanu · « **Reply #21 on:** March 28, 2021, 08:55:19 PM »

To beat Francis you need to take him down or tire him out. Currently there isn't anyone that can do this, but wait a couple of years. Everyone has their kryptonite.

Dave D · « **Reply #22 on:** March 28, 2021, 09:21:44 PM »

Quote from: keanu on March 28, 2021, 08:55:19 PM

To beat Francis you need to take him down or tire him out. Currently there isn't anyone that can do this, but wait a couple of years. Everyone has their kryptonite.

A couple years? Isn’t he in his late 30s? He’s fighting the hands of time at this stage.

I watched an interview with Mark Coleman and he made a comment about today’s heavyweights don’t want to go to the ground, that there’s not enough wrestling and so on. I thought he was off base but looking at current state of HW maybe his point was valid.

Les Grossman · « **Reply #23 on:** March 28, 2021, 09:30:24 PM »

Quote from: keanu on March 28, 2021, 08:46:47 PM

Overeem isn't the juice bag he used to be but his chin has always been suspect. Francis beat him so easily.

In their prime vs prime.

(Prime = Peak of their career, not the disgusting old phaggot)

Kwon · « **Reply #24 on:** March 28, 2021, 09:53:09 PM »

Prime Juiced Ubereem would show Francis a thing or two!