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Re: Ron's tough interview with Wayne DeMilia
« Reply #100 on: April 22, 2006, 10:06:48 AM »
Ron, you are completely offbase and that interview was a joke. I AM a fan. The kind of fan the IFBB makes money off. I buy supplements every month, I go to the Arnold Classic every year. I pick up the occasional Weider mag. I think pro-bbing is becoming a joke and I wanted to hear what this guy's vision of the PDI was. I don't give a damn about you saying he has no validity 15 times out of 30 questions or generalizing and saying the getbig board thinks he is delusional. From an honest fan of the sport that interview was horseshit from an IFBB company man. You barely asked any questions that true fan of the sport wants to hear, not IFBB nut-huggers.
Hope you can take a little honesty.
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Re: Ron's tough interview with Wayne DeMilia
« Reply #101 on: April 22, 2006, 10:28:39 AM »
yes, but if there was an option that read 'Click here for XP visual format'- to match what we've all had 20 years of training in, and it cost less, people would buy it.  But as long as the learning curve is too steep and software is incompatiable and people have to change the way they work, it won't happen.

Actually that does exist on Linux - i.e. it's FREE - and there are a TON of free versions that work exactly like windows. AND, unlike OSX, it works on Intel - so you can use it for free on your windows-compatible computer.
For example, KDE:


And even better: it's skinable, so you could make it look EXACTLY like XP if you wanted.

Also you can use Open Office to replace MS Office and it's 100% compatible with all the MS Office products. Yet how many "regular" people will use either Open Office or any of the Linux OS's?

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Re: Ron's tough interview with Wayne DeMilia
« Reply #102 on: April 22, 2006, 10:28:51 AM »
Well, I apologize for making that assumption.  Why the strong public rebuke for the PDI though, when it'll mean more opportunity for work, for a free agent like you?  And aren't you nervous that your bashing now will mean you might get passed over for a lesser/equal photog later who hasn't publicly doubted Wayne?

Apology accepted  :o
If people didn't have different opinions these forums would be extremely boring so at least my doubts over the PDI have made for some interesting debate and have even allowed "onlyme" to wield his linguistic magic wand and throw out insults as only a man of his intelligence is capable ::)
I've doubted the validity of the PDI because of previous history. It was tried a couple of years back and it failed.
Rather than just accept the information released as fact I chose to question it. Anything wrong in that?
The success of the PDI or any other organisation will have no effect on my workload because as I said previously, I'm scaling things down.
I spoke with Wayne recently and he thought my posts on here were helping to promote things 8)
He also advised me not to take up any lunch bets over the NY show because it would be going ahead and I'd lose. Problem is I just don't believe him ;D
So I'm leaving myself out to be hung drawn and quartered over this if I'm wrong!

I'm not against anyone getting involved in this business, and if they can make it grow to the point where the athletes - male and female - can earn substantially more that would be fantastic. I just doubt the PDI will do it.

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Re: Ron's tough interview with Wayne DeMilia
« Reply #103 on: April 22, 2006, 10:38:48 AM »
"Actually that does exist on Linux - i.e. it's FREE - and there are a TON of free versions that work exactly like windows. AND, unlike OSX, it works on Intel - so you can use it for free on your windows-compatible computer.
For example, KDE:"

True.  But 99% of people just aren't motivated enough to do it, cause Linux hasn't given them enough of a financial incentive or made it easy/quick enough to fit into their day.  Hell, I have my MS certs, comptia, etc, and I still prefer fixing an MS box over a linux or mac box, since there are more resources, smaller learning curve (I do have to teach this new person the redhat nuances0 etc, and for me, it's not worth it.  Linux needs to fix that, or just keep working to solidity/grow their server presence over an overpriced server2k3.

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Re: Ron's tough interview with Wayne DeMilia
« Reply #104 on: April 22, 2006, 10:57:22 AM »
Actually if you think about it whether someone is slamming the dipshits who run the ifbb or the dipshits who run the pdi well they are talking about the same people regardless as the same people have been running bodybuilding forever.

that being said whather you like a person or not doesnt change the fact that its just business and if if Mr demelia can get things done better then the other guys then thats just tough titties.

Bottom lines competition is good for everyone and whether it happens today tommrorow or next 5 years this whole industry will be going thru a totoal overhaul, whether current powers that be like it or not, and that includes any old powers that be trying to get back into the game.

There is just too much of a global economy and community for that matter to assume that things will stay the same.

Interesting times ahead indeed

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Re: Ron's tough interview with Wayne DeMilia
« Reply #105 on: April 22, 2006, 11:05:03 AM »
The gloves come off...

1)   If the PDI turns out to be the success you envision it to be, will you approach the IFBB about letting all professional athletes have the freedom to compete where they choose, or has a line been drawn in the sand that the IFBB has to cross to meet with you.

2)   Shawn Ray mentioned a story about how Wayne was responsible for his suspension and since he was a Weider athlete the decision had to come from Wayne.  I would really like to hear Wayne’s comments and hopefully add some clarity to this as so far we have only heard one side.

3)   The PDI has eight official press releases, any comments to the people all over the internet who post the “Insider information”, most of which appears to pure conjecture and seems to breed more negative comments towards the PDI.  Wayne used Kevin Horton as an example but Kevin only responded to the numerous posts and comments already brought out by the Insiders.  (I bring this one up because it was these types of exact actions that turned me off of the PDI.)

4)   Quote from Wayne; Well - the guy that wins the Nabba Universe does not qualify for an IFBB pro card. If that guy is English, then he has to go back into the amateur ranks, and qualify in a local show, qualify for the British Championships, win the British Championships, or win the World Championships, and so on.  Would this not mean that the “cream of the crop” would be on the IFBB stages?  Does Wayne have anything to say about the PDI being labeled as the minor leagues of bodybuilding?

5)   Wayne commented about how he was the most prominent promoter in the history of the IFBB, now he is commenting about all the problems within the sport and how it is dying.  This didn’t happen over night nor did it happen in the time since he left the IFBB, does he feel that he was held back by the Weiders / Manion from making changes or does he feel like he has to take a share of the blame for the state that bodybuilding is in today?

6)   The Sports act of 1978, is it not an act based in the American judicial system only?  Are there any protections (if needed) for athletes not on American soil?

7)   I would love to hear Wayne’s reasoning on bringing in Jim Goad who has a history of not paying his prize commitments.  It has been posted that Wayne is going to ensure that Jim Goad past commitments must be paid, any truth to this or is this an IFBB problem?


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Re: Ron's tough interview with Wayne DeMilia
« Reply #106 on: April 22, 2006, 11:06:26 AM »
1) Awesome questions
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Re: Ron's tough interview with Wayne DeMilia
« Reply #107 on: April 22, 2006, 11:24:42 AM »
I like the interview.

And Avidan is doing a good job of giving an honest look into what PDI is, who Wayne DeMilia is, and what will happen.

You don't get these kinds of interviews in bodybuilding mags usually. It's usually brown nosing and BS through and through.

Good job by Ron.

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Re: Ron's tough interview with Wayne DeMilia
« Reply #108 on: April 22, 2006, 11:44:49 AM »
The gloves come off...

1)   If the PDI turns out to be the success you envision it to be, will you approach the IFBB about letting all professional athletes have the freedom to compete where they choose, or has a line been drawn in the sand that the IFBB has to cross to meet with you.  I think Wayne has already said they can.  It is the IFBB who won't let the athletes compete in both.

2)   Shawn Ray mentioned a story about how Wayne was responsible for his suspension and since he was a Weider athlete the decision had to come from Wayne.  I would really like to hear Wayne’s comments and hopefully add some clarity to this as so far we have only heard one side.  He was suspended and for failing a drug test which was implemented by Weider.  Weider told Wayne to advise Shawn of the diciplinary action.  Wayne was the messenger of the bad news.  Of curse Shawn is going to blame Wayne.  Wayne was the mouth for Weider cause Weider has never had the balls to do things like this himself.  Just like the experince I had with Weider (Joe).  I have talked to Wayne about this.  Wayne basically told me that Shawn had failed the drug test (I think he said direutics) and thus had to be disicplined.  Shawn is a known cry-baby and of course he is going to complain and make it sound like he was done wrong.

3)   The PDI has eight official press releases, any comments to the people all over the internet who post the “Insider information”, most of which appears to pure conjecture and seems to breed more negative comments towards the PDI.  Wayne used Kevin Horton as an example but Kevin only responded to the numerous posts and comments already brought out by the Insiders.  (I bring this one up because it was these types of exact actions that turned me off of the PDI.)  Wayne talks to Kevin, but I am pretty sure I talk to Wayne allot more and am told allot of things Kevin is not cause Wayne knows he can trust me and that I am supporting him.  Kevin has openly bashed PDI and Wayne.  Wayne is not dumb enough to tell Kevin certain things that he tells me and stays comfortable with.

4)   Quote from Wayne; Well - the guy that wins the Nabba Universe does not qualify for an IFBB pro card. If that guy is English, then he has to go back into the amateur ranks, and qualify in a local show, qualify for the British Championships, win the British Championships, or win the World Championships, and so on.  Would this not mean that the “cream of the crop” would be on the IFBB stages?  Does Wayne have anything to say about the PDI being labeled as the minor leagues of bodybuilding?  I don't know about the minor leagues.  I would equate it to the AFL and NFL or the NBA and ABA.  They once competed against each other then came together as one big entity.  The co-exsisted for awhile then became one.  I see that happening here but the PDI will conquer simply because of Waynes experience and AMI's inexperience.

5)   Wayne commented about how he was the most prominent promoter in the history of the IFBB, now he is commenting about all the problems within the sport and how it is dying.  This didn’t happen over night nor did it happen in the time since he left the IFBB, does he feel that he was held back by the Weiders / Manion from making changes or does he feel like he has to take a share of the blame for the state that bodybuilding is in today?  I am sure he would say he takes part of the blame cause as the President he did allow it to happen.  But, in the same instance he had to answer to his superiors.  If not he would be out of a job and out of someothing he really enjoys.  So he had to do what he had to do.  Just like when a boss tell an employee to do something he may not agree with.  You still do it or you are gone.  Well after doing things this way for so long Wayne got feed up with it and left.  He refused to keep doing things he didn't believe in.  Now he is the boss and he can start doing things the way he wanted to so that BB can be fun again and exciting.  He doesn't have to listen anyone but himself.

6)   The Sports act of 1978, is it not an act based in the American judicial system only?  Are there any protections (if needed) for athletes not on American soil?  I have no idea

7)   I would love to hear Wayne’s reasoning on bringing in Jim Goad who has a history of not paying his prize commitments.  It has been posted that Wayne is going to ensure that Jim Goad past commitments must be paid, any truth to this or is this an IFBB problem?  I have no idea about this either but i do have a guess.  I think Wayne may feel a little repsonsible for what happened.  I think he sees a chance to help correct what happened.  He has stated that all the proceeds from the amateur show will be used to pay the people who didn't get paid from the show before.  And I bet if the show is really successful that every bill will be paid if full.  This will not only rectify the past debt but it will give the PDI a huge shot in the arm for being responsible and the promoter an even bigger shot.  He could killed two birds with one stone.

I am not answering for Wayne at all with these answers.  But I have discussed some of thse with Wayne and from my memory this is how I would have explained them.  

Also, Wayne is a very open person.  As I am too.  I am so easily accessible as is Wayne.  You can call Wayne on his phone anytime or email him.  Heloves to be able to set the stories straight.  An the other hand have any of you on a regualr basis tried to talked or reach Manion or Weiders.  Sorry it doesn't happen.  You can leave dozens of messages and never even get an answer back.  Or you will talk to the secretary or assistant but never the leader.  This isa red flag right away for shady dealings.  People like this hide behind others cause deep down they know they are fucking with people and do not want to have to explain (or can't) their actions.  That is a huge reason why I support Wayne.  He is not afraid to answer questions or be up front when their is controversy.  You will NOT get that from the others.

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Re: Ron's tough interview with Wayne DeMilia
« Reply #109 on: April 22, 2006, 12:03:34 PM »
Great interview. It was straight out. No beating about the bush, no crap or fluff. I gave me more insight as to who the PDI wants to be. The question is if they will make it. Too hard on Wayne, yes, a little, but if you weren't, then people would be calling you a kiss ass for the PDI. You can never win.

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Re: Ron's tough interview with Wayne DeMilia
« Reply #110 on: April 22, 2006, 12:36:26 PM »
Apology accepted  :o
If people didn't have different opinions these forums would be extremely boring so at least my doubts over the PDI have made for some interesting debate and have even allowed "onlyme" to wield his linguistic magic wand and throw out insults as only a man of his intelligence is capable ::)
I've doubted the validity of the PDI because of previous history. It was tried a couple of years back and it failed.
Rather than just accept the information released as fact I chose to question it. Anything wrong in that?
The success of the PDI or any other organisation will have no effect on my workload because as I said previously, I'm scaling things down.
I spoke with Wayne recently and he thought my posts on here were helping to promote things 8)
He also advised me not to take up any lunch bets over the NY show because it would be going ahead and I'd lose. Problem is I just don't believe him ;D
So I'm leaving myself out to be hung drawn and quartered over this if I'm wrong!

I'm not against anyone getting involved in this business, and if they can make it grow to the point where the athletes - male and female - can earn substantially more that would be fantastic. I just doubt the PDI will do it.
some of ya might like to be hung, drawn and quatered

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Re: Ron's tough interview with Wayne DeMilia
« Reply #111 on: April 22, 2006, 01:36:52 PM »
Then let it fail.  Why give it all this free press?


Twisted logic.
If no one questioned it, the threads would die quickly. Then people would accuse others of not discussing it out of fear of retribution from the powers that be. :o

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Re: Ron's tough interview with Wayne DeMilia
« Reply #112 on: April 22, 2006, 02:02:21 PM »
kmhphoto...I was just watching battle for the O and I saw you.

Please forgive me, but you did not look like what I expected. Somehow I had subconsciously envisioned you as an old man with mad scientist hair or something. My apologies for this, as you are quite okay looking.

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Re: Ron's tough interview with Wayne DeMilia
« Reply #113 on: April 22, 2006, 02:38:57 PM »
Well I gotta tell you Ron I like you allot but you are a horrible interviewer.  Now on your behalf I am pretty sure some in fact most of these questions were given to you by either Chic, Manion or someone else at the IFBB.  That interview is nothing different than if Manion himself gave it.  Can you be anymore negative and biased.  Please do not say again you are not biased.  Wayne answered those questions perfectly.  Given away to many answers is just plain stupid.  Anyone coming out with a new product or service would tell you the same thing.  And the funniest part was when you ask him how to improve the Arnold or Olympia.  That right there is a giveaway someone else wrote those questions. 

And you and others who keep harping on not having a website is just hilarious.  First off, he is having one made.  Second, it is going to be a very good website in design and functionality.  Lets pretend he was dumb like you and others who think he should have a website up already.  Well it's not up so should he wait till it's done to announce the PDI and everything whats going on.  That is stupid.  So why not use the boards and magazines to promote PDI while the site is being developed.  Anyone mentioning there is no website for the PDI so it must be fake or not serious rank up there with the most ignorant.  Also, instead of ragging on a site not built yet, rag on the IFBB's website which is perhaps one of the worst and defnitely the most unprofessional and ugly sites on the internet.  Now that is embarrasing.

People rag on me for being so negative about the IFBB, NPC, Manion and the Weiders.  I have a reason and I am very far from being alone.  There are many reasons and they keep getting bigger and bigger so ragging on these is substantiated.  But, ragging on the PDI is unjustified.  They haven't done anything yet.

I understand you are a IFBB, NPC man and when the PDI starts making it, it will dent your exclusivity with these, but you need to realize the PDI is here and it will make a big difference in BB.  All for the positive.  So you might as well hang on and grab on as soon as you can.

And it was really funny you trying to find out major sponsors names.  That was very funny too. 
Most of you probably never heard of me...but I've been around....just on the women's side of things....and while I'm not much up on the guy's side of things I will say this. Wayne has the experience and the knowledge to pull this off. I'm a bit upset that the women have not yet been included into the mix...but I do understand his logic. He want's to get the men's side up and running first. The encouraging part is that he told me that although the women are not yet included...things do change....

That being said, I think that some of you that do know who I am will say that I've ALWAYS been on the side of the ATHLETE. I'm for any possitive and meaningful changes that will better this sport relative to the athlete's AND fans perspective...The nay sayers AND everyone else can speculate all they want...and in truth...we WILL have to just wait and see....but I don't think anyone should simply dismiss the PDI as a non entity....or the athletes that they've currently signed....and NEVER....NEVER underestimate anyone with vision and passion as their drivers...

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Re: Ron's tough interview with Wayne DeMilia
« Reply #114 on: April 22, 2006, 02:48:47 PM »
Apology accepted  :o
If people didn't have different opinions these forums would be extremely boring so at least my doubts over the PDI have made for some interesting debate and have even allowed "onlyme" to wield his linguistic magic wand and throw out insults as only a man of his intelligence is capable ::)
I've doubted the validity of the PDI because of previous history. It was tried a couple of years back and it failed.
Rather than just accept the information released as fact I chose to question it. Anything wrong in that?
The success of the PDI or any other organisation will have no effect on my workload because as I said previously, I'm scaling things down.
I spoke with Wayne recently and he thought my posts on here were helping to promote things 8)
He also advised me not to take up any lunch bets over the NY show because it would be going ahead and I'd lose. Problem is I just don't believe him ;D
So I'm leaving myself out to be hung drawn and quartered over this if I'm wrong!

I'm not against anyone getting involved in this business, and if they can make it grow to the point where the athletes - male and female - can earn substantially more that would be fantastic. I just doubt the PDI will do it.
Kevin...in all honesty...was it really tried a few yrs back?...are you talking about the McMahon debacle? (WWF/WBF) I'll give you this...McMahon has the deep pockets....BUT DeMilia has the experience and the track record. Given the choice...I'd take the latter...also....did you get a chance to bitch at anyone about the lighting at the Arnold?...lol....I mean I guess you could have just leaned forward and tapped M or W on the shoulder and bitched...but it would have probably fallen on deaf ears...lol...cheers dude:}

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Re: Ron's tough interview with Wayne DeMilia
« Reply #115 on: April 22, 2006, 03:00:08 PM »
The gloves come off...

1)   If the PDI turns out to be the success you envision it to be, will you approach the IFBB about letting all professional athletes have the freedom to compete where they choose, or has a line been drawn in the sand that the IFBB has to cross to meet with you.

2)   Shawn Ray mentioned a story about how Wayne was responsible for his suspension and since he was a Weider athlete the decision had to come from Wayne.  I would really like to hear Wayne’s comments and hopefully add some clarity to this as so far we have only heard one side.

3)   The PDI has eight official press releases, any comments to the people all over the internet who post the “Insider information”, most of which appears to pure conjecture and seems to breed more negative comments towards the PDI.  Wayne used Kevin Horton as an example but Kevin only responded to the numerous posts and comments already brought out by the Insiders.  (I bring this one up because it was these types of exact actions that turned me off of the PDI.)

4)   Quote from Wayne; Well - the guy that wins the Nabba Universe does not qualify for an IFBB pro card. If that guy is English, then he has to go back into the amateur ranks, and qualify in a local show, qualify for the British Championships, win the British Championships, or win the World Championships, and so on.  Would this not mean that the “cream of the crop” would be on the IFBB stages?  Does Wayne have anything to say about the PDI being labeled as the minor leagues of bodybuilding?

5)   Wayne commented about how he was the most prominent promoter in the history of the IFBB, now he is commenting about all the problems within the sport and how it is dying.  This didn’t happen over night nor did it happen in the time since he left the IFBB, does he feel that he was held back by the Weiders / Manion from making changes or does he feel like he has to take a share of the blame for the state that bodybuilding is in today?

6)   The Sports act of 1978, is it not an act based in the American judicial system only?  Are there any protections (if needed) for athletes not on American soil?

7)   I would love to hear Wayne’s reasoning on bringing in Jim Goad who has a history of not paying his prize commitments.  It has been posted that Wayne is going to ensure that Jim Goad past commitments must be paid, any truth to this or is this an IFBB problem?


The sports act of 1978 it isn't...However......
IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE EASTERN DISTRICT OF TENNESSEE
SOUTHERN DIVISION

THE AMATUER ATHLETIC UNION
OF THE UNITED STATE, INC.,
JAMES LOWE, LEE BURNS AND
JERRY BURNS,

PLAINTIFFS

VS.

THE NATIONAL PHYSIQUE
COMMITEE OF THE U.S.A.,
INC., THE SOUTHESATERN
ASSOCIATION OF THE NATIONAL
PYSIQUES COMMITTEE FO THE
U.S.A., INC., THE SOUTHEASTERN
PHYSIQUE COMMITTEE, THE
TENNESSEE BOARD OF ADVISORS
OF THE SOUTHEASTERN PHYSIQUE
COMMITTEE, MIKE KIZER AND JAMES MANION

DEFENDANTS

CIVIL ACTION NO. 1-82-83

STIPUATION AND ORDER

IT IS HEREBY STIPULATED AND AGREED by and between the undersigned attorneys for the parties that,

WHEREAS, the plaintiffs have commenced this action against the defendants charging the defendants with violations of various federal anti-trust statues, and

WHEREAS, the defendants have counter-claimed against the plaintiffs charging the plaintiffs with violations of various anti-trust statues and seeking relief on other grounds, and

WHEREAS, the Court entered and signed its order and preliminary injunction of June 3, 1982,

NOW, THEREFORE, it is agree as follows:

1. The defendants, including the National Physique Committee of the U.S.A., Inc., The Southeastern Association of the National Physique Committee of the U.S.A, Inc., The Southeastern Physique Committee, the Tennessee Board of Advisors of the Southeastern Physique Committee, Mike Kizer and James Manion agree to continue their state policy of not imposing any sanctions upon or otherwise penalizing or punishing or threatening to impose any sanctions upon (or otherwise penalizing or interfering in any way with any persons on account of that persons' participation in any physique contest sanctioned by the Amateur Athletic Union of the United States, Inc., ("The AAU"),) whether such person participates as an athlete, a promoter, a sponsor, or otherwise and will not condone, ratify, facilitate or permit such actions by any member or affiliate of the NPC for so long as the defendants (other than the NPC) remain as members or affiliates of the NPC. The defendants will take all steps reasonably necessary to remedy any violation of their stated policy as set forth above, which violation comes to their attention.

2. Defendants further agree to email a copy of this stipulation and order to the NPC's Board of Governors and an officer of the NPC shall certify that such mailing has been accomplished within (30) days of this stipulation and order.

3. The AAU agrees to maintain its stated policy of not enforcing Section 454.10(a) of its 1982 Official code.

4. All claims for relief contained in the complaint and answer and counter-claim are withdrawn with prejudice and without cost to any party against another.

5. The preliminary injunction previously entered and signed on June 3, 1982, is hereby dissolved and the bond posted by the plaintiffs in connection with that order and the preliminary injunction is hereby exonerated.

6. This stipulation shall not be deemed an adjudication of liability against or an admission of liability by any party.

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Re: Ron's tough interview with Wayne DeMilia
« Reply #116 on: April 22, 2006, 03:24:15 PM »
The sports act of 1978 it isn't...However......


Okay 1982 sports act, hey I was only two years old then.  I had garner my information from the old ones.  I think they even had to write stuff down on paper to record it back then.   ;)

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Re: Ron's tough interview with Wayne DeMilia
« Reply #117 on: April 22, 2006, 03:41:09 PM »
Okay 1982 sports act, hey I was only two years old then.  I had garner my information from the old ones.  I think they even had to write stuff down on paper to record it back then.   ;)
no...no...I didn't mean that...there may in fact be one from 1978....I just meant that what I posted wasn't, but I felt it relevant anyway:}

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Re: Ron's tough interview with Wayne DeMilia
« Reply #118 on: April 22, 2006, 03:43:34 PM »
Okay 1982 sports act, hey I was only two years old then.  I had garner my information from the old ones.  I think they even had to write stuff down on paper to record it back then.   ;)
Actually, it was typewriter and microfisch back then...oh yeah and mimiograph (sp?)...lol

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Re: Ron's tough interview with Wayne DeMilia
« Reply #119 on: April 22, 2006, 03:51:40 PM »
Well I gotta tell you Ron I like you allot but you are a horrible interviewer.  Now on your behalf I am pretty sure some in fact most of these questions were given to you by either Chic, Manion or someone else at the IFBB.  That interview is nothing different than if Manion himself gave it.  Can you be anymore negative and biased.  Please do not say again you are not biased.  Wayne answered those questions perfectly.  Given away to many answers is just plain stupid.  Anyone coming out with a new product or service would tell you the same thing.  And the funniest part was when you ask him how to improve the Arnold or Olympia.  That right there is a giveaway someone else wrote those questions. 

And you and others who keep harping on not having a website is just hilarious.  First off, he is having one made.  Second, it is going to be a very good website in design and functionality.  Lets pretend he was dumb like you and others who think he should have a website up already.  Well it's not up so should he wait till it's done to announce the PDI and everything whats going on.  That is stupid.  So why not use the boards and magazines to promote PDI while the site is being developed.  Anyone mentioning there is no website for the PDI so it must be fake or not serious rank up there with the most ignorant.  Also, instead of ragging on a site not built yet, rag on the IFBB's website which is perhaps one of the worst and defnitely the most unprofessional and ugly sites on the internet.  Now that is embarrasing.

People rag on me for being so negative about the IFBB, NPC, Manion and the Weiders.  I have a reason and I am very far from being alone.  There are many reasons and they keep getting bigger and bigger so ragging on these is substantiated.  But, ragging on the PDI is unjustified.  They haven't done anything yet.

I understand you are a IFBB, NPC man and when the PDI starts making it, it will dent your exclusivity with these, but you need to realize the PDI is here and it will make a big difference in BB.  All for the positive.  So you might as well hang on and grab on as soon as you can.

And it was really funny you trying to find out major sponsors names.  That was very funny too. 

^When I said Ron "cracks nuts", I was being facetious.

He's pretty gentle with people.

I think his wife makes him promise to be "nice" or something...




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Re: Ron's tough interview with Wayne DeMilia
« Reply #120 on: April 22, 2006, 04:10:54 PM »
yes, but if there was an option that read 'Click here for XP visual format'- to match what we've all had 20 years of training in, and it cost less, people would buy it. 

what do you mean 20 years?  Windows 3 was different than DOS, NT was different than W-3, 2000 was slightly different, XP is slightly different, and Vista is suppose to be very different.

btw, Mac OS X 10.5 is rumored to have the Windows API built in, so application developer can just recompile their code, rather than rewriting it.

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Re: Ron's tough interview with Wayne DeMilia
« Reply #121 on: April 22, 2006, 04:23:49 PM »
Kevin...in all honesty...was it really tried a few yrs back?...are you talking about the McMahon debacle? (WWF/WBF) I'll give you this...McMahon has the deep pockets....BUT DeMilia has the experience and the track record. Given the choice...I'd take the latter...also....did you get a chance to bitch at anyone about the lighting at the Arnold?...lol....I mean I guess you could have just leaned forward and tapped M or W on the shoulder and bitched...but it would have probably fallen on deaf ears...lol...cheers dude:}

It was the 2004 Night of the Champions. Wayne had "left" the IFBB and was making noises then about his new organisation. At the show all his people wore this

http://www.getbig.com/pics/noc/2004/misc/prodivshirt.htm.

Wayne thought he would be able to take over from the IFBB. Shortly after the NOC he turned up at the Hungarian show looking for support from the European officials and expecting that show to be a PDI event. A meeting was called and he was told that they would not be backing him. So at that time, Wayne was at the height of his involvement with the sport but was unable to find the support required to continue and that was the end of the PDI.

When it was announced that it was returning I asked, What has changed? Where is the support now?

As for the lighting at shows - I'm always bitching about it!

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Re: Ron's tough interview with Wayne DeMilia
« Reply #122 on: April 22, 2006, 05:00:39 PM »
what do you mean 20 years?  Windows 3 was different than DOS, NT was different than W-3, 2000 was slightly different, XP is slightly different, and Vista is suppose to be very different.

Well, it feel slike 20 :)  But since Win95 came out, the user funcionals have remained very consistent.  That's 10+ years of familiarity that any competitor bringing a new style would have to overcome.

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Re: Ron's tough interview with Wayne DeMilia
« Reply #123 on: April 22, 2006, 05:04:23 PM »
Stop geeking up the thread.  God you would think this is the internet or something.
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Re: Ron's tough interview with Wayne DeMilia
« Reply #124 on: April 22, 2006, 07:57:33 PM »
 The mentioning of the yahoo email is once again priceless. It just screams unprofessional.

I have to dis-agree with you Lucius.

You need to understand that bodybuilding contests are NOT like the NFL, NBA, MLB.
The sport simply does NOT generate enough $$ to have staffs of people working on the events..  Therefore, you end up many times speaking directly to the promoter's of the show. You get their cell phones, or their e-mails.. 

I have spoken to Wayne Demilia Personally many times-simply because I was a VIP ticket purchaser for the Olympia for 4 years.  The guy is real & down to earth, and he WORKS his ass off to personally promote the shows. 

Just like circa 1980 when I called the phone number advertised for the Mr. Olympia contest in the Muscle Magazine, and lo & behold-Jim Lorimer answered, and was very patient with me, and answered all my questions.  TRUE- at the time, I was a little suprised that Lorimer himself answered, but I have come to understand that's the nature of the beast.

The Actual Promoter has to get down & dirty & get things done. Is this a little strange ? Compared to the NFL it may be...  But it is certainly not un-professional.

There aren't layers & layers of secretaries & administraive people just sitting around, waiting to answer the phone. That is really the beauty of the whole thing !!
You end up dealing DIRECTLY with the promoter.

In my many dealings with Wayne Demilia, he was ALWAYS gracious, accessible, fair & warm.  His word was Gold.  It was nice actually buying my tickets from Demilia himself.  He is one of the most honest & straitforward people I have ever met in my life.

RON was off base referring to Wayne as "COLD".. I doubt he ever actually dealt with Wayne directly. In fact, I am SURE he didn't know Wayne that well when Wayne was promoting the shows. I may be wrong, I would like to know If Ron actually dealt with Wayne going back 5-12 years ago, or if Ron had merely "heard" that from other people.

Wayne ran a tight ship, he had the balls to fine the athletes when they earned a fine. I remember Wayne fining Dorian $5,000 for not showing up at the post Olympia banquet one year.

BB would be a much better sport if Wayne was running some shows again..

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