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Re: I took the first dose of the vaccine...feel like shit
« Reply #200 on: April 22, 2021, 07:30:10 PM »
I rarely use that word as I find it far too common and that is born out by the fact that many black menz call almost anybody that name.  I even was greeted with it at a store parking lot by a black guy that said "Whatup mah "negroe"?  You remind me of 4 legs on South Park!".

Had to laugh as I had seen that episode.  Oh yeah, I sometimes have to use my polio crutches, hence the "Jimmy" reference!  Again, good to see  you my friend.

Same to you.  I knew that it meant.  Just fuckin' around.  Ugly word.

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« Reply #201 on: April 22, 2021, 07:34:09 PM »
Same to you.  I knew that it meant.  Just fuckin' around.  Ugly word.

I have found it as retarded as "whitey" or "jonque".  People are people and we have far more in common than we do that is different.  And still the "leaders" of nations want to make us celebrate our "differences".    Time to take my medicine and hit the hay! In all ways and for always, be well my friend!

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Re: I took the first dose of the vaccine...feel like shit
« Reply #202 on: April 22, 2021, 08:28:11 PM »


This is all bullshit, do a little research and stop spreading non sense you mut.

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Re: I took the first dose of the vaccine...feel like shit
« Reply #203 on: April 22, 2021, 08:31:13 PM »


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« Reply #204 on: April 22, 2021, 08:37:49 PM »

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Re: I took the first dose of the vaccine...feel like shit
« Reply #205 on: April 22, 2021, 08:46:20 PM »
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Re: I took the first dose of the vaccine...feel like shit
« Reply #206 on: April 23, 2021, 03:59:33 AM »
Corona Unmasked

select excerpts taken from prelim pre pub chapter of forthcoming, yet to b finalized book – 'Corona Unmasked' – authored by world renowned German-Thai-American microbiologist Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi (and some whore)

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The vaccines are here, and they are being given en masse – yet we don’t know if they work, how well they work, or what they do. That is why these vaccines have not been given regular approval by the EU, but only a “conditional approval” for emergency use (1). In the next 2 years, it will be re-viewed whether their benefits outweigh the risks. Every person who gets vaccinated now is part of this huge experiment. But, of course, without any liability!

Because with vaccinations under emergency rules, the manufacturers make no guarantees whatsoever – in case of serious reactions, or even in case of death, they are free from any liability.

Especially for completely novel, gene-based vaccines such as the mRNA vaccines against CoroSARS-CoV-2, a careful study of the possible risks would be particularly important, because according to the current state of scientific knowledge, a variety of severe side effects are conceivable.

It is thus all the more astonishing that meaningful studies on the efficacy and safety of these novel vaccines do not exist at all - Nor were such studies feasible within the short time available. Three pharmaceutical companies were at the fore-front of the mad race for the highly lucrative emergency approval: AstraZeneca with its DNA vector vaccine based on an adenovirus, and Biontech/Pfizer as well as Moderna with their mRNA vaccines. On December 21, 2020, the EU Commission approved the Biontech/Pfi-zer vaccine, followed shortly thereafter on January 6 by approval of the Moderna vaccine; and on January 29, AstraZeneca received EU approval, too. While careful clinical testing of a new vaccine was previously known to take at least 7–10 years, the whole process has now been shortened to mere months. Could reliable data be on the table in such a short time, so that the public could weigh risk versus benefit? Of course not. Nevertheless, everything was accepted and bought sight unseen by the authorities in Europe.

Do current vaccines protect against severe SARS-CoV-2 infection?

As a matter of fact, a protective effect against severe and possibly life-threatening COVID-19 disease could not be shown in monkey models with any of the vaccines (3–5).

What do the human trials say?

Mainstream media jubilantly spread the press releases of the companies without ever asking any critical questions. Thus, from the media we learn that the protection afforded by the vaccines is simply great – with Biontech/Pfizer the level of protection is even 95 percent! That sounds great – bring on the vaccination! But how do these numbers come about, knowing that healthy people very rarely get life-threatening COVID -19?

In fact, among the 40,000+ test subjects of the Biontech/Pfizer study (7), just 170 COVID-19 “cases” occurred (about 0.4%). Of these, 8 occurred among the vaccinated (1x severe), whereas 162 in the unvaccinated control group. The 8 cases in the first group equal 5% of the 162 in the second – therefore, 95% protection!?

Considering this small number of cases overall, the evidence must be described as plainly ridiculous from a scientific point of view. Moreover: how did this study define a “COVID-19 case” in the first place? Aha: symptoms like cough, cold, hoarseness and a positive RT-PCR test, which is extremely unreliable, as everyone knows by now. So, what we have here is a vaccination that might possibly prevent cough, cold, hoarseness in 0.7% of the vaccinated. For this breathtaking achievement, hundreds of vaccinated people had to accept severe side effects, some of which led to hospitalization.

The situation is no better for the other vaccine manufacturers. Accordingly, Professor Peter Doshi, writing in the prestigious British Journal of Medicine, complains: “None of the studies currently underway are designed to detect a reduction in severe outcomes in terms of hospitalization, admission to intensive care units, or death.«

How great is the benefit of vaccination, especially for the group most at risk from the infection? No one knows. Thereby, the justification for the conditional approval is the demonstrated prevention of serious or even deadly events. The conditional approvals for all gene-based vaccines were thus made without any basis whatsoever.

The human trial continues, and everyone who is now enthusiastic about being vaccinated is taking part.

Does the vaccine prevent infection and thus the spread of the viruses?

A widely proclaimed goal of vaccination is not only to prevent COVID-19 disease in the vaccinated persons, but also to prevent the spread of the virus in the population. Already in kindergartens and elementary schools, children are taught that they could unknowingly kill their grandparents because they carry the viruses without being sick themselves. To prevent this, everyone should be vaccinated, including the children. Does this make sense – can a vaccination prevent an infection at all?

Let us start with the first question: does it make sense to try to prevent the spread of viruses that are of little danger to most people in order to supposedly protect a risk group?

When we do develop symptoms, this is a sign that the viruses have found a chance to become active, and also that our immune system has entered the battle. If there is no cough, cold, hoarseness, etc., it means that our body is keeping the viruses at bay from the start. The viral load that a person can release into the out-side world without symptoms is too small to endanger other people in public. Therefore, the plan to vaccinate the entire population is a delusional and insane undertaking.

Let us turn to question 2: could the vaccines prevent the spread of SARS-CoV-2 viruses at all? The RKI states that this question is completely unresolved so far (13). To find out, one would have to examine whether 1) vaccinated people can still get an infection and whether 2) in this case, the amount of virus present is sufficient to infect others.

AstraZeneca alone made headlines with the news that vaccinated people were significantly less contagious. However, on closer inspection, it is blindingly obvious that once more no data exist to draw this conclusion. The study in question only looked at part 1 of the question: how many more people get an infection after being vaccinated. How was this checked?

The only criterion was positive RT-PCR tests (14). Now even the WHO says that the PCR test alone is not enough to diagnose an infection (15). So what is the the unsubstantiated claim worth that the spread of infection was massively reduced by the AstraZeneca vaccine? NOTHING.

Anyone who has the slightest idea about infections and immune defense also knows that the mechanistic concept for the SARS-CoV-2 vaccination which is presented to the public is amateurish and naive from the start. The antibodies induced by the vaccination will circulate for the most part in the bloodstream. For an analogy, readers may imagine that they themselves are such antibodies, sitting together in the living room – which represents a blood vessel of the lungs. Now the virus comes to the house – not bothering to ring the bell, it just grabs the door handle and steps into the hallway: the lung cell. How could you possibly stop it from doing so, while sitting in the living room? You can’t.

Antibodies can basically only help prevent the further spread of an intruder through the bloodstream. But that is not the primary protection against an attack from the air against the lungs. And that is precisely why there is no truly effective vaccine protection against respiratory infections, including influenza.

If the benefits of vaccinations are more than questionable, what about the risks?

We read in the mainstream media: mRNA vaccines are not new after all. That is true, but they have NEVER been used on humans to fight a viral infection. And humans have never been inoculated with recombinant viral genes, in the form of either DNA or mRNA.

Accordingly, the vaccinations were under a dark cloud from the outset. With all three gene-based vaccines, disturbing immediate side effects were noted – but carefully hidden from general awareness: severe swelling and pain at the injection site, high fever and chills, severe headache, limb and muscle pain throughout the body, diarrhea, nausea, vomiting. Many vaccinated people were so sick that they were unable to work. In the AstraZeneca study, the side effects were so bad that the study protocol had to be changed halfway through: in the later stages, study participants received high doses of the pain- and fever-relieving drug aceta-minophen in order to make the vaccination reasonably tolerable (16). Such changes of protocol in the middle of a study are actually not permitted at all. Why was an exception made here?

But that is not all. The AstraZeneca study was interrupted in July and September 2020 because of the occurrence in vaccinees of an extremely rare autoimmune disease, which affects the spinal cord (17). “Transverse myelitis” is associated with paralysis and normally occurs at the very low frequency of approximately 3 per 1 million population, every year. It is surprising,
then, that 2 such cases occurred among a relatively small number of vaccinated individuals.
AstraZeneca announced days later: calm down people, the first test person had incipient multiple sclerosis, the second case was purely an unfortunate coincidence. The show will go on! And so it did – AstraZeneca continued to forge ahead. But not only AstraZeneca – so did everyone else.

Comparable events occurred with competitors Mo-derna and Biontech/Pfizer. With both vaccines, volunteers suffered similarly severe general side effects. This sentence might be moved up to the discussion of general febrile reactions to the AstraZeneca vaccine.

Such a variety of immediate side effects has never been observed with any other vaccination. In America, when comparing the number of reported side effects of different vaccines over the 2 last years, the COVID-19 vaccine already comes out on top, although it was approved only in December 2020 (19).

Is the mRNA vaccine dangerous?

«No« is the answer that is spread everywhere. This is because 1) the vaccine introduces into our body only the information for a small part of the virus, for the so-called spike protein, which means that there is no intact virus that could propagate, and 2) the vaccine only imitates what Nature, too, would do. Intact viruses also release their genetic material into our cells when they attack, turning our cells into virus factories. So, no problem there at all, right?

Far from it. A natural respiratory infection typically affects only the respiratory tract itself. If, at worst, cell death occurs, the damage is local and can be repaired relatively easily.

With a vaccine, however, the viral genetic information is injected into the muscle. Many believe that the packaged viral genes remain at the site of injection – that is, within in the muscle. The genes would be taken up by cells at the site, which is where most “virus factories” would be created. Side effects such as swelling, redness and pain at the injection site would be expected because of this, but they would remain relatively harm-less and go away after a few days.

What a fatal mistake!

The virus genes in the Moderna and Biontech/Pfi-zer vaccines are packaged in so-called nanoparticles – which can be thought of as tiny packages, not made of paper, but of fat-like substances. This protects the contents and makes it easier for them to be absorbed by the cells of our body. The packaging itself causes a risk of severe allergic reactions that is many times higher than with conventional vaccines (20). It is thus not without reason that people with allergies are now being warned not to get vaccinated – life-threatening reactions (anaphylactic shock) could be triggered. In fact, such dangerous side effects did occur in some vaccination volunteers, who required emergency treatment. In addition, nanoparticles can have numerous other harmful effects because they can interfere with the function of our blood cells and clotting system (21).

But it gets infinitely worse. It is part of basic medical knowledge that all soluble substances injected into muscle tissue enter the bloodstream and are distributed throughout the body within a very short time. This is precisely why substances that are supposed to act immediately are injected into the muscles.

It is known that the injected gene packets also enter the bloodstream (22). Which cell types will take them up, process them, and then produce the virus protein?

The answer to this is not known with certainty.


We are now witnessing large-scale experiments on humans. This is absolutely irresponsible, especially since there was reason for caution from the beginning. The potential dangers from the “packaging” were already known. More significantly, however, alarming antibody-dependent enhancement – in this case, the antibodies do not prevent uptake of the virus into cells, but rather enhance it – has been observed in animal studies on SARS and other coronaviruses (23, 24). In the decades-long, yet futile effort to develop vaccines against SARS or MERS, this enhancement effect was repeatedly observed, as one among problem among many others (25). With this in mind, should not animal studies have been conducted to clearly rule out this effect for SARS-CoV-2? Physicians who do not alert those willing to be vaccinated to the risk that vaccination could make the disease worse, not better, are in violation of their duty to inform (26).

And more seriously, could the inoculation of viral genes trigger other novel immune-related enhancement effects? Shouldn’t such very elementary things have been considered and tested beforehand?

As a reminder, lymphocytes have a long-term memory – they remember what the «molecular garbage« looks like that is produced in Coronavirus infections. And corona garbage looks pretty much the same no matter which member of the virus family it is derived from. All humans have had training rounds with coronaviruses, and thus they have lymphocytes that will recognize SARS-CoV-2 garbage. People without in-depth knowledge might counter that these cross-reactive killer lymphocytes were detected in only 40–70% of old blood samples, and they reacted only weakly against SARS-CoV-2 (27, 28). However, it is known that only a small proportion of all lymphocytes are in the blood at any given time. The others are just taking a break and resting in the lymphoid organs (including the lymph nodes).

Here, we note an exciting finding: In April 2020, Swedish researchers reported that they had discovered something truly remarkable. Activated and combat-ready T lymphocytes were found in the blood of all people (100%) infected with SARS-CoV-2, regardless of the severity of the disease (29).

This finding is a clear, unmistakable warning.

For context: during an initial confrontation of the immune system with a virus, the lymphocyte response will be sluggish. Rapid, strong reactions such as that documented by the Swedish team reveal that forewarned troops are already at the ready and can be mobilized on short notice. They will swarm out of the lymphoid organs to fight the enemy. Their main task: extermination of the virus factories – death to the body’s own cells that produce the virus particles.

And now back to the new reality: the large-scale experiment on humans. The injected gene packets are taken up locally in muscle cells, but a large part reaches first the local lymph nodes and, after passing through these, the bloodstream. The lymph nodes are where the immune cell team resides. When the viral gene is taken up by any cell there, production of the spike protein gets underway. The corona killer lymphocyte next door wakes up and springs into action – the brotherly battle begins! Lymph node swelling. Pain. The lymphocytes psyche each other up and then emerge from the lymph nodes to seek out more enemies.

Yes – over there – the muscle cells! There they are!!! Attack!!! At the injection site redness, swelling, bad pain.

But now the nightmare.

This is because the substances with small molecules – for example, blood sugar – can easily seep out of the blood into the tissue, whereas large molecules such as proteins cannot. For them, the vessel walls are tight thanks to the lining with a cell layer – the endothelial cells.

What are the gene packages like – large or small?

Right – compared to blood sugar, they certainly are large. Therefore, once they enter the bloodstream, they will remain in the closed network of vascular tubes just like the blood cells. A small part of them is taken up by white blood cells. Presumably, however, most of the virus factories will be established in the endothelial cells, that is, in the innermost cell layer of the blood vessels themselves. This would happen mainly where the blood flows slowly – within the smallest and smallest vessels – because the gene packages can be taken up particularly efficiently by the cells there (30).

The endothelial cells then produce the viral spike protein and place the waste at the door – on the side that faces the bloodstream, where killer lymphocytes are on patrol. This time, the fight is one-sided. The endothelial cells have no defense.

What happens then can only be guessed at. Injury to the vascular lining usually leads to the formation of blood clots. This would likely happen in countless vessels in countless places in the body. If it happens in the placenta, severe damage to the child in the womb could result.

Shudder.

Is there evidence that something like this is taking place? Yes, there is talk of rare blood disorders in which a possible link to vaccination would have to be investigated (31). Strikingly, there are reports of patients in whom a sharp drop in blood platelets (thrombocytes) was observed. This would fit the hypothesis put for-ward here, because platelets are activated and used up at the sites of blood clot formation.

What is more, it seems that particularly the vaccinated are dying. Is this perhaps the immune-related exacerbation of diseases we have reason to fear? Not caused by antibodies, but by activated killer lymphocytes? And couldn’t this happen at any time to anyone vaccinated – tomorrow, the next day, next week, next fall? Because lymphocytes have an elephant’s memory. And they recognize something that looks similar in all coronaviruses: the molecular garbage that is produced by the virus-infected cells. That is, the lymphocyte induced exacerbation of disease progression could arguably occur with any infection with a related virus. In any “successfully” vaccinated person – young or old – and at any time in the near or distant future.

Conclusion

Gene-based vaccines received emergency approval at lightning speed to combat a virus that is no more dangerous than influenza (34). There is now clear evidence that people can become severely ill and die from these vaccinations. No real-world benefit of vaccination has ever been shown. Until reliable and convincing data are available, this high-risk human experiment must not be allowed to continue.

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Re: I took the first dose of the vaccine...feel like shit
« Reply #207 on: April 23, 2021, 04:22:50 AM »
I’ll bet Rachel Maddow won’t show you this chart:

I'm gonna go ahead here and bet there are a lot of things that Rachel Maddow wouldn't show me  ;D

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Re: I took the first dose of the vaccine...feel like shit
« Reply #208 on: April 23, 2021, 05:46:42 AM »
COVID-19 RNA Based Vaccines and the Risk of Prion Disease

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'The current RNA based SARS-CoV-2 vaccines were approved in the US using an emergency order without extensive long term safety testing. In this paper the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine was evaluated for the potential to induce prion-based disease in vaccine recipients.'

The RNA sequence of the vaccine as well as the spike protein target interaction were analyzed for the potential to convert intracellular RNA binding proteins TAR DNA binding protein (TDP-43) and Fused in Sarcoma (FUS) into their pathologic prion conformations. The results indicate that the vaccine RNA has specific sequences that may induce TDP-43 and FUS to fold into their pathologic prion confirmations.'

'The folding of TDP-43 and FUS into their pathologic prion confirmations is known to cause ALS, front temporal lobar degeneration, Alzheimer’s disease and other neurological degenerative diseases. The enclosed finding as well as additional potential risks leads the author to believe that regulatory approval of the RNA based vaccines for SARS-CoV-2 was premature and that the vaccine may cause much more harm than benefit'

'There are many other potential adverse events that can be induced by the novel RNA based vaccines against COVID-19. The vaccine places a novel molecule, spike protein, in/on the surface of host cells. This spike protein is a potential receptor for another possibly novel infectious agent. If those who argue that the COVID-19 is actually a bioweapon are correct, then a second potentially more dangerous virus may be released that binds spike protein found on the host cells of vaccine recipients.'

'Genetic diversity protects species from mass casualties caused by infectious agents. One individual may be killed by a virus while another may have no ill effects from the same virus. By placing the identical receptor, the spike protein, on cells of everyone in a population, the genetic diversity for at least one potential receptor disappears. Everyone in the population now becomes potentially susceptible to binding with the same infectious agent.'

'Approving a vaccine, utilizing novel RNA technology without extensive testing is extremely dangerous. The vaccine could be a bioweapon and even more dangerous than the original infection.'

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Re: I took the first dose of the vaccine...feel like shit
« Reply #209 on: April 23, 2021, 06:00:59 AM »
The real fucked up part about this is the lack of liability for the pharmaceutical companies. As stated here on this thread you’re essentially an unpaid lab rat for an experimental drug with questionable benefits and if something goes wrong, too bad.

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Re: I took the first dose of the vaccine...feel like shit
« Reply #210 on: April 23, 2021, 06:22:09 AM »
The real fucked up part about this is the lack of liability for the pharmaceutical companies. As stated here on this thread you’re essentially an unpaid lab rat for an experimental drug with questionable benefits and if something goes wrong, too bad.
this... & you can´t get them in court. They are covered. Take it at your own risk but at the same time they are trying to force it on people . going in the back door.

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Re: I took the first dose of the vaccine...feel like shit
« Reply #211 on: April 23, 2021, 06:29:34 AM »
this... & you can´t get them in court. They are covered. Take it at your own risk but at the same time they are trying to force it on people . going in the back door.

Seems like this is why they want to sell as many  as possible before they become approved and as a result can be held liable.

Just one scam after another.

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Re: I took the first dose of the vaccine...feel like shit
« Reply #212 on: April 23, 2021, 06:57:52 AM »
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« Reply #213 on: April 23, 2021, 09:05:14 AM »
Seems like this is why they want to sell as many  as possible before they become approved and as a result can be held liable.

Just one scam after another.

The only scam , is that too many misguided people will buy into this "anti-vax" nonsense.
My wife and I feel pretty safe with getting the Pfizer vaccine and no longer need to worry about an personal covid issues.

Obviously, you and those on your side, don't agree and that's life.

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« Reply #214 on: April 23, 2021, 09:09:39 AM »
There is no right or wrong answer here.  It's a matter of personal preference.

Those who don't want it aren't "misguided" and those who feel comfortable aren't "idiots".

Context is key amongst every individual decision.
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Re: I took the first dose of the vaccine...feel like shit
« Reply #215 on: April 23, 2021, 09:15:48 AM »
The only scam , is that too many misguided people will buy into this "anti-vax" nonsense.
My wife and I feel pretty safe with getting the Pfizer vaccine and no longer need to worry about an personal covid issues.

Obviously, you and those on your side, don't agree and that's life.

Anti-VAX is a term used by the establishment and institutionalized marks like you as a pejorative to people who have legitimate questions about this whole thing.

The funny thing is that I’ve had to listen to Bernie Bro types going on year after year about pharmaceutical companies and now we have a situation where they’re about to get the biggest taxpayer funded windfall ever and you guys are a bunch of fucking compliant mutes.

BTW, I’m not stopping you from getting it. In fact, I recommend you get all four of them on a weekly basis.

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Re: I took the first dose of the vaccine...feel like shit
« Reply #216 on: April 23, 2021, 09:26:15 AM »
There is no right or wrong answer here.  It's a matter of personal preference.

Those who don't want it aren't "misguided" and those who feel comfortable aren't "idiots".

Context is key amongst every individual decision.

To me , refusing to get a free vaccine to eradicate a pandemic level virus is foolish

It's like refusing to wear a seat belt or motorcycle helmet in the name of "freedom".
They want to be FREE to make their own choice and take the risks, right?

Nope , not that simple...

If you get in a wreck, your chances of serious injury or worse are a lot higher without a seat belt or motorcycle helmet.
So, the health care worker and EMT's now required to provide extra care and resources for THEIR risky choice.

At this point, IF someone refuses the  vaccine they should waive the REQUIREMENT for health care workers to treat them.


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Re: I took the first dose of the vaccine...feel like shit
« Reply #217 on: April 23, 2021, 09:35:25 AM »
We know the party line Howard. Unfortunately the data it doesn’t back up the story. Some of the most compliant places that had the most draconian restrictions have much worse than some of the more open places like Florida and Texas.

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Re: I took the first dose of the vaccine...feel like shit
« Reply #218 on: April 23, 2021, 09:40:56 AM »
We know the party line Howard. Unfortunately the data it doesn’t back up the story. Some of the most compliant places that had the most draconian restrictions have much worse than some of the more open places like Florida and Texas.


I hear ya and know some use the "company line" to promote an agenda.
I'm not an elected official, but I try to be consistent in the application of laws and regulations .

To me, if you want to do your own thing, don't come asking for help, IF it doesn't work out.

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Re: I took the first dose of the vaccine...feel like shit
« Reply #219 on: April 23, 2021, 09:42:44 AM »


BTW, I’m not stopping you from getting it. In fact, I recommend you get all four of them on a weekly basis.

 ;D ;D  Good zinger !  I'll be sure to post a brief video of me getting each one weekly  ;)

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Re: I took the first dose of the vaccine...feel like shit
« Reply #220 on: April 23, 2021, 09:52:13 AM »
We know the party line Howard. Unfortunately the data it doesn’t back up the story. Some of the most compliant places that had the most draconian restrictions have much worse than some of the more open places like Florida and Texas.

Our moron state of NYS was the worst of anyone.    >:(

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Re: I took the first dose of the vaccine...feel like shit
« Reply #221 on: April 23, 2021, 09:58:47 AM »
Our moron state of NYS was the worst of anyone.    >:(

Every state has it's pros/cons, so WTF.

I grew up in NH and they don't have any state income or sales tax.
But the property tax there is one of the highest in the country.
The most northern part of the state has the highest % property tax.

Ga is a balanced tax state ( sales , income and property) which makes it more stable.
You take a small amount from varied sources .
I like that better.


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Re: I took the first dose of the vaccine...feel like shit
« Reply #222 on: April 23, 2021, 10:05:30 AM »
To me , refusing to get a free vaccine to eradicate a pandemic level virus is foolish

It's like refusing to wear a seat belt or motorcycle helmet in the name of "freedom".
They want to be FREE to make their own choice and take the risks, right?

Nope , not that simple...

If you get in a wreck, your chances of serious injury or worse are a lot higher without a seat belt or motorcycle helmet.
So, the health care worker and EMT's now required to provide extra care and resources for THEIR risky choice.

At this point, IF someone refuses the  vaccine they should waive the REQUIREMENT for health care workers to treat them.

Your analogy is incorrect.

Throw out the incredible false premise that the vaccine "eradicates" this pandemic (there's speculation has to what levels MIGHT cause herd immunity) and focus on the seatbelt comment.

For your analogy to be remotely relatable, you'd have to add the context that the seatbelt is a new prototype with no long term testing on human use, the material is brand new and never used in a vehicle, and nobody knows the long term effects of the seatbelt use, or whether the seatbelt is still effective after a year, or you have to buy a new one.

You're ignoring context to try to make a point.
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Re: I took the first dose of the vaccine...feel like shit
« Reply #223 on: April 23, 2021, 10:12:26 AM »
There is no right or wrong answer here.  It's a matter of personal preference.

Those who don't want it aren't "misguided" and those who feel comfortable aren't "idiots".

Context is key amongst every individual decision.

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Re: I took the first dose of the vaccine...feel like shit
« Reply #224 on: April 23, 2021, 10:23:39 AM »
There is no right or wrong answer here.  It's a matter of personal preference.

Those who don't want it aren't "misguided" and those who feel comfortable aren't "idiots".

Context is key amongst every individual decision.

This.

This vaccine has been politicized and now people are drawing a line in the sand and maintaining their stance is right and the other side is wrong.