Ted Nugent former covid-19 denier ,gets Covid

[Taffin]

while i liked his solo work, I think he performed better within the confines of the group dynamic. but like all rockers and actors , he should just stick to his craft and leave politics to the getbiggers in the know like coach and hypertwit.

 



Edit:

  I agree, I was just referencing American psycho to see if I'd get a rise.

Dammit!  Got here too late 

[Matt]

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/ted-nugent-positive-coronavirus-diagnosis

Tested positive and said he felt like total crap for a few days.
Still won't get the vaccine for reasons that make sense to him.

Who denies Covid-19 is a real virus?

If you can forgive the rest of us for being aware of the fact that COVID is 99.9% survivable in most age demographics [and is literally 2,807 times as deadly for people over 80 than people under 40 here in Canada], you can lock yourself in your basement forever, and let the rest of us move on with our lives.

And no, I'm not getting an untested gene therapy technology [it does not meet the traditional medical definition of a vaccine, so please stop calling it that] for a virus I probably got last February and recovered from in six days.

Again, you are welcome to lock yourself in your basement with everyone else afraid of their shadow.

We would actually prefer this.

Your narrative of a massive global killer plague has disappeared. The low lethality rate, age demographic data on risk groups, and economic toll of all these measures which did little to nothing to actually prevent COVID from spreading in the actual at-risk demographic [over 80] has now undeniably gone. It serves you right for lying and gaslighting millions - quite possibly billions - of people and suffocating children in masks while telling them COVID is a deadly pandemic to all people equally when this is now all obviously completely horseshit.

As the months go on, their will be so many lawsuits with various world governments being unable to prove the claims of risks they made with any actual data to back it up that people will be pointing to politicians who said this, and asking for their HEADS ON STICKS, for fuck's sake.

Yet you STILL believe this shit.

Do you know even ONE PERSON who died of COVID, Howard? You daft twat.

And your lies about COVID being some great equalizer of death is directly what caused people to be pushed into mass hysteria mode, which resulted in 69% of all Covid-19 deaths in Canada to be in long-term care homes alone:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/canada-record-covid-19-deaths-wealthy-countries-cihi-1.5968749

And yet you STILL go on.

Unbelievable.

You are a part of the reason why I'm forced to default to believe that all Little Hats are lying to my face every time they talk to me. The fuck is even wrong with you?

God, I hate that every post of yours I read just reaffirms racial stereotypes. I blame you in part for my anti-Semitism which I unfairly directed at OneMoreRep, when his posts versus yours are like fact versus fiction.

On a sort of positive note, I was somewhat impressed with how well the people of the world came together to fight a perceived shared global threat.

What I resent is the continued lies from your camp [your camp being left-wingers and mainstream media - not Jews].

You know, you can say whatever you want about my posts, but they tend to age well.

Your posts tend to age like your marriages. Or my marriages for that matter, if I was dumb enough to get into one.

I think I'm just a lot better at predicting the outcomes of things than you are [whether good or bad].

Covid-19 was not the global threat it claimed to be, and people globally participated in combating it anyway.

But when do you permit us to say "ENOUGH"?

Again, you are welcome to lock yourself in your basement, Howard. No one is stopping you.

[Matt]

Nothing and no one has disproven anything Ted has said.

Symptomatically speaking, we have been getting ill at the same rate and frequency as before COVID.

Now, instead of flu or rhinovirus it’s Wuhan Flu.

They still have not isolated a full example of COVID 19. They only test for three small pieces of it furnished by CHINAHH.

Same number of people dying last year as would have with no COVID. Although the number slightly up from 2019 the increase was exactly the same year over year as the prior 5 years.

The irrefutable fact is no one knows what long term effects this “vaccine” will have. They deny any possibility of possible harm in the media and until they at least get honest and admit what they don’t know I will never take it.

Best wishes Motor City Madman praying for a swift recovery.

Exactly. The global population went UP by 80 million people last year, LMAO.

Although that was a slightly lower INCREASE than the 81 million it went up by in 2019. Epic global killer plague. 

As Fortress said, if this bullshit requires me to wear a mask when I'm at the store to buy some eggs, fine. But that's the most I will be tolerating this. Canada is currently talking about forcing all Canadians to take the gene therapy "vaccine", or to be cancelled from society, essentially.

If that is the case, then I get cancelled. Oh well. I'll have other people buy anything I need from stores that I can't get delivered, and I can't as of yet be kicked out of my own home [although who knows what demands our loony bin government will demand here in time].

I just hope enough sheep line up to get the gene therapy innoculation so that Bill Gates and Big Pharma don't have to push it on everyone by writ of law.

Bill Gates, a man who can't even stop viruses from spreading all over his own computer software is not an expert physician and virologist. Oh brother. 

It was nice seeing Bill Gates go from almost universally supported as a triple-digit multibillionaire to having his reputation destroyed in the blink of an eye. As OneMoreRep said, complete snake in the grass:

[BossBoss]

@Matt

you make alot of sense..but so does this guy:

https://www.reddit.com/r/LSD/comments/m0rove/when_the_200ug_tabs_turns_out_to_really_be_200ug/

[Howard]

If  being in the basement was good enough for Biden , it's  good enough for me.
Plus, I have my Bow Flex down there. My treadmill looks  out the NORTH window, so I can see Canada 

May a large Canuck moose, shove an antler up your ass. Good time 'eh Matt

Here you are, back in the day, when you were young and full of jizz 

[Abelard Lindsey]

Being infected with SARS-CoV-2 produces a broader range of antibodies than the vaccines, which produce only the spike protein. Natural infection produces T-cell memory, which the vaccines do not. It is T-cell memory that gives lasting immunity to SARS-CoV-2 (years, possibly decades). The antibodies fade away in less than 6 months. This is why vaccine immunity is not lasting. I had Covid-19 last year and gave blood about 6 months latter. They tested my blood and found no antibodies at all. Nevertheless, I am certain it was covid-19 that I had because the experience was totally different than any cold or flu I've ever had. If you've had covid-19, not only are the vaccines useless. They add additional risk that is entirely unnecessary.

It is worth considering that the spike protein that the vaccines were designed to produce came from the Chinese early last year. No one over here bothered to isolate themselves. My understanding is that no one here in the West has even bothered to sequence this virus. They are all relying on data supplied by the Chinese. The spike protein that the vaccines are designed to produce was ASSUMED to be harmless in the absence of the "N" part of the virus. There was ZERO scientific evidence for this assertion. Some one recently conducted a test where they added the spike protein to whole blood in a petri dish. Guess what? Clotting resulted in that blood sample. It turns out that no one in the medical establishment even bothered to do this simple experiment to check if the spike protein was indeed harmless or not on its own.

The system is rotten through and through. There is a reason why more and more people are avoiding not only the vaccinces themselve, but the medical system in general. The only time that I will go to a doctor is if I'm suffer trauma injury of any kind (e.g. car accident, gun shut wound, etc.). I will avoid the medical system in all other cases.

Besides, there's a lot of DIY stuff happening in the life extension milieu.

longecity.com/forums

[Howard]

Being infected with SARS-CoV-2 produces a broader range of antibodies than the vaccines, which produce only the spike protein. Natural infection produces T-cell memory, which the vaccines do not. It is T-cell memory that gives lasting immunity to SARS-CoV-2 (years, possibly decades). The antibodies fade away in less than 6 months. This is why vaccine immunity is not lasting. I had Covid-19 last year and gave blood about 6 months latter. They tested my blood and found no antibodies at all. Nevertheless, I am certain it was covid-19 that I had because the experience was totally different than any cold or flu I've ever had. If you've had covid-19, not only are the vaccines useless. They add additional risk that is entirely unnecessary.

It is worth considering that the spike protein that the vaccines were designed to produce came from the Chinese early last year. No one over here bothered to isolate themselves. My understanding is that no one here in the West has even bothered to sequence this virus. They are all relying on data supplied by the Chinese. The spike protein that the vaccines are designed to produce was ASSUMED to be harmless in the absence of the "N" part of the virus. There was ZERO scientific evidence for this assertion. Some one recently conducted a test where they added the spike protein to whole blood in a petri dish. Guess what? Clotting resulted in that blood sample. It turns out that no one in the medical establishment even bothered to do this simple experiment to check if the spike protein was indeed harmless or not on its own.

The system is rotten through and through. There is a reason why more and more people are avoiding not only the vaccinces themselve, but the medical system in general. The only time that I will go to a doctor is if I'm suffer trauma injury of any kind (e.g. car accident, gun shut wound, etc.). I will avoid the medical system in all other cases.

Besides, there's a lot of DIY stuff happening in the life extension milieu.

longecity.com/forums

I'll give you credit for posting some personal experience and trying to avoid crazy conspiracy nonsense.
However the mRNA vaccine is geared to attack the protein spike of covid19 and render it useless.

From  personal anecdotal accounts, we have some credible reports that indicate the immune response from positive covid victims doesn't last that long.  The vaccine appears to be longer lasting , at least with the Pfizer and Moderna BUT the jury is still out on that.

I'm older so my wife and I go both doses of the Pfizer last month. No side effects .

I understand using caution, but right now , the vaccine is the best shot at eradication of covid.

Thanks again for providing a thoughtful post on a tough topic.

[Dave D]

I'll give you credit for posting some personal experience and trying to avoid crazy conspiracy nonsense.
However the mRNA vaccine is geared to attack the protein spike of covid19 and render it useless.

From  personal anecdotal accounts, we have some credible reports that indicate the immune response from positive covid victims doesn't last that long.  The vaccine appears to be longer lasting , at least with the Pfizer and Moderna BUT the jury is still out on that.

I'm older so my wife and I go both doses of the Pfizer last month. No side effects .

I understand using caution, but right now , the vaccine is the best shot at eradication of covid.

Thanks again for providing a thoughtful post on a tough topic.

Howard what are you saying in the bolded part?

That the vaccine lasts longer than the covid antibody?

I’m not trolling I’m trying to make sense of what you’re saying, it looks like you’re saying the vaccine might or might not be...

[Abelard Lindsey]

In my case, getting the vaccine is not a rational choice.

[Humble Narcissist]

In my case, getting the vaccine is not a rational choice.

Just as in most cases.

[Thin Lizzy]

Howard what are you saying in the bolded part?

That the vaccine lasts longer than the covid antibody?

I’m not trolling I’m trying to make sense of what you’re saying, it looks like you’re saying the vaccine might or might not be...

It doesn’t matter. The story changes on a weekly basis. A few weeks ago the head of the CDC was warning of impending doom. Now Fauci is saying that outdoor activities present minuscule risk.

[funk51]

If  being in the basement was good enough for Biden , it's  good enough for me.
Plus, I have my Bow Flex down there. My treadmill looks  out the NORTH window, so I can see Canada 

May a large Canuck moose, shove an antler up your ass. Good time 'eh Matt

Here you are, back in the day, when you were young and full of jizz 

         

&t=79s                                              cool video both those guys look special.

[Thin Lizzy]

Apparently, Covid causes fires now.😂😂

How can anybody take the government and its media water carriers seriously at this point?

[funk51]

Apparently, Covid causes fires now.😂😂

How can anybody take the government and its media water carriers seriously at this point?

         

     nah, It's space lasers causing them

[Thin Lizzy]

So far we’ve been right here about lockdowns and now masks. Vaccines won’t be any different. The backlash will be coming soon.

[Howard]

Howard what are you saying in the bolded part?

That the vaccine lasts longer than the covid antibody?

I’m not trolling I’m trying to make sense of what you’re saying, it looks like you’re saying the vaccine might or might not be...

Simple...nobody knows the longevity of the effective immune response from any vaccine now.
It's only been in mainstream use for 6mos.

However, based on what is known, the vaccine appears to have a much longer immunity response then those who caught covid and recovered.

[Howard]

In my case, getting the vaccine is not a rational choice.

I'm sorry, but that's totally wrong.
The goal now is to eradicate the covid virus.

The vaccine is our best shot to do that quickly.

[joswift]

I'm sorry, but that's totally wrong.


The vaccine is our best shot to do that quickly.

its a coronavirus it will always be around in one form or another. less mortality but still around, just like we cant eradicate the common cold..

[Thin Lizzy]

its a coronavirus it will always be around in one form or another. less mortality but still around, just like we cant eradicate the common cold..

No, we have to pretend this is something new and that there hasn’t been a flu season every year before 2020:

[Howard]

its a coronavirus it will always be around in one form or another. less mortality but still around, just like we cant eradicate the common cold..

This is where things get complicated and virology isn't my field, so I'm ignorant on some of the key details.
All I do know is that we can eradicate the Covid-19 virus and similar variants with the vaccine.
 I "THINK"  the dangerous part of this virus is located in the protein spike.  The mRNA vaccine targets that.

Every medical expert (I know)  adds, we need to get most people vaccinated quickly to eradicate the disease.
When people refuse the vaccine, it allows for the original virus to linger and eventually mutate .
Right now, we have a few mutations but they are similar enough , that the vaccine still works on 'em.

 This is why it's important to get the vaccine NOW!  It's our best path forward . Let's not allow  perfect to be the enemy of the good.

[Thin Lizzy]

We also have to pretend that Vaccines have been the reason for the decline in cases when the same thing happened last year in the absence of Vaccines:

[Abelard Lindsey]

I'm sorry, but that's totally wrong.
The goal now is to eradicate the covid virus.

The vaccine is our best shot to do that quickly.

A non-obese person has a 0.2% chance dying from the virus itself. The same individual has a 0.02% chance of dying from the vaccine itself. Your chances of getting the virus was 10% last year, and will decline each year there after. Thus, the risk of dying from the vaccine is comparable to that of the virus any given year (you only have 10% chance of getting the virus itself). Since I already had covid-19, I already passed the first risk. There is no reason for me to accept the additional risk of the vaccine. Thus, it is not a rational choice for me to get the vaccine.

All medical interventions involve risk. This is why the decision to undergo any given medical intervention is done only after careful risk/benefit analysis, an analysis that must be done purely on the basis of personal protection. For example, when I do life extension stuff, anything from taking CoQ-10, NAD+, etc al the way up to senolytics with stem cell regeneration, I do so only after careful consideration of the benefit/risk to myself, where I deem the benefit outweighs the risk. I make all medical decisions on this basis and no other. I have NEVER made any medical decision on any other criteria and never will.

[Fortress]

The goal now is to eradicate the covid virus.

An impossibility. Get even a slight grip, tosser.

[Howard]

A non-obese person has a 0.2% chance dying from the virus itself. The same individual has a 0.02% chance of dying from the vaccine itself. Your chances of getting the virus was 10% last year, and will decline each year there after. Thus, the risk of dying from the vaccine is comparable to that of the virus any given year (you only have 10% chance of getting the virus itself). Since I already had covid-19, I already passed the first risk. There is no reason for me to accept the additional risk of the vaccine. Thus, it is not a rational choice for me to get the vaccine.

All medical interventions involve risk. This is why the decision to undergo any given medical intervention is done only after careful risk/benefit analysis, an analysis that must be done purely on the basis of personal protection. For example, when I do life extension stuff, anything from taking CoQ-10, NAD+, etc al the way up to senolytics with stem cell regeneration, I do so only after careful consideration of the benefit/risk to myself, where I deem the benefit outweighs the risk. I make all medical decisions on this basis and no other. I have NEVER made any medical decision on any other criteria and never will.

I respect your opinion on this and it's obvious you're aware of the data.
However, for me it's a lot more simple . 200 million got a vaccine shot already. That's working well.
LOL, even Trump got a vaccine after he recovered from catching it.

[Thin Lizzy]

A non-obese person has a 0.2% chance dying from the virus itself. The same individual has a 0.02% chance of dying from the vaccine itself. Your chances of getting the virus was 10% last year, and will decline each year there after. Thus, the risk of dying from the vaccine is comparable to that of the virus any given year (you only have 10% chance of getting the virus itself). Since I already had covid-19, I already passed the first risk. There is no reason for me to accept the additional risk of the vaccine. Thus, it is not a rational choice for me to get the vaccine.

All medical interventions involve risk. This is why the decision to undergo any given medical intervention is done only after careful risk/benefit analysis, an analysis that must be done purely on the basis of personal protection. For example, when I do life extension stuff, anything from taking CoQ-10, NAD+, etc al the way up to senolytics with stem cell regeneration, I do so only after careful consideration of the benefit/risk to myself, where I deem the benefit outweighs the risk. I make all medical decisions on this basis and no other. I have NEVER made any medical decision on any other criteria and never will.

LOL that you get a more comprehensive analysis on an obscure bodybuilding board than from the entire main stream media combined.😂😂