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Re: Back In the 100lb Dumbell Press Club. Wooooo
« Reply #50 on: April 27, 2021, 03:08:15 PM »
Straps pulled so tight that it hurts makes your grip much harder and thus making my hand one with the bar. I did it a few times and it always got me a little more weight or a few more reps.you can say that’s not how they work but they did for me.I didn’t use them deadlifting 700 lbs,barbell rows 405-455 or dB rows 200lbs  so I don’t need them but a strong guy I knew said try them pressing and it felt pretty good.

Say as you will but I know what I did.

I already suspected this would be the case and yeah you just described the function of wrist wraps which do the job many times better.

You however don't go around posting about training high level athletes and calling yourself "coach", so it's a non issue. But for someone who does, it's strong retardation.

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Re: Back In the 100lb Dumbell Press Club. Wooooo
« Reply #51 on: April 27, 2021, 03:25:13 PM »
Well I've done the 180s so I'm sure others can do 200+

I've never seen anyone row 200 pound DB's for reps without straps.

The power lifters and strongmen bro's i trained with years ago couldn't do it.

I could do the 160's for 10-12 reps with just chalk. Maybe 2 reps with the 180's. And i have massive hands.

Sometimes i forget all the record setting lifters who post here. ;D

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Re: Back In the 100lb Dumbell Press Club. Wooooo
« Reply #52 on: April 27, 2021, 03:43:30 PM »
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« Reply #53 on: April 27, 2021, 03:45:32 PM »
Good work Vince + color-coordinating the sneaks and the shirt.

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Re: Back In the 100lb Dumbell Press Club. Wooooo
« Reply #54 on: April 27, 2021, 03:55:03 PM »
I don`t have an IG account.
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Yes, but rumor has it you were there , In Menlo Park, NJ, 1879 ,when Edison turned on the 1st electric light. ;D

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Re: Back In the 100lb Dumbell Press Club. Wooooo
« Reply #55 on: April 27, 2021, 04:00:46 PM »
Yes, but rumor has it you were there , In Menlo Park, NJ, 1879 ,when Edison turned on the 1st electric light. ;D
It`s not a tumor rumor (said in my best Arnold voice) !!   ;D

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Re: Back In the 100lb Dumbell Press Club. Wooooo
« Reply #56 on: April 27, 2021, 04:03:27 PM »
I've never seen anyone row 200 pound DB's for reps without straps.

The power lifters and strongmen bro's i trained with years ago couldn't do it.

I could do the 160's for 10-12 reps with just chalk. Maybe 2 reps with the 180's. And i have massive hands.

Sometimes i forget all the record setting lifters who post here. ;D

Majority are also millionaires and billionaires

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Re: Back In the 100lb Dumbell Press Club. Wooooo
« Reply #57 on: April 27, 2021, 04:04:06 PM »


That isn't a row.

It's a power shrug. ;D

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Re: Back In the 100lb Dumbell Press Club. Wooooo
« Reply #58 on: April 27, 2021, 04:04:31 PM »


200 pd dumbbells should be the max, this is just retarded and ridiculous

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Re: Back In the 100lb Dumbell Press Club. Wooooo
« Reply #59 on: April 27, 2021, 04:47:08 PM »
And pressing with straps is your solution? Well done for doubling down on the retardation.

Also I generally try avoid training with vertically challenged individuals. Requires too much messing around and adjusting of equipment. Thanks anyway.

LOL...so you can't see how using straps while pressing would't help with tendonitis by tightening the wrist which would in turn compress the extensors in addition to not having the weight drop on my face. Fuckin rookie. Go back to your Curves class lol

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Re: Back In the 100lb Dumbell Press Club. Wooooo
« Reply #60 on: April 27, 2021, 05:03:05 PM »
And pressing with straps is your solution? Well done for doubling down on the retardation.

Also I generally try avoid training with vertically challenged individuals. Requires too much messing around and adjusting of equipment. Thanks anyway.

How tall are you? Anything 6’4 or less on getbig you can’t call anyone out

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Re: Back In the 100lb Dumbell Press Club. Wooooo
« Reply #61 on: April 27, 2021, 05:06:27 PM »
LOL...so you can't see how using straps while pressing would't help with tendonitis by tightening the wrist which would in turn compress the extensors in addition to not having the weight drop on my face. Fuckin rookie. Go back to your Curves class lol

Now you triple down on the retardation. I've explained twice in this thread there's something called wrist wraps which are far superior at this task, and are actually designed to tighten around and support the wrist. You can even get wrist wraps with lifting straps "Coach".

Think it's time for to get back on the short bus. Don't forget your lifting straps to help you on..

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Re: Back In the 100lb Dumbell Press Club. Wooooo
« Reply #62 on: April 27, 2021, 05:45:22 PM »
Now you triple down on the retardation. I've explained twice in this thread there's something called wrist wraps which are far superior at this task, and are actually designed to tighten around and support the wrist. You can even get wrist wraps with lifting straps "Coach".

Think it's time for to get back on the short bus. Don't forget your lifting straps to help you on..

They don’t work for me. Period. I’ve been to PT, I’ve tried the wraps, I’ve taped my wrists to the middle of my forearm and still doesn’t work like straps. If you want to start a thread just you and I about training, training with and around injuries....do it. Then we can see who’s riding the short bus, Junior

I’ll wait

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Re: Back In the 100lb Dumbell Press Club. Wooooo
« Reply #63 on: April 27, 2021, 06:17:07 PM »
They don’t work for me. Period. I’ve been to PT, I’ve tried the wraps, I’ve taped my wrists to the middle of my forearm and still doesn’t work like straps. If you want to start a thread just you and I about training, training with and around injuries....do it. Then we can see who’s riding the short bus, Junior

I’ll wait

I've already posted that straps make the diameter of the bar slightly thicker which could help someone feel more secure pressing if they had wrist, elbow or other stability issues, but again they are the wrong tool. Now go use wrist wraps and thicker bar or add grips and stop using lifting straps like a moron. If you still want to be a complete imbecile at least use straps that come wrist wraps. You're maybe getting a 1/3 of the benefits you could be getting using just straps.

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« Reply #64 on: April 27, 2021, 06:41:15 PM »
There is no reason at all at 40+ years old to be doing this.   Think more reps with compound movements, think sweating and getting that heart rate up. 

You want to think about being able, capable, and functional for daily activities.  For example - cool you bench 100 lb db - but if you are gassed the f out like that fat bastid Kamali after 10 seconds of actual exertion, what the heck is the purpose of this? 

Awesome job in the gym.  But if your goals are to get back to where you were, doing the same things when we were 25 is not going to yield the same results at 45.


It's better to do 225 with the wide grip, instead of jerking those dumbbells into the launch position. I don't do presses with dumbbells anymore (not for shoulders or for chest). Barbells are safer and easier. And with a wide grip, you can squeeze the pecs the same way as you can with the dumbbells.
I used to rep 315 no problem on the bench.  Now - I never go above 225.  Last time I tried 315, I felt this weird thing in shoulder like it was going to result in a tear.   If we are injured, we can't train.  If we can't train, then what?  The cost / benefit analysis simply doesnt make sense to go really heavy any more. 

We all want to see you succeed here.   ;)

 

Any exercises that hurt my joints or tendons I either don't do at all or do them dead last after fatiguing the muscle with other exercises.

For triceps, overhead extensions are done last (if at all), after dips. And they're done with a cable. Of course, last year during the lockdowns, I had no choice but to do skull crushers and overhead extensions. But, for some reason, using water jugs as weights didn't hurt my elbows that much. Perhaps, it's due to the center of mass shifting while moving.


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Re: Back In the 100lb Dumbell Press Club. Wooooo
« Reply #65 on: April 27, 2021, 06:45:15 PM »
I've never seen anyone row 200 pound DB's for reps without straps.

The power lifters and strongmen bro's i trained with years ago couldn't do it.

I could do the 160's for 10-12 reps with just chalk. Maybe 2 reps with the 180's. And i have massive hands.

Sometimes i forget all the record setting lifters who post here. ;D

That beats me, the best I ever did was 10 strict reps ( with straps) with a 150 lb DB  ( biggest I ever saw on any gym rack I trained at).
Today , I ended my back work with 10 reps with a 100 lb DB ( with strap) , which was the biggest DB at this gym.
 That kicked my old ass ,but at least I'm lifting "real wts" and off my Bowflex  8)

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Re: Back In the 100lb Dumbell Press Club. Wooooo
« Reply #66 on: April 27, 2021, 06:47:25 PM »
It's better to do 225 with the wide grip, instead of jerking those dumbbells into the launch position. I don't do presses with dumbbells anymore (not for shoulders or for chest). Barbells are safer and easier. And with a wide grip, you can squeeze the pecs the same way as you can with the dumbbells.

Good tip.

I found doing a superset of cable crosses or pec dec right before incline DB presses is effective.
This reduces the DB wt you need and you really feel it in the upper pecs.

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Re: Back In the 100lb Dumbell Press Club. Wooooo
« Reply #67 on: April 27, 2021, 06:49:41 PM »
Good tip.

I found doing a superset of cable crosses or pec dec right before incline DB presses is effective.
This reduces the DB wt you need and you really feel it in the upper pecs.

Thanks. I did supersets like that when I had to use the fitness center where my girlfriend (now wife) lived, until I got my gym membership back.

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Re: Back In the 100lb Dumbell Press Club. Wooooo
« Reply #68 on: April 27, 2021, 06:49:58 PM »
I've already posted that straps make the diameter of the bar slightly thicker which could help someone feel more secure pressing if they had wrist, elbow or other stability issues, but again they are the wrong tool. Now go use wrist wraps and thicker bar or add grips and stop using lifting straps like a moron. If you still want to be a complete imbecile at least use straps that come wrist wraps. You're maybe getting a 1/3 of the benefits you could be getting using just straps.

Kid, I’ve been training for 47 years. And while I will agree that thicker bar would help for some it won’t for me personally. We were sponsored by Fat Grips when I had my facilities and great for grip strength the fact remains (and I did forget to mention this) that I have broken pinkie finger and still can’t grip. Might want to go back in my history and see what I did with my athletes.


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Re: Back In the 100lb Dumbell Press Club. Wooooo
« Reply #69 on: April 28, 2021, 08:40:46 AM »
They don’t work for me. Period. I’ve been to PT, I’ve tried the wraps, I’ve taped my wrists to the middle of my forearm and still doesn’t work like straps. If you want to start a thread just you and I about training, training with and around injuries....do it. Then we can see who’s riding the short bus, Junior

I’ll wait
what the fuck are you babbling about  ::)
you sound very confused.

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Re: Back In the 100lb Dumbell Press Club. Wooooo
« Reply #70 on: April 28, 2021, 08:51:43 AM »
what the fuck are you babbling about  ::)
you sound very confused.


Just add "up to" "the middle of my forearms" and it makes sense.

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Re: Back In the 100lb Dumbell Press Club. Wooooo
« Reply #71 on: April 28, 2021, 08:59:36 AM »

It's better to do 225 with the wide grip, instead of jerking those dumbbells into the launch position. I don't do presses with dumbbells anymore (not for shoulders or for chest). Barbells are safer and easier. And with a wide grip, you can squeeze the pecs the same way as you can with the dumbbells.


It's true that instability reduces the output of the targeted tissue, the pec in this case, though barbells put the pec in a compromised position. Same with shoulders potentially.

One thing that is a pet peeve of mine is the range of motion with dumbells vs barbell. It's always said the range of motion is longer, and therefore better, with dumbells. But it's just not true, with dumbell presses you get a much shorter range of motion since you can't get as deep due to the plates hitting your body. Check any video of any bb doing db presses and see where the hands are at the bottom vs where they would be with a barbell hitting your chest.

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Re: Back In the 100lb Dumbell Press Club. Wooooo
« Reply #72 on: April 28, 2021, 09:10:34 AM »

It's better to do 225 with the wide grip

I have never heard anyone advocating wide grip bench as a safe alternative on benching.
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Re: Back In the 100lb Dumbell Press Club. Wooooo
« Reply #73 on: April 28, 2021, 09:19:31 AM »
what the fuck are you babbling about  ::)
you sound very confused.

What’s confusing. I used athletic tape. Didn’t mean to put “like straps”

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Re: Back In the 100lb Dumbell Press Club. Wooooo
« Reply #74 on: April 28, 2021, 09:25:37 AM »
This is from yesterday with 120’s. Because of that finger I can’t completely lock out my elbow. Even if I extend it without weight and again, can’t completely close or grip with the pinkie finger