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Re: Dana Linn Baley is back !!!!!
« Reply #50 on: May 26, 2021, 02:37:56 AM »

Yes- A huge study of high school and college athletes was done in the early 1960's - wish I still had the link. But anyways it showed that after a weight training program the muscle mass increases over 4  years was an average of about 10-15 pounds, with 30 pounds being in the top 1 % of gainers. That really was pre-steroid by and large- so it pretty much sums up what is naturally possible.

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Re: Dana Linn Baley is back !!!!!
« Reply #51 on: May 26, 2021, 04:02:37 AM »

Yes- A huge study of high school and college athletes was done in the early 1960's - wish I still had the link. But anyways it showed that after a weight training program the muscle mass increases over 4  years was an average of about 10-15 pounds, with 30 pounds being in the top 1 % of gainers. That really was pre-steroid by and large- so it pretty much sums up what is naturally possible.

Doctor Walczak, the guy everyone in So. Ca went for steroids back when it was legal and worked with every major bber from the 70s through the 80s, said that, assuming your training and nutrition was good (not even perfect or optimal), about 90% of your gains are made within the first year (we're talking hormone free). After that, it's very slow going maxing out in about two, or maybe, again maybe, in three years. You can play with body composition -- gaining or losing weight -- but putting on real lean muscle will then be measured in ounces, and even that will come and go depending on if everything at that stage is optimal.

I know many will doubt it but, seriously, just look at yourself over the years if you are hormone free. how much have you really changed from those countless hours in the gym? And even if you juice you will also reach a plateau and then it's all about conditioning. How much bigger do those guys on the Olympia stage get over the years? You'll have those few that make a noticeable jump like Dorian, Ronnie, and 2009 Jay. But those are few and far in between, and even then it goes fast no matter what they do or take.

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Re: Dana Linn Baley is back !!!!!
« Reply #52 on: May 26, 2021, 04:05:56 AM »
Doctor Walczak, the guy everyone in So. Ca went for steroids back when it was legal and worked with every major bber from the 70s through the 80s, said that, assuming your training and nutrition was good (not even perfect or optimal), about 90% of your gains are made within the first year (we're talking hormone free). After that, it's very slow going maxing out in about two, or maybe, again maybe, in three years. You can play with body composition -- gaining or losing weight -- but putting on real lean muscle will then be measured in ounces, and even that will come and go depending on if everything at that stage is optimal.

I know many will doubt it but, seriously, just look at yourself over the years if you are hormone free. how much have you really changed from those countless hours in the gym? And even if you juice you will also reach a plateau and then it's all about conditioning. How much bigger do those guys on the Olympia stage get over the years? You'll have those few that make a noticeable jump like Dorian, Ronnie, and 2009 Jay. But those are few and far in between, and even then it goes fast no matter what they do or take.
Most people think they are always gaining when the reality is they just yo yo between getting out of shape and back in shape again.

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Re: Dana Linn Baley is back !!!!!
« Reply #53 on: May 26, 2021, 06:06:42 AM »
Carry a baby calf around every day.  As it grows and grows you'll get huge.

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Re: Dana Linn Baley is back !!!!!
« Reply #54 on: May 26, 2021, 06:13:13 AM »
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« Reply #55 on: May 26, 2021, 11:24:03 AM »
oldies but goodies.
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« Reply #56 on: May 26, 2021, 12:47:11 PM »
Doctor Walczak, the guy everyone in So. Ca went for steroids back when it was legal and worked with every major bber from the 70s through the 80s, said that, assuming your training and nutrition was good (not even perfect or optimal), about 90% of your gains are made within the first year (we're talking hormone free). After that, it's very slow going maxing out in about two, or maybe, again maybe, in three years. You can play with body composition -- gaining or losing weight -- but putting on real lean muscle will then be measured in ounces, and even that will come and go depending on if everything at that stage is optimal.

I know many will doubt it but, seriously, just look at yourself over the years if you are hormone free. how much have you really changed from those countless hours in the gym? And even if you juice you will also reach a plateau and then it's all about conditioning. How much bigger do those guys on the Olympia stage get over the years? You'll have those few that make a noticeable jump like Dorian, Ronnie, and 2009 Jay. But those are few and far in between, and even then it goes fast no matter what they do or take.


I completely agree. I made my biggest jump in year 1 of regular lifting, which was in college. Years 2 and on were minimal. At most I'd say i gained 20-25 pounds. I was 160 when I started lifting (and very lean from cycling) and ended up a lean 185 at the end of college. I'm currently a fat 200 pounds, at 5'9" although I started bicycle racing regularly again, and my weight has been dropping about 1-2 pounds a week.


I only weight lift now to maintain bone mass and general strength. It's like brushing your teeth, haha.

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Re: Dana Linn Baley is back !!!!!
« Reply #57 on: May 26, 2021, 12:49:07 PM »

I completely agree. I made my biggest jump in year 1 of regular lifting, which was in college. Years 2 and on were minimal. At most I'd say i gained 20-25 pounds. I was 160 when I started lifting (and very lean from cycling) and ended up a lean 185 at the end of college. I'm currently a fat 200 pounds, at 5'9" although I started bicycle racing regularly again, and my weight has been dropping about 1-2 pounds a week.


I only weight lift now to maintain bone mass and general strength. It's like brushing your teeth, haha.
You had me at: "maintaining bone mass".  PM sent.

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« Reply #58 on: May 26, 2021, 01:43:21 PM »
You had me at: "maintaining bone mass".  PM sent.


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Re: Dana Linn Baley is back !!!!!
« Reply #59 on: May 26, 2021, 01:51:09 PM »
oldies but goodies.


My late brother (my youngest of all) used to say this about women.  "You want to know how you can improve ANY woman's looks?  Put my dick in her mouth, that's how!"

Sadly he died long before DLB came on the scene.  Dat bitch be FUGLY.