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Re: Is New York City Open For Business?
« Reply #25 on: July 09, 2021, 09:54:41 AM »
It can be miserable anywhere, but one of the reasons people love this city is because there is so much great stuff to do regardless of how much money you have. Most NYers aren't as obsessed with Manhattan being the end all as people outside of it. If you are under 40 and have an active social life, there's a good chance you spend a lot of time in Brooklyn.

I don't think Brooklyn is all that different from living in Philly or Chicago.  Manhattan is the only place that seemed different to me.

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Re: Is New York City Open For Business?
« Reply #26 on: July 09, 2021, 10:16:51 AM »
I don't think Brooklyn is all that different from living in Philly or Chicago.  Manhattan is the only place that seemed different to me.

Given my current station in  life I no longer have any desire to live in NYC. However, amongst people who matter, i.e. people with money, NYC is one of the most desirable places in the world to live. Even in the outer-boroughs, relatively small residences can easily go for $1M in the more desirable neighborhoods.

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Re: Is New York City Open For Business?
« Reply #27 on: July 09, 2021, 10:25:45 AM »
I don't think Brooklyn is all that different from living in Philly or Chicago.  Manhattan is the only place that seemed different to me.

The “Coolest” part of Brooklyn is Williamsburg and it’s so popular largely because of its proximity to Manhattan.

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Re: Is New York City Open For Business?
« Reply #28 on: July 09, 2021, 11:08:36 AM »
The “Coolest” part of Brooklyn is Williamsburg and it’s so popular largely because of its proximity to Manhattan.

There's nothing cool about williamsburg, no one goes there. Coolest part of brooklyn is Bushwick\bedstuy, Williamsburg is all bankers and trust fund babies, when has that ever been cool

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Re: Is New York City Open For Business?
« Reply #29 on: July 09, 2021, 11:10:25 AM »
I don't think Brooklyn is all that different from living in Philly or Chicago.  Manhattan is the only place that seemed different to me.

did you live here? you have to live here to get it. To me and well anyone under 40 Manhattan is old world fun, you go there for work maybe a date or 2 but it's certainly not "hip" or the place to be seen

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Re: Is New York City Open For Business?
« Reply #30 on: July 09, 2021, 12:20:08 PM »
did you live here? you have to live here to get it. To me and well anyone under 40 Manhattan is old world fun, you go there for work maybe a date or 2 but it's certainly not "hip" or the place to be seen

I was in Queens but didn't have money.  Park Slope seemed nice, but not necessarily unique compared to other big cities. 

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Re: Is New York City Open For Business?
« Reply #32 on: July 10, 2021, 12:48:07 PM »
This is the first video of  Rossman's I saw.  He explains why non-millionaires don't feel like they belong in NY.  Rossman has lived in New York city his entire life.  What is your opinion of this video?

NYC imposter syndrome explained: that lingering feeling non-millionaires don't belong here.



Let me ask you, would you be interested in a really long post with my thoughts on Rossman, why i think the video of him walking down 6th ave is sort of deceiving and why I think NYC's recovery has to be gauged differently than the rest of the country?  I actually don't live that far from where that video was shot and the business devastation is real, but there's some nuance to it IMO. The reason I ask is because, in the past, people have accused me of being a windbag in debates and whatnot, and even by my standards it would be a long post that I'm not even sure anyone would actually be interested in.

A no is fine- wouldn't even take it as an insult- would just answer your question about that imposter Rossman vid in  a shorter post.

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Re: Is New York City Open For Business?
« Reply #33 on: July 10, 2021, 01:04:08 PM »
Let me ask you, would you be interested in a really long post with my thoughts on Rossman, why i think the video of him walking down 6th ave is sort of deceiving and why I think NYC's recovery has to be gauged differently than the rest of the country?  I actually don't live that far from where that video was shot and the business devastation is real, but there's some nuance to it IMO. The reason I ask is because, in the past, people have accused me of being a windbag in debates and whatnot, and even by my standards it would be a long post that I'm not even sure anyone would actually be interested in.

A no is fine- wouldn't even take it as an insult- would just answer your question about that imposter Rossman vid in  a shorter post.


Yes.

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Re: Is New York City Open For Business?
« Reply #34 on: July 10, 2021, 01:35:30 PM »
I don't think Brooklyn is all that different from living in Philly or Chicago.  Manhattan is the only place that seemed different to me.

That is by design, though.  Some areas are meant to feel more residential  because of city planning. In general, outer boroughs are cheaper than central Manhattan (or at least you get more for your money), but that's not the only reason people choose them. For a lot of people , it is about having a less hectic homelife while still needing to have reasonable access to Manhattan. For others they are just  the neighborhoods they like. This is just in reference to the "it's miserable unless you have a lot of money and are in manhattan" part of your previous post. Every new yorker is not chasing the same lifestyle. There was a post where someone said that cops could never afford to live in midtown manhattan so that's why they live in jersey, but cops don't  only work in midtown, they work in queens and staten island and the bronx, so why would midtown manhattan be the only part of the city suitable for them to live in?

 It is a business city, but it is also a city of creatives.  If you have friends in entertainment or media- even if they are broke- it still results in there always being something to do that doesn't cost much.

 I have a friend who is a chef. He lives in LA now, but he lived and worked here in NYC for about a decade. He was visiting NYC in 2019  and invited me and my wife out to dinner. In all of the time I've known him, he has always looked out and invited me to comp meals at whatever restaurants he was working at, but this night was special. He took us on a tour of 3 different michelin starred restaurants (one of which was in brooklyn) and we didn't pay for shit. It was all his connections from working in the industry. The restaurants we went to weren't restaurants he worked at, they were restaurants  his colleagues and peers migrated to. They treated us like royalty. That's just one example. I started using weed last year and a few weeks ago I met my plug at his apartment and a friend came with me because his plug wasn't responding so he wanted to connect with my plug. Anyway this friend of mine is a videographer and editor and when we get to plug's apartment he wants us to hear some music he's working on. Plug and friend get to talking and decide they are going to work on a project together. Plug gave him a q for free, homie said he'd give him reasonable price for some good content. Stuff like this happens everywhere, but stuff like that is a big part of how people interact in NYC.

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Re: Is New York City Open For Business?
« Reply #35 on: July 10, 2021, 01:36:47 PM »

Yes.

Cool. Will try to post either tonight or tomorrow. 

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Re: Is New York City Open For Business?
« Reply #36 on: July 12, 2021, 02:14:43 PM »
NYC is in the process of "reopening" - but will the businesses come back? Many were on the way out long before COVID-19, and the rate of closures & vacancies does not appear to be going down.


NYC: A documentary of urban decay



'Life after people' TV series predicted NYC future !.

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Re: Is New York City Open For Business?
« Reply #37 on: July 16, 2021, 05:32:43 PM »

Yes.

When I offered to do a long post about  my perspective on things here in NYC, I knew it was going to be tricky for me to carve out the time to actually write it, but I was unexpectedly busy this week, so I still haven't gotten around to starting it. I still plan on doing it, but there's a lot I want to cover and I would rather it all be in one post or a group of posts, rather than piecemeal. None of it is really time sensitive, so it will still be relevant in a week or two, if there's any interest.

However, I do want to just answer the question about Rossman real quick. Because I clicked on the videos in this thread, he's been showing up in my youtube recs again.  Rossman first came to my attention a few years ago because of his right to repair vids. He had an interesting perspective and it was something that I didn't think was  talked about enough at the time. He started popping up in my recs again earlier this year because of his vids on robinhood/gamestop/amc debacle.  I checked out a few of the other vids he was making at the time and I remember thinking "Hmm, I wonder if he's going to move to texas, florida or vegas soon?" I was not surprised when he announced that he was doing that.

I think Rossman may genuinely be frustrated living in NYC right now, but I also think there's a certain amount of theater to his videos. Like the vid posted upthread titled  "Imposter Syndrome". I didn't watch the whole thing, but I scrolled through and he seems to mainly be talking about his specific experience renting in a crappy building from a crappy landlord. Yes, crappy building management is not rare here, but what he's describing is not a universal experience. Not even for people renting commercial spaces. But more importantly than the fact that I don't think he's actually describing imposter syndrome in that video, I don't understand how it's something he experienced on a daily basis.  In this video I'm linking, he goes on a tour of the neighborhood his old store is located in.

It's accurate that the neighborhood is currently in shambles(particularly from a commercial vacancy perspective). But even at it's best, this is not a fancy area. He walks south in this video, but directly across the street to the north from where this video starts is one of the largest rent-stabilized complexes in Manhattan called Stuytown/PCV. It's not the projects, it's subsidized housing that was originally intended for veterans and their families, but anyone can live their now. The apartments are massive, the rent is subsidized and  the complex contains parks and playgrounds, greenery, dedicated gyms and stores  and a parking complex and it's not even that difficult to get into. It takes up about 10 square city blocks. Some people would describe it as idyllic, but it is solidly working class. I believe there is an upper income limit for people to live there. My point is that this place sets the tone of that area. It's one of the most affordable areas in Manhattan below 96th street. There is no way he was experiencing Imposter Syndrome with a repair shop in this neighborhood and then walking back home to his neighborhood in brooklyn. 

Another reason  I'm linking to this particular video is because of the blog he links to in the caption:
https://evgrieve.com/2021/07/week-in-grieview_0153026712.html
The post I linked on the blog is a roundup of real estate/ commercial happenings in the area Rossman's business was located.
I want to draw your attention to 4 posts in particular- the one about Evil Katsu, the one about Dim Sum Go Go, the one about Fun city tattoo, and the one about Stuyvesant Gourmet Deli. These are all pretty clear situations where people are expanding due to a depressed commercial rental market, but the  one about the deli is the most interesting to me, because I have seen so many versions of it playing out: businesses "closing permanently" and then essentially relocating as little as a few feet away for better deals, nicer spaces, etc.

This is why I'm a little suspicious of Rossman. My brain cannot wrap my mind around how he can't be doing better now than pre-pandemic. He runs a tech repair shop and has had a significant social media following for years. That alone should give him a pretty stable business. He should be able to do exclusively mail order and appointments and  still be turning away business.  (A friend of my wife's started doing packed lunches for her bf's coworkers and  one of her tiktoks blew up and  she's up to about 20 orders a day, which is all she can handle.) Yet anytime I hear him talk about his business, it sounds like it's on the verge of collapse. I don't get how he hasn't been able to negotiate a better space, even if he would have to go through a second party.  To a certain degree, I feel like his content is more designed for people who want to see the endpoint of how*** liberalism ruined New York***.

And a version of that story is there to tell. I just think it's way more nuanced. I also think when you look at how things are playing out and the history of this city, it's pretty obvious this is a temporary state. About half of the people who worked in Manhattan prepandemic didn't live here- they travelled in each day from other boroughs or even out of state. The way Manhattan works is pretty different from pretty much everywhere else in America, in that our business districts are also heavily populated residential districts.
 
(but I'll get into those things another time.)

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Re: Is New York City Open For Business?
« Reply #38 on: July 16, 2021, 06:02:05 PM »
JP Morgan seems to think NYC has a future:


JPMorgan sticks with plan to build giant New York headquarters | Article [AMP] | Reuters


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-jpmorgan-results-realestate-idUSKBN26Y2HP

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Re: Is New York City Open For Business?
« Reply #39 on: July 17, 2021, 06:32:10 AM »

I think Rossman may genuinely be frustrated living in NYC right now, but I also think there's a certain amount of theater to his videos. Like the vid posted upthread titled  "Imposter Syndrome". I didn't watch the whole thing, but I scrolled through and he seems to mainly be talking about his specific experience renting in a crappy building from a crappy landlord. Yes, crappy building management is not rare here, but what he's describing is not a universal experience. Not even for people renting commercial spaces. But more importantly than the fact that I don't think he's actually describing imposter syndrome in that video, I don't understand how it's something he experienced on a daily basis.  In this video I'm linking, he goes on a tour of the neighborhood his old store is located in.
 

I think you missed understood his point about imposter syndrome.

He basically believes you have to be a millionaire to live in New York city, and if you are not, you don't belong and are an imposter that needs to use many tricks and hussles just to live in the city because you don't belong.  Rossman has lived in NYC his entire life and still feels like he doesn't belong.  The video is a little long but he gives multiple examples throughout his life where he had to cheat the system just to get by.






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Re: Is New York City Open For Business?
« Reply #40 on: July 17, 2021, 07:08:42 AM »
I think you missed understood his point about imposter syndrome.

He basically believes you have to be a millionaire to live in New York city, and if you are not, you don't belong and are an imposter that needs to use many tricks and hussles just to live in the city because you don't belong.  Rossman has lived in NYC his entire life and still feels like he doesn't belong.  The video is a little long but he gives multiple examples throughout his life where he had to cheat the system just to get by.

new york city is whatever you make of it, you think the artists in bushwick care about what people are doing on the upper east\west side? or the guidos in bayside care about what's trendy on 5th ave?

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Re: Is New York City Open For Business?
« Reply #41 on: July 17, 2021, 07:42:53 AM »
I think you missed understood his point about imposter syndrome.

He basically believes you have to be a millionaire to live in New York city, and if you are not, you don't belong and are an imposter that needs to use many tricks and hussles just to live in the city because you don't belong.  Rossman has lived in NYC his entire life and still feels like he doesn't belong.  The video is a little long but he gives multiple examples throughout his life where he had to cheat the system just to get by.


NYC is majority black and Hispanic.

He left out the “White” part. If you’re white and not a millionaire…

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Re: Is New York City Open For Business?
« Reply #42 on: July 17, 2021, 07:44:19 AM »
Al D - I jumped in your post at the point where you started talking about Sty Town and immediately have to question your knowledge of Manhattan. Sty Town has been transitioning to market rate for over a decade now and will eventually go full market rate. The Sty Town you’re describing no longer exists as the complex becomes majority market-rate. It’s essentially becoming another Battery Park City. In the next few years it will fully transition to wealthy whites who are paying market rate for the apartments. So called “middle-class” enclaves don’t really exist in Manhattan. And when I say middle-class I’m talking about $150-$200K household (family of 4) income.

In any case, don’t be fooled by closed up storefronts. In a lot of cases these spots are just being warehoused by developers waiting for better opportunities. NYC is far from dead.

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Re: Is New York City Open For Business?
« Reply #43 on: July 17, 2021, 07:53:33 AM »


NYC is majority black and Hispanic.

He left out the “White” part. If you’re white and not a millionaire…

what? nyc is like 50% white

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Re: Is New York City Open For Business?
« Reply #44 on: July 17, 2021, 07:57:15 AM »
NYC is majority minority (Asian, Black and Hispanic). However, it’s pretty segregated despite the diversity.

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Re: Is New York City Open For Business?
« Reply #45 on: July 17, 2021, 08:03:44 AM »
White libtards, the Major-Cucks of the West. They fight for BBC rights!

This piece of shot creep is a major part of the problem

He wouldn’t like that I had a big black fuck spraying blood from his face a few weeks ago after a few nice uppercuts

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Re: Is New York City Open For Business?
« Reply #47 on: July 17, 2021, 08:31:27 AM »
NYC is majority minority (Asian, Black and Hispanic). However, it’s pretty segregated despite the diversity.

Exactly, the guy is saying you have to be a millionaire to live in NYC. It’s not true. He just doesn’t want to live in a minority neighborhood.

The city's population in 2010 was 44% White (33.3% non-Hispanic White), 25.5% Black or African American (23% non-Hispanic Black), 0.7% Native American or Alaska Native, and 12.7% Asian.[266] Hispanics or Latinos of any race represented 28.6% of the population

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Re: Is New York City Open For Business?
« Reply #48 on: July 17, 2021, 10:21:41 AM »
I think you missed understood his point about imposter syndrome.

He basically believes you have to be a millionaire to live in New York city, and if you are not, you don't belong and are an imposter that needs to use many tricks and hussles just to live in the city because you don't belong.  Rossman has lived in NYC his entire life and still feels like he doesn't belong.  The video is a little long but he gives multiple examples throughout his life where he had to cheat the system just to get by.

That's possible. Like I said, I didn't watch the entire video I just scrolled through to get a sense of what he was talking about. It's possible I skipped over every time he gave an example that made sense of what he was talking about. If you're willing to post time stamps of a few examples, I'd definitely be interested.