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https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2021/08/new-covid-variants-epsilon-lambda-may-be-resistant-to-vaccines-early-lab-studies-show.html

"The Epsilon and Lambda variants of COVID-19 are “variants of interest,” according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), and early studies show they have developed a resistance to vaccines.

Japanese researchers found the Lambda variant, which was initially discovered in Peru and is now spreading throughout South America, is highly transmissible and more resistant to vaccines than the initial COVID-19 strain."

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Re: New COVID variants Epsilon, Lambda may be resistant to vaccines...
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2021, 05:11:07 AM »
This just gets sillier by the day.

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Re: New COVID variants Epsilon, Lambda may be resistant to vaccines...
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2021, 12:55:07 PM »
This just gets sillier by the day.
Absolutely!
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Re: New COVID variants Epsilon, Lambda may be resistant to vaccines...
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2021, 01:05:55 PM »
Attempts to study for immunology learns the greek alphabet ...

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Re: New COVID variants Epsilon, Lambda may be resistant to vaccines...
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2021, 01:27:49 PM »
DIdn't they just announce some mess about a Delta Plus variant, a couple of hours ago?

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Re: New COVID variants Epsilon, Lambda may be resistant to vaccines...
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2021, 01:32:09 PM »
DIdn't they just announce some mess about a Delta Plus variant, a couple of hours ago?

They have to keep planning ahead to keep the control, fear and "jabs" coming.

I'm wondering how they're going to spin getting the vaccines whie data is showing  them to  becoming less and less effective.

Doesn't take the a doctorate in medicine to see that's already happening. I know MSM and the Harris administration are denying this, but it appears the delta variant is already breaking through the vaccines.


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Re: New COVID variants Epsilon, Lambda may be resistant to vaccines...
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2021, 02:25:08 PM »
It’s beyond insane. Inject experimental drugs that don’t work while accepting unknown long term health issues let alone the short term ones. Mandate them, coerce, or in Australia’s case….. keep us in lockdown until we all get it. I am filled with rage right now.

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Re: New COVID variants Epsilon, Lambda may be resistant to vaccines...
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2021, 02:30:10 PM »
Fraternities hardest hit.

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Re: New COVID variants Epsilon, Lambda may be resistant to vaccines...
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2021, 02:49:52 PM »
It’s beyond insane. Inject experimental drugs that don’t work while accepting unknown long term health issues let alone the short term ones. Mandate them, coerce, or in Australia’s case….. keep us in lockdown until we all get it. I am filled with rage right now.

As you should be Booty. World is getting more retarded by the minute...

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Re: New COVID variants Epsilon, Lambda may be resistant to vaccines...
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2021, 02:53:08 PM »
Covid FUD.

Delta is still the top dog

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Re: New COVID variants Epsilon, Lambda may be resistant to vaccines...
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2021, 03:26:52 PM »
Clown. World.

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Re: New COVID variants Epsilon, Lambda may be resistant to vaccines...
« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2021, 03:48:17 PM »
Clown. World.

Correct again, my friend.  When these assclowns have their filthy pets turn on them they will rue  the day they squealed to have Animal Control defunded.  FTN.

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Re: New COVID variants Epsilon, Lambda may be resistant to vaccines...
« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2021, 04:03:23 PM »
This just gets sillier by the day.

Delta is just one of the 24 letters in the Greek alphabet.  There's no end in sight.  ::)

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Re: New COVID variants Epsilon, Lambda may be resistant to vaccines...
« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2021, 04:54:14 PM »
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Re: New COVID variants Epsilon, Lambda may be resistant to vaccines...
« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2021, 05:00:43 PM »
It’s beyond insane. Inject experimental drugs that don’t work while accepting unknown long term health issues let alone the short term ones. Mandate them, coerce, or in Australia’s case….. keep us in lockdown until we all get it. I am filled with rage right now.
"Australians could soon be required to show proof of vaccination to enter pubs, grocery stores and sports stadiums, under a plan being considered by national cabinet."
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/australian-leaders-are-considering-mandatory-covid-19-vaccination-passes-how-would-they-work

"While the Prime Minister said mandating vaccines is “not the policy of the government”, he said that employers can give a “reasonable directive” to their staff, provided it complies with discrimination law."
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/scott-morrison-rules-out-mandatory-covid-19-vaccine-policy-says-employers-must-make-their-own-decisions

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Re: New COVID variants Epsilon, Lambda may be resistant to vaccines...
« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2021, 05:40:16 PM »
"Australians could soon be required to show proof of vaccination to enter pubs, grocery stores and sports stadiums, under a plan being considered by national cabinet."
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/australian-leaders-are-considering-mandatory-covid-19-vaccination-passes-how-would-they-work

"While the Prime Minister said mandating vaccines is “not the policy of the government”, he said that employers can give a “reasonable directive” to their staff, provided it complies with discrimination law."
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/scott-morrison-rules-out-mandatory-covid-19-vaccine-policy-says-employers-must-make-their-own-decisions
Yes I watched his update last night. This prime minister is a master at getting others to do his dirty work. It’s against the constitution here to coerce or force mandatory vaccination. So he’s getting businesses to mandate it instead. There will be a lot of back lash. Companies mandating it will need to accept that it can backfire. Pubs and cafes that enforce it will lose customers. With all the lockdowns I doubt they will want to lose more business. If someone attains a life threatening side affect, they could face legal issues. I think they are kind of bluffing and hoping that people will think they have to get it. Many people won’t buckle under this though. We are already fed up with constant lockdowns and people are beginning to revolt. I will no longer purchase any SPC products. I don’t need pubs, cafes etc and I will purchase my groceries online or support local smaller businesses. A lot of people will dig their heals in.

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Re: New COVID variants Epsilon, Lambda may be resistant to vaccines...
« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2021, 05:40:55 PM »

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Re: New COVID variants Epsilon, Lambda may be resistant to vaccines...
« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2021, 05:48:43 PM »
Yes I watched his update last night. This prime minister is a master at getting others to do his dirty work. It’s against the constitution here to coerce or force mandatory vaccination. So he’s getting businesses to mandate it instead. There will be a lot of back lash. Companies mandating it will need to accept that it can backfire. Pubs and cafes that enforce it will lose customers. With all the lockdowns I doubt they will want to lose more business. If someone attains a life threatening side affect, they could face legal issues. I think they are kind of bluffing and hoping that people will think they have to get it. Many people won’t buckle under this though. We are already fed up with constant lockdowns and people are beginning to revolt. I will no longer purchase any SPC products. I don’t need pubs, cafes etc and I will purchase my groceries online or support local smaller businesses. A lot of people will dig their heals in.
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Re: New COVID variants Epsilon, Lambda may be resistant to vaccines...
« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2021, 07:42:07 PM »
It’s beyond insane. Inject experimental drugs that don’t work while accepting unknown long term health issues let alone the short term ones. Mandate them, coerce, or in Australia’s case….. keep us in lockdown until we all get it. I am filled with rage right now.

Don't get the vaccine for all I care but goddamn this is just plain stupid.


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Re: New COVID variants Epsilon, Lambda may be resistant to vaccines...
« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2021, 07:59:53 PM »
Don't get the vaccine for all I care but goddamn this is just plain stupid.
Why is it stupid??  I am more afraid of the unknown sides. I had a anaphylactic episode when I got the contrast media dye. I was sick for 3 months afterwards. I also had a miserable time with a 660 gram uterine fibroid. I can’t go through more heavy periods and I know that’s one of a well known side affect. I also have seen the data from the Japanese and I don’t want spike proteins in every part of me. Looking at what’s occurring with all these populated vaccinated people, it appears the vaccine isn’t doing what they hoped. It looks pretty useless. I am not listening to propaganda so much and more of the likes of Robert Malone and even Geert Vande Bosche. What he’s predicted is pretty much playing out now with all the escaped mutant variants.

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Re: New COVID variants Epsilon, Lambda may be resistant to vaccines...
« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2021, 09:51:03 PM »
Why is it stupid??  I am more afraid of the unknown sides. I had a anaphylactic episode when I got the contrast media dye. I was sick for 3 months afterwards. I also had a miserable time with a 660 gram uterine fibroid. I can’t go through more heavy periods and I know that’s one of a well known side affect. I also have seen the data from the Japanese and I don’t want spike proteins in every part of me. Looking at what’s occurring with all these populated vaccinated people, it appears the vaccine isn’t doing what they hoped. It looks pretty useless. I am not listening to propaganda so much and more of the likes of Robert Malone and even Geert Vande Bosche. What he’s predicted is pretty much playing out now with all the escaped mutant variants.

If your trusted doctor advises you that the vaccine isn't right for you, who am I to argue.  I trust that you'd protect yourself via masking and proper distancing/good general decision making.  But when you spout doomsday generalizations about the vaccine, that can cost lives.  And it has and continues to cost lives.  Also, your medical reasons for not getting it I'm sure don't apply to even a quarter of the worlds population.  If everyone that could safely get it goes out and gets it, we'll have herd immunity and stomp this thing out in short order.  The longer it kicks around and lingers the more it mutates and the more it mutates, the more deadly it gets.  Now, the average age of covid ICU patients is 42.  Younger kids are getting sicker from Delta than the original.  By Halloween or Thanksgiving we may have a child covid calamity on our hands. 

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Re: New COVID variants Epsilon, Lambda may be resistant to vaccines...
« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2021, 10:03:33 PM »
If your trusted doctor advises you that the vaccine isn't right for you, who am I to argue.  I trust that you'd protect yourself via masking and proper distancing/good general decision making.  But when you spout doomsday generalizations about the vaccine, that can cost lives.  And it has and continues to cost lives.  Also, your medical reasons for not getting it I'm sure don't apply to even a quarter of the worlds population.  If everyone that could safely get it goes out and gets it, we'll have herd immunity and stomp this thing out in short order.  The longer it kicks around and lingers the more it mutates and the more it mutates, the more deadly it gets.  Now, the average age of covid ICU patients is 42.  Younger kids are getting sicker from Delta than the original.  By Halloween or Thanksgiving we may have a child covid calamity on our hands.
I have a family member who has an auto immune disease. She has scarring on her lungs. Her specialist did not recommend the vaccine as he said they don’t know the long term implications. 
There are two scenarios being played. High levels of infections are leading to mutant variants and also vaccinating because the vaccines are leaky meaning that they don’t prevent transmission of Covid.

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Re: New COVID variants Epsilon, Lambda may be resistant to vaccines...
« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2021, 10:04:23 PM »
Why is it stupid??  I am more afraid of the unknown sides. I had a anaphylactic episode when I got the contrast media dye. I was sick for 3 months afterwards. I also had a miserable time with a 660 gram uterine fibroid. I can’t go through more heavy periods and I know that’s one of a well known side affect. I also have seen the data from the Japanese and I don’t want spike proteins in every part of me. Looking at what’s occurring with all these populated vaccinated people, it appears the vaccine isn’t doing what they hoped. It looks pretty useless. I am not listening to propaganda so much and more of the likes of Robert Malone and even Geert Vande Bosche. What he’s predicted is pretty much playing out now with all the escaped mutant variants.

The vaccines actually work better than expected. They provide antibody protection for a few months and then longer lasting vaccine induced b and t cell immunity kicks in.

It was Pfizer and Moderna marketing that overhyped their vaccines. Why? Because there were far cheaper alternative vaccines that work almost as well. Other vaccines didn't make the same claims.

These vaccines were always meant to just "train" the immune system. Not provide blanket protection.

Also there are no "escaped mutant variants".

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Re: New COVID variants Epsilon, Lambda may be resistant to vaccines...
« Reply #23 on: August 06, 2021, 10:05:25 PM »
If your trusted doctor advises you that the vaccine isn't right for you, who am I to argue.  I trust that you'd protect yourself via masking and proper distancing/good general decision making.  But when you spout doomsday generalizations about the vaccine, that can cost lives.  And it has and continues to cost lives.  Also, your medical reasons for not getting it I'm sure don't apply to even a quarter of the worlds population.  If everyone that could safely get it goes out and gets it, we'll have herd immunity and stomp this thing out in short order.  The longer it kicks around and lingers the more it mutates and the more it mutates, the more deadly it gets.  Now, the average age of covid ICU patients is 42.  Younger kids are getting sicker from Delta than the original.  By Halloween or Thanksgiving we may have a child covid calamity on our hands.

Didn't read. Not taking the vax. Not wearing the mask. Suck it.

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Re: New COVID variants Epsilon, Lambda may be resistant to vaccines...
« Reply #24 on: August 06, 2021, 10:08:24 PM »
The vaccines actually work better than expected. They provide antibody protection for a few months and then longer lasting vaccine induced b and t cell immunity kicks in.

It was Pfizer and Moderna marketing that overhyped their vaccines. Why? Because there were far cheaper alternative vaccines that work almost as well. Other vaccines didn't make the same claims.

These vaccines were always meant to just "train" the immune system. Not provide blanket protection.

Also there are no "escaped mutant variants".
If there are no escaped mutant variants, then it’s just doing what it does naturally. So therefore getting vaccinated is an individual thing designed to give some immunity. This sounds reasonable and simple. I choose not to take the vaccine.