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Re: Mike Mentzer bisexual and meth addict ? WTF !
« Reply #375 on: August 28, 2026, 06:58:56 AM »
Arnold was/is BI  & he no doubt had some wild sessions with Paul  :D

Arnold had his moments, lol

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Re: Mike Mentzer bisexual and meth addict ? WTF !
« Reply #376 on: August 28, 2026, 07:17:18 AM »
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Re: Mike Mentzer bisexual and meth addict ? WTF !
« Reply #377 on: August 29, 2026, 01:45:43 AM »
just doing low reps is never really going to get enough blood in and stretch the fibres which is all that bodybuilding really is

You aint growing any new fibres, you just need to get as much blood in there to stretch them out

Most peoples best bodypart is the one they get the best pump in
the fibers do not stretch from blood. They grow from "repairing" and adapting to new found stress and strength demand.

However I do believe that blood volume adaptation in the muscle is also a factor but I think that is more to do with intra muscular vascularity and the muscle somehow adapting to increased blood/oxygen demand, but that is not the muscle fiber itself, imo.
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« Reply #378 on: August 29, 2026, 02:02:22 AM »
Arnold had his moments, lol
Yeah..remember the story about him telling people he needed some quick dough, went & visited some old schmoe
came back a while later with the Dough  :-X
the Arnold Groupies on here still refuse to accept that he was just a rent boy for rich schmoes

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« Reply #379 on: August 29, 2026, 07:50:12 AM »
the fibers do not stretch from blood. They grow from "repairing" and adapting to new found stress and strength demand.

However I do believe that blood volume adaptation in the muscle is also a factor but I think that is more to do with intra muscular vascularity and the muscle somehow adapting to increased blood/oxygen demand, but that is not the muscle fiber itself, imo.
You are talking to a bodybuilder who competed for decades.

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« Reply #380 on: August 29, 2026, 11:20:32 AM »
You are talking to a bodybuilder who competed for decades.
Rofl  ;D ;D ;D :P
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« Reply #381 on: August 29, 2026, 12:07:42 PM »
Arnold had his moments, lol

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Re: Mike Mentzer bisexual and meth addict ? WTF !
« Reply #382 on: August 29, 2026, 12:15:24 PM »
the fibers do not stretch from blood. They grow from "repairing" and adapting to new found stress and strength demand.

However I do believe that blood volume adaptation in the muscle is also a factor but I think that is more to do with intra muscular vascularity and the muscle somehow adapting to increased blood/oxygen demand, but that is not the muscle fiber itself, imo.

Right.

There is a pseudo-scientific term for this called "sarcoplasmic hypertrophy" that they speculate can add considerable size to a bodybuilder's muscle. Non-protein size: blood, water, temporary fluid due to training inflammation and due to drugs and so on. It's not something that has ever been measured as far as I know.

A bodybuilder's muscle is not all "sarcoplasma" as you say.

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« Reply #383 on: August 30, 2026, 12:38:06 AM »
Right.

There is a pseudo-scientific term for this called "sarcoplasmic hypertrophy" that they speculate can add considerable size to a bodybuilder's muscle. Non-protein size: blood, water, temporary fluid due to training inflammation and due to drugs and so on. It's not something that has ever been measured as far as I know.

A bodybuilder's muscle is not all "sarcoplasma" as you say.
Yes, and we all know a "pump" can add an inch or in some individuals even more on an arm.

When you increase blood volume and blood pressure from AAS you pretty much walk around with a constant pump. But other than that pump there are likely other factors which increase the volume. Like increased intra-muscular vascularity and so on. You can clearly see on bodybuilders the expanded vascularity on the surface skin.

Like an extreme example of this vasculariy increase is Nick Walker. But then you can imagine all the intra-muscular vascularity he also has. Along with the increased blood volume and increased bloodpressure from steroids. And as you say maybe some inflammation and other factors which I may not know or accounted for.
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« Reply #384 on: August 30, 2026, 07:23:32 AM »
intra-muscular vascularity

I remember certain drugs like nicotine promote angiogenesis, though it can be bad if you have cancers and tumors. I remember reading about nicotine having been patented as an anabolic drug. Maybe the ED drugs could assist muscle growth this way as well, lots of lifters already use daily Cialis, I do too :D


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« Reply #385 on: August 30, 2026, 01:36:12 PM »
Right.

There is a pseudo-scientific term for this called "sarcoplasmic hypertrophy" that they speculate can add considerable size to a bodybuilder's muscle. Non-protein size: blood, water, temporary fluid due to training inflammation and due to drugs and so on. It's not something that has ever been measured as far as I know.

A bodybuilder's muscle is not all "sarcoplasma" as you say.
Fuck.. also i forget the obvious, AAS and also(especially) insulin increases glycogen storage within the muscle. Which is the muscles ability to hold water basically
Because for every one gram of glycogen, three grams of water gets stored within the muscle.

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« Reply #386 on: August 30, 2026, 01:44:47 PM »
Some litterature on that

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Anabolic-androgenous steroids (AAS) can influence muscle glycogen storage by enhancing the activity of key synthetic enzymes like glycogen synthase and increasing carbohydrate retention within skeletal muscle tissue.
Effects of AAS on GlycogenEnzyme
Activity: AAS use combined with training can increase glycogen synthetase activity in specific skeletal and cardiac muscle fibers.
Water Retention: Increased glycogen storage leads to greater intramuscular water retention, as each gram of stored glycogen binds to roughly three to four grams of water.
Tissue Specificity: Research indicates that the degree of glycogen supercompensation from steroids often varies significantly depending on the specific muscle group and concurrent training status.

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Muscles store glycogen as large, branched chains of glucose inside their cellular fluid (cytoplasm) to use as a local energy source during physical activity.

The Storage ProcessGlucose entry: Glucose enters the muscle cells from your blood, a process helped by the hormone insulin after you eat.

Quick change: An enzyme named hexokinase changes the glucose into glucose-6-phosphate so it stays trapped inside the muscle cell.

Building blocks: A starter protein called glycogenin builds a tiny base chain.Chain growth: An enzyme called glycogen synthase adds more and more glucose molecules to grow the large glycogen structure.

Branching: A branching enzyme creates side-branches. This tree-like shape lets the muscle attach and release glucose very quickly when you need fast energy.

Where It Lives in the Muscle

Muscles keep glycogen in three specific micro-locations depending on what kind of work the tissue does:

Intermyofibrillar (~75%): Sits between the contracting muscle strands to power long, steady movements like distance running.

Intramyofibrillar (5–15%): Sits deep inside the contractile units to drive fast, explosive movements like sprinting.

Subsarcolemmal (5–15%): Lies just beneath the outer cell membrane to support basic cellular maintenance and low-intensity activity.Unlike liver glycogen, which is released into the bloodstream to keep your whole body's blood sugar stable, muscle glycogen is locked in and used exclusively by the muscle cells where it is stored.
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Re: Mike Mentzer bisexual and meth addict ? WTF !
« Reply #387 on: August 30, 2026, 02:35:42 PM »
the fibers do not stretch from blood. They grow from "repairing" and adapting to new found stress and strength demand.

However I do believe that blood volume adaptation in the muscle is also a factor but I think that is more to do with intra muscular vascularity and the muscle somehow adapting to increased blood/oxygen demand, but that is not the muscle fiber itself, imo.

there is a reason that bodybuilders can go from 180lb out of shape after being off drugs to 215lbs withing 2 months when they go back on, and it isnt muscles repairing and getting stronger, its fibres expanding back to their former size.

If we gained any new muscle we wouldnt suddenly lose it in 6 months when we stopped lifting.

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Re: Mike Mentzer bisexual and meth addict ? WTF !
« Reply #388 on: August 30, 2026, 02:36:09 PM »
Fuck.. also i forget the obvious, AAS and also(especially) insulin increases glycogen storage within the muscle. Which is the muscles ability to hold water basically
Because for every one gram of glycogen, three grams of water gets stored within the muscle.

Yup and creatine stores also increase from steroids which pulls in further water.

When doing a regular training routine I believe there's a level of extra fluid in the muscle (as well as subcutaneous) due to inflammation. Contest bodybuilders often stop leg training 10-14 days out because they believe training could obscure some cuts due to the water retained. Well, anyone who lifts knows you lose a bit of muscle 'tone' if away from the gym more than a week or so, you lose the temporary water.

An advanced bodybuilder going from clean and untrained to enhanced while lifting could gain 30lbs of "muscle" in a month, it can be extremely drastic and impressive. Could be dangerous too if too many PEDs are put in overnight and there's a large amount of extra-muscular water retained.  I say extra-muscular instead of intracellular vs not because intra-muscular water may be extra-cellular but still "in the muscle." Perhaps seems like a minor point but I think the distinction may be worth noting. I could easily put on 20lbs+ in a week on Anadrol, insulin and GH while loading carbs.

there is a reason that bodybuilders can go from 180lb out of shape after being off drugs to 215lbs withing 2 months when they go back on, and it isnt muscles repairing and getting stronger, its fibres expanding back to their former size.

If we gained any new muscle we wouldnt suddenly lose it in 6 months when we stopped lifting.

Yes but there's an increase in muscle protein too, new "muscle tissue" Steroid size looks different from creatine pure water gains, certain muscles hypertrophy more like the shoulder/trap area. Due to higher androgen receptor density.

Permanent new architecture from steroids:

1. The Myonuclear Domain & Cellular Memory

Skeletal muscle cells are unique because they are multi-nucleated (they contain many nuclei per cell). When muscles grow via resistance training or steroid exposure, new nuclei (myonuclei) are donated to the muscle fiber by stem cells (satellite cells) to manage the increased muscle mass.

The Breakthrough Discovery: A seminal study published in the Journal of Physiology demonstrated that when mice were briefly exposed to steroids, their muscles acquired a vast number of new myonuclei.

Permanence After Withdrawal: Once the steroids were completely withdrawn, the muscles shrank back to normal size, but the excess myonuclei persisted long-term, showing no sign of decreasing.

The Retraining Advantage: When the muscles were later subjected to exercise again, the previously treated muscles grew at an accelerated rate (30% growth in just 6 days) compared to the control group, which showed negligible growth. The muscle cells did not need to waste time recruiting new nuclei; they just filled out the existing architecture.

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Re: Mike Mentzer bisexual and meth addict ? WTF !
« Reply #389 on: August 31, 2026, 03:11:02 AM »
Arnold posted this. Is this a real pic of Ray Mentzer?

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Re: Mike Mentzer bisexual and meth addict ? WTF !
« Reply #390 on: August 31, 2026, 04:08:15 AM »
Arnold posted this. Is this a real pic of Ray Mentzer?

Lmao! Arnold’s hair was never that thick or dark. It was more chimpanzee-like




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Re: Mike Mentzer bisexual and meth addict ? WTF !
« Reply #391 on: August 31, 2026, 04:14:08 AM »
Lmao! Arnold’s hair was never that thick

Haha I didn't even notice that. His face is shopped to look younger as well :D Must be an AI pic of Ray.

Arnold posted this and said the body goes with age but legacy and inspiration for others remains. Humble bragging and ridiculing how Ray looked vs him.

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« Reply #392 on: August 31, 2026, 02:48:19 PM »
Arnold posted this. Is this a real pic of Ray Mentzer?



Ray wishes he was that lean when he passed



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Re: Mike Mentzer bisexual and meth addict ? WTF !
« Reply #393 on: August 31, 2026, 03:06:18 PM »
Yeah..remember the story about him telling people he needed some quick dough, went & visited some old schmoe
came back a while later with the Dough  :-X
the Arnold Groupies on here still refuse to accept that he was just a rent boy for rich schmoes

Arnold could have had his days .....however, unlike Mentzer Not a single person on video or audio claiming Arnold was his rented boy" or give them a quick dough for sex.

This thread is about Larry's confessions when he was a young BBer living and paying Mentzer's rent and Mentzer wanted to take sexual advantage of him.
Yet Mentzer's groupies bring Arnold to the conversation like that will suddenly make Mentzer a more decent/sane individual.

Same with the 1980 Olympia controversy, Mentzer couldn't take being 5th place and went insane/creepy addict for 21 years until found dead alone on the floor of his studio/apartment in summer 2001.

Sure, you can say Mentzer was the best bodybuilder on stage in Sydney 1980...

But Mentzer's nuthuggers just keep the "Arnold gay thing" they remember hearing "somewhere" like that had anything to do with Boyer, Zane and Dickerson beating Mike as well  besides Arnold.




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Re: Mike Mentzer bisexual and meth addict ? WTF !
« Reply #394 on: September 01, 2026, 01:53:13 AM »
Arnold could have had his days .....however, unlike Mentzer Not a single person on video or audio claiming Arnold was his rented boy" or give them a quick dough for sex.

This thread is about Larry's confessions when he was a young BBer living and paying Mentzer's rent and Mentzer wanted to take sexual advantage of him.
Yet Mentzer's groupies bring Arnold to the conversation like that will suddenly make Mentzer a more decent/sane individual.

Same with the 1980 Olympia controversy, Mentzer couldn't take being 5th place and went insane/creepy addict for 21 years until found dead alone on the floor of his studio/apartment in summer 2001.

Sure, you can say Mentzer was the best bodybuilder on stage in Sydney 1980...

But Mentzer's nuthuggers just keep the "Arnold gay thing" they remember hearing "somewhere" like that had anything to do with Boyer, Zane and Dickerson beating Mike as well  besides Arnold.




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i don´t care about Mentzer nor do i train Heavy Duty style ..but you seem to be blinded by your Hero Arnold, he was Bumming Paul Graham  :D

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« Reply #395 on: September 01, 2026, 05:59:58 AM »
i don´t care about Mentzer nor do i train Heavy Duty style ..but you seem to be blinded by your Hero Arnold, he was Bumming Paul Graham  :D

At least I'm not obsessed with Arnold's sexual life like you and Royalty. .

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« Reply #396 on: September 01, 2026, 06:01:59 AM »
At least I'm not obsessed with Arnold's sexual life like you and Royalty. .

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But you are..you know it´s true  :D

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« Reply #397 on: September 01, 2026, 06:09:36 AM »
But you are..you know it´s true  :D

Pet Shop Boys posts under the gimmick “mphgrove”. He has sent me many disturbing PM’s about Arnold’s gay romantic life. I never responded.

The mphgrove account (along with his other accounts) has also regularly bumped the Mark Dugdale thread in order to feed his gay fantasies.

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« Reply #398 on: September 01, 2026, 06:17:01 AM »
Pet Shop Boys posts under the gimmick “mphgrove”. He has sent me many disturbing PM’s about Arnold’s gay romantic life.

The mphgrove account (along with his other accounts) has also regularly bumped the Mark Dugdale thread to feed his gay fantasies.
The "Pet Shop Boys" were actually a Homosexual promoting Band in the 80s.
so the fact that he defends Arnold is no surprise  :D



From their 1986 debut onward, Neil Tennant and Chris Lowe infused their electronic pop with themes relevant to gay life, often using gender-neutral pronouns or subtle irony during an era when explicit representation in mainstream pop was rare.

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« Reply #399 on: September 01, 2026, 06:30:08 AM »


The fact that Royalty "appears" and replies so fast makes me wonder if Donny and Royalty are the same thing



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