Mike Mentzer bisexual and meth addict ? WTF !

[King Shizzo]

Shizzo, can you speak on this? Is it true?

[pamith]

Meth or Joe?

Meth, very dangerous drug

[pellius]

There is a phenomenon I hear about quite often that guys who get tons of quality poon end up getting "bored" and might start banging a twink or 2

I believe this is true. When a guy is in his late teens/early twenties (and perhaps beyond) it is quite a coup to find a hottie that gives it up on demand. It takes work. And you're grateful when you get it. But say you are a rock star, pro athlete, popular actor, extremely good looking, and charismatic... getting poon is effortless.

I remember reading about Mike Jagger and his perversions. Human wants are like a black hole. It is never satisfied. For someone like Jagger getting hotties to bang at such a young age when most guys are struggling to get anything gets old. Now you want two at a time. Then you want to do things to women that most women wouldn't tolerate for regular guys. But for Mick Jagger -- anything goes. For someone like Jagger you start looking for new thrills. And, yes, that included teen or preteen girls and then eventually boys.

Unless someone is morally grounded always getting what you want whenever you want can be corrupting.

[oldschoolfan]

according to people close to mike , he was doing well for himself before he died, not hurting for money by no means. he turned himself around financially unfortunately mike had very bad habits and quit working out ,  a shame , cause at one time he looked like a million dollars .  joe weider was paying him a  150 k a year in the early 80's and he had his books that sold well, mike was the only bodybuilder of that era to approach arnold levels of popularity

[pamith]

according to people close to mike , he was doing well for himself before he died, not hurting for money by no means. he turned himself around financially unfortunately mike had very bad habits and quit working out ,  a shame , cause at one time he looked like a million dollars .  joe weider was paying him a  150 k a year in the early 80's and he had his books that sold well, mike was the only bodybuilder of that era to approach arnold levels of popularity

A true legend of the sport

[Taffin]

Meth or Joe?

So that there appears to be the absolute definition of 'hiding in plain sight'...

[pamith]

Joe didn't do anything bad he was just helping them pose better

[BayGBM]

Joe didn't do anything bad he was just helping them pose better

Um, ok. 

[oldschoolfan]

Here is another great pic of mike

[Taffin]

Joe didn't do anything bad he was just helping them pose better

Um, ok. 

[Van_Bilderass]

If you like crime stories this Larry Pollock vid is pretty funny and entertaining. Great soundtrack as well 

[oldschoolfan]

If you like crime stories this Larry Pollock vid is pretty funny and entertaining. Great soundtrack as well 

i listened to his podcast he did about mentzer,  he said mentzer was skinny and blew up fast 300 of deca every other day was his stack that was it. pollock does good interviews he seems a bit high strung though. still pretty lean. not bloated

[Pet shop boys]

Many non lifting civilians call bodybuilders gay out of envy.  Instead of working out themselves and looking good it's easier to sport a dad bod while questioning the sexuality of everyone else.

Wrong.


Maybe "non lifting civilians  see something Gayish from oiled up dudes? , shaved legs talking about glutes ,pecs, abs posing in thongs and looking themselves in the mirror  everyday ....( not saying that means gay by default ) but I can assure you the average Joe cant envy that lifestyle .

Besides, nobody out there questions sexuality more than Bodybuilders themselves within its own lame industry




WoooSHHHHH quater trun to the right Bitch !

[Van_Bilderass]

pollock does good interviews he seems a bit high strung though.

Yeah maybe high strung but also nerves of steel the way he talks about being tortured by the cartel, it made him merely "irritated." 

Mentzer being a fag is pretty disappointing. I don't doubt what Pollock said 

Interesting about Rich Piana as well, saying he was a rat who tried to set him up.

[Pet shop boys]

according to people close to mike , he was doing well for himself before he died, not hurting for money by no means. he turned himself around financially unfortunately mike had very bad habits and quit working out ,  a shame , cause at one time he looked like a million dollars .  joe weider was paying him a  150 k a year in the early 80's and he had his books that sold well, mike was the only bodybuilder of that era to approach arnold levels of popularity

So Mike was making $150.000 a year during the early 80's and not even Lee Haney was making that kind of money winning the Mr.O by the end of the decade.




WoooSHHHHHH   F A CK

[Pet shop boys]

Joe didn't do anything bad he was just helping them pose better

Actually , in the interview that started this topic, the dude says Weider loved to touch guys (rub oil) Europeans bodybuilders but wasn't really comfortable while others were "watching him doing it "





WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH  TA NA KA

[BB]

So Mike was making $150.000 a year during the early 80's and not even Lee Haney was making that kind of money winning the Mr.O by the end of the decade.




WoooSHHHHHH   F A CK

I remember an old article where he said it was between $150-200,000. Mentzer mentioned having to go to the post office with a couple of army duffel bags a week to pick up everything.

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Speaking of good articles, this one is great - https://physicalculturestudy.com/2020/04/27/peter-mcgough-the-mike-menzter-story-flex-magazine-september-2001-2/ .

You can map Mike's downfall from it.

He was using amphetamines from the late 70's - onward. He had no problem with them because they made him productive, and if he was productive then there is no problem was his line of thought.

“I was in love with being conscious – amphetamines have that effect on a lot of people. I’d read the literature on amphetamines and had never heard of any long-term physical damage, but I did know that it could possibly result in acute episodes of psychosis. I saw no problem for me because I was convinced I was focused enough and that my use was channeled in a positive direction.

“I didn’t think there was anything wrong in taking stimulants to make me work as hard as I was. A lot of people drink coffee and smoke cigarettes to stay stimulated and be productive. I was a productive genius, but I had lost sight of the fact that the body and the mind have limitations.”

Late 70's, very close to the 1980 Olympia, his mother is very sick, near death it looks like.

He almost burns himself out training for 1979 and 1980 contests.

He loses the 1979 Overall Mr. O to Zane, and goes 5th at the 1980, behind Zane and Arnold.

After the 80 O, he leaves everything having to do with Weider and The IFBB. By 1982, he's almost broke.

Early 83, Nautilus / Jones hire him and Ray for promo work. They separate after about 1/2 a year, he makes up with Weider, but leaves in late 1983 to work for start up "Workout" magazine.

He ups the amphetamines to deal with the workload.

1985 looms, and his financial backers fold "Workout". He also loses his father, who, he was tremendously close to. Cathy Gelfo would leave later that year also.

From 1985 - 1990 it would be a string of arrests and hospital commitments.

[Pet shop boys]

I remember an old article where he said it was between $150-200,000. Mentzer mentioned having to go to the post office with a couple of army duffel bags a week to pick up everything.

-------------------------

Speaking of good articles, this one is great - https://physicalculturestudy.com/2020/04/27/peter-mcgough-the-mike-menzter-story-flex-magazine-september-2001-2/ .

You can map Mike's downfall from it.

He was using amphetamines from the late 70's - onward. He had no problem with them because they made him productive, and if he was productive then there is no problem was his line of thought.

“I was in love with being conscious – amphetamines have that effect on a lot of people. I’d read the literature on amphetamines and had never heard of any long-term physical damage, but I did know that it could possibly result in acute episodes of psychosis. I saw no problem for me because I was convinced I was focused enough and that my use was channeled in a positive direction.

“I didn’t think there was anything wrong in taking stimulants to make me work as hard as I was. A lot of people drink coffee and smoke cigarettes to stay stimulated and be productive. I was a productive genius, but I had lost sight of the fact that the body and the mind have limitations.”

Late 70's, very close to the 1980 Olympia, his mother is very sick, near death it looks like.

He almost burns himself out training for 1979 and 1980 contests.

He loses the 1979 Overall Mr. O to Zane, and goes 5th at the 1980, behind Zane and Arnold.

After the 80 O, he leaves everything having to do with Weider and The IFBB. By 1982, he's almost broke.

Early 83, Nautilus / Jones hire him and Ray for promo work. They separate after about 1/2 a year, he makes up with Weider, but leaves in late 1983 to work for start up "Workout" magazine.

He ups the amphetamines to deal with the workload.

1985 looms, and his financial backers fold "Workout". He also loses his father, who, he was tremendously close to. Cathy Gelfo would leave later that year also.

From 1985 - 1990 it would be a string of arrests and hospital commitments.

Interesting ....

In all seriousness ; Netflix should make a documentary " HEAVY DUTY " about Mike's life and impact he had in bobybuilding .....
Interesting character all around, no doubt



WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[pellius]

according to people close to mike , he was doing well for himself before he died, not hurting for money by no means. he turned himself around financially unfortunately mike had very bad habits and quit working out ,  a shame , cause at one time he looked like a million dollars .  joe weider was paying him a  150 k a year in the early 80's and he had his books that sold well, mike was the only bodybuilder of that era to approach arnold levels of popularity

I remember when I first saw that pic. I was just blown away. He looked so solid and dense there. I missed the days when a standing relax pose was just like how Mike is doing it here. I hate when they flare their arms out now. It flattens out the delts and just seems kind of juvenile. It reminds me of how people stand when they are mimicking and mocking bodybuilders.

[pellius]

One thing that always kind of puzzled me was that Mike seemed like such a pure mesomorph and that it was easy for him to develop his muscles. But his back just seemed so lacking. I see nigs in the park basketball court with better traps and mid-back. His lats didn't look like it was lacking from the front but from the back, he didn't have that dramatic flare that I noticed even Mike Katz had in PI.

[AbrahamG]

One thing that always kind of puzzled me was that Mike seemed like such a pure mesomorph and that it was easy for him to develop his muscles. But his back just seemed so lacking. I see nigs in the park basketball court with better traps and mid-back. His lats didn't look like it was lacking from the front but from the back, he didn't have that dramatic flare that I noticed even Mike Katz had in PI.

You have no idea how fucking hard I'm laughing right now.  I've got tears streaming down my face.  Sweet Jesus that gets me every time you do it.

[pellius]

You have no idea how fucking hard I'm laughing right now.  I've got tears streaming down my face.  Sweet Jesus that gets me every time you do it.

I just feel it's important to distinguish between civilized Blacks and those inner-city thugs. I use to say the full word, and again not to be disparaging, but just to be very specific as to whom I am referring to, but nowadays it's the absolute worse thing you can say. You can shit in the streets and people just walk away with that "there's nothing to see here" attitude but say n*gg*r and you will lose your job and even have family and friends disown you. So I just say "nig" so there's no confusion. People seem to accept it and I've never had anyone call me out on it.

Of course, when I'm referring to an actual Black person I refer to them as "my n*gga". 

[wes]

Of course, when I'm referring to an actual Black person I refer to them as "my n*gga". 

Jesus dude I just choked on my coffee !!  LOL 

[pamith]

Actually , in the interview that started this topic, the dude says Weider loved to touch guys (rub oil) Europeans bodybuilders but wasn't really comfortable while others were "watching him doing it "





WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH  TA NA KA

Well the oil makes the definition show better (why does everything has to be sexual or homo?)

[Dieter]

I'm surprised this video wasn't posted yet, so I'll do it. Taken just days before Mike and Ray's untimely deaths.

Mike Mentzer taught what no gym trainer could. He was a legend. a great human being...this is not by judging the tightness of his skin but by the content of his noble character. Mike taught to think outside the box.to realize that precise training is the best and finally to have an objectivist view of life.

I'd doubt he was a h0m0 either