Flat n leanish vs fat n full is basically the options of a natty

[Marty Champions]

Basically a no win

Or roid up and kill ur testicles ala ohearn

The goals we beleived in were just illusions

I suggest technological goals or spiritual goals. Obtain hidden sacred knowledge from the vatican archives.. Goals of lascviousness are very cheap just it out of your system do not go around trying to obtain women huge waste of life

[Army of One]

did we all come to agreement this isnt the original 6'6 daddywaddy behind the account now?

[TheGrinch]

"Flat n leanish vs fat n full "

story of my life no matter what I do

[pellius]

Basically a no win

Or roid up and kill ur testicles ala ohearn

The goals we beleived in were just illusions

I suggest technological goals or spiritual goals. Obtain hidden sacred knowledge from the vatican archives.. Goals of lascviousness are very cheap just it out of your system do not go around trying to obtain women huge waste of life

What do you do in life that is meaningful?

[Humble Narcissist]

did we all come to agreement this isnt the original 6'6 daddywaddy behind the account now?

I think so.

[IroNat]

Natty's best looks...

Clancy Ross - late 1940s.



John Grimek



Reg Park at age 21 before he took 'roids.



Reeves



Doug Hepburn



George Hackenschmidt



Roy Hilligen - Mr. America 1951

[bhank]

Natty's best looks...

Clancy Ross - late 1940s.



John Grimek



Reg Park at age 21 before he took 'roids.



Reeves



Doug Hepburn



George Hackenschmidt



Roy Hilligen - Mr. America 1951

Stop the nonsense doping has been around for more than 100+ years not 50

PEDs can be traced all the way back to 1889, when Pud Galvin, a pitcher for the Pittsburgh Alleghenys (which eventually became the Pittsburgh Pirates), used Brown-Sequard Elixir. That’s code word for testosterone derived from other animals, most notably dogs and guinea pigs. Even Babe Ruth, the legendary outfielder for the New York Yankees, tried to inject himself with extract from sheep testicles in 1925.

[oldtimer1]

Stop the nonsense doping has been around for more than 100+ years not 50

PEDs can be traced all the way back to 1889, when Pud Galvin, a pitcher for the Pittsburgh Alleghenys (which eventually became the Pittsburgh Pirates), used Brown-Sequard Elixir. That’s code word for testosterone derived from other animals, most notably dogs and guinea pigs. Even Babe Ruth, the legendary outfielder for the New York Yankees, tried to inject himself with extract from sheep testicles in 1925.

Typical drug user saying everyone uses drugs. Can't get more irrational than that. Yes, there are top of the food chain athletes who work out hard without drugs. The reason why drug users rationalize is because they know what they would look like without the assist.  Take Reeves for example. Pictures of him at 15 show a great physique. During World War II in the Army they nick named him, The Shape. Was he injecting himself in the jungle during the war? 

[bhank]

Typical drug user saying everyone uses drugs. Can't get more irrational than that. Yes, there are top of the food chain athletes who work out hard without drugs. The reason why drug users rationalize is because they know what they would look like without the assist.  Take Reeves for example. Pictures of him at 15 show a great physique. During World War II in the Army they nick named him, The Shape. Was he injecting himself in the jungle during the war?

Reeves was a well known Dbol and Testosterone user WTF are you talking about. Stop showing pics of anabolic steroid users to justify natural bodybuilding you dumb twat typical fool you want natural athletes you need to go back another 60 years

I was in the army during a war and yes guys on deployment in war zones are absolutely using PEDS

[Marty Champions]

"Flat n leanish vs fat n full "

story of my life no matter what I do

yep the stark reality

[wes]

Reeves was a well known Dbol and Testosterone user WTF are you talking about. Stop showing pics of anabolic steroid users to justify natural bodybuilding you dumb twat typical fool you want natural athletes you need to go back another 60 years

I was in the army during a war and yes guys on deployment in war zones are absolutely using PEDS

You`ve been here since April and you call a man who you have never interacted with before,and who has been a member here for almost 20 years a twat over his opinion.

You know everything there is about bodybuilding but have no clue how to be humble and respectfiul.

You made yourself look like the twat in this thread which has been discussed about a zillion times on here anyway and nobody ever proved either point and in the big scheme of things it doesn`t matter anyway.

[GymnJuice]

"Flat n leanish vs fat n full "

story of my life no matter what I do

Very true.  Can be difficult to find a lean chick with full breasts that aren't implants.


 

[IroNat]

I was in the army during a war and yes guys on deployment in war zones are absolutely using PEDS

Would like to see your campaign ribbons and medals.

Pics of you in your desert camo too.

[bhank]

You`ve been here since April and you call a man who you have never interacted with before,and who has been a member here for almost 20 years a twat over his opinion.

You know everything there is about bodybuilding but have no clue how to be humble and respectfiul.

You made yourself look like the twat in this thread which has been discussed about a zillion times on here anyway and nobody ever proved either point and in the big scheme of things it doesn`t matter anyway.

He is an idiot stating the same stupid arguments that have been disproved a billion times. Claiming that enhanced bronze and golden age guys are natural and just have better genetics and steroids didn't exist until Arnold which is all bullshit that anyone who actually follows bodybuilding history knows shit has been around since the late 1800s. Like Reg Park just started taking steroids at 22 and Reeves was natural horseshit almost as dumb as Ronnie claiming he turned Pro then started taking gear. Grimeck natural wtf dude literally introduced the US olympic team to Dbol. This shit is common knowledge to someone who actually follows these things yet this dude has been here for years and still doesn't have a clue

[bhank]

Would like to see your campaign ribbons and medals.

Pics of you in your desert camo too.

You want my DD214 as well? I never said I was in the Desert I was in Kosovo and Serbia 11charlie Big red 1 stationed in Vilseck Germany deployed with KFOR went to Benning for Basic enlisted during wartime you got a problem with that? Piss off

[Tennisballz]

Basically a no win

Or roid up and kill ur testicles ala ohearn

The goals we beleived in were just illusions

I suggest technological goals or spiritual goals. Obtain hidden sacred knowledge from the vatican archives.. Goals of lascviousness are very cheap just it out of your system do not go around trying to obtain women huge waste of life

You're actually not wrong here.  I think the best thing for a natty to do is find the sweet sport that they are happy at.  Prioritizing health and strength while staying at a healthy BMI is probably the best all around goal.  Society is completely delusional on what's actually capable naturally.

[a_pupil]

I believe gama was full natty. He got more thick/high bf/bear looking in his later years but he was a genetic freak during his time.

[Griffith]

Steve Reeves as a teenager.

[chaos]

You`ve been here since April and you call a man who you have never interacted with before,and who has been a member here for almost 20 years a twat over his opinion.

You know everything there is about bodybuilding but have no clue how to be humble and respectfiul.

You made yourself look like the twat in this thread which has been discussed about a zillion times on here anyway and nobody ever proved either point and in the big scheme of things it doesn`t matter anyway.

Do you think bhank would keep that same energy in real life?

[bhank]

Steve Reeves as a teenager.

What does being a teenager have to do with anything you think teenagers don’t use gear lol

[bhank]

Do you think bhank would keep that same energy in real life?

Let’s talk real life here I am in real life today not flexing just walking around have barely touched a weight in a week Looking like fucking Popeye. Do you see my forearm covered in thick gnarley veins

[bhank]

Calves are looking the same way real life right now but I don’t know shit by all means continue to educate me

[TheShape.]

Those with poor bodybuilding genetics can’t fathom someone looking better than them without any chemicals

[Griffith]

George Hackenschmidt, in the late 1800's.

[ChristopherA]

Let’s talk real life here I am in real life today not flexing just walking around have barely touched a weight in a week Looking like fucking Popeye. Do you see my forearm covered in thick gnarley veins

Like I've pointed out before you have the build of a construction worker. Swinging hammers gives them forearms. Narrow shoulders in clothes no one can tell you work out. Barely touched a weight in a week? Looks like you barely touched a weight in your life.