Another Trumptard dies from The Hoax

[Straw Man]

I have a feeling Bill might have been talking vaccine just because he’s scared...and rightfully so. I’m not anti-vaccine. I want the studies done right, long term with a conclusion. There are TOO many questions surrounding it and you have to wonder why they want to mandate something that we don’t know the outcome of.

says the guy that has been injecting himself with drugs (many probably homebrew or counterfeit) for the last 40 years.

Who is the "they" that you think is "mandating" the vaccine?

[Primemuscle]

family is poisoning you 

Now, why would they do that?

[Howard]

Yeah fuckhead? It worked with both my wife and myself along with Hydroxycholroquin, azithromycin, zinc, D3, C, Quercetin. We missed the 10 days window for regeneron. Again, you have absolutely ZERO idea what you’re talking about be it vaccines or otherwise so STFU unless you’ve lived it

I'm sincerely sorry, you had to endure being ill with Covid.
Most get some sickness but make it thru after a few tough days.
Glad you made it out with no serious problems.

I trust  your wife and other family members are doing fine now?

[IRON CROSS]

Now, why would they do that?

$$$$ 

[Primemuscle]

$$$$ 

Since I am worth more alive than dead.....I guess I have nothing to worry about.

[IRON CROSS]

Since I am worth more alive than dead.....I guess I have nothing to worry about.

Insurance money, like allways 

[Primemuscle]

Insurance money, like allways 

I had term life insurance when I was younger with children and a wife to consider. My children are adults now and don't need me to take care of them. My wife passed away. I didn't renew that life insurance once the premiums exceeded the value of the insurance and there was no longer a need for it. I have one life insurance policy with a premium of $24 per year. It's depreciating life insurance and is currently bottomed out at $1,000 which barely covers the cost of cremation. No dependents means no need for life insurance.   

[MCWAY]

If that's a serious question then why are you asking it here
You should ask your doctor or check the CDC website

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/s0806-vaccination-protection.html

Ask the CDC? Why? So they can give me 5 different answers in as many weeks?

More and more reports are surfacing that these vaccines don't keep your antibodies up as long as they're supposed to do.

I trust the CDC as far as I can throw them.

[Primemuscle]

Ask the CDC? Why? So they can give me 5 different answers in as many weeks?

More and more reports are surfacing that these vaccines don't keep your antibodies up as long as they're supposed to do.

I trust the CDC as far as I can throw them.

Perhaps the vaccines aren't as effective as we wish they were. One question is, are they more effective than doing nothing at all? Another is, do the vaccines do more harm than good? Is natural immunity which resulted from contracting COVID  longer lasting than it is from the vaccines? On another issue, do masks do more harm than good?

[AbrahamG]

Perhaps the vaccines aren't as effective as we wish they were. One question is, are they more effective than doing nothing at all? Another is, do the vaccines do more harm than good? Is natural immunity which resulted from contracting COVID  longer lasting than it is from the vaccines? On another issue, do masks do more harm than good?

In fantasy land, the vaccines would be 100% effective against the vaccine in all its forms.  ABSOLUTELY more effective than doing nothing.  Absolutely do NOT do more harm than good.  Natural immunity doesn't come close to lasting as long as the vaccines.  Masks do NO harm whatsoever. 

I know this wasn't directed at me but I couldn't help myself. 

[loco]

Is natural immunity which resulted from contracting COVID  longer lasting than it is from the vaccines?

Yes.

Most people who recover from COVID appear to have protection for about one year, according to this recently published study:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03696-9

Overall vaccine protection starts to wane around the six month mark, according to this study:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.28.21261159v1

So according to the most recent data, protection from a previous COVID infection appears to last about twice as long as protection from vaccines.

Natural immunity doesn't come close to lasting as long as the vaccines.

It's actually the opposite, according to the latest data.  See above.

On another issue, do masks do more harm than good?

Yes, according to Fauci:

[loco]

In fantasy land, the vaccines would be 100% effective against the vaccine in all its forms.

Joe Biden lives in fantasy land:

"You're not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations."

Biden makes false claims about Covid-19
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/22/politics/fact-check-biden-cnn-town-hall-july/index.html

At the town hall, CNN presenter Don Lemon asked the president whether he believes COVID is in retreat.

The president said there is a pandemic for those who are not vaccinated against COVID. He went on to claim: "If you're vaccinated, you're not going to be hospitalized, you're not going to be in an ICU unit, and you are not going to die."

Did Joe Biden Spread Misinformation on COVID Vaccines?
https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-joe-biden-spread-misinformation-covid-vaccines-1612181

[chaos]

In fantasy land, the vaccines would be 100% effective against the vaccine in all its forms.  ABSOLUTELY more effective than doing nothing.  Absolutely do NOT do more harm than good.  Natural immunity doesn't come close to lasting as long as the vaccines.  Masks do NO harm whatsoever. 

I know this wasn't directed at me but I couldn't help myself.

You don't know that. You don't know any of that. You're just repeating what your tv and master government told you. Wait 5-7 years before you make a decision.

[AbrahamG]

You don't know that. You don't know any of that. You're just repeating what your tv and master government told you. Wait 5-7 years before you make a decision.

Yes I do. You don't.

[LurkerNoMore]

You don't know that. You don't know any of that. You're just repeating what your tv and master government told you. Wait 5-7 years before you make a decision.

You don't know that they don't.  You don't know any of that.  You're just repeating what your tv and the orange turd told you....   Oh wait... Trumpy said to get the vaccine now.... anyway.....   wait 5-7 years before you can claim it didn't make a difference.

[loco]

"This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 two-dose vaccine-induced immunity."
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1

[IRON CROSS]

I had term life insurance when I was younger with children and a wife to consider. My children are adults now and don't need me to take care of them. My wife passed away. I didn't renew that life insurance once the premiums exceeded the value of the insurance and there was no longer a need for it. I have one life insurance policy with a premium of $24 per year. It's depreciating life insurance and is currently bottomed out at $1,000 which barely covers the cost of cremation. No dependents means no need for life insurance.   

Portland Antifa could cremate you for free,  !.

[Primemuscle]

Portland Antifa could cremate you for free,  !.

Should I contact them and ask if they provide that service to non-members?

[Straw Man]

"This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 two-dose vaccine-induced immunity."
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1

This article is a preprint and has not been certified by peer review [what does this mean?]. It reports new medical research that has yet to be evaluated and so should not be used to guide clinical practice.

[Primemuscle]

This article is a preprint and has not been certified by peer review [what does this mean?]. It reports new medical research that has yet to be evaluated and so should not be used to guide clinical practice.

I also read this in a different thread and posted a response to it on Getbig. That this nonsense article has already been reposted on Getbig is good example how misinformation is spread, don't you agree. It's like if I tell you a lie enough times you will believe it to be true. See below.

 

Guess you didn't read this part of the article, huh?

This article is a preprint and has not been certified by peer review [what does this mean?]. It reports new medical research that has yet to be evaluated and so should not be used to guide clinical practice.


Here is what it means:

What is an unrefereed preprint?
Before formal publication in a scholarly journal, scientific and medical articles are traditionally certified by “peer review.” In this process, the journal’s editors take advice from various experts—called “referees”—who have assessed the paper and may identify weaknesses in its assumptions, methods, and conclusions. Typically a journal will only publish an article once the editors are satisfied that the authors have addressed referees’ concerns and that the data presented support the conclusions drawn in the paper.

Because this process can be lengthy, authors use the medRxiv service to make their manuscripts available as “preprints” before certification by peer review, allowing

other scientists to see, discuss, and comment on the findings immediately. Readers should therefore be aware that articles on medRxiv have not been finalized by authors, might contain errors, and report information that has not yet been accepted or endorsed in any way by the scientific or medical community.

We also urge journalists and other individuals who report on medical research to the general public to consider this when discussing work that appears on medRxiv preprints and emphasize it has yet to be evaluated by the medical community and the information presented may be erroneous.

[Body-Buildah]

 

[chaos]

Yes I do. You don't.

You're smarter than that and bad at trolling.

You don't know that they don't.  You don't know any of that.  You're just repeating what your tv and the orange turd told you....   Oh wait... Trumpy said to get the vaccine now.... anyway.....   wait 5-7 years before you can claim it didn't make a difference.

You're a fucking idiot, you've fallen into Straw man territory, not a good thing.

[LurkerNoMore]

You're a fucking idiot, you've fallen into Straw man territory, not a good thing.

That really refuted my post and let you make a valid point.  Oh wait, it did neither.  Nor did you.   Try again with some better deflection.

[chaos]

That really refuted my post and let you make a valid point.  Oh wait, it did neither.  Nor did you.   Try again with some better deflection.

You fucking moron, there was nothing to "refute" in your post. You're letting identity politics turn you into a shitty person, like straw man.

[LurkerNoMore]

You fucking moron, there was nothing to "refute" in your post. You're letting identity politics turn you into a shitty person, like straw man.

Is that your excuse for not being to refute my post?