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Re: Another Trumptard dies from The Hoax
« Reply #175 on: August 29, 2021, 02:14:48 PM »

"This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 two-dose vaccine-induced immunity."
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1

I also read this in a different thread and posted a response to it on Getbig. That this nonsense article has already been reposted on Getbig is good example how misinformation is spread, don't you agree. It's like if I tell you a lie enough times you will believe it to be true. See below.

Why are you calling this study a nonsense article and a lie?  Is it because its conclusion doesn't support your narrative, or is it because you don't like Jews?

This is a study recently conducted by scientists in Israel.  Israel is one of the most highly COVID-19–vaccinated countries in the world. 

Israel vaccinated its population almost exclusively with the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine, which remains the gold standard for the prevention of severe illness due to the coronavirus.

They examined medical records of tens of thousands of Israelis, charting their infections, symptoms, and hospitalizations between 1 June and 14 August, when the Delta variant predominated in Israel. It’s the largest real-world observational study so far to compare natural and vaccine-induced immunity to SARS-CoV-2.

The conclusion of this study isn't much different from that of other recent studies and reports on vaccine efficacy and natural immunity:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03696-9

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34331873/

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ultra-vaxxed-israel-debacle-dire-073840050.html

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.06.455491v1

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.28.21261159v1

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7034e4.htm?s_cid=mm7034e4_w

That this nonsense article has already been reposted on Getbig is good example how misinformation is spread

These are what I call good examples of how misinformation is spread:

"You're not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations."

Biden makes false claims about Covid-19
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/22/politics/fact-check-biden-cnn-town-hall-july/index.html

At the town hall, CNN presenter Don Lemon asked the president whether he believes COVID is in retreat.

The president said there is a pandemic for those who are not vaccinated against COVID. He went on to claim:
"If you're vaccinated, you're not going to be hospitalized, you're not going to be in an ICU unit, and you are not going to die."


Did Joe Biden Spread Misinformation on COVID Vaccines?
https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-joe-biden-spread-misinformation-covid-vaccines-1612181





Fauci tells 60 Minutes: "There's no reason to be walking around with a mask."


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Re: Another Trumptard dies from The Hoax
« Reply #176 on: August 30, 2021, 11:12:27 AM »


Why are you calling this study a nonsense article and a lie?  Is it because its conclusion doesn't support your narrative, or is it because you don't like Jews?

This is a study recently conducted by scientists in Israel.  Israel is one of the most highly COVID-19–vaccinated countries in the world. 

Israel vaccinated its population almost exclusively with the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine, which remains the gold standard for the prevention of severe illness due to the coronavirus.

They examined medical records of tens of thousands of Israelis, charting their infections, symptoms, and hospitalizations between 1 June and 14 August, when the Delta variant predominated in Israel. It’s the largest real-world observational study so far to compare natural and vaccine-induced immunity to SARS-CoV-2.

The conclusion of this study isn't much different from that of other recent studies and reports on vaccine efficacy and natural immunity:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03696-9

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34331873/

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ultra-vaxxed-israel-debacle-dire-073840050.html

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.06.455491v1

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.28.21261159v1

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7034e4.htm?s_cid=mm7034e4_w

These are what I call good examples of how misinformation is spread:

"You're not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations."

Biden makes false claims about Covid-19
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/22/politics/fact-check-biden-cnn-town-hall-july/index.html

At the town hall, CNN presenter Don Lemon asked the president whether he believes COVID is in retreat.

The president said there is a pandemic for those who are not vaccinated against COVID. He went on to claim:
"If you're vaccinated, you're not going to be hospitalized, you're not going to be in an ICU unit, and you are not going to die."


Did Joe Biden Spread Misinformation on COVID Vaccines?
https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-joe-biden-spread-misinformation-covid-vaccines-1612181





Fauci tells 60 Minutes: "There's no reason to be walking around with a mask."


Biden is not an expert on virology or COVID. In fact, there are no real experts on COVID because it hasn't been around long enough to have been fully studied. What Fauci said about masks in March 2020 is ancient history in terms of COVID. He's long since changed his stance on this. Which goes to prove my point that we don't know that much about COVID.

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Re: Another Trumptard dies from The Hoax
« Reply #177 on: August 30, 2021, 11:13:42 AM »
Biden is not an expert on virology or COVID. In fact, there are no real experts on COVID because it hasn't been around long enough to have been fully studied. What Fauci said about masks in March 2020 is ancient history in terms of COVID. He's long since changed his stance on this. Which goes to prove my point that we don't know that much about COVID.

BidenFAIL said he had a plan remember? 

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Re: Another Trumptard dies from The Hoax
« Reply #178 on: August 30, 2021, 11:44:37 AM »
Biden is not an expert on virology or COVID. In fact, there are no real experts on COVID because it hasn't been around long enough to have been fully studied.

Amazing how far you'll go to make excuses for Joe Biden and defend him.  Even CNN and Newsweek called it for what it is, Biden making false claims and spreading misinformation.

What Fauci said about masks in March 2020 is ancient history in terms of COVID. He's long since changed his stance on this. Which goes to prove my point that we don't know that much about COVID.

Fauci lied.  Fauci himself admitted that public health officials (he) lied to the public:

Dr. Fauci admits public health officials misled the public about the effectiveness of masks.
https://twitter.com/dcexaminer/status/1273257458765459459

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Re: Another Trumptard dies from The Hoax
« Reply #179 on: August 30, 2021, 03:43:21 PM »
Amazing how far you'll go to make excuses for Joe Biden and defend him.  Even CNN and Newsweek called it for what it is, Biden making false claims and spreading misinformation.

Fauci lied.  Fauci himself admitted that public health officials (he) lied to the public:

Dr. Fauci admits public health officials misled the public about the effectiveness of masks.
https://twitter.com/dcexaminer/status/1273257458765459459

- Amazing that you think I was excusing or defending Biden. What I said was, in effect, consider the source. That's hardly a defense, nor does it flatter the man in any way.

'Dr. Fauci admits public health officials misled the public about the effectiveness of masks.' And he goes on to offer a very plausible explanation for why 'public health officials' (which includes him) said what they did. Maybe you didn't catch that part? Or, maybe you did but it's not part of your narrative, so you ignored it. 

Remember this?

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Re: Another Trumptard dies from The Hoax
« Reply #180 on: August 30, 2021, 03:54:56 PM »

Remember this?


Why do mindless libz always go back to the "but, but Trump" videos, quotes, etc?
LIke you all say, he is not Prez and is irrelevant?

Things have changed 1000-fold since Pervy Joe "Took" office anyways, none of it concerns Trump.
The world has become much more dangerous, w/ soft-balls lobbed to Pervy Joe about Ice-Cream, as the world burns around us.

Its OK for Dems to admit Biden is a mistake. Not doing so makes you look so much more stupid than you probably are. (At least I hope you arent that stupid).

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Re: Another Trumptard dies from The Hoax
« Reply #181 on: August 30, 2021, 04:07:01 PM »
Why do mindless libz always go back to the "but, but Trump" videos, quotes, etc?
LIke you all say, he is not Prez and is irrelevant?

Things have changed 1000-fold since Pervy Joe "Took" office anyways, none of it concerns Trump.
The world has become much more dangerous, w/ soft-balls lobbed to Pervy Joe about Ice-Cream, as the world burns around us.

Its OK for Dems to admit Biden is a mistake. Not doing so makes you look so much more stupid than you probably are. (At least I hope you arent that stupid).

It seems to me you are making more out of this then necessary. I was merely pointing out that just because someone is president or in a leadership position, it doesn't mean they know what they are talking about. Biden says some stupid things and makes mistakes. Trump said some stupid things and made some mistakes. Bush made some mistakes. Clinton made mistakes (some really stupid ones). Presidents aren't perfect...making mistakes is pretty much par for the course. 

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Re: Another Trumptard dies from The Hoax
« Reply #182 on: August 30, 2021, 06:18:27 PM »
Why do mindless libz always go back to the "but, but Trump" videos, quotes, etc?
LIke you all say, he is not Prez and is irrelevant?

Things have changed 1000-fold since Pervy Joe "Took" office anyways, none of it concerns Trump.
The world has become much more dangerous, w/ soft-balls lobbed to Pervy Joe about Ice-Cream, as the world burns around us.

Its OK for Dems to admit Biden is a mistake. Not doing so makes you look so much more stupid than you probably are. (At least I hope you arent that stupid).

Of course we're going to compare Trump to Biden

Why wouldn't we.  Your side does the same thing

You want another comparison

Do you remember Trumps Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham

No one would blame you if you didn't remember her

She was THE TRAITORS so called Press Secretary for 9 months with an annual salary of 183k

The reason you probably don't remember her is because she never held a press briefing.

In fact the Trump clown show went for more than a year without holding a press briefing.

The Biden Administration went back to the normal process of having daily press briefings

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/press-briefings/

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Re: Another Trumptard dies from The Hoax
« Reply #183 on: August 30, 2021, 07:15:43 PM »
Of course we're going to compare Trump to Biden

Why wouldn't we.  Your side does the same thing

You want another comparison

Do you remember Trumps Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham

No one would blame you if you didn't remember her

She was THE TRAITORS so called Press Secretary for 9 months with an annual salary of 183k

The reason you probably don't remember her is because she never held a press briefing.

In fact the Trump clown show went for more than a year without holding a press briefing.

The Biden Administration went back to the normal process of having daily press briefings

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/press-briefings/
Bunch of dead and abandoned Americans in the middle east, highest gas prices, inflation through the roof, but hey we have daily press circlejerks. ::)
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: Another Trumptard dies from The Hoax
« Reply #184 on: August 31, 2021, 04:16:54 AM »
- Amazing that you think I was excusing or defending Biden. What I said was, in effect, consider the source. That's hardly a defense, nor does it flatter the man in any way.

You keep complaining about people spreading misinformation about COVID and the vaccines.  However, you won't admit that Biden lied, made false claims, and spread misinformation about COVID and the vaccines.

'Dr. Fauci admits public health officials misled the public about the effectiveness of masks.' And he goes on to offer a very plausible explanation for why 'public health officials' (which includes him) said what they did. Maybe you didn't catch that part? Or, maybe you did but it's not part of your narrative, so you ignored it. 

You keep changing your story.  First you said Fauci didn't know any better at the time.  But after I showed you he admitted to lying to the public, suddenly you are okay with that because the end justifies the means.    ::)

I can't fault any American who can't trust anything Fauci says after that.

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Re: Another Trumptard dies from The Hoax
« Reply #185 on: August 31, 2021, 05:58:16 AM »
Of course we're going to compare Trump to Biden

Why wouldn't we. Your side does the same thing


Only side I have honestly is Pro-America and Freedom.
Not a big fan of commie US Haters.

I liked Bill Clinton, things were great for me in those days.
These days, everything is extreme. The left just drives hatred, racism, and Marxism...

I can also do without hardcore Pubturdz, Proud Boys and the like (Tardz).

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Re: Another Trumptard dies from The Hoax
« Reply #186 on: August 31, 2021, 08:07:13 AM »
People of every political spectrum of all ages die from all kinds of shit everyday

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Re: Another Trumptard dies from The Hoax
« Reply #187 on: August 31, 2021, 10:20:34 AM »
You keep complaining about people spreading misinformation about COVID and the vaccines.  However, you won't admit that Biden lied, made false claims, and spread misinformation about COVID and the vaccines.

You keep changing your story.  First you said Fauci didn't know any better at the time.  But after I showed you he admitted to lying to the public, suddenly you are okay with that because the end justifies the means.    ::)

I can't fault any American who can't trust anything Fauci says after that.

Are you are looking for an argument from me addressing your post above? Don't hold your breath. You seem like an okay person, but you also seem like you argue just for sake of argument. Save that for others who have nothing better to do with their time.  :)