US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine (NOT!)

[Griffith]

Still not taking it.

I don't need a reason not to take it. Not taking it is the default position. The only reason to take it comes from institutional and social pressure, not anything from real life. To this day I don't know a single person who has died from this virus, and only know of one person who was in bad health getting particularly ill. I just don't give a fuck. There has not been a single instance that hit home and made me care enough to modify my behavior in any way unless coerced, and it's not like I don't know people who are vulnerable.

Everything about this pandemic including the vaccine stinks so bad you can probably smell the stench from the moon. To say I don't trust the people telling me what to do is an understatement. When they tell me to put something in my body I am running for the hills.

If anyone wants or needs to travel overseas, they will probably need to have the vaccine.

[SOMEPARTS]

I read the whole FDA approval letter. It is still an emergency use authorization, they did not finish the trials. This is a political move for press, must have been a lot of pressure from the top. There have been 370 drugs recalled that had FDA approval since 2017.


"On August 23, 2021, having concluded that revising this EUA is appropriate to protect the public health or safety under section 564(g)(2) of the Act, FDA is reissuing the August 12, 2021 letter of authorization in its entirety with revisions incorporated to clarify that the EUA will remain in place for the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine for the previously-authorized indication and uses, and to authorize use of COMIRNATY (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) under this EUA for certain uses that are not included in the approved BLA."

[IroNat]

^

Do you have a link to that?

I read the letter but did not see what you posted.  Maybe I have the wrong letter?

Full FDA approval for age 16+.

EUA for ages 12-15.

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https://disq.us/url?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fda.gov%2Fmedia%2F150386%2Fdownload%3ALpCFjiCQwprLvS-2tiqC0zPq8TY&cuid=2911865


"This EUA will be effective until the declaration that circumstances exist justifying the
authorization of the emergency use of drugs and biological products during the COVID-19
pandemic is terminated under Section 564(b)(2) of the Act or the EUA is revoked under Section
564(g) of the Act."

[Howard]

Howard why do you care so much for these lemmings who refuse the vaccine? 

You've never had children, by your own choice (which is the right choice if you dont want them), but despite not wanting to raise children of your own you still have this God complex where you want to save the world from covid. Why?

Fair question and deserving of a thoughtful answer:

1. I'm actually a humble man and don't think I'm some all knowing authority.
In fact, I look at  recognized medical /scientific sources as reliable and know more then I .
No source is ever perfect, but FDA full approval is the best we're gonna get for any vaccine.

2. For GOD knows what reason, I like and care about some people I've met thru getbig.
For example, I like Coach and think he's a decent man despite our political differences.
Your reply/question made you seem like a decent, sincere man , so I've made a serious reply.

3. Before/after every serious reply I make on COVID, I  wonder why I bothered.
It ends up being ridiculed and I wasted my time along with the target audience .

4. You're right, I never had a desire to have my own children.
I also know many men enjoy being father's and couldn't imagine life without their kids.
I respect those who feel the way and know the world needs devoted dads.

My main deal on the kid issue , comes down to 1 word ..." inevitable".
In my opinion, having children is optional , NOT inevitable .
If you want kids, GREAT. If not, just make sure you use some reliable form of contraception.

[Pray_4_War]

A lot of this boils down to distrust.  Distrust of the government, distrust of all societal authority figures.   This is their fault, not the public's fault.  Over my lifetime I've seen their incompetence, dishonesty, partisanship, and corruption on full display.  It seems worse every year.  You can't trust any of them for anything big or small.  They exist only to enrich themselves and grow their own power.  They cling to power until they fall over and die of old age.  They couldn't give a fuck about the people they are supposed to serve and represent.  They are lying thieves.  That's obvious.  If they are looking for someone to blame, then they should look in the mirror.  Twenty years ago I would have taken the shot and thought nothing of it.  Times have changed.

[residue]

So, after 1.5 years or so of this fiasco:

1. Folks I know who have died from the RONA = 0
2. Folks I know who have died from the Vax = 1

sorry you dont have friends?

[G_Thang]

The Pfizer vaccine just got FULL use approval by the FDA.

That means it's safe and effective in treating covid-19.

THIS is from the world of real medical science based on rigorous trials NOT social media hype.

I'm sorry, but your beliefs against this are based on delusional nonsense that only exists in minds like yours.

It has a 42% efficacy and falling.  Yeah, that's super effective. Have you received your 3rd shot yet in 8 months? You see people getting 3 flu shots in 8 months.  Why we don't hear about the natural immunity people having issues after experiencing the real variable virus vs. the cloned, fake spiked cells. 

Let us talk in about 7-10 years when the cellular enzymes defects start to pop up like cancers.  You do realize there are interactions with enzymes to produce those spikes on your cells, those same enzymes which cause cells to become cancerous.

[Howard]

A lot of this boils down to distrust.  Distrust of the government, distrust of all societal authority figures.   This is their fault, not the public's fault.  Over my lifetime I've seen their incompetence, dishonesty, partisanship, and corruption on full display.  It seems worse every year.  You can't trust any of them for anything big or small.  They exist only to enrich themselves and grow their own power.  They cling to power until they fall over and die of old age.  They couldn't give a fuck about the people they are supposed to serve and represent.  They are lying thieves.  That's obvious.  If they are looking for someone to blame, then they should look in the mirror.  Twenty years ago I would have taken the shot and thought nothing of it.  Times have changed.

Good post.

However, when I see bodybuilders refuse the vaccine but pump cycles of underground steroids, the "heath concerns" argument seems silly.
Same misguided logic, when college kids binge drink and take rec drug by the handful but think a covid vaccine is too risky. WTF

Yes, a small % on strict diets and natural lifestyles may have legit concerns about putting foreign substances in their body.

BUT, most who refuse to get a vaccine are just being obnoxious and stubborn . C'mon now, just be honest about your real motivation here.

It's a public health issue, and the best way to eradicate Covid is by vaccine.

[TheGrinch]

the best way to eradicate Covid is by vaccine.

How so?

[Howard]

It has a 42% efficacy and falling.  Yeah, that's super effective. Have you received your 3rd shot yet in 8 months? You see people getting 3 flu shots in 8 months.  Why we don't hear about the natural immunity people having issues after experiencing the real variable virus vs. the cloned, fake spiked cells. 

Let us talk in about 7-10 years when the cellular enzymes defects start to pop up like cancers.  You do realize there are interactions with enzymes to produce those spikes on your cells, those same enzymes which cause cells to become cancerous.

GThang, I'll give you credit for sticking to the actual issue and nor resorting to silly insults wars. Thank you for that.

Let me use a basic analogy that makes my point clear.

If the house is on fire, the fire dept hoses it down to put it out and doesn't worry about the furniture getting wet.

Right now, we have a serious pandemic roaring like a proverbial fire thru various regions .
The states of AL and Miss  ( La? )have more Covid patients then they can treat in hospitals.
Florida just exceeded 8 millions cases and growing rapidly .

The root of the problem is due to UNvaccinated people now.

Get a vaccine, and let's end this terrible virus , asap.

Thanks again for keeping things thoughtful and on topic.
I can appreciate your long term concerns, but the FDA and people's primary care docs say the vaccine is safe.
No human's are 100% correct, but I trust them MORE then some hypothetical possibilities .

[Pray_4_War]

Good post.

However, when I see bodybuilders refuse the vaccine but pump cycles of underground steroids, the "heath concerns" argument seems silly.
Same misguided logic, when college kids binge drink and take rec drug by the handful but think a covid vaccine is too risky. WTF

Yes, a small % on strict diets and natural lifestyles may have legit concerns about putting foreign substances in their body.

BUT, most who refuse to get a vaccine are just being obnoxious and stubborn . C'mon now, just be honest about your real motivation here.

It's a public health issue, and the best way to eradicate Covid is by vaccine.

You are talking to a person who doesn't smoke, drink alcohol, take recreation drugs or steroids.  Never in my life.

My real motivation is preserving liberty which is what the United States was founded on.  Two quick points........

1.  If the vaccines worked then vaccinated people should have nothing to worry about.  they would be protected and the unvaccinated are responsible for themeslves.

2.  Maybe some of these vaccination zealots would be happier in china.  China doies a good job of making people do what they are told. 

[Howard]

How so?

Go read the history of vaccines and how they were able to eradicate many horrible diseases.
That's settled science with a long track record of success.

[Howard]

You are talking to a person who doesn't smoke, drink alcohol, take recreation drugs or steroids.  Never in my life.

My real motivation is preserving liberty which is what the United States was founded on.  Two quick points........

1.  If the vaccines worked then vaccinated people should have nothing to worry about.  they would be protected and the unvaccinated are responsible for themeslves.

2.  Maybe some of these vaccination zealots would be happier in china.  China doies a good job of making people do what they are told.

It's against the law to burn tires in your backyard or drive an oil burning car because it pollutes the air we all have to breath.
The overall heath and welfare of the general public is what's important.

Unless you want to live alone on island, you need to recognize the health and safety of others.

[Pray_4_War]

[G_Thang]

To the pro-compounders (It's not a vaccine!)…show me datum on a drug at the time of FDA approval had a plummeting effectiveness against its' target disease.  In literally 8 months it's gone from 95% - 42% and falling.

Do not give me HIV treatments and wasting.  They were always done in cocktails. 

[Pray_4_War]

[G_Thang]

 

Too bad they administered 200 mil shots before the zoo animals got their shots. No animals were harmed in this experiment.  PETA will love that.

[Flexacon]

Go read the history of vaccines and how they were able to eradicate many horrible diseases.
That's settled science with a long track record of success.

Vaccines won't eradicate this particular virus. It will be with us endemically even with a 100% vaccination uptake.

Unless you want to live alone on island, you need to recognize the health and safety of others.

You should start by recognizing your own health and safety fat man

[Pray_4_War]

[GigantorX]

Full approval? Eh, wasn't this just a 2 year extension of the EUA with an age addition of 12-17?

[Howard]

To the pro-compounders (It's not a vaccine!)…show me datum on a drug at the time of FDA approval had a plummeting effectiveness against its' target disease.  In literally 8 months it's gone from 95% - 42% and falling.

Do not give me HIV treatments and wasting.  They were always done in cocktails.

I'm no doc or expert and won't pretend I can give detailed answers to your questions.
LOL, I could provide links, but that's a personal cop out .
Suffice to say I trust my personal doc and their advice on Covid and my health .

The growing reality is, you're gonna need a covid vaccine for travel , work , schools and entry to some public events.

Nobody is going to break into your home and hold you down for a shot, here in the USA.
BUT, you're personal and professional  life may be affected if you refuse.

You're a smart man, and know the deal, so it's your call.

[G_Thang]

I'm no doc or expert and won't pretend I can give detailed answers to your questions.
LOL, I could provide links, but that's a personal cop out .
Suffice to say I trust my personal doc and their advice on Covid and my health .

The growing reality is, you're gonna need a covid vaccine for travel , work , schools and entry to some public events.

Nobody is going to break into your home and hold you down for a shot, here in the USA.
BUT, you're personal and professional  life may be affected if you refuse.

You're a smart man, and know the deal, so it's your call.

All I asked for, was a vaccine with a fold efficacy drop while giving you multiple shots to maintain the initial efficacy hot and fresh out the kitchen, it's the remix to ignition all at the very day the FDA approved it. you must exclude off regimes and cocktails compounds, a single or 2 dose fucboi vaccine will do.  you have to meet all the keynote points.

[residue]

A lot of this boils down to distrust.  Distrust of the government, distrust of all societal authority figures.   This is their fault, not the public's fault.  Over my lifetime I've seen their incompetence, dishonesty, partisanship, and corruption on full display.  It seems worse every year.  You can't trust any of them for anything big or small.  They exist only to enrich themselves and grow their own power.  They cling to power until they fall over and die of old age.  They couldn't give a fuck about the people they are supposed to serve and represent.  They are lying thieves.  That's obvious.  If they are looking for someone to blame, then they should look in the mirror.  Twenty years ago I would have taken the shot and thought nothing of it.  Times have changed.

but distrust of all governments all over the world? take me for example i'm Israeli,we may have policy disagreements but there's no doubt in any israeli mind that the government is pro jew\jewish. We have the government that says "if someone kills 1 jew, we kill 100 of them," are they also using this to get rich? is every country doing the same? because the response is pretty unilateral amongst every nation
 

[Howard]

All I asked for, was a vaccine with a fold efficacy drop while giving you multiple shots to maintain the initial efficacy hot and fresh out the kitchen, it's the remix to ignition all at the very day the FDA approved it. you must exclude off regimes and cocktails compounds, a single or 2 dose fucboi vaccine will do.  you have to meet all the keynote points.

I'm highly impressed we have more then 1 safe and effective vaccines at this point to eradicate the virus.
Right now, the existing covid vaccines are never going to be perfect, but they're really good.
If we need a "booster" after 8 mos to maintain max efficacy , fine with me.

The main goal is to keep all of us alive and out of the hospital.
That's totally doable , right now and what I'm backing.