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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #150 on: August 25, 2021, 07:52:04 AM »
I know the vaccine isn't perfect but it's pretty damn good at dealing with covid.
Yup, like most vaccines we may eventually need an extra shot aka " booster".

Covid is a much more serious threat to the public health, then the common cold or seasonal flu.

Ok, so your idea is too basically accept/ignore the virus as it's " No big deal? "
In my judgement, you're trying to minimize the actual threat .

You made a reasonable post, but, your ideas are no solution.
With that attitude we'd still have Polio outbreaks crippling countless victims .

I'll go with the vaccines and trying to eradicate this terrible virus from the public health scene.

Really?
Cases are rising in the UK more now than pre vaccine and its not even flu season
Amazingly a vaccine that is supposed to suppress a coronavirus is creating cases in a time when they prevouisly didnt exist.

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #151 on: August 25, 2021, 08:18:02 AM »
Really?
Cases are rising in the UK more now than pre vaccine and its not even flu season
Amazingly a vaccine that is supposed to suppress a coronavirus is creating cases in a time when they prevouisly didnt exist.

Unless everything goes perfectly, it's never good enough for some people.
In my OPINION< they're MORE concerned with winning  internet debates then real world solutions to a pandemic.

The vaccine isn't perfect but it's our best shot.

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #152 on: August 25, 2021, 08:20:52 AM »
Really?
Cases are rising in the UK more now than pre vaccine and its not even flu season
Amazingly a vaccine that is supposed to suppress a coronavirus is creating cases in a time when they prevouisly didnt exist.

Half-ass cooked up wackcines are causing abnormal mutations but cognitive dissonance and denial is stopping people from seeing this trend.  It's going to take kids and honey badgers to get us out of this mess if the pharmacies don't jack up their immune systems. 


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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #153 on: August 25, 2021, 08:24:56 AM »
Really?
Cases are rising in the UK more now than pre vaccine and its not even flu season
Amazingly a vaccine that is supposed to suppress a coronavirus is creating cases in a time when they prevouisly didnt exist.

I've been thinking about this too.  If we are to believe the media, things are much worse now than in 2020 when there was no vaccine.  Iceland and Israel, the two countries with the highest percentages of vaccinated people, are seeing record number infections now.  And it's summer time, when people are spending more time outdoors and not gathering inside in groups.  WTF?

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #154 on: August 25, 2021, 08:54:36 AM »
A study released Tuesday showed vaccine effectiveness decreased among health care workers who were fully vaccinated since the time that the delta variant became widespread, which could be due to waning effectiveness of the vaccine over time, the higher transmissibility of the delta variant or other factors, experts said.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/keep-guard-cdc-studies-show-004421531.html

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #155 on: August 25, 2021, 09:04:17 AM »
Really?
Cases are rising in the UK more now than pre vaccine and its not even flu season
Amazingly a vaccine that is supposed to suppress a coronavirus is creating cases in a time when they prevouisly didnt exist.

I believe this is more  a failure of the tests. It was the same thing back in the 80s with AIDS. Tests were popping anybody who has a compromised immune system for any reason. They’re also testing more people than ever.

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #156 on: August 25, 2021, 10:16:36 AM »
I believe this is more  a failure of the tests. It was the same thing back in the 80s with AIDS. Tests were popping anybody who has a compromised immune system for any reason. They’re also testing more people than ever.

We know this in healthcare and the sciences.  That's why they are trying to push another dosage of the zoo bumfuck pzifer compound on people.  The real elephant in the room is the man and others with similar serum profiles.  Why hasn't his efficacy changed in almost 1 year after an infection?  During a natural infection vs. an artificial fucboi infection the immune systems is actually fighting varying generations of viroids.  Delta is good for TV and the provaxxers  You are delusional if you think each generation of viroids after reverse transcription is the same as the pervious generation. His immune system is primed for lambda, mu or whatever is next b/c it is already learned how to combat VARING generations of viriods, not the same protein affixed on every cell in a concoctions     



Why aren't we collecting serum on his guy and the millions who only experienced 3-10 quarantine with minimal flu symptoms?   

45 was right about one thing.  Give the elderly and frail a shot and let the strong and children experience covid naturally like the flu.  We'd be pretty much of this nonsense.  Instead, we are stuck in income statement and financial sheet wars with the pharmacies and their long term cancer causing agents.   

Waiting to see who is fucking stupid enough to approve JandJ new cancer compound.  And they'd probably get out of paying out billions like they had to for their booty rash powder. 

Where you at Howard White?

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #157 on: August 25, 2021, 10:24:00 AM »
I believe this is more  a failure of the tests. It was the same thing back in the 80s with AIDS. Tests were popping anybody who has a compromised immune system for any reason. They’re also testing more people than ever.

I don't know you and can't read minds.
But, it's my OPINION that the vaccine naysayers care more about winning a social media feud , then getting practical solutions.

No matter how many answers are given, it never ends .

 Get the vaccine, it's your best shot.

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #158 on: August 25, 2021, 10:29:23 AM »
I don't know you and can't read minds.
But, it's my OPINION that the vaccine naysayers care more about winning a social media feud , then getting practical solutions.

No matter how many answers are given, it never ends .

Get the vaccine, it's your best shot.

Other than Jerking yourself off, what does this accomplish? Every major institution is pimping and coercing the vaccines on the public (wealth transfer to the medical establishment). They’re doing just fine without you.

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #159 on: August 25, 2021, 10:33:55 AM »
Other than Jerking yourself off, what does this accomplish?


Damn , I didn't know you had a web cam on me going "full speed Toobin" while posting!  ;D

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #160 on: August 25, 2021, 10:39:11 AM »
Half-ass cooked up wackcines are causing abnormal mutations but cognitive dissonance and denial is stopping people from seeing this trend.  It's going to take kids and honey badgers to get us out of this mess if the pharmacies don't jack up their immune systems.

I've tried to promote what I believe is the right way to deal with this pandemic.
Those on your side are not going to be moved and change their view pts.
No Hard feelings on my end.

We'll see where it all goes from here and I sincerely wish you well.
FYI< looks like a lovely lady on your arm in that avatar.


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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #161 on: August 25, 2021, 10:44:37 AM »
I know the vaccine isn't perfect but it's pretty damn good at dealing with covid.
Yup, like most vaccines we may eventually need an extra shot aka " booster".

Howard, the notion that the vaccine is "pretty damn good" at dealing with COVID is your opinion. For instance (and no lie here), I have at least 3 friends that have recently come down with COVID and were all vaccinated (2 doses). They luckily got better, but went through the worse flu of their lives (no hospitalizations required, but they also didn't have any major comorbidities). In a strange sense of irony, most of my unvaccinated friends with the exception of 1 (to be fair) have not gotten COVID. So, just as you have an opinion, my opinion is that the vaccine isn't "pretty damn good". I think it can help, but to call it a solution is farfetched and a clear reach on your end. If it truly eliminated COVID (like for instance the Hepatitis C drug that cures you of Hep C - Harvoni), then I would say it's a solution. Solution provides finalization, this is just some type of help. Also Howard, most vaccines don't require a booster and you know this. I don't need to research that for you, so lets not bestow that on this novel vaccine.

Covid is a much more serious threat to the public health, then the common cold or seasonal flu.

Come again Howard? The Flu has killed over 293,000 Americans over the last 10 years as per the CDC (these are the low end numbers based on their true and estimated stats found here: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/past-seasons.html). We can downplay the common cold, but what you can't downplay is that the common cold is also a coronavirus that has never been cured or eradicated. How will we eradicate a super coronavirus?

Ok, so your idea is to basically accept/ignore the virus as it's " No big deal?"

Howard, when did I state that the virus is "no big deal"? I've said it before. I believe COVID is real. Here's another fact Howard, I had COVID and I did just fine (no hospitalization). I might have been lucky. I did have the worst flu-like symptoms of my life, but recovered at home with hydration, Aspirin, Vitamin C, D, Zinc and Magnesium. No antivirals or vaccinations. And guess what Howard, I've had my antibodies checked after having COVID over 9 months ago in 2020 and I still have antibodies for it. Why would I get a vaccine when I have naturally acquired antibodies for it that are more effective and produced by me?

In my judgement, you're trying to minimize the actual threat.

Not at all. COVID is serious, but I am also trying to give humanity a chance to fight this off by way of natural immunity.

Answer this, do you think that unless Pfizer, Moderna and Johnson & Johnson wouldn't have produced a vaccine, that humanity would become eradicated?

Or do you believe that our bodies would assimilate, learn, and gain natural immunity to the virus?

Remember 1918 Howard, the world had a little pandemic called the Spanish flu. There were no vaccines for the Spanish flu back then, nor are there any vaccines for it now. You know how many people worldwide were killed by the Spanish Flu? By the CDC's estimates 50 million worldwide. Now why didn't the Spanish Flu just finish off humanity? It had already eradicated a 3rd of humanity. Our immune systems got better at fighting it off. With that same token Howard, why not give humanity a chance to fight COVID off?

You made a reasonable post, but, your ideas are no solution.
With that attitude we'd still have Polio outbreaks crippling countless victims . I'll go with the vaccines and trying to eradicate this terrible virus from the public health scene.

The problem here Howard is that we do not have a "true" solution. The vaccine can help, but it doesn't solve the problem. If it cured you from COVID, that's a solution. We don't have that yet.

If I had an idea that could lend itself as a solution, I'd be rich and posting from a yacht somewhere. I wish I did Howard, but I am not that smart. Also, keep in mind that I do believe you are coming from a good place Howard. I believe that you do want what's best for humanity. You have taken the side of pushing for everyone to get vaccinated and I don't think any less of you. With that same token, you have to be open to the idea that not getting vaccinated doesn't mean you're making matters worse. If it did, what do you make of people with natural immunity to COVID after having had the virus?

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #162 on: August 25, 2021, 12:12:05 PM »
Lol eat shit with that full approval. I approve them to stick their heads up their asses.
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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #163 on: August 25, 2021, 01:13:21 PM »
The Pfizer vaccine just got FULL use approval by the FDA.

That means it's safe and effective in treating covid-19.

THIS is from the world of real medical science based on rigorous trials NOT social media hype.

I'm sorry, but your beliefs against this are based on delusional nonsense that only exists in minds like yours.

What do you think this approval really means? What other vaccines in US History have been approved by the FDA in this amount of time?

Also, with the absence of long-term data, what does the FDA approval truly mean for long-term health?

8 months ago we were told get the jab and return to normal. Then, 8 months later we're told to get a booster as the efficacy is waning. See my point here? There have been changes in the data in 8 months time. What would another eight months show us as far as risk side effects etc?

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #164 on: August 25, 2021, 01:22:47 PM »
What do you think this approval really means? What other vaccines in US History have been approved by the FDA in this amount of time?

Also, with the absence of long-term data, what does the FDA approval truly mean for long-term health?

8 months ago we were told get the jab and return to normal. Then, 8 months later we're told to get a booster as the efficacy is waning. See my point here? There have been changes in the data in 8 months time. What would another eight months show us as far as risk side effects etc?
What other vaccine in history of the planet has had this kind of unified global response? let's take away vaccines what other endeavor in the history of human kind has had these kind of resources put behind it?

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #165 on: August 25, 2021, 01:28:56 PM »
What other vaccine in history of the planet has had this kind of unified global response? let's take away vaccines what other endeavor in the history of human kind has had these kind of resources put behind it?

What you stated doesn't replace LONG TERM DATA.

What does the approval of a drug or treatment really mean when there is only 8 months of ata on said drug/treatment,

I do think the vaccine has value for high risk groups, but how does an FDA approval mean anything in this case?

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #166 on: August 25, 2021, 01:39:18 PM »


they just extended the emergency use not given it full approval

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #167 on: August 25, 2021, 02:54:44 PM »


they just extended the emergency use not given it full approval

AGAIN-  This EUA extension was only for the 12-15 yr age range. Everyone over 15 has full use approval.

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #168 on: August 25, 2021, 03:30:24 PM »
😂😂😂

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #169 on: August 25, 2021, 04:13:26 PM »
I sincerely wish we all could make our own choices and accept our fates.

However, Covid is an transmitted thru the air and many people can feel fine and still spread the virus.
In terms of PUBLIC health, like it or not, we're all in this together.

I'll end with this goofy example to try and make my point ( with a chuckle :D)

You may feel it's your right to fart in a crowded elevator, but everyone still has to smell it.

We've had this discussion before and you used the same inapplicable metaphor. Delta makes everyone flatulent. Future variants even more so.

Not everyone is going to do what you think they should do. You need to accept that and move on. What are you doing repeating yourself? How bored are you these days?  Lol.

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #170 on: August 25, 2021, 04:48:07 PM »
A very convenient excuse all the so-called experts use for getting everything wrong is that the data changed. One of Fauci’s original criticisms of masks is that people are always fidgeting with them. How exactly has that data changed?

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« Reply #171 on: August 25, 2021, 06:56:58 PM »
Howard is educated but goodness me he is not that informed about what is going on.

I live in Sydney. The state and federal governments here are following WHO and CDC guidelines and are upping the vaccinations and imposing lockdowns on most of the country. We haven't been allowed to travel freely in Australia. If you live in Sydney you can't travel out of state or inside the state. We now have a curfew from 9 pm to 5 am. The police and army are helping the government with lockdowns and are fining those 'who do the wrong thing'. It is a police state. In late June we were told there would be a 2 week lockdown in Greater Sydney. It has been extended to 9 weeks now with no light at the end of the tunnel. You have to wear masks shopping or even going outside. Have these restrictions and vaccinations been effective? The infection rate from the Delta variant in NSW has been going up and is now over 1000 new infections each day. I mean, wtf is going on? Whoever is advising the government is completely ignorant because they are not trying interventions that might help reduce infections. One to three people are dying every day in our state. Most are over 80. Some have had the vaccines. They wanted to vaccinate all year 12 students before they sat for their final exams. Sadly 3 students died but that was covered up. Those in charge are actually killing young people with their stupid vaccines. People who are vaccinated can still get infected and even spread the disease. Again, wtf is this? Here we are under house arrest and no hope for restrictions to be lifted for months. It has been a mild 'winter' here is Sydney but things warm up in September.

Howard and those who are promoting vaccinations don't know what they are talking about. People would be better off taking Ivermectin or other prophylactics that have been proven to work. Unfortunately the governments are not helping citizens avoid the disease except via vaccinations. This is clearly lunacy. When scientists and doctors cannot freely exchange and debate data then we will get more of the same. I consider Google, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and most of the media evil entities because they are censoring information and promoting those dangerous so called 'vaccines'. I haven't seen any proof that wearing masks are effective in preventing infection. Look at Sydney and Melbourne....both cities reporting more infections almost daily.


https://www.9news.com.au/national/australia-breaking-news-live-coronavirus-updates-headlines-august-26-2021-sydney-numbers-victoria-pfizer-vaccine/0e994063-78c5-43ab-a72c-df49ac899ead#post=4267cdf4-3515-413f-82a1-127c884ff7e9


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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #172 on: August 25, 2021, 07:01:28 PM »
Howard is educated but goodness me he is not that informed about what is going on.

I live in Sydney. The state and federal governments here are following WHO and CDC guidelines and are upping the vaccinations and imposing lockdowns on most of the country. We haven't been allowed to travel freely in Australia. If you live in Sydney you can't travel out of state or inside the state. We now have a curfew from 9 pm to 5 am. The police and army are helping the government with lockdowns and are fining those 'who do the wrong thing'. It is a police state. In late June we were told there would be a 2 week lockdown in Greater Sydney. It has been extended to 9 weeks now with no light at the end of the tunnel. You have to wear masks shopping or even going outside. Have these restrictions and vaccinations been effective? The infection rate from the Delta variant in NSW has been going up and is now over 1000 new infections each day. I mean, wtf is going on? Whoever is advising the government is completely ignorant because they are not trying interventions that might help reduce infections. One to three people are dying every day in our state. Most are over 80. Some have had the vaccines. They wanted to vaccinate all year 12 students before they sat for their final exams. Sadly 3 students died but that was covered up. Those in charge are actually killing young people with their stupid vaccines. People who are vaccinated can still get infected and even spread the disease. Again, wtf is this? Here we are under house arrest and no hope for restrictions to be lifted for months. It has been a mild 'winter' here is Sydney but things warm up in September.

Howard and those who are promoting vaccinations don't know what they are talking about. People would be better off taking Ivermectin or other prophylactics that have been proven to work. Unfortunately the governments are not helping citizens avoid the disease except via vaccinations. This is clearly lunacy. When scientists and doctors cannot freely exchange and debate data then we will get more of the same. I consider Google, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and most of the media evil entities because they are censoring information and promoting those dangerous so called 'vaccines'. I haven't seen any proof that wearing masks are effective in preventing infection. Look at Sydney and Melbourne....both cities reporting more infections almost daily.


https://www.9news.com.au/national/australia-breaking-news-live-coronavirus-updates-headlines-august-26-2021-sydney-numbers-victoria-pfizer-vaccine/0e994063-78c5-43ab-a72c-df49ac899ead#post=4267cdf4-3515-413f-82a1-127c884ff7e9

Well said.

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #173 on: August 25, 2021, 07:20:03 PM »
wtf is this?

the end.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again – seek God, gentlemen... time is short.

things will only wax worse.

any light thats left in the world, will be extinguished... reality will become misery across the board.... misery that intensifies with time.

morality and wisdom will be replaced with truly evil black hearts... sinister desires... which will play out in the most horrific, terrifying ways.

there will be no freedom, safety or choice for most... only survival; no peace, no rest... life will consist of constant fear, anguish, and death.


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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #174 on: August 25, 2021, 07:50:06 PM »
the end.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again – seek God, gentlemen... time is short.

things will only wax worse.

What kind of dystopian, Orwellian'esque society do you see us arriving to? Give us more details, I am curious.

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