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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #225 on: August 27, 2021, 10:18:07 AM »
They've even found a way to repurpose thalidomide, that horrible drug which gave babies monstrous deformities in the early 1960s.

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #226 on: August 27, 2021, 11:01:08 AM »
Ivermectin treats parasites and Covid is a virus.

Using Ivermectin to treat Covid is useless.


LOL! Just stop Howard- this trolling is even worse than BHank!


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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #227 on: August 27, 2021, 11:03:55 AM »
Using Ivermectin to treat Covid is useless.

Similar to trying to have a real conversation with you.
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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #228 on: August 27, 2021, 11:12:29 AM »
Similar to trying to have a real conversation with you.

LOL, you're right ,  this is the forum version of a circular firing squad.  ;D

For me it all comes down to trusting and accepting the information I get from my own doc and FDA, etc.
I just don't find most internet rumors to the contrary to be very credible .

I now know /accept , most people who buy into the "alternative info" won't be budged .

I really don't have much more to say at this point. No hard feelings on my end .

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #229 on: August 27, 2021, 11:22:01 AM »
LOL, you're right ,  this is the forum version of a circular firing squad.  ;D

For me it all comes down to trusting and accepting the information I get from my own doc and FDA, etc.
I just don't find most internet rumors to the contrary to be very credible .

Yes, but you ignored all the people making points about it treating symptoms, alternate uses for medications, and the fact than there are many doctors supporting the use.  You just return to the same blanketed, definitive statements.


I really don't have much more to say at this point.

The entire forum has been waiting to hear this for about 3 weeks now.  Mods, please sticky and enforce.

No hard feelings on my end .

Never.....never should be.
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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #230 on: August 27, 2021, 11:43:36 AM »
Yes, but you ignored all the people making points about it treating symptoms, alternate uses for medications, and the fact than there are many doctors supporting the use.  You just return to the same blanketed, definitive statements.


The entire forum has been waiting to hear this for about 3 weeks now.  Mods, please sticky and enforce.

Never.....never should be.

1. If someone makes an absurd claim, the only answer needed is " That's wrong".
2. LOL,  ;D But for people wanting me to STFU, they sure gave me a lot of replies. Hmmm ;)
3. We may disagree on some issues, but we don't resort to personal insult attacks. Thank you for that.

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #231 on: August 27, 2021, 12:45:03 PM »
HOLY CRAP...


MARTY was right!!!!


"Japan Pulls 1.6-illion Doses of Moderna after Discovering They React to Magnets"

https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Coronavirus/COVID-vaccines/1.6m-Moderna-doses-withdrawn-in-Japan-over-contamination

Contaminated vials.

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #232 on: August 27, 2021, 01:26:51 PM »
Ivermectin for the win. You can always get vaccinated if that floats your boat though.


https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/breaking-japanese-medical-association-chairman-tells-doctors-to-prescribe-ivermectin-for-covid/


The chairman of the Tokyo Medical Association, Haruo Ozaki, held a press conference this week announcing that the anti-parasite medicine Ivermectin seems to be effective at stopping COVID-19 and publicly recommending that all doctors in Japan immediately begin using Ivermectin to treat COVID


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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #233 on: August 27, 2021, 01:33:44 PM »
1. If someone makes an absurd claim, the only answer needed is " That's wrong".
2. LOL,  ;D But for people wanting me to STFU, they sure gave me a lot of replies. Hmmm ;)
3. We may disagree on some issues, but we don't resort to personal insult attacks. Thank you for that.

1.  Interesting to hear why you dismiss it as absurd.  My company has a 2 large India based offices, and they got crushed with the D variant.  Talked on the phone, IM'd with co workers and they said they were utilizing ivermectin with success.  Multiple, credible MDs have suggested it could be beneficial.   The drug has been safe and approved for some time now.  Anti inflammatory characteristics seem to be beneficial.  Why is this absurd?

2.  That's a defense a certain other poster uses.

3.  No problem.  Would rather counter folks with information.  Personal attacks are weak.....but this is getbig......so sometimes necessary.  ;D
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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #234 on: August 27, 2021, 01:49:59 PM »
I really don't have much more to say at this point.


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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #235 on: August 27, 2021, 01:54:16 PM »



You are onto something Thin Lizzy. Videos for Howard!



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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #236 on: August 27, 2021, 02:28:48 PM »
French news: ANTIVAXERS a legally defeating pro vaccines bans in several French towns (free access to cafes,markets,etc,.) just like before China Flu !.

Nationalism is winning over Macron & globalist  :D

More protests all over France !.


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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #237 on: August 27, 2021, 03:28:14 PM »
1.  Interesting to hear why you dismiss it as absurd.  My company has a 2 large India based offices, and they got crushed with the D variant.  Talked on the phone, IM'd with co workers and they said they were utilizing ivermectin with success.  Multiple, credible MDs have suggested it could be beneficial.   The drug has been safe and approved for some time now.  Anti inflammatory characteristics seem to be beneficial.  Why is this absurd?

2.  That's a defense a certain other poster uses.

3.  No problem.  Would rather counter folks with information.  Personal attacks are weak.....but this is getbig......so sometimes necessary.  ;D

1. ok

2. I was joking

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #238 on: August 27, 2021, 03:34:00 PM »


You are onto something Thin Lizzy. Videos for Howard!




I actually watched .
Catchy tune on what happens to a man when he only talks about bodybuilding and doesn't really train.

I like their hair styles but they need some serious bulking up .

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #239 on: August 27, 2021, 04:39:43 PM »

4. Right now, in my personal OPINION* , our best way out is for everyone to get a vaccine. If that doesn't work as expected, at least
    it's safe and we can go from there .


this statement is worth pondering as you refer to the ‘way out’.

The ‘way out’ i am sure is universally agreed to mean life goes back to how it was.

If we compare pre-vax to post-vax state, the highest vax rate countries in the world are under heavier restrictions and lockdowns than pre-vax period.

We have the outcome of the vaccine rollout on quality of life and it is worse. Therefore to associate a worse outcome as the ‘way out’ is an odd conclusion. If they said get vax’d and you can move around freely, sure, it would be correct.

if your ideal ‘way out’ means everyone is vaxxed and we are all under restrictions and lockdowns - because this is the outcome of vax and is therefore the proven outcome - you have a huge disconnect with what is going on around you socially and economically.

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #240 on: August 27, 2021, 05:40:18 PM »
Howard doesn’t have the background to understand what’s going on economically and financially and that there might be a reason other than seasonal flu to slow down the economy via restrictions:



The Fed's favorite inflation measure rose at fastest pace in 30 years in July - CNN

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/27/economy/inflation-incomes-july/index.html

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #241 on: August 27, 2021, 06:11:03 PM »
Howard is a lost cause. He refuses to be open to anything other than the stories he tells himself. Even if anyone offers up scientific facts, Howard disputes them because he only sees what he wants to. I am afraid that we have many like Howard in Australia. An example being: vaccines are safe so offer up your 16 or under children to be used in experimental trial.

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #242 on: August 27, 2021, 06:40:19 PM »
Howard is a lost cause. He refuses to be open to anything other than the stories he tells himself. Even if anyone offers up scientific facts, Howard disputes them because he only sees what he wants to. I am afraid that we have many like Howard in Australia. An example being: vaccines are safe so offer up your 16 or under children to be used in experimental trial.

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #243 on: August 27, 2021, 06:51:57 PM »
Howard doesn’t have the background to understand what’s going on economically and financially and that there might be a reason other than seasonal flu to slow down the economy via restrictions:



The Fed's favorite inflation measure rose at fastest pace in 30 years in July - CNN

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/27/economy/inflation-incomes-july/index.html

FYI COVID (seasonal flue  ::)) is a global. 

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #244 on: August 27, 2021, 07:07:28 PM »
Howard is a lost cause. He refuses to be open to anything other than the stories he tells himself. Even if anyone offers up scientific facts, Howard disputes them because he only sees what he wants to. I am afraid that we have many like Howard in Australia. An example being: vaccines are safe so offer up your 16 or under children to be used in experimental trial.

Howard, I and many others could say the same about those of you who feel differently about COVID, the vaccines and what are and aren't scientific facts. There's a slim chance that time will reveal who is correct. It is pointless to try to convince people of something they do not believe to be true in situations like this because there is little chance that would ever happen.

I am vaccinated and I wear a mask when and where appropriate. IMO, my chances of getting seriously ill from COVID are less than it is for those of you who are not vaccinated and who choose not to wear a mask. I have no doubt that you disagree with me on this. Never-the-less, I wish you good health happiness and eventual peace of mind.

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #245 on: August 27, 2021, 07:36:02 PM »
Howard, I and many others could say the same about those of you who feel differently about COVID, the vaccines and what are and aren't scientific facts. There's a slim chance that time will reveal who is correct. It is pointless to try to convince people of something they do not believe to be true in situations like this because there is little chance that would ever happen.

I am vaccinated and I wear a mask when and where appropriate. IMO, my chances of getting seriously ill from COVID are less than it is for those of you who are not vaccinated and who choose not to wear a mask. I have no doubt that you disagree with me on this. Never-the-less, I wish you good health happiness and eventual peace of mind.

You survived AIDS Covid. I suspect after a nuclear war it’ll be just you, a few turtles and cockroaches.

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« Reply #246 on: August 27, 2021, 07:58:27 PM »
Howard has demonstrated that he is not a highly educated person. He refuses to be scientific about diminished efficacy of current vaccines and alternatives to treatment and prophylactic protection. Shameful conduct in this thread. He keeps repeating his dogma like a religious fanatic.

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #247 on: August 27, 2021, 08:06:29 PM »
Howard, I and many others could say the same about those of you who feel differently about COVID, the vaccines and what are and aren't scientific facts. There's a slim chance that time will reveal who is correct. It is pointless to try to convince people of something they do not believe to be true in situations like this because there is little chance that would ever happen.

I am vaccinated and I wear a mask when and where appropriate. IMO, my chances of getting seriously ill from COVID are less than it is for those of you who are not vaccinated and who choose not to wear a mask. I have no doubt that you disagree with me on this. Never-the-less, I wish you good health happiness and eventual peace of mind.


Even vaccinated people should stay vigilant, said Dr. Gaby Sauza, 30, of Seattle, who was inoculated over the winter but tested positive for COVID-19 along with other guests days after an Aug. 14 Vermont wedding, even though the festivities were mostly outdoors and those attending had to submit photos of their vaccination cards.

“In retrospect, absolutely, I do wish I had worn a mask,” she said.

Sauza, a resident in pediatrics, will miss two weeks of hospital work and has wrestled with guilt over burdening her colleagues. She credits the vaccine with keeping her infection manageable, though she suffered several days of body aches, fevers, night sweats, fatigue, coughing and chest pain.

Fully vaccinated but had to go into quarantine, so what are Howard and you talking about?



Raven had similar symptoms and a quarantine without a unvax.  Assume both are healthy with nothing underlying conditions. Serum test/physical/history could have answered a lot of questions.

Outcome:  Raven antibody levels are pretty much the same months later.  Sauza is in line for her 3rd shot.  And from what I hearing #4 pay-per-shot is on the way.


Good Doc hasn't had another reinfection and still hasn't had one shot, or has he but his natural immune system has no problem identifying a poly-colony of viroids and reacting on it spontaneously?

 

 

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #248 on: August 27, 2021, 08:12:04 PM »
Howard, I and many others could say the same about those of you who feel differently about COVID, the vaccines and what are and aren't scientific facts. There's a slim chance that time will reveal who is correct. It is pointless to try to convince people of something they do not believe to be true in situations like this because there is little chance that would ever happen.

I am vaccinated and I wear a mask when and where appropriate. IMO, my chances of getting seriously ill from COVID are less than it is for those of you who are not vaccinated and who choose not to wear a mask. I have no doubt that you disagree with me on this. Never-the-less, I wish you good health happiness and eventual peace of mind.

The most striking difference between camps, however, is that the unvaxed tend, on the whole, to have their own reasons but basically think you should decide for yourself. By contrast, a lot of vaccinated people are complete fascists favoring all sorts of vaccine enforcement, and they seem to relish telling you that you're going to be forced to comply.

Thats a hard difference to miss. Not so much you yourself maybe but Howard for sure and many others. It's incredibly obnoxious and I can't believe people who aren't experts or authorities of any kind wouldn't be embarrassed to presume to tell others what to do, vocally pass unfavorable judgement, and generally be hostile and unpleasant. I'm saddened to see civility disappearing.

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Re: US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
« Reply #249 on: August 27, 2021, 09:31:50 PM »
The most striking difference between camps, however, is that the unvaxed tend, on the whole, to have their own reasons but basically think you should decide for yourself. By contrast, a lot of vaccinated people are complete fascists favoring all sorts of vaccine enforcement, and they seem to relish telling you that you're going to be forced to comply.

Thats a hard difference to miss. Not so much you yourself maybe but Howard for sure and many others. It's incredibly obnoxious and I can't believe people who aren't experts or authorities of any kind wouldn't be embarrassed to presume to tell others what to do, vocally pass unfavorable judgement, and generally be hostile and unpleasant. I'm saddened to see civility disappearing.

Science works by having an open forum where all data and theories can be checked and debated. The problem we have in the world at the moment concerning Covid-19 and variants is that Google, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, most of the TV stations and newspapers all follow WHO and CDC. This is sad and dangerous. WHO and CDC consider their information the truth and therefore everyone who has different opinions, no matter if supported by data and science, are considered misinformation and are deleted or censored.

We have to ask a serious question. Why are healthy people vaccinated in the first place? The old and vulnerable might have a good reason but everyone under 50, unless they have co-morbidities, don't have to be vaccinated. There is information out there thanks to the internet. There are true experts, doctors and scientists posting videos explaining what is happening and possible problems and dangers. Some are posting data that supports using alternative therapies and prophylactics. If you do enough research you will discover things are not as rosy as naive Howard presumes. Why is that? Well, WHO and CDC are mistaken in what they consider the truth. Will they change what they believe? If we wait long enough and if the disaster escalates then they will have no alternative.

The one thing that shouldn't be tampered with is natural immunity of children and adolescents. In NSW, Australia, the government recommended all year 12 students get vaccinated before their final exams in September. 3 teenagers died from the vaccine. I find this reprehensible and even criminal. I shake my head at the stupidity of all state and federal governments in Australia. The country doesn't exist anymore because NSW and Victoria residents can't freely travel to other states. The vaccination numbers are increasing by hundreds of thousands each week yet the infections in NSW keep getting higher. We have police and army helping the government implement lockdowns and restrictions. 9 weeks of lockdowns in Sydney. I mean, WTF is going on? A police state and the Delta virus keeps spreading. So the government increases restrictions and implements curfews. You aren't allowed to go anywhere after 9 pm until 5 am. Oh, they are doing this for our own good. Well, the experiments in Australia and New Zealand should be a warning to every other country. Did I mention that Australians can't leave the country as well? A complete prison run by a corrupt government, the police dummies and the dopey army.


https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-nsw-update-latest-sydney-low-covid-case-numbers-key-to-school-return/8e17de8a-a4eb-4aa8-bb6b-b8b70466f983