US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine (NOT!)

[Tapeworm]

I think it's likely I won't be permitted through the police roadblock next time there's a Perth metro/ wheatbelt lockdown without proof of vaccination.

[Moontrane]

I think it's likely I won't be permitted through the police roadblock next time there's a Perth metro/ wheatbelt lockdown without proof of vaccination.

The beatings shall continue until morale improves. 

Sorry that your government is doing this to you.

[G_Thang]

Contracting and beating COVID provides better protection against delta variant than Pfizer shot, new OLD research shows

The darkness is always forced into the light.


Catching and beating COVID-19 during one of the initial waves of the global health pandemic appears to provide more protection against the highly-contagious delta variant than both doses of the vaccine developed by Pfizer and BioNTech.

The largest real-world analysis comparing natural immunity and the protection provided by coronavirus vaccines revealed those who have received both jabs of Pfizer’s two-stick shot were almost six-fold more likely to contract a delta infection and seven-fold more likely to show symptoms and become hospitalized than those who have already recovered from COVID.

The paper, by researchers in Israel, also stands in contrast to past reports suggesting those who have been vaccinated are just as protected from the virus as those who have been infected with it.

Still have to incorporate Pharmacy pay-per-lies.  Natural immunity still does the trick vs. Delta and its' future offspring. Where are the serum test?  People are tired of this bullshit.

[booty]

Howard, I and many others could say the same about those of you who feel differently about COVID, the vaccines and what are and aren't scientific facts. There's a slim chance that time will reveal who is correct. It is pointless to try to convince people of something they do not believe to be true in situations like this because there is little chance that would ever happen.

I am vaccinated and I wear a mask when and where appropriate. IMO, my chances of getting seriously ill from COVID are less than it is for those of you who are not vaccinated and who choose not to wear a mask. I have no doubt that you disagree with me on this. Never-the-less, I wish you good health happiness and eventual peace of mind.

I believe in the science of wearing a mask so don’t assume that I don’t. When my mother was in ICU before Covid, I had to wear a mask around her. I think it’s common sense to have a barrier around your mouth and nose because all colds/ viruses spread from there. I believe that many vaccinated have a false sense of security because they’ve had the vaccine. And since you can catch and transmit it the same as someone like me who is not vaccinated, therefore your theory is untrue. I am not more likely to catch Covid. It all depends on our demographic and as I am in a lower density area, I am less likely.

[AbrahamG]

I believe in the science of wearing a mask so don’t assume that I don’t. When my mother was in ICU before Covid, I had to wear a mask around her. I think it’s common sense to have a barrier around your mouth and nose because all colds/ viruses spread from there. I believe that many vaccinated have a false sense of security because they’ve had the vaccine. And since you can catch and transmit it the same as someone like me who is not vaccinated, therefore your theory is untrue. I am not more likely to catch Covid. It all depends on our demographic and as I am in a lower density area, I am less likely.

If you and I went to an indoor event together and were both exposed to the same levels of covid-19, I'd be more protected from the virus.  Not even sure how you or anyone could argue that.  Assuming for the sake of argument that we were both as likely or unlikely to catch it and both caught it, it's 99.9 more likely that you'd have more problems than I would.  While I could still possibly give it to others again, you'd be much more likely to than me given that your viral loads would almost certainly be higher as my antibodies would kick in and diminish the effects of the virus. 

I'm sorry you guys are locked down.  That truly sucks and I don't like it.  I think mask mandates, distancing and even capacity limits are the better way to go.  Especially this far into the pandemic.  We agree on the common sense of masking up and while I can understand hesitancy about the vaccine, I cannot understand for the life of me the resistance to masks.  I hope that whatever landed your mother in the ICU is in the rear view mirror and that she is doing well. 

[Vince B]

This video changed my mind about the effectiveness of masks against getting infected with covid-19 or variants.

[AbrahamG]

This video changed my mind about the effectiveness of masks against getting infected with covid-19 or variants.

3 minutes of my life I can't get back.  Fucking quack.

[Rascal full]

I think it's likely I won't be permitted through the police roadblock next time there's a Perth metro/ wheatbelt lockdown without proof of vaccination.

WTF U are kidding me?! Slowly squeezing every avenue off so we are FORCED to get this cunting vacine!

[Rascal full]

This video changed my mind about the effectiveness of masks against getting infected with covid-19 or variants.

Good vid, these masks are total bs. Loads of terrified people out there wearing multiple masks, even wind-shield looking things, and all these poor buggers are freaking out scared of their fellow man.

[Rascal full]

If you and I went to an indoor event together and were both exposed to the same levels of covid-19, I'd be more protected from the virus.  Not even sure how you or anyone could argue that.  Assuming for the sake of argument that we were both as likely or unlikely to catch it and both caught it, it's 99.9 more likely that you'd have more problems than I would.  While I could still possibly give it to others again, you'd be much more likely to than me given that your viral loads would almost certainly be higher as my antibodies would kick in and diminish the effects of the virus. 

I'm sorry you guys are locked down.  That truly sucks and I don't like it.  I think mask mandates, distancing and even capacity limits are the better way to go.  Especially this far into the pandemic.  We agree on the common sense of masking up and while I can understand hesitancy about the vaccine, I cannot understand for the life of me the resistance to masks.  I hope that whatever landed your mother in the ICU is in the rear view mirror and that she is doing well.

Not having a pop at you but you pulled that stat out of your ass. You took the injection and you are no better off for it whatsoever. Stupid cunts that took it are dropping like fucking flies all over the world! 99% my arse just accept you were scammed and might die of some unknown disease and move on.

[Body-Buildah]

I wore masks in stores when required. If not, I did as always, stayed away from people.
Always hated kvnts anyways and stayed away, always practiced 'distancing'.

On the Vax, people need to stop saying "just get it" (Howard, etc). Its not up to you. Its very early and experimental.
Many drug trials have been pulled after a few years because of problems, this one "could" be like that (or not) no one knows.

I hope you "pushers" are right and it ends up being safe, as I know a lot of folks who have gotten it (family members, etc).
(A sibling just got it to travel, was horrificly sick for 2 weeks, hospital visit, etc after getting it). Travel was ruined and sick in hotel room for the duration.
Still battling the effects of it. Has never been sick during this whole RONA thing until getting it.

You think opeople are wacky for not getting it, just imagine how you are looked at trying to push it on others?
Take your Vax and move along, stop saying "just get the vax" its not your call...

[Rascal full]

I wore masks in stores when required. If not, I did as always, stayed away from people.
Always hated kvnts anyways and stayed away, always practiced 'distancing'.

On the Vax, people need to stop saying "just get it" (Howard, etc). Its not up to you. Its very early and experimental.
Many drug trials have been pulled after a few years because of problems, this one "could" be like that (or not) no one knows.

I hope you "pushers" are right and it ends up being safe, as I know a lot of folks who have gotten it (family members, etc).
(A sibling just got it to travel, was horrificly sick for 2 weeks, hospital visit, etc after getting it). Travel was ruined and sick in hotel room for the duration.
Still battling the effects of it. Has never been sick during this whole RONA thing until getting it.

You think opeople are wacky for not getting it, just imagine how you are looked at trying to push it on others?
Take your Vax and move along, stop saying "just get the vax" its not your call...

Well said, I totally agree. Is Howard telling people to get it? The fart guy?! If his brains were dynamite he couldn't even blow his wig off. No thanks, fuck off

[Vince B]

Well said, I totally agree. Is Howard telling people to get it? The fart guy?! If his brains were dynamite he couldn't even blow his wig off. No thanks, fuck off

Howard isn't a dumbass but he isn't thinking like a scientist. Ok, suppose Howard did his homework and concluded, "Yep, compelling reasons to get vaccinated." He then feels he has to help his fellow humans by warning them about dangers if unvaccinated. He is supported by his local doctor and WHO and even FDA. So far that is sensible behaviour. However, what Howard ignores are the many scientists and doctors who have different views about how to deal with Covid-19. He even dismisses them as misinformation. He should get a citation from WHO for helping his hapless fellow citizens.

I have studied the philosophy of science at the graduate level. What have I learned? Well, simply theories about science and even ordinary matters of fact can be wrong. Think about our opinions here on Getbig. No matter how strongly you believe something is no guarantee that you are right. You have to listen to opposing views. The scientist is always open to correcting false beliefs no matter how strongly he holds them. So the conclusion is that we all must be open to changing our beliefs if evidence supports the opposite of what we believe. We look for studies and embrace the latest data from around the world. Compelling evidence has to be accepted...eventually.

[G_Thang]

EU says the plant that produced 1.63 million Moderna doses Japan halted the use of because of possible contamination can keep producing vaccines

Japan had stopped the use of 1.63 million Moderna doses after possible contamination.
The EU said the plant manufacturing the COVID-19 vaccines can resume operations, Reuters reported.
"An investigation into the root cause is ongoing," the European Medicines Agency told Reuters.

No clue what caused the continuation but still pumping them out contaminated or not.

[Body-Buildah]

Howard isn't a dumbass but he isn't thinking like a scientist. Ok, suppose Howard did his homework and concluded, "Yep, compelling reasons to get vaccinated." He then feels he has to help his fellow humans by warning them about dangers if unvaccinated. He is supported by his local doctor and WHO and even FDA. So far that is sensible behaviour. However, what Howard ignores are the many scientists and doctors who have different views about how to deal with Covid-19. He even dismisses them as misinformation. He should get a citation from WHO for helping his hapless fellow citizens.

I have studied the philosophy of science at the graduate level. What have I learned? Well, simply theories about science and even ordinary matters of fact can be wrong. Think about our opinions here on Getbig. No matter how strongly you believe something is no guarantee that you are right. You have to listen to opposing views. The scientist is always open to correcting false beliefs no matter how strongly he holds them. So the conclusion is that we all must be open to changing our beliefs if evidence supports the opposite of what we believe. We look for studies and embrace the latest data from around the world. Compelling evidence has to be accepted...eventually.

Well said Vince. Makes a bit too much sense for GetBig, but yes, correct...

[booty]

If you and I went to an indoor event together and were both exposed to the same levels of covid-19, I'd be more protected from the virus.  Not even sure how you or anyone could argue that.  Assuming for the sake of argument that we were both as likely or unlikely to catch it and both caught it, it's 99.9 more likely that you'd have more problems than I would.  While I could still possibly give it to others again, you'd be much more likely to than me given that your viral loads would almost certainly be higher as my antibodies would kick in and diminish the effects of the virus. 

I'm sorry you guys are locked down.  That truly sucks and I don't like it.  I think mask mandates, distancing and even capacity limits are the better way to go.  Especially this far into the pandemic.  We agree on the common sense of masking up and while I can understand hesitancy about the vaccine, I cannot understand for the life of me the resistance to masks.  I hope that whatever landed your mother in the ICU is in the rear view mirror and that she is doing well.

Thank you… I watched my mother die. I know she wouldn’t believe in this Covid vaccine. I am certain of it.

[Thin Lizzy]

In New York City, the Howard types  are always preaching to the choir. In Howard’s neck of the woods the main holds out at this point are blacks in Atlanta. Howard should go there, preferably at night and brow beat them into getting vaxxed.

[booty]

Howard isn't a dumbass but he isn't thinking like a scientist. Ok, suppose Howard did his homework and concluded, "Yep, compelling reasons to get vaccinated." He then feels he has to help his fellow humans by warning them about dangers if unvaccinated. He is supported by his local doctor and WHO and even FDA. So far that is sensible behaviour. However, what Howard ignores are the many scientists and doctors who have different views about how to deal with Covid-19. He even dismisses them as misinformation. He should get a citation from WHO for helping his hapless fellow citizens.

I have studied the philosophy of science at the graduate level. What have I learned? Well, simply theories about science and even ordinary matters of fact can be wrong. Think about our opinions here on Getbig. No matter how strongly you believe something is no guarantee that you are right. You have to listen to opposing views. The scientist is always open to correcting false beliefs no matter how strongly he holds them. So the conclusion is that we all must be open to changing our beliefs if evidence supports the opposite of what we believe. We look for studies and embrace the latest data from around the world. Compelling evidence has to be accepted...eventually.

Howard cannot accept that he’s participated in a trial for an experimental drug. The unknown long term effects will only be known in a few years. And what’s worse is that the FDA are shady and not disclosing the truth. Even a very pro vaccine analyst/ doctor called Dr John Campbell has referred to the latest FDA info on the Pfizer approval as “sloppy at best.” 

[booty]

Not having a pop at you but you pulled that stat out of your ass. You took the injection and you are no better off for it whatsoever. Stupid cunts that took it are dropping like fucking flies all over the world! 99% my arse just accept you were scammed and might die of some unknown disease and move on.

The most vaccinated demographic area in Australia is seeing cases skyrocketing and they’ve been in lockdown for 9 weeks. A lockdown with curfews and only permitted for one hour a day outside for exercise.

[joswift]

This video changed my mind about the effectiveness of masks against getting infected with covid-19 or variants.

Post than on FB and it comes up as false information

Reason is they say its false is because masks can filter airbourne particles, whats also true is that the corovavirus molecules dont fall into the category of the airbourne particles that mention, they are smaller and as such as seen in the video they can pass through up to five masks at once.

[joswift]

https://www.facebook.com/david.hilton.142/videos/1201183580386712

[Vince B]

Howard cannot accept that he’s participated in a trial for an experimental drug. The unknown long term effects will only be known in a few years. And what’s worse is that the FDA are shady and not disclosing the truth. Even a very pro vaccine analyst/ doctor called Dr John Campbell has referred to the latest FDA info on the Pfizer approval as “sloppy at best.”

Dr John Campbell is very thorough and totally honest. Watch the video and see for yourself. Look at the latest figures from Israel. Very worrying, indeed.

[G_Thang]

Dr John Campbell is very thorough and totally honest. Watch the video and see for yourself. Look at the latest figures from Israel. Very worrying, indeed.

Where are the new figures? 

We need to give you a 3rd shot to get you back to 79.8%. Then, a 4th short 6-8 months later to get you back to 91-95% if we haven't fallen below 79.8% at a rate of ~6% by than again.

Public Outcome - The unvaccinated are causing the new variants even though they are testing negative based on weekly tests

That wasn't that hard.

[Rascal full]

Howard isn't a dumbass but he isn't thinking like a scientist. Ok, suppose Howard did his homework and concluded, "Yep, compelling reasons to get vaccinated." He then feels he has to help his fellow humans by warning them about dangers if unvaccinated. He is supported by his local doctor and WHO and even FDA. So far that is sensible behaviour. However, what Howard ignores are the many scientists and doctors who have different views about how to deal with Covid-19. He even dismisses them as misinformation. He should get a citation from WHO for helping his hapless fellow citizens.

I have studied the philosophy of science at the graduate level. What have I learned? Well, simply theories about science and even ordinary matters of fact can be wrong. Think about our opinions here on Getbig. No matter how strongly you believe something is no guarantee that you are right. You have to listen to opposing views. The scientist is always open to correcting false beliefs no matter how strongly he holds them. So the conclusion is that we all must be open to changing our beliefs if evidence supports the opposite of what we believe. We look for studies and embrace the latest data from around the world. Compelling evidence has to be accepted...eventually.

Good man, well said. I am really pleased there are still some free thinkers around who don't just mindlessly gulp down every morsel of MSM info, without even checking it out for themselves first.

[Tapeworm]

The beatings shall continue until morale improves. 

Sorry that your government is doing this to you.

It's a government. It's not necessarily my government.

Like the poet said, "I don't really need a leader. I'm good all on my own. I don't need to be led."

WTF U are kidding me?! Slowly squeezing every avenue off so we are FORCED to get this cunting vacine!

I might choose to get it someday purely on the basis of safety, efficacy, and medical necessity. Coercive measures provide no information about any of that so they won't factor in my decision. I'm Full Sheldon on this.