Why so many iron game deaths in 2021? Is it related to anything...

[SexyCustomSynthesis250]

Andy Haman - Did expos, nice fella - embolism
Phil Hernon - IFBB pro
John Meadows - Odd little red fella - embolism
Big Richard - Genova coat tail surfer
Alena Kosinova - IFBB Pro tartlet
Sofia Graham - NPC tartlet
Ilias Petsas - Mr Universe 1972 - COVID-19
Melissa Coates - Fitness model tartlet.
Alena Kosinova - IFBB tartlet
Orlando Gallucci - NPC - heart attack
Salah Hussein - IFBB - stroke
Megan Elizabeth - IFBB tartlet
Matt Mendenhall - IFBB
Senthil Kumaran Selvarajan - Mr India - heart attack
Fahd Zaid Hazzazi - IFBB
Lawrence Marshall - IFBB

[bhank]

Andy Haman - Did expos, nice fella - embolism
Phil Hernon - IFBB pro
John Meadows - Odd little red fella - embolism
Big Richard - Genova coat tail surfer
Alena Kosinova - IFBB Pro tartlet
Sofia Graham - NPC tartlet
Ilias Petsas - Mr Universe 1972 - COVID-19
Melissa Coates - Fitness model tartlet.
Alena Kosinova - IFBB tartlet
Orlando Gallucci - NPC - heart attack
Salah Hussein - IFBB - stroke
Megan Elizabeth - IFBB tartlet
Matt Mendenhall - IFBB
Senthil Kumaran Selvarajan - Mr India - heart attack
Fahd Zaid Hazzazi - IFBB
Lawrence Marshall - IFBB

People also die that don't lift weights it pretty much happens to everyone eventually

[SexyCustomSynthesis250]

People also die that don't lift weights it pretty much happens to everyone eventually

I'm leading up to a technical chat with some famous Getbiggers.
Are you qualified to be in this thread?

[SexyCustomSynthesis250]

Deaths seem to have gone up since the chinks released covid.

disproportionately hitting Caucasians too...

[MAXX]

Andy Haman - Did expos, nice fella - embolism
Phil Hernon - IFBB pro
John Meadows - Odd little red fella - embolism
Big Richard - Genova coat tail surfer
Alena Kosinova - IFBB Pro tartlet
Sofia Graham - NPC tartlet
Ilias Petsas - Mr Universe 1972 - COVID-19
Melissa Coates - Fitness model tartlet.
Alena Kosinova - IFBB tartlet
Orlando Gallucci - NPC - heart attack
Salah Hussein - IFBB - stroke
Megan Elizabeth - IFBB tartlet
Matt Mendenhall - IFBB
Senthil Kumaran Selvarajan - Mr India - heart attack
Fahd Zaid Hazzazi - IFBB
Lawrence Marshall - IFBB

what's the ages of all these people?

it would be interesting to see what the average age of death is.

[SexyCustomSynthesis250]

what's the ages of all these people?

it would be interesting to see what the average age of death is.

with a cursory glance, I'd say about 38
Two were in their early 70s if I recall, with the others ranging from twenties to fifties
I honestly can't be fucked to figure it out though 

[nerdoldnerdith]

Yup. In 2020 when COVID was supposedly ravaging the world, hardly anyone of note died. Not just in bodybuilding, but in general. You look up the celebrities who died of COVID and it's just a bunch of D-listers in their 80's and 90's. Now 2021 comes around and we have a mystery cocktail vaccine being forced upon us and otherwise healthy people are dropping dead left and right, not from COVID mind you, but from other mysterious causes.

Nothing to see here folks.

[SexyCustomSynthesis250]

Yup. In 2020 when COVID was supposedly ravaging the world, hardly anyone of note died. Not just in bodybuilding, but in general. You look up the celebrities who died of COVID and it's just a bunch of D-listers in their 80's and 90's. Now 2021 comes around and we have a mystery cocktail vaccine being forced upon us and otherwise healthy people are dropping dead left and right, not from COVID mind you, but from other mysterious causes.

Nothing to see here folks.

have you seen the figures for vehicle accidents since COVID-19 vaccines began?

They're up 21%

https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/motor-vehicle/overview/preliminary-monthly-estimates/
 

[Humble Narcissist]

Yup. In 2020 when COVID was supposedly ravaging the world, hardly anyone of note died. Not just in bodybuilding, but in general. You look up the celebrities who died of COVID and it's just a bunch of D-listers in their 80's and 90's. Now 2021 comes around and we have a mystery cocktail vaccine being forced upon us and otherwise healthy people are dropping dead left and right, not from COVID mind you, but from other mysterious causes.

Nothing to see here folks.

Interesting observation.  We will see if it continues to play out.

[MAXX]

Ron CNBA to sticky even high profile deaths anymore because there's so many of them now 

[pamith]

Possibly the covid shot but I'm not sure

[nerdoldnerdith]

have you seen the figures for vehicle accidents since COVID-19 vaccines began?

They're up 21%

https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/motor-vehicle/overview/preliminary-monthly-estimates/
 

This is something I witness personally whenever I go out. I see people running red lights and generally just driving like maniacs every time I get on the road. A few months ago I saw a guy running a red light T bone the car in front of me - like he didn't see the red light or just thought he'd try to drive through the traffic like he's James Bond. Yesterday I saw someone drive into a bus stop, knock it over and break the glass, and just drive away.

Lots of maniacs out there nowadays. Either that or they are zombies.

[SexyCustomSynthesis250]

This is something I witness personally whenever I go out. I see people running red lights and generally just driving like maniacs every time I get on the road. A few months ago I saw a guy running a red light T bone the car in front of me - like he didn't see the red light or just thought he'd try to drive through the traffic like he's James Bond. Yesterday I saw someone drive into a bus stop, knock it over and break the glass, and just drive away.

Lots of maniacs out there nowadays. Either that or they are zombies.

Sars-cov-2/variants inducing increased BBB permeability, endolithial dysfunction and prion damage... zombies made manifest 

[Thin Lizzy]

Yup. In 2020 when COVID was supposedly ravaging the world, hardly anyone of note died. Not just in bodybuilding, but in general. You look up the celebrities who died of COVID and it's just a bunch of D-listers in their 80's and 90's. Now 2021 comes around and we have a mystery cocktail vaccine being forced upon us and otherwise healthy people are dropping dead left and right, not from COVID mind you, but from other mysterious causes.

Nothing to see here folks.

I can tell you firsthand that the Karen population in New York City has remained impervious to both Covid and vaccines.😥

[Body-Buildah]

This is something I witness personally whenever I go out. I see people running red lights and generally just driving like maniacs every time I get on the road. A few months ago I saw a guy running a red light T bone the car in front of me - like he didn't see the red light or just thought he'd try to drive through the traffic like he's James Bond. Yesterday I saw someone drive into a bus stop, knock it over and break the glass, and just drive away.

Lots of maniacs out there nowadays. Either that or they are zombies.

Flying around town while looking at phone. Brain-dead zombie-kuntz...

[Bevo]

People also die that don't lift weights it pretty much happens to everyone eventually

You have nothing to worry about, you are all natural

[bhank]

I'm leading up to a technical chat with some famous Getbiggers.
Are you qualified to be in this thread?

More qualified than the average getbigger who can barely read yes

[SexyCustomSynthesis250]

More qualified than the average getbigger who can barely read yes

solid sumise indeed
Hopefully Van Bilderas will pop in at some point too

[denarii]

They didn't go far enough. Dave Palumbo has shown that if you reach the steriod abuse level necessary to develop Palumboism it makes you a near immortal.

[Van_Bilderass]

IMO nothing happened. It's made me irritated to see all these comments of, "what's going on, bodybuilders are dropping like flies." In reality only a few died, most likely no more than average. If they wanted to dig deeper they could've added to the list for sure. "What's going on, this IG page is like an obituary page, I'm going to stop following you, something needs to be done about all these deaths." No, you're not going to stop following, tragedy tickles the senses, it's exciting as unfortunate as that is - it's tragedy porn and it sells.

If a hot batch of gear ripped through the bodybuilding industry, stuff that killed people, like for example extra potent fentanyl laced heroin does in the dope world, then we could be talking of "what it's related to."

[SexyCustomSynthesis250]

IMO nothing happened. It's made me irritated to see all these comments of, "what's going on, bodybuilders are dropping like flies." In reality only a few died, most likely no more than average. If they wanted to dig deeper they could've added to the list for sure. "What's going on, this IG page is like an obituary page, I'm going to stop following you, something needs to be done about all these deaths." No, you're not going to stop following, tragedy tickles the senses, it's exciting as unfortunate as that is - it's tragedy porn and it sells.

If a hot batch of gear ripped through the bodybuilding industry, stuff that killed people, like for example extra potent fentanyl laced heroin does in the dope world, then we could be talking of "what it's related to."

point to any year past where at least twenty IFBB/NPC level Bodybuilders have died, much less from thrombotic, embolism related conditions?
If anything, if your point was valid we'd see the above listed names accompanied by a slew of Instagram nobodies, of whom I'm sure are there, but the accompanying presence of which validates my point rather than yours.

[Body-Buildah]

90's guys are getting older, the drug game stepped up in the 90's. 70's/80's guys live longer, less drug abuse.
This generation of UGL gear running IG/FB lunatics, they'll start dropping in their 40's.

Decades of outside hormone use (large doses) methylated orals, rec-drugs, etc. Catching up to the guys who upped the drug game in the 90's.

Poison

[funk51]

 

[Van_Bilderass]

point to any year past where at least twenty IFBB/NPC level Bodybuilders have died, much less from thrombotic, embolism related conditions?
If anything, if your point was valid we'd see the above listed names accompanied by a slew of Instagram nobodies, of whom I'm sure are there, but the accompanying presence of which validates my point rather than yours.

So your suspicion is that Covid or the vaccines are driving these thrombotic events? Are they all really due to thrombosis?

The drug use certainly didn't change. SERMs and perhaps steroids increase thrombotic events. Meadows had reportedly used a lot of tamoxifen before his heart attack. But if drugs are responsible why the large uptick in these events? SERM use has gone down with the advent of AIs.

With the Covid and vaccines people are never going to change their opinions. They can look at the same data and draw completely opposite conclusions. Have the vaccines already killed hundreds of thousands as some claim? Or have they saved hundreds of thousands of lives? Seems almost useless to debate as people don't ever seem to switch sides.

[IRON CROSS]

what's the ages of all these people?

it would be interesting to see what the average age of death is.

E.Petsas Nabba Mr.Universe must + 70