I bet half of you didn't even lift today

[Soul Crusher]

Chest + Abs:
Dumbell Flyes - 10 X 10 ....constant weight....40 second rest periods between sets....by set number 4 the weight was getting heavy....by the last set my pecs were screaming.....just something different since I`m a bit limited training at home plus it was intense, painful, and quick

Crunches- 5 X failure

TRAIN HARD

Nice - less rest is good. 

[bhank]

Chest + Abs:
Dumbell Flyes - 10 X 10 ....constant weight....40 second rest periods between sets....by set number 4 the weight was getting heavy....by the last set my pecs were screaming.....just something different since I`m a bit limited training at home plus it was intense, painful, and quick

Crunches- 5 X failure

TRAIN HARD

So when I train 100 reps plus one exercise at home Wes says I am a pussy who doesn't train hard. When Wes does it he is an innovator training intensely? Strange how his something different that he found out is intense and painful is the exact same shit I am doing that he said was lazy pussy training. Fucker is literally shitting on my training methodology then using it and claiming its awesome and different like he came up with it. I have been doing one exercise high rep 10 sets of 10 style workouts and posting them for a year and this fucker has been calling it bullshit lazy style pussy training turns out he has been taking notes the entire time.

[Krankenstein]

So when I train 100 reps plus one exercise at home Wes says I am a pussy who doesn't train hard. When Wes does it he is an innovator training intensely? Strange how his something different that he found out is intense and painful is the exact same shit I am doing that he said was lazy pussy training. Fucker is literally shitting on my training methodology then using it and claiming its awesome and different like he came up with it. I have been doing one exercise high rep 10 sets of 10 style workouts and posting them for a year and this fucker has been calling it bullshit lazy style pussy training turns out he has been taking notes the entire time.

So when did you specifically come up with the entirely new, awesome, entirely great, never thought of before, innovative, purely genius training methodology?

[wes]

So when I train 100 reps plus one exercise at home Wes says I am a pussy who doesn't train hard. When Wes does it he is an innovator training intensely? Strange how his something different that he found out is intense and painful is the exact same shit I am doing that he said was lazy pussy training. Fucker is literally shitting on my training methodology then using it and claiming its awesome and different like he came up with it. I have been doing one exercise high rep 10 sets of 10 style workouts and posting them for a year and this fucker has been calling it bullshit lazy style pussy training turns out he has been taking notes the entire time.

You yourelf said you watch TV between sets....I rested only forty seconds.

Besides this is nothing new it` been around forever... what I meant about your so called "training methodology" was that most people count total sets not total reps per bodypart.....as in 5 sets of 5 reps not I did 25 reps....of what how many sets and how many reps per set....kind of vague?

Anyway, go fuck yourself loser.

[wes]

Trust me Hanky I would never take notes or emulate anything you did.

Vince Gorinda was one of the first guys to use this system and like I said you`d come on here and say I did 555 rep for biceps....of what exercises, was it all in one set or multiple exercises done in seperate sets?

I forgot more about hard training than you could ever dream of knowing and even at my age I bet I would train you into the ground.....it`s always ben a goal of mine to torture a training partner and I`ve made plenty of them pussy out like I know you would.....I train totally differently now that I`m older.

You sir can go suck a dick.

[Soul Crusher]

So when did you specifically come up with the entirely new, awesome, entirely great, never thought of before, innovative, purely genius training methodology?

1994 Flex Mag page 187 - Paul Dillett sample workout. 

[Soul Crusher]

You yourelf said you watch TV between sets....I rested only forty seconds.

Besides this is nothing new it` been around forever... what I meant about your so called "training methodology" was that most people count total sets not total reps per bodypart.....as in 5 sets of 5 reps not I did 25 reps....of what how many sets and how many reps per set....kind of vague?

Anyway, go fuck yourself loser.

Training time for me is completely dialed the F in.  No TV, no phone, just relentless assault all out.   And then, just finish, shower, go to work.   

[wes]

Training time for me is completely dialed the F in.  No TV, no phone, just relentless assault all out.   And then, just finish, shower, go to work.   

Same here I stay focused......I`m training to put in the work....no halfstepping.

[Soul Crusher]

Same here I stay focused......I`m training to put in the work....no halfstepping.

Some just want a certain look and looking to do as little as possible to get it and hate hard FNG work.  Others seek out the hard work and know it is not all about a look or asthetics but the feeling of discipline, accomplishment, pushing ones self past perceived limitations, etc. 

[wes]

Some just want a certain look and looking to do as little as possible to get it and hate hard FNG work.  Others seek out the hard work and know it is not all about a look or asthetics but the feeling of discipline, accomplishment, pushing ones self past perceived limitations, etc. 

When I was younger I would do six leg exercises in a row moving from exercise to exercise without rest, then I would do it again with added weight to each movement, repeat it again with more added weight....once more with added weight, then I would drop back down to the original weight and just do a widowmaker on each exercise.....I burnt out a lot of guys who thought they could hang with me.

Also used to do drop-sets, triple drop-sets, super - sets tri-sets, giant-sets, one and a half rep equals one rep {BRUTAL TRY IT}......and a lot of other crazy fast training intensity techniques stuff with very little rest......I loved to train hard and to see how much I could stand.

Now I do far less as I got older but I still push myself and still don`t rest a lot between sets.

[bhank]

Some just want a certain look and looking to do as little as possible to get it and hate hard FNG work.  Others seek out the hard work and know it is not all about a look or asthetics but the feeling of discipline, accomplishment, pushing ones self past perceived limitations, etc.

I don't know I am kind of hearing a back handed insult here. As Wes just attested a single exercise for 100 reps can be a painfully intense workout. I do not believe you need to exercise for a certain amount of time or do a particular number of exercises to qualify as hard work. WTF you choose do between your sets also has fuck all to do with anything. If you are focused during your set you can get an intense hard workout without thousands of sets reps and hours of cardio. Sometimes it isn't about working hard it is about working smart and figuring out what your body responds to if conventional wisdom says do one thing and you have been doing it and it doesn't work for you try something else. I think it is best to do some high rep, some low rep, some single exercise, some multi exercise, some compound, some isolation, some free some machine and yes even some walking cardio for digestion although lifting is your real cardio try to get a little bit of it all just like food.

[bhank]

When I was younger I would do six leg exercises in a row moving from exercise to exercise without rest, then I would do it again with added weight to each movement, repeat it again with more added weight....once more with added weight, then I would drop back down to the original weight and just do a widowmaker on each exercise.....I burnt out a lot of guys who thought they could hang with me.

Also used to do drop-sets, triple drop-sets, super - sets tri-sets, giant-sets, one and a half rep equals one rep {BRUTAL TRY IT}......and a lot of other crazy fast training intensity techniques stuff with very little rest......I loved to train hard and to see how much I could stand.

Now I do far less as I got older but I still push myself and still don`t rest a lot between sets.

This is why you never added an ounce of size never grew your legs competed at 150lbs you didn't just burn out training partners you burned out yourself. Your body was too busy healing to grow. This is not the way to train if you are 150lbs ectomorph who is struggling to gain weight which you clearly were talking about your bird like structure how about your starvation ration diets and obvious overtraining? No wonder you were and are fucking petite. You were overtrained and underfed and under rested so cliche and talking about how hardcore you were for training yourself to childlike proportions combined with your anorexic diet. lol You would have made twice as much progress training half as much and eating twice as much You Fucking Dumbass

[Soul Crusher]

I don't know I am kind of hearing a back handed insult here. As Wes just attested a single exercise for 100 reps can be a painfully intense workout. I do not believe you need to exercise for a certain amount of time or do a particular number of exercises to qualify as hard work. WTF you choose do between your sets also has fuck all to do with anything. If you are focused during your set you can get an intense hard workout without thousands of sets reps and hours of cardio. Sometimes it isn't about working hard it is about working smart and figuring out what your body responds to if conventional wisdom says do one thing and you have been doing it and it doesn't work for you try something else. I think it is best to do some high rep, some low rep, some single exercise, some multi exercise, some compound, some isolation, some free some machine and yes even some walking cardio for digestion although lifting is your real cardio try to get a little bit of it all just like food.

Not at all - training is not BB asthetics or nothing for everyone.  Some just want a look - just go to the gram and yikes pathetic. 

Many have different reasons for training far beyond just looking a certain way day to day. 

For some - they train for the look.   Others train for other reasons and the look is a side benefit.  Its a completely different mentality and approach to this. 

I've done both.  For myself, training is a mental endeavor to balance off life stress, etc.  I'm not going for a look or to impress anyone but myself, not in look, but performance and self assessment overall.   Can I do 50 PU no stop?  Can I do 10 pull ups?   Can I bang out 225 on bench x 10 like nothing?   Can I go go go go for an hour or two with no rest?   Can I hang in there with both the strong power dudes and the cardio bunnies same time? 

Just trying to be best version of self overall possible with what time have at this.   Going to be 47 in a month - and still trying my best and still exploring different ways to get there.   

When training is life, you always believe the best is still to come.   It probably is not, but that does not mean you stop seeking it. 

 

[wes]

This is why you never added an ounce of size never grew your legs competed at 150lbs you didn't just burn out training partners you burned out yourself. Your body was too busy healing to grow. This is not the way to train if you are 150lbs ectomorph who is struggling to gain weight which you clearly were talking about your bird like structure how about your starvation ration diets and obvious overtraining? No wonder you were and are fucking petite. You were overtrained and underfed and under rested so cliche and talking about how hardcore you were for training yourself to childlike proportions combined with your anorexic diet. lol You would have made twice as much progress training half as much and eating twice as much You Fucking Dumbass

Hey I missed a hundred years of training due to alcoholism and addiction and started back at 38 years of age....considering that almost every contest I did I was forty or older and into my late  fifties I think I did OK winning 67 trophies...lets see you do better in such a short period of time.

And no I don`t blame anyone for my addiction except me but it is what it is, and just an FYI..... I never tried to get huge I was just happy to be alive and given a reprieve, also I don`t think I could ever have gotten really big with my frame unless I shot gear around the clock.

I don`t care what a guy like you who won four last place medal thinks about me who competed in over sixty contests late in my life.

And as far as your comment on your glutes getting like an old mans ass.....you`re not old you`re only 44....I`ll be 67 in June and my ass is like fucking steel.....you just gotta` squat lower and stop doing partial reps with baby weight.

[wes]

lol You would have made twice as much progress training half as much and eating twice as much You Fucking Dumbass

How do you know, you`re not a big guy at all, you act like you`re huge or some shit ....your fucking torso is no bigger than mine,....ripped and torn bodyparts....non existant legs, cant pose,wide GH waistline, HUGE fucking head.... and I look better than you though you outweigh me by quite a bit......I showed you pics of me beating guys bigger than you.

Plus I`d rather train as hard as possible than watch TV for ten minutes between sets.....WOW don`t be too intense we wouldn`t want to break a nail or get a callous on your hand....Masters Nats what a joke LOL  ....you`re not a bodybuilder you eat junk all day and train like a wuss.

Bigger bodyparts can take and often demand more work but you do jackshit in the number of sets for your legs and back and more sets for biceps than the bigger parts that you are lacking in.....you fucking genius. 

[King Shizzo]

This is why you never added an ounce of size never grew your legs competed at 150lbs you didn't just burn out training partners you burned out yourself. Your body was too busy healing to grow. This is not the way to train if you are 150lbs ectomorph who is struggling to gain weight which you clearly were talking about your bird like structure how about your starvation ration diets and obvious overtraining? No wonder you were and are fucking petite. You were overtrained and underfed and under rested so cliche and talking about how hardcore you were for training yourself to childlike proportions combined with your anorexic diet. lol You would have made twice as much progress training half as much and eating twice as much You Fucking Dumbass

Dude, please stop. Wes was far better than you will ever be.

I'm sure he could have upped the dose, and played Russian roulette with his life, but he didn't. Not to mention, he was from the more classical age of bodybuilding. You are not impressive, and we all know you take steroids. As people have said before, the only thing you have going for you, is that you are lean. Otherwise, you look like a beef jerkyied, Frankenstein ensemble of body parts.

You also look like Kelsy Grammar's down syndrome son.

[Soul Crusher]

Hey I missed a hundred years of training due to alcoholism and addiction and started back at 38 years of age....considering that almost every contest I did I was forty or older and into my late  fifties I think I did OK winning 67 trophies...lets see you do better in such a short period of time.

And no I don`t blame anyone for my addiction except me but it is what it is, and just an FYI..... I never tried to get huge I was just happy to be alive and given a reprieve, also I don`t think I could ever have gotten really big with my frame unless I shot gear around the clock.

I don`t care what a guy like you who won four last place medal thinks about me who competed in over sixty contests late in my life.

And as far as your comment on your glutes getting like an old mans ass.....you`re not old you`re only 44....I`ll be 67 in June and my ass is like fucking steel.....you just gotta` squat lower and stop doing partial reps with baby weight.

Bravo.   You get it.  Training is our church, its our place of peace and sanctuary, its a release and escape from other crap in the world and life. 

[Gym-Rat]

Otherwise, you look like a beef jerkyied, Frankenstein ensemble of body parts.

You also look like Kelsy Grammar's down syndrome son.

OMG   

Im liking this guy more and more each time I read his posts, LOL ^^^

Hysterical Shizzo!

[Taffin]

Hey I missed a hundred years of training due to alcoholism and addiction and started back at 38 years of age....considering that almost every contest I did I was forty or older and into my late  fifties I think I did OK winning 67 trophies...lets see you do better in such a short period of time.

And no I don`t blame anyone for my addiction except me but it is what it is, and just an FYI..... I never tried to get huge I was just happy to be alive and given a reprieve, also I don`t think I could ever have gotten really big with my frame unless I shot gear around the clock.

I don`t care what a guy like you who won four last place medal thinks about me who competed in over sixty contests late in my life.

And as far as your comment on your glutes getting like an old mans ass.....you`re not old you`re only 44....I`ll be 67 in June and my ass is like fucking steel.....you just gotta` squat lower and stop doing partial reps with baby weight.

Parsh.

No h0mo.

 

[Taffin]

Bravo.   You get it.  Training is our church, its our place of peace and sanctuary, its a release and escape from other crap in the world and life.

Brava!

Also, you could substitute the word 'GetBig' for 'Training' in that above sentence for me  (typing that made me feel a teensy bit emotional, maybe my Estrogen is high or something )

[GymnJuice]

Who is the fucking troll here you don't even workout and are on a thread arguing about workouts and diet on a bodybuilding forum you are the troll. I don't have time to explain every concept to someone who doesn't even train of course you don't fucking get it. Then you want to argue and debate and give advice like you think you know something gtfo have you ever had an infection do you have any exp in what I am talkign about fuck no you don't they absolutely can cause fever and hot flashes.

"Any infection that causes a fever can trigger hot flashes. The body’s temperature can rise as it tries to kill off a viral or bacterial infection. If an infection is the cause of your hot flashes, you may also experience other symptoms such as fatigue, joint aches, and sweating."

I had a Mersa infection in the same quad once I wound up spending 3 days in the hospital hooked up to an IV drip and getting a chunk cut out of my leg. I nearly died I was delirious for 48 hours. Infections can kill you quickly. They also have a tendency to come back.

You gotta be trolling. I've never heard a man complain of hot flashes when he is having a fever. He says that he's having a fever. Or sweats. Calling it hot flashes is something a woman does when she's going through menopause. It doesn't matter what wikipedia or whatever says. Men do not call it this. This is like when you said your bleeding was "in remission."

[Soul Crusher]

Brava!

Also, you could substitute the word 'GetBig' for 'Training' in that above sentence for me  (typing that made me feel a teensy bit emotional, maybe my Estrogen is high or something )

Oh Getbig is the place i tell no one else about so it can remain as it is.  This place is the last bastion of freedom and hilarity on the internet. 

[wes]

You also look like Kelsy Grammar's down syndrome son.

[wes]

Bravo.   You get it.  Training is our church, its our place of peace and sanctuary, its a release and escape from other crap in the world and life. 

Hell yeah my brother in iron !!!

[wes]

Parsh.

No h0mo.