Covid vaccine efficacy sux

[OAK]

there have been more side effects in the UK from this "vaccine" in the last 8 months that every other vaccine in history since vaccinations began combined.

Any stats backing your claim?

[joswift]

Western Cape update: ‘Third wave’ is now officially over, as the 7 day average of new cases drops below 15% of the peak.
South Africa has a relatively small % of its population vaccinated relative to most developed countries. But it also has far higher seroprevalence levels (ie, those already exposed to Covid). Levels similar to vaccinations in developed countries.
As we’ve reported already, multiple studies show that:
1. Natural infection gives far broader immunity than vaccine-induced immunity – for death, serious illness and mild / asymptomatic illness
2. Vaccine immunity wanes fast – a matter of months – while immunity from natural infection last far longer (T-cells etc) – with some protection likely lasting several years
3. The vaccines show poor efficacy against transmission (see Israel, UK and others)
With its exceptionally high seroprevalence levels, South Africa should be far more resilient to future resurgences than highly vaccinated countries currently are.
That South Africa is on many countries' ‘red list’ is a disgrace. The Delta variant is dominant in every country. Countries in any case demand a negative test to enter. How can an arrival from South Africa with a negative test to (say) the UK, possibly pose a threat to the UK?
Just ‘following the science’?

[OAK]

Western Cape update: ‘Third wave’ is now officially over, as the 7 day average of new cases drops below 15% of the peak.
South Africa has a relatively small % of its population vaccinated relative to most developed countries. But it also has far higher seroprevalence levels (ie, those already exposed to Covid). Levels similar to vaccinations in developed countries.
As we’ve reported already, multiple studies show that:
1. Natural infection gives far broader immunity than vaccine-induced immunity – for death, serious illness and mild / asymptomatic illness
2. Vaccine immunity wanes fast – a matter of months – while immunity from natural infection last far longer (T-cells etc) – with some protection likely lasting several years
3. The vaccines show poor efficacy against transmission (see Israel, UK and others)
With its exceptionally high seroprevalence levels, South Africa should be far more resilient to future resurgences than highly vaccinated countries currently are.
That South Africa is on many countries' ‘red list’ is a disgrace. The Delta variant is dominant in every country. Countries in any case demand a negative test to enter. How can an arrival from South Africa with a negative test to (say) the UK, possibly pose a threat to the UK?
Just ‘following the science’?

And this shows "there have been more side effects in the UK from this "vaccine" in the last 8 months that every other vaccine in history since vaccinations began combined."

 

[Mayday]

I believe the timing of the vaccines is what is making people sick rather than the actual vaccine itself.

Initially we did see death rates improve and also a reduction of severity. Then it was pushed for quick succession of doses, then 3, then 4, then 5 in some cases and the rates skyrocketed.

The data did a 180 the moment the govts begun forcing it out to people with time in mind rather than an actual healthy outcome.

Govt are looking at data and see cases rise then conclude more vaccines are needed….cases rise… more and more vaccines are needed and FAST!

Incorrect. You begin a vaccine program in late Spring/Summer when immune systems are generally better and people healthier which allows people to have time before getting the 2nd dose while still in a healthy seasonal period. The data I posted in the other thread supports this as it’s clear as day the Vax are getting really sick.

[joswift]

And this shows "there have been more side effects in the UK from this "vaccine" in the last 8 months that every other vaccine in history since vaccinations began combined."

 

it was a seperate post numbnuts I didnt quote you did I

Here you are
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK236284/

[joswift]

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1020030/COVID-19_mRNA_Pfizer-_BioNTech_vaccine_analysis_print.pdf

[bhank]

Fuck you Fuck your Covid and Fuck your Vaccine damn government engineered this shit and now want me to take their shot hell no

[Primemuscle]

OMG!!!

Have you not yet figured out that arguing with uninformed idiots is a waste of time and energy? 

[Primemuscle]

It seems like the vaccine is effective but only until you get infected

Really? If infected people who were vaccinated primarily get a mild case of COVID-19 while a large number those who get so sick that they are hospitalized and frequently die from COVID-19 are unvaccinated, it is effective...very effective.   

[Primemuscle]

Help me with the research.  All the vaccines I got as a baby only work if everyone else has them?  So, if I go on vacation to a shithole country I can still get polio if the locals aren't vaccinated?

Yes.

[Hypertrophy]

Really? If infected people who were vaccinated primarily get a mild case of COVID-19 while a large number of so sick that they are hospitalized and who frequently die from COVID-19 are unvaccinated, it is effective...very effective.   

It's not. The data is hidden in the VAERS database, or not reported at all. The vaccine does nothing positive but make people fall in line like sheep.

[joswift]

Yes.

what are the odds?

[Hypertrophy]

Yes.

No- no one knows the lifetime of polio vaccine immunity.  When I went to Africa for an extended trip, going to countries that even had Ebola, there was no need for a booster polio vaccine. none, nada, zip. I got shots for Dengue fever and the like, however since they are tropical disease we wouldn't have an immunity for.

[Primemuscle]

It's not. The data is hidden in the VAERS database, or not reported at all. The vaccine does nothing positive but make people fall in line like sheep.

How do you know the data is hidden in the VAERS database? If the side effects are severe enough that you go to the doctor, it gets reported to VAERS whether you do so or not. It is very unlikely serious side effects are not being reported.

Healthcare providers are required to report to VAERS the following adverse events after COVID-19 vaccination [under Emergency Use Authorization (EUA)], and other adverse events if later revised by CDC:

* Vaccine administration errors, whether or not associated with an adverse event (AE)
* Serious AEs regardless of causality. Serious AEs per FDA are defined as:
      1.Death;
      2. A life-threatening AE;
      3. Inpatient hospitalization or prolongation of existing hospitalization;
      4. A persistent or significant incapacity or substantial disruption of the ability to conduct normal life functions;
      5. A congenital anomaly/birth defect;
      6. An important medical event that based on appropriate medical judgement may jeopardize the individual and may require medical or surgical
          intervention to prevent one of the outcomes listed above.
* Cases of Multisystem Inflammatory Syndrome
* Cases of COVID-19 that result in hospitalization or death

[Primemuscle]

No- no one knows the lifetime of polio vaccine immunity.  When I went to Africa for an extended trip, going to countries that even had Ebola, there was no need for a booster polio vaccine. none, nada, zip. I got shots for Dengue fever and the like, however since they are tropical disease we wouldn't have an immunity for.

Yes- According to the CDC

"Adults who completed the polio vaccine series as children and are traveling to areas with increased risk of polio should receive a one-time booster dose of vaccine (IPV)."

Yes- according to the WHO

"Poliovirus infection can provide lifelong immunity against the disease, but this protection is limited to the particular type of poliovirus involved (Type 1, 2, or 3). Infection with one type does not protect an individual against infection with the other two types."

[OAK]

Have you not yet figured out that arguing with uninformed idiots is a waste of time and energy?

Haha...I see that now! 

It sucks when you win an argument and the other person isn't smart enough to realize that they lost...and they keep on arguing.

[Primemuscle]

Fuck you Fuck your Covid and Fuck your Vaccine damn government engineered this shit and now want me to take their shot hell no

Well, you live on Kitty Hawk. If there's a COVID-19 outbreak there caused by someone not vaccinated, like you, The government will quarantine the whole damn island. 

[WeightPSHR]

Really? If infected people who were vaccinated primarily get a mild case of COVID-19 while a large number of so sick that they are hospitalized and who frequently die from COVID-19 are unvaccinated, it is effective...very effective.   

Do you know how many unvaccinated people who get covid recover without hospitalization or medical treatment?

Funny, I can't seem to find that number anywhere.

[Primemuscle]

Haha...I see that now! 

It sucks when you win an argument and the other person isn't smart enough to realize that they lost...and they keep on arguing.

Happens around here all the time. 

Hope you know I was razzing you because I too have discord with the same Getbig folks on the same issues ad nauseum. I'm beginning to think it is a side effect of avoiding a COVID-19 contraction which results in too much boring time to fritter away in the relative safety of my own home.   

[OAK]

Happens around here all the time. 

Hope you know I was razzing you because I too have discord with the same Getbig folks on the same issues ad nauseum. I'm beginning to think it is a side effect of avoiding a COVID-19 contraction which results in too much boring time to fritter away in the relative safety of my own home.   

For sure. I'm only half serious here.

What really sucks is the before COVID all of us got along. Not anymore. 

[SOMEPARTS]

For sure. I'm only half serious here.

What really sucks is the before COVID all of us got along. Not anymore. 

DUH. It's being used for political reasons.

[Primemuscle]

Do you know how many unvaccinated people who get covid recover without hospitalization or medical treatment?

Funny, I can't seem to find that number anywhere.

It funny alright if you believe logic is humorous. Did you think someone is nefariously concealing that information?   

[Primemuscle]

For sure. I'm only half serious here.

What really sucks is the before COVID all of us got along. Not anymore. 

I remember those days.....oh wait, I am so old that my memory is shot.....so I just make stuff up and act like it really happened. 

[OAK]

I remember those days.....oh wait, I am so old that my memory is shot.....so I just make stuff up and act like it really happened. 

Same thing here! 

[WeightPSHR]

It funny alright if you believe logic is humorous. Did you think someone is nefariously concealing that information?

Why yes, I do believe that information is not mentioned in MSM.
Much in the same way ivermectin is called a horse dewormer when in reality it's been used on humans for decades and won a Noble Peace prize. Let me know if you need any other examples.

Are you inferring MSM, Pharma and Biden are always upfront with us?